We haven’t really been covering it in depth, but Barack Obama announced a new candidate for Surgeon General a while back and every day it seems we learn something new about him. Dr. Vivek H. Murthy seems like a suitable candidate, until you realize that the good doctor believes that extremely strict gun control is a matter of public health and was planning to use his position to advocate for that. The revelations sparked outrage from gun rights groups, and word comes today from the New York Times that the outcry of gun rights advocates seems to have been loud enough to pull the plug on the nomination.
From the New York Times . . .
Facing a possible defeat in the Senate, the White House is considering delaying a vote on President Obama’s choice for surgeon general or withdrawing the nomination altogether, an acknowledgment of its fraying relationship with Senate Democrats.
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Senate aides said Friday that as many as 10 Democrats are believed to be considering a vote against Dr. Murthy, who has voiced support for various gun control measures like an assault weapons ban, mandatory safety training and ammunition sales limits.
The overall tone of the NYT piece is more of the same “evil NRA” propaganda that tries to paint the efforts of an organization with more than five million members as “radical” and “out of touch.” This from the same newspaper that lauds the “popular” efforts of Moms Demand Action and their couple thousand “likes” on Facebook. So it makes sense that the Times places the blame for the failure of this nomination squarely on the NRA’s shoulders, and no doubt the NRA is happy to oblige.
The real story here is one of the ascendance of gun rights advocates. Instead of playing a defensive game, gun rights people are finally being pro-active and going after any action in Washington that has even a hint of an anti-gun aroma. Four years ago we would have been content to sit back and complain about these machinations to our buddies, but now we’re taking a more active role and actually influencing politics.
With the midterm election coming up, I’m getting my popcorn ready. The media narrative may be that this coming election is a referendum on Obamacare, but my money is on gun rights being more important. We’ve seen what happens when we let “reasonable” people be elected and then turn around and try to infringe on our constitutional rights, and I’m looking forward to the crop of politicians that are about to be voted in. It’s gunna be a fun election cycle.
In the meantime, the Surgeon General nomination is on the ropes — but not quite down for the count. There’s still a possibility that Obama’s minions can save the day and make the needed votes appear. But if things are so bad that even the Gray Lady is starting to point fingers, we might just see victory after all.
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Good Lord I hope so. 🙂
What fraction of all CT “assault weapon” owners are those that mailed in their applications after the dealine?
“Suitable candidate,” my posterior! The guy is 8 years out of medical school. His principal activity since then has been that of a political activist, having founded “Doctors for Obama,” which is now “Doctors for America.” Medicine is a sideline.
From the WH perspective, he’s the perfect candidate. Maybe he’ll nominate Kal Penn next.
How does one get their popcorn “ready”? 😉 A pep talk?
The lesson in this: they NEVER quit, and we can’t either.
Since this nominee is an immigrant, I suggest an amendment to the Constitution – any non-native born American who advocates a violation of any rights enshrined in the Bill of Rights shall be immediately deported.
The NRA is evil because Executive Director Cox announced the vote would be scored. There are 6 very vulnerable Dems in Red States. Add in the republicans and even under Barry’s math, you don’t get 51 votes. Same thing happened with Barry’s candidate for Civil Rights chief in the DOJ. Note there Harry “Palms” Reid even voted no so he has the ability to bring up the nomination again (after the 2014 elections when the Red State Dems are cleaning out their desks). NEVER GIVE UP THE SHIP!!!
Besides, this “doctor” is so unqualified . . . . . he has never run a hospital let alone a department in a hospital. Nope . . . .
Good guys should wear attire with large bull’s eye targets front and rear, center mass.
Based on what I’ve seen of LEOs at my range, such targets are never struck by police gunfire and should render the wearers completely safe.
“Police Officers spend countless hours training for these scenarios. We train to charge in, engage, and stop the threat.”
“{Dispatch} will advise the officers of what you said. They will still come in hot. Chances are you will be shot without a moment’s hesitation.”
