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“A 5th grade student, who admitted he brought a loaded gun with him on a school bus for protection after getting threatened by two students the day before, was taken into custody Friday morning,” “Investigators said the boy told them he had taken his grandfather’s gun [above] for protection after being threatened by another 5th grader and a 4th grader on the ride home Thursday.” Despite MikeB’s sarcastic dismissal of the moniker, you are TTAG’s Armed Intelligentsia. So . . . project yourself back in time. Can you imagine any set of circumstances wherein you’d pack heat? If not, are you smarter than this fifth grader? And if so, are there some people too intellectually challenged to own guns?

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  1. Believe it or not, I could imagine such a set of circumstances. But, they’d have to be extremely extreme. I think you guys who carry guns for the “just in case” fantasy in your mind are nuts.

    • “Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology, U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.”

      Guess we are in good company then..

      Also, Google “the Armed Citizen” and read some of the stories from people who are alive today because they did carry “just in case”.

  2. Fantasy? Perhaps all the victims of violent crime FANTASIZED that it happened. To think you are immune is the only fantasy.

  3. can you imagine any set of circumstances wherein you’d pack heat?

    No, although in high school I did frequently bring my homemade mini-mace (8″ by 1″ steel all thread with bolts on one end 🙂 )

  4. I was constantly picked on in grade school There were always a large selection of my dad’s guns (trigger locks? huh?) in our home while I was growing up.

    I would never have even touched one of those guns, much less made the jump to use one on some bully kid at school.

  5. “Can you imagine any set of circumstances wherein you’d pack heat?”

    In school? In fifth grade? Not a chance. When I was in fifth grade (I think it was during the Hayes Administration), we settled our differences with a Three O’Clock Dustup. Ten minutes after, we’d already forgotten why we fought in the first place. Much later on, when the world took a different and very serious turn, yeah, I was strapped, but not in school.

  6. Much like Ralph’s situation (Though many decades later) kids bullied me until I snapped. Today the school would have me arrested for breaking two noses, an arm, and a knee and several fingers among my three tormentors. Back then school teachers and principals had brains. The principal ascertained that I was attacked by three people and was therefore defending myself and then suspended the three of them effective immediately. Oddly no one ever attacked or tried to bully me after that.
    Today I would have been expelled for defending myself. But I would never have used one of my fathers guns to handle the situation!

  7. I was a boarder in high school and we made all sorts of things in the dorms. Crossbows, halberds (out of broken sign poles), shivs, and Hi-Power Nerf guns. Mattresses and dorm room walls were our victims. They weren’t for self defense, we only fought boredom.


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