In Rockledge, Florida, at 4:30 p.m. on Saturday, the 25th of November, 2017, two armed citizens stopped a mass murder in progress. Police Chief Joseph P. LaSata of the Rockledge Police Department credited the intervention of the armed citizens for stopping the murderer.
The murder and gunfight started in Schlenker’s parking lot. The suspect opened fire on a 25 year old employee, paralyzing him. He shot and killed 50-year-old Roger Lee Smith, who had been employed at the shop for numerous years, as Smith came out the door to the parking lot. Then two armed employees, who had concealed carry permits, intervened. From floridatoday.com:
“The manager, who was a concealed weapons permit holder, came out and engaged in gunfire in the parking lot,” La Sata said. “The manager fled back inside the building, being chased by the gunman. Another Schlenker employee, who also had concealed weapons permit, engaged in gunfire with the suspect.”
Rockledge Chief Joseph Lasata (from the transcript of this video from wesh.com):
Mr. Baily had multiple magazines on his person. He was intent on doing harm. The employees stepped up and prevented customers, employees, and other vendors who were in the business at the time from sustaining further injuries. They did a good job.
The murder suspect, Robert Lorenzo Bailey, Jr, 28, of Cocoa, is in critical condition at the Holmes Regional Medical Center in Melborne. None of his history has been released.The suspect has not been connected to Schlenker Automotive.
This is the second time in three weeks armed citizens have intervened in a mass murder, preventing further murders from taking place. The first was Stephen Willeford, an NRA instuctor who grabbed his AR-15 and engaged the mass murderer at the First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, Texas on November 5, 2017.
We do not know the names of the two armed citizens who stopped the casualty count at two in Rockledge, Florida on 25 November. We know they had concealed carry permits, and that citizens who carry guns legally are extremely law abiding.
When armed citizens intervene, lives are saved. Those who want a disarmed population use the effectiveness of interventions to claim they do not occur. As only one victim was killed before the murderer was stopped, some will say it was not a mass murder, therefore no one can say a mass murder was stopped by an armed citizen.
Here is a list, with links to more than two dozen cases where armed citizens stopped mass killing: Mass Killings Stopped by Armed Citizens, Updated
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About Dean Weingarten:
Dean Weingarten has been a peace officer, a military officer, was on the University of Wisconsin Pistol Team for four years, and was first certified to teach firearms safety in 1973. He taught the Arizona concealed carry course for fifteen years until the goal of constitutional carry was attained. He has degrees in meteorology and mining engineering, and recently retired from the Department of Defense after a 30 year career in Army Research, Development, Testing, and Evaluation.
So with Remington having issues with the super modern standard 870 quality control, what’s the likelihood of adding a new feeding mechanism, magazine lockup, still cheap, being very reliable? I’d rather buy a Maverick 88.
Remington makes some good defensive ammo, but I don’t buy it, since there are other options, and this entire enterprise should die, just pull the plug already.
Impossible.
Fake News.
We all know that normal people are not capable of self defense with guns.
There must be a mistake.
Just wait for the cops, they are trained professionals.
Civilians will just make it worse.
Oh, and you’ll shoot your eye out.
Why do firearms manufacturers never offer these innovative designs in 20 gauge?!?!?!?
Pro-tip: 20 gauge slugs are every bit as effective as 12 gauge slugs for stopping human attackers — and without the horrendous recoil and blast!
Can’t watch SNL. I have not been able to watch that sh– for years and years. I made it to 0:36.
Sorry?
A few years ago I bought my wife a Crim son Trace laser and ever since we’ve been joking ‘RED DOT MEANS NO!’
Hey Mossberg, rip that idea off, for the 930. For the kids.
I predict that the Garden State will instantly be safer upon the passage of this vital legislation. And remember folks, “it’s for the children!”
Nice. Let me know when they make a drum magazine for one. |3
dmt hones. once you have an edge…
1. There are those in the House that will use the National Reciprocity law to piggy back some bad gun control laws.
2. There should be some regularizing of the rules of who can carry and who cannot effective either by Federal law or by with holding funds as is commonly done for vehicle licenses. Reciprocity only really works if all the states have a basic set of rules and regs on concealed carry. Of course the gun grabbers will screw things up and delay.
3. What should be added is the tracking of usage of firearms and statistics kept just like they have the reporting requirements for vehicle accidents and violations
It may not be such a good thing to have reciprocity. Opens up a whole can of worms that let’s the gun grabbers and Rights violators to have at the 2nd Amendment through the back door.
Driving is a privilege whereas bearing arms is a right. You don’t have to have a nationally recognized license to use your 1st Amendment rights in any state. Neither should you have to have a license to exercise your 2nd Amendment rights.
The biggest problem with sexual harassment and assault is that it is most often a case of “He Said, She Said”, because predators make sure there are no witnesses around when they make their move. If we examine the preponderance of sexual harassment and assault claims recently brought against celebrities and politicians, there is almost no physical evidence to back up those claims, other than self-incrimination by folks willing to own up to it, and by Trump on the Access Hollywood tape.
Don’t get me wrong. I believe the claims (at least the vast majority), because the stories are all too similar, there are way too many of them, and there’s no incentive in publicly advertising victim-hood.
But I’m wondering: What happens when he pulls out his tallywhacker, and she pulls out a pistol? Is that OK?
I’m thinking, yes, sometimes that is OK. If the door is locked or the way is blocked, and it’s clear that the guy means business and won’t take Nyet for an answer, then ladies, it’s time for you to show him your little pistol too.
The problem with a lot of these hollywood sexual assault cases is they aren’t actually assaults, many are cases of sexual coercion. Having a slimy scumbag tell you to suck his wang if you want a certain movie part is disgusting, but its also not appropriate situation to pull out your Glock and put 12 new orifices in him.
You gotta want one of those clapped-out .45s really bad to go through all that horseshit!
We taxpayers ( or our parents and grandparents) paid for those things through their tax dollars. Why shouldn’t anyone with a valid carry permit just be able to get a shot at one without jumping through all those hoops? In the end, all the FFLs will buy them and sell them for 10 times more than their value.
No kids but had I had some, they would have been taught the same way I was, starting at about 5 years old. My dad and granddad to me out in the country and we shot. Mostly 22 rifles but 22 pistols as well. (I remember granddad’s old High Standard Dura-Matic – wish I had it now) The first one I could call mine was a single shot 22 rifle at age 7. Next was a 20 ga. Browning A5 at 9 and a 22 Browning Challenger pistol at 15. Still have all of them.