So much for all those countless hours of training that the officers come in and shoot without a moment’s hesitation. Seems like people are in more danger from responding officers than from the spree killer. In that case, probably is better just to hightail it out of there, don’t engage the shooter, and let him have his way until the flatfoots show up.
Mr Leghorn,
Obvious you write about guns and not medicine. You said that Dr. Murthy seems like a suitable candidate until….
#1. The good Dr Murthy graduated med school in 2008 and hasn’t really practiced medicine since. He isn’t double boarded in anything. Don’t know if he is even boarded in any one speciality. He held a teaching position at Harvard, but didn’t really teach anything, mainly because he is a brand new doctor. He will be leading Indian health, prison health, FDA, NIH etc… The only thing he has really been active in is politics. Which is fine, but be a politician then and run for office ( many doctors abandon medicine and do that). He is no more qualified to be the Surgeon General than a new grad lawyer who has only clerked for a Senator becoming a Supreme Court Judge.
#2. He wasn’t born American, which isn’t a requirement. But when you claim another country as your home. When you make annual trips there to help underprivileged children. When you donate millions of your own money and money you raise to that country….that doesn’t seem very American to me. He could set up health clinics in inner city’s, or in rural farm country where there is a need for health care. He chooses another country to serve.
Guns are not the issue. Dr Murthy is NOT qualified for the position of Surgeon General of the United States. Dr. Murthy doesn’t consider himself American, so why would any Senator vote for a guy to be the senior physian in the United States.
Then again the nomination is coming from a President many question his citizenship, and the same President that put someone in a position of enormous responsibility who’s main source of experience for the job was the fact that she happened to be married to a former President.
We are talking about the a Surgeon General, right? This highlights the absurd lengths to which Wayne L. Pierre and Chris Cox will go to further entrench their power. The Surgeon General is not a Second Amendment issue. This is fabricated to further bring the President to heel.
IT BEGINS
lol… you watch too many movies.
The NRA announced they were scoring it. This must be proof the American people are ready to support gun control at the polls. Or, not. Hey, where is Bloomie and his
millionminions?Sigh…I am becoming more distrustful of my government by the day.
the ATF gives no fuchs. they are simply making sure they get their hands on the customer list before it’s hidden or deleted. doesn’t matter what the consequences are. selling a chunk of metal is not illegal. but they need to account for every potential firearm to ensure their hit list is complete.
So, the Law doesn’t matter anymore, the govt. just does what they want, when they want, the way they want to fit their agenda. I guess we are no longer free. In truth I don’t think we have been for a long time. We are as free as long as we do what the govt. says. “Obey the laws and whatever else we decide is right……or else!”
Wheelgun
#rougeagency
So much for that restraining order. But it is okay if the ATF breaks the law. One rule for them another rule for us.
All of you gun owners who want to keep your ARs and 30 capacity mags, without being felons, come on down to Florida. It’s warmer, too!
Ares Armor founder/CEO did a good interview with Nutnfancy posted less than 24 hours ago, before the raid. The situation has now changed, but that interview shows what it was just before the raid.
I don’t see it as “saber rattling” either. This site has since it started been pretty good at keeping it “real”. The things WE are going to see happen in CT, NY, NJ and other anti states will really start to define US as a people. If WE don’t get the anti politicians and oath breakers out WE the PEOPLE will loose our rights and then the first amendment, the fourth …….. Until WE have none.
This is my rifle this is my gun this is for fighting this is for f……….
Millennial here (1982). Full support of constitution and oppose gun control.
For my part, I still refuse to fear what might come to pass in CT. Whatever plays out there is really outside my personal control, so getting worked up is a nonproductive waste of energy. I’m paying attention, but focusing my energy in other areas.
One thing that is within my control is informing friends, family and anyone interested about the realities of firearms, how they work, what the laws really are, what it’s like to be a gun owner, etc. And I take people shooting.
