“There are regional differences here and we should respect those, and guns mean something different for somebody who grew up on a farm in a rural community than somebody who grew up in an inner city. But what we know is the majority of responsible gun owners recognize we cannot have a situation in which 20 more of our children, or 100 more of our children, or 1,000 more of our children are shot and killed in a senseless fashion, and that there are some common-sense steps that we can take and build a consensus around. And we cannot shy away from taking those steps.” – Barack Obama urging Congressional Democrats to enact an assault weapons ban Thursday [via latimes.com]
You bet, China dsupports a gun ban and confiscation of our firearms. They dont want resistance when they come to invade us for not paying back all the money we borrowed from them.
But what we know is the majority of responsible gun owners recognize we cannot have a situation in which 20 more of our children, or 100 more of our children, or 1,000 more of our children are shot and killed in a senseless fashion,
So, there is a minority that wants dead children?
God fights on the side with the best artillery. Napoleon Bonaparte
Regional differences, indeed… such as the difference between where I live versus Chicago or Washington DC? Places that have strict gun laws, but I’m more likely to be shot there than my home city?
No thanks… I’ll take my life here in Washington state over Washington DC, Mr. President.
Too bad California and New York Democrats don’t realize that being socially liberal doesn’t also equal being an idiot about the truth about guns…
He never acknowledges that firearms ownership is a right.
The Department of Homeland Security is set to purchase a further 21.6 million rounds of ammunition to add to the 1.6 billion bullets it has already obtained over the course of the last 10 months alone, figures which have stoked concerns that the federal agency is preparing for civil unrest.
http://www.infowars.com/dhs-purchases-21-6-million-more-rounds-of-ammunition/
The only difference is between those who support the US Constitution and those who do not.
If that isn’t biased reporting, I don’t know what is. “Like something out of the wild west”? Where do these people get their silly notions?
And the way the whole thing was presented just smacks of anti-gun bias: The poor little town of Oak Harbor “threatened” by the big, bad SAF. No, how about the SAF looking out for the constitutional rights of people who want to be able to defend themselves?
Give me an effin’ break.
Why pay taxes in that state, taxation w/o representation is happening. Those are not real representatives of we the people! People just like the Founding Fathers warned us of, those that would disarm us and take away our rights. Beat this, CA! You let these weasels into office, now get those recalls and impeachments started. Fix it quickly.
CA, clean up this mess now. The next riots won’t be far away and do you really want to live through that unarmed?
Traitor-in Chief; does not believe in the very oath of office.Empty words..judge a man by his past acheivements and what does he bring to the table? nada! Former Chi-town community organizer, look at the free housing projects he supposedly headed up. All are destroyed from within and uninhabitable now.
But… he has the gift as an speaker, according to some. So he became a Senator from the Illinois voters which the DNC promoted to be a candidate for POTUS. Ignorant people fell under his spell and gave him carte blanche this second term. Destined to be remembered as the Hitler of our time
California residents:
WA, OR and ID welcomes you! Bring your intelligence, guns and hard work to states that don’t have a D+ credit rating from Moody’s.
This is great.
I love the comment about “assault weapons” in the streets. My weapons of war are in my gun cabinet!
Failure to adhere to the Constitution is due cause for impeachment, in case you forgot Barry. Happened to much better men than you already. You are the first Commander-in Chief that I cannot respect due to your failure to live by the oath you took. Barry Hussein, please step aside now for the good of this nation.
The Patriots
Wow, she’s PISSED! (And rightfully so) I’m glad she posted the video.
I thought he was going to bare Anderson Coopers love child!
Do we have confirmation that the above sections are indeed in the original text? The website your link above doesn’t look terribly reliable, and the only actual source they have is another sketchy looking site. All of the mainstream sources it links say nothing about this.
Not calling y’all out or anything, just saying the interwebs can be deceptive sometimes.
Edit: A quick google search nets links from TMZ and the New York Post; anything else out there?
Last edit: TMZ indicates some of the messages, like the one to Ellen, were posted on boards, and not necessarily in the manifesto. FWIW.
http://www.tmz.com/2013/02/07/lapd-cop-killer-christopher-dorner-tim-tebow-charlie-sheen-larry-david/
The TV news report from Fox News Los Angeles describes his manifesto as “20 pages” long. Copy and paste the uncensored version into MS Word and it’s 21 pages. Try the redacted version. It’s about 11 pages. Hmmm….
