Yeah, you know it’s coming. The “A” word. “Police say a student drove to his Franklin County school with an arsenal of weapons, but he is not facing any criminal charges,” wcax.com reports. “The 17-year-old had guns, knives and ammunition in his car, but police say they have no proof that he had any intentions to cause harm. The weapons were discovered when the Northwest Technical Center student brought his car in to be worked on by other students there. Police say a teacher checking the glove compartment found a loaded .45-caliber, semi-automatic pistol and alerted police. After getting a search warrant, police also found two shotguns, a rifle, two stun guns, a machete, two knives and an assortment of ammunition.” Sounds like a grand day out to me. But not to St. Albans Police Chief Gary Taylor [above] . . .
“I can tell you that in this day and age, with the shootings that have occurred across the country, I just don’t see any place for firearms, particularly that number of weapons, in one vehicle. That doesn’t seem to me to be somebody planning on going hunting,” St. Albans Police Chief Gary Taylor said.
Police say the weapons are from the juvenile’s home. It’s still unclear why they were in the student’s car.
Though no laws were violated, possessing weapons on school property is a violation of district policy. School officials are in the process of taking action against the student for the violation.
So no criminal record, just a permanent stain on the student’s academic record, which will make it more difficult for the lad to go to finishing school. Bummer.
“I just don’t see any place for firearms, particularly that number of weapons, in one vehicle.”
Does that include police vehicles Chief Taylor? This guy would have a heart attack if he searched my truck on a day I was going to the range.
Exactly what I was thinking. And on those days, there’s usually also a teenager in the passenger seat, mere inches away from all those guns. OMG noooooo….!
Funny, when I take my car to a mechanic he never looks in the glove compartment. Wonder why the teacher thought he ought to.
And the kid should just say he had all that stuff in case of a zombie apocalypse.
looking for the owner’s manual, probably.
Never met a mechanic worth his salt that had to refer to an owner’s manual.
It was a high school auto shop class. Not exactly a haven of master mechanics.
Depending on the work being done, maybe getting to a wiring harness or ventilation system behind the box.
Sounds like the situation was handled reasonably well. Stupid kid for leaving everything laying around knowing other people were going to be crawling all over his car.
On the upside, at least it didn’t trigger pants sh*tting hysteria and send the whole school into lockdown.
Otherwise, what was in the car sounds like pretty typical standard issue rural household equipment. It’s a little odd that he’d leave it in a car, though.
Dumb question, how was this not a violation of GFSZA?
Dumb kid for having all that stuff in the car.
Vermont is a free state. Hard to believe it borders NY.
If this cop is freaking about this, he would have a coronary if he ever stopped me on the way to a 3-gun match…………….or heaven forbid if it would have been back in the day heading to the Second Chance or the SOF shoots!
Is it just me or are most cops pvssies these days? They certainly seem to to have a problem holding their water when it involves firearms.
I was just thinking that. I took a bud to the range the other day and had 2 ARs, an M1A, an AK, 2 .45s a 9MM and a ruger 10/22 Top that all off with probably 2000 rounds of ammo combined and us both being bearded, ball cap wearing, Come and Take it Sticker having, 4×4 truck drivers and this guy would have a heart attack right there on the side of the road!!
I hate it when people say ‘semiautomatic pistol’ in every article.
Who takes their car to be “worked on” when it is full of weapons, particularly firearms? Sounds like a good way to find them missing, school or not.
Most likely explanation is the kid was playing tough guy gangsta with his friends using dad’s guns.
Indeed. Emerson (my 8 month old) and I are at the carwash. There aren’t any guns or uniforms in my car. I did leave a pair of handcuffs, but since I have a key on my chain, I think I’ll be ok. As to the article, those are some seriously unsecured firearms. Not good.
At Camp Pendelton in 1976, we were taught to place the butt stock under our arm (tucked up in armpit) rather than to our shoulder. Our targets were about 250 yards away.
Oops. meant 1967 not 1976. Also, see video above at about 2:08.
As an engineer I love the technology involved. I can see the SWAT/Police Sniper folks using them to justify the kill etc.However, I myself prefer simplicity. Cross eye dominance is my problem. I would just love to have a simple/proven/convenient scope/mount that would allow me to shoot a rifle right handed but left eye dominant. In the past, after a trip to an ophthalmologist when I was younger I switched to shooting rifles left handed. Accuracy improved but it still feels clumsy. I shoot hand guns right handed with no problem. Since I’ve been out of the sport for awhile the new red dot sights may provide a solution but would love to be able to shoot a hunting rifle with a scope right handed.
That picture makes AR builds look daunting, had I never done it before I’d get the idea that it is complex. Fortunately building an AR is a ridiculously easy task even for a beginner.
What I use(d): an upper jig to hold it in place, AR armorer tool for castle and barrel nuts, punch set, mallet, vice grips… and a flat head screw driver. With the exception of the jig and the armorer tool I already owned everything else. Probably would have been a good idea to get head-space gauges, but I honestly never came across any info for AR building that mentioned them. In any case I have worked on more than enough ARs between myself and my buddies that it seems to be a non-issue.
Don’t get me wrong, if I was in the business of building ARs or working on them day in and day out I’d spend the scratch for a nice setup like that. But for someone looking to build one or two ARs? Not worth it. A little elbow grease and mostly common tools and you should be fine.