I live in AZ, but have a lot of left-leaning friends in left-leaning places. In fact, I’m in NJ tonight, and I had lunch with a friend from XBox Live this afternoon. I showed him pictures of my toys, pointing out how much NJ laws suck and how things like magazine limits have no practical effect on public safety. We ended up making plans for him to come visit and go shooting.
Yes, there’s a real possibility this will be too little, too late. But at least it’s something I can do to help 2A rights that’s totally within my control. Even if all I’m doing is planting seeds of doubt against the Official Version, who knows what those seeds might bear later?
From my understanding of the events in CT, it seems clear that those in power did indeed want some people to NOT be able to comply. Proposals for extending the registration period were rejected. If the goal was simply to have firearms registered, why not extend the registration period? Why not allow registration all day, every day, for the rest of time?
Nope. Seems that the powers that be in CT wanted exactly what they’ve got. If a conflict does arise there, it won’t be the fault of hapless gun owners who got caught in law designed to criminalize them – it will be the fault of those who wrote and passed that law.
I shoot a little competition plus do a lot of messing around at the range with both Glocks (9mm) and 1911’s (.45 ACP). This gun looks like exactly what I want for competition and just shooting. I think that Springfield combined the continuing interest in the 1911 platform with the economical and availability of the 9. As soon as circumstances allow this will be my next new firearm. And I’ll bet that it will get more than a few looks and comments at matches and at the range. Price seems reasonable for what you get and if it’s like my Springfield 1911 it will shoot better than I do. Respectfully, Alex
Why not buy him a box of standard 115 grain or 124 grain 9mm FMJ and send him into the Bass Pro Shop range to get familiarized?
Better yet, invite his girlfriend next week and have them both get a little experience with the new Ruger.
Seriously… get those people to the range.
Morons moving in next to a long-standing racetrack and then complaining about the noise has been the downfall of many, many racetracks around the country, as well.
Damn. my old stomping grounds. I misspent a few years stumbling around Oceanside when I was in the Corps…I’ve probably been in that shop if it’s been there more than six years.
Regardless of what happens next the BATFE succeeded in shutting down Ares for all practical purposes because no one is going to give them a name and address – ever. No customers, no biz.
I’d love a government issued firearm. Perhaps this was a back door policy proposal?
Wow! Just Wow! That is one hell of DGU!
I wonder how much this has to do with them getting the senatorfeinstein.com domain.
The fact we can talk about “how much” vs “”remember when” is the real topic here.
Love me some MURICA!!!
I always hope it’s a Big Brotherless “how much”.
I had a chance to talk with Neel and Tim last evening at the CRP in Burlingame CA.
For those who are following along.
Tim Donnelly:
Would want shall issue, and possibly constitutional carry if we could get it.
Repeal the AWB.
Toss the gun registry.
10 day wait, 1 gun per month, gone.
Neel:
Take the quote above at face value. Essentially nothing will change.
The only thing he can say is he is a gun owner, like that should be good enough as a litmus test.
Glad you’re ok. I live in Austin and attend SXSW every year and there was something about this year that brought out an especially unpleasant ghetto thug element to the festival, primarily along 6th St. Others mentioned this to me as well without even prompting me for my opinion first, seems it’s a consensus. I carry a Spyderco folder almost all the time even when I don’t carry my firearm, especially at SXSW. I need to find a good OC spray that will fit in my pocket without being too obnoxious.
I fully agree with you, we should be able to carry in bars as long as we’re not drunking (that was not a typo) and acting responsibly. Maybe after we get open carry after this upcoming legislative session we’ll move onto changing the law so we can carry in bars.
I wish you guys suggesting that you will fight off a swat team from the comfort of your home would get some training,read a book about tactics or something! You are very wrong if you think you can wait for the door to be kicked in.You are dead wrong. Get together with your patriot friends,neighbors, family someone in your group will have tactical experience or training.Live to fight another day. If you don’t have the advantage don’t engage
America disapppeared beneath the waves. The life guards never swam out to save it. Its gone.