What Obama and John Roberts don’t seem to understand is that a majority can’t take away our rights.
California is already in dire straights. The state is broke. They will no doubt be asking for US taxpayers to bail them out again and this is where the rest of the country has to put their foot down. I for one will no longer buy any more California wine, fruit or vegetables, and will not visit the state, for starters. The quicker the state goes completely broke the better, not only for the state, but for the rest of the country. Nothing brings about political change quicker than lack of money.
So does anyone still think LEO are the only people to be entrusted with “weapons of war”?
This should be a wake up call about the militarization of our police forces. One unhinged cop can do a lot of damage, imagine 10 cops who decided they were going to raise hell.
Just like how last year the MSM swept under the rug the guy who went into a pro-life family center with a handgun and a backpack full of chichen sandwiches?
Many good points have been made here. heres my take on it.
Should we stick with the 9mm cal? Answer: NO, Reason: stopping power.
But it doesnt conform to natos specs, so what! Last time I checked the usa
still manufactured its own ammo. So if were going to change the caliber, which
way do we go. Personally I think there are only 2 choices. Either bigger or
faster. Well the .45 is definitely bigger and it gets the job done. The other
choice I see is the .357sig which is your basic 9mm dia bullet on steroids.
Its stopping power is as good if not better than the .45 cal. I would choose
the .357sig in a sig p226 if i could have my personal prefrence.
Of course there are many pistols out there that would work as well. I know
this for a fact because my gunsafe is packed with them. You can pro and con
them to death all day long. Any well made pistol will work as long as
the people using them are trained to do so. If not than it dosent matter what
you give them.
Nice, fair and unbiased review Nick. Good call on not saying much about FN and congrats on making the team.
Begun the polymer flame war has.
Home Defense: XD(m) 4.5 or M&P9
CC: XD(m) 3.8 Compact
Competition: M&P9
It sounds like he was referring to the 357Sig… or the more aptly named “9mm MAGNUM” hehe
It’s a great round; a pain to reload.
9mm, .40 Smith, and .45 ACP are all fine. Missing your target is not.
1. this is a load of crap
2. Regardless, if the cops are outgunned by criminals, well then LAW-ABIDING, NON-CRIMINALS shouldn’t be outgunned by criminals either!! Why doesn’t anyone want to understand this!!
I’m totally shooting from the hip here, but in some states I think you can own but not possess a handgun if you are under 21. An example would be if your father possesses your handgun that you paid for to use for competition or maybe hunting.
He thinks he’s going to divide us, he’s wrong. Sorry King Owe’Malley, ain’t gonna work. We showed you that on Wednesday, didn’t we.
The Free State shall remain free, and our gun owners will be undivided.
See thread regarding this letter here http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=105421
And if you are from Maryland, a surrounding state or heck anyone please don’t hesitate to sign up to MDshooters.com We’re on the front lines here!
Perhaps part of the reason the coverage of what’s in this manifesto is that he spends a good chunk of it doing rambling shout-outs to celebrities and expressing his love for politicians, journalists, and entertainers alike (I don’t really see a whole lot of difference between them now-a-days). This rant of his supports my theory that this country is being coming more and more entranced with a celebrity fantasy.
And I feel the same way when people on the right hold up the occasional celeb that backs their viewpoints.
“It’s hard to have a dialogue with someone who’s holding a gun,”
There is no need for dialogue once the take the gun away from you.
So tired of politics these days.
So did anyone see a flare gun that shoots .410? I almost want one.
Cheyenne, WY is a mere 90 minute drive from Denver. Assuming the Feds don’t step in with a magazine ban of their own, all criminals have to do is take a short drive to get whatever they feel they need, no way Wyoming takes part in this madness. Way to go idiots, your big law is easily bypassed with a morning road trip. A real life saver!
Better yet, there are a couple fireworks stands just across the border in WY to sell to Coloradans who cant purchase said novelties in their own state. How about a fireworks AND high capacity magazine stand?
15+ hours from whenthe LA times article was posted and not a single comment there. Is this how people respond when something becomes “normal”?
I can can’t even OC across my front yard with a swat team and 3 news stations arriving.