I got stopped at 3AM in Kennesaw Georgia with a mix of 33 pistols and rifles along with about 3,000 rounds of ammo. The officer asked if I had any weapons, guns, knives, nuclear weapons… I said “yeah, a bunch!” He took two steps back with his hand on his sidearms and said “well, you know… that is perfectly leagal…” I explained that my friend and I had spent the entire day at the range and we went out for dinner after. Another officer came up while the first was running my license and asked me what all the gun stuff was about. I talked with him a bit and eventually diagnosed a problem he had been having with one of his weapons, told him where to go to get it fixed, who to ask for and a best guess as to the price of the fix.
I still got the ticket though.
he would gone to jail here in Georgia. not even 2 inch pocket knives or BB guns are allowed on school property.
If no laws were violated; what exactly was the probable cause for the search warrant to search the rest of the vehicle?
Firearms on school property, perhaps.
IMO, this circumstance is probably because said student lives in a household run by anti-gun parents,and thus can only store his weapons in the car.When I lived with an anti gun stepdad,he said “No Guns Under His Roof”.
Mkay ……Into the trunk my Gas Blowback Airsoft guns went…..till he found them, but thats another story.
I hope he didn’t buy that book, don’t want that POS to make a dime off that garbage.
Like Abbie Hoffman said: “Steal this book!”
Also, if you focus your money and attention to using all high quality parts, assembling them together will be quite easy, even with few specialized tools. Skimp with cheap “milspec” parts and you will be frustrated.
34in-lbs is less than 3ft-lbs. If you cant figure out if he meant in-lbs or lbs-ft, you shouldnt be working on it.
When will people learn that Background Checks DO NOT CHECK FOR INTENT. Meaning, If I had decided I had had it with political shit-heads, paying lip service to my 2nd A Rights, and decided to do something about it, I could go down to the LGS and purchase a shinny new opinion demonstration device, and there is no background check that would stop me! Why? because I have NO Criminal History! I could have all the murderous malice you could cram into a human being, and I would still be allowed to purchase said device and render my opinion till it went click! So shut the hell up about the damn background checks, already.
they should of arrested her husband for committing a felony according to the SAFE act and show her that their new gun laws make so much sense
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/10/robert-farago/mark-kelly-commits-felony-new-york-gun-show/
If the feds get a hold of it, this is a GFSZ violation.
This really don’t suprise me tons of people leave guns in their car all the time and have it worked on. Don’t believe me? Ask anybody that works out in the oil change bay at Walmart loaded weapons found nearly everyday under seats between seats on seats in door pockets. If I had been a less honest employee I couldve put together a collection to make the NRA blush.
I think the best thing that Space Captain Mark and his meat puppet Gabby could do to serve responsible gun owners is to go back to Arizona and STFU. They don’t have OCD, they have Cephalorectal Occlusion Disorder. Sorry, but you have devastated anything you have in common with ethical humans more thoroughly than the Bikini Atoll in the 50s.
since Giffords now has the cognitive ability of an 8 yr old, does that make “Captain” Mark Kelly a pedophile? Just saying . . . .
I feel like a cheat for just building lowers – and hiring a gunsmith to do almost all of the fitting. I did drill a few holes and buy the parts. Those lowers work like gangbusters.
Like a whole lot of hobbies, I’d like to build also. Unfortunately, I don’t have the time and resources. A good reloading kit will be the next DIY project – after housework and such, of course.
Still, cool info. I respect good ‘smithing.
Or…
Robert finally melts down over the months-long prohibition of Israeli supermodel links on TTAG.
Hmmm. Methinks Mr Dietz is spinning rather haplessly here.
Throwing an intern under the bus over a boo-boo on the Evolve website is one thing-
a strategic decision to align a long-established and well-regarded gun maker with a new faux gun-group sprouted by PR firm weenies proud of their creds with MSNBC and Pierced Organ,
that fer-crying-out-loud, speaks to the customer with a tagline like
“don’t be a dumbass” is entirely another.
I think we ought to give the owner, Mr Coonan, a chance to weigh in here.
He seems to be a straight-shooter in the “Ask Dan” video series. I wonder if the chubby fellow who introduces himself as “Dave” is same Chief Marketer, Dave Dietz.
http://coonaninc.com/blog/2012/08/30/ask-dan-the-answers-vol-v/
At the very end, in responce to a viewer question, “have you ever made any mistakes?” – Dan responds to Dave, “I think coming here with you…”
(referring to him appearing on the videos, dated 4/28/12)
Might be prophetic…
My guess is Mr Dietz is getting some straight talk right about now…
I hear CTD, Dicks, and MAIG are hiring…interns….
Me gusta if it doesn’t weigh a ton.
Captain sweatpants undertakes “operation smegma”
Really fellas, are you sure this doesn’t look weird? Because, y’know, it feels kinda funny. Why are you laughing?
I am sorry that so many of you are Haverig trouble with your saga12 I have a 2009 legion USA still stock and it fires everything I put in it without a single problem I would trust my life with it. PS. All this talk about the 1911 being crape has not been my experience I own four and the only one that has ever given me any trouble is my para p14-45 which has a feeding issue but is the most accurate. 45 I have ever shot.
Yep. Thats my take too and Ms Bonds e133t marketing speak sounds like the same kind of mumbo jumbo you get from any progressive nonprofit with obligatory NPR like plummy tone of faux compassion that says ” dont worry we know whats best for you”.
Having a conversation, discussion, and/or dialog about rights is infringement. There is NO “middle ground” within “rights”. You either have them or they are gone.
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