My old man was on the job for 34 years, at least once and possibly a few more times I was with him when he had to spring into action and pull his firearm. I thank God on a fairly regular basis he is alright after his career and continues to be alright, as only the children of police officers and similiar (Military/firemen & fire women etc.) can understand.
In your case, good sir, Good on ya, and glad you got out okay, but you should have shot ’em, been doing the rest of us a big favor, Wiccans ain’t never up to any good no how!
I have to confess that I’m going on a trip to Israel this summer and I bought a bullet-resistant panel for my tourist-y backpack. Since outsiders can’t have any practical defensive weaponry, I hope that the panel will offer some protection just-in-case.
Hopefully, it will not be tested!
Hell and I thought the wifes Buncos night was nothing but a bunch of hens….Way.. WAY to many comments on dudes physique..
Umm, to all those who think I’m disparaging someone for their eyebrows and a need to get in shape…the pic is me 🙂
I thought identifying the rifle and suppressor exactly would kind of give that away
And I DO need to get to the gym mo’ regular-like…I have been slacking lately!
If you socialize, and know you are going out and about , carry, don’t drink! Have a soda or juice.Drink at home. Small price you have to pay to stay dilligent.
If the governor needs more persuasion burn Connecticut to the ground. Make the news and turn peoples heads around, message becomes quite clear when you inflict mayhem upon the state. Send out a message to King Obama, if he want to make us a criminal for owning our AR-15,become a criminal
I think it’s a bit of both. Much, much moreso the former than the latter, though.
There’s nothing wrong with donating to charitable organizations to help people hamstrung by wars, either. That’s one of the many redeeming qualities of the U.S.: we donate more monies and supplies per-capita than anybody other populace on the planet — and by a very wide margin, no less.
I also don’t doubt the possibility of a Syria-type breakdown happening anywhere in the world, either. It’s just (a lot) less likely to happen in countries like the U.K. and the U.S., is all. History has shown us that it very well could, albeit either in small-scale (coughKatrinacough) or as the result of a World War. That is why it is our civic duty to be as prepared as we can, whether by having some emergency supplies on-hand, to the ability to defend ourselves against ALL enemies; foreign and domestic. It also wouldn’t hurt to build up different skill sets, whether it emergency trauma care (think CLS or EMT), or even welding and carpentry. You just never know when it might come in handy.
Wouldn’t it just suck if you have 3 dozen firearms and 100,000 rounds of ammunition, and you are at work or on a trip over 50 miles from your house and safe, when all hell breaks loose, and you can’t get home!
ThomasR, I know it’s happened, a friend of mine was with the 82nd after Katrina. I wasn’t around for the riots in LA and Chicago. NOLA was a war zone, there’s various accounts of PSDs getting in firefights with gang bangers in addition to the looting and everything else’s.
Gunr, maybe they think since it’s a white little girl more people will pay attention.
As for preps, yes and no. I don’t believe in the whole “bug out bag” simply because most people cram them full of crap. I do have a go bag and a get home bag. My he home bag is vastly different than mists however (think dope and beer)
I left LA in 2004 after residing there for 20 years. Best move I ever made. Moved out of Kalifornia, never looked back, and quality of life improved immensely.
A 10th amendment attack on the NFA is doomed to legal failure, as SCOTUS has already denied cert to Gary Marbut and the Montana Firearms Freedom Act.
A better tack, to me, would be to tke the testimony of Atty Gen Cummings and NRA president Fredericks as to the constitutionality of a ban on machineguns. Cummings explicitly stated that a ban would likely run afoul of the police powers of states, but that a tax on machineguns would pass constitutional muster. Frederick states that he supposed that the NFA could be used as regulatory under the guise of taxation.
Yeah, hope for his sake he cleaned up the exif data before sending that photo. Or that TTAG did it for him before posting.
I hope these Stand Strong pics are helping to stiffen spines in CT — we need to duke it out there, before it spreads to other states and becomes ‘normal’.
Thank you Choti Singh. And thank you Ed. Your articles are always appreciated.
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