In a 1995 fund raising letter, NRA Veep Wayne LaPierre called employees of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives “jack-booted thugs” who “wear Nazi bucket helmets and black storm trooper uniforms to attack law-abiding citizens.” And now . .
he wants the very same ATF to regulate bump fire stocks, to make them illegal or at the least, NFA items. What could possibly go wrong?
We’re talking about the federal agency whose actions in Waco, Texas led to the death of 76 people.
The agency that watched Mexican drug thugs illegally purchase firearms and walk them across the border, later linked to 69 killings — including the death of U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry — and 20 mass killings.
The agency that hired a brain-damaged man to promote an undercover storefront sting in Milwaukee. And then arrested him. One operation among many ATF “stings” that manufactures crime.
The agency that sold black market cigarettes and maintained secret bank accounts to fund operations they couldn’t get Congress to bankroll.
Need I go on?
In short, the ATF is a deeply corrupt organization that has a long, squalid history of antipathy towards Americans seeking to exercise their natural, civil and Constitutionally protected right to keep and bear arms. And a longstanding tradition of remaining unaccountable for their illegal, amoral and unconstitutional actions.
The NRA realized this back in the day. They probably realize it now. But in the aftermath of the Las Vegas massacre, the NRA’s leaders have decided its better to encourage the ATF to reverse its logically consistent ruling that approved bump fire stocks than it is to let a bump fire ban bill make it to the President’s desk. Or to be seen as “pro-mass murder.”
They may be right — if the ATF heads off Congress at the pass. But they may also be wrong. The move gives the ATF more legitimacy.
We’ve seen what the Bureau’s done with their power in the past. The NRA’s implicit endorsement can only make them stronger.
What happens when a pro-gun control Democrat wins the White House and directs the ATF to wield the ban hammer again? Will semi-autos (a.k.a., “weapons of war”) be next? And don’t forget: the ATF have their own little army. The next Prez could get all enforcement happy.
All the Devil wants is your soul. Has the NRA delivered?
Like Charles Whitman ,
Actually , the way they lit up that place , I think I could have had a better kill rate with my Mossberg MVP , topped with a high quality glass and 10 thirty round magazines .
Just sayin .
I agree that the ATF has a long and shady history, and would never for one moment think they have our best interests in mind. How sad, then, that they are the lesser of two evils today?
I thought this was a clever move by the NRA, and still do. A rules change by them can’t be worse than a law written by Feinstein and Pelosi. Especially since any new rules would be subject to clarification and interpretation by the ATF.
And really, if a terrible new law passed with widespread public support, society would think of the ATF as legitimate by association anyway.
Actually you’re wrong a rule made by a federal police agency is not how this country makes laws. This would give the ATF the ability to keep changing whatever laws they want to make it more restrictive all the way down to Banning aftermarket triggers because of these freaking bump fire stocks. The NRA are a bunch of morons and I’m just now realizing this. I tried to give Wayne LaPierre the benefit of the doubt for the last 27 years but I was expecting more from Pete Brpwnell. We definitely don’t want federal police agencies making up laws for the people that is absolutely not how this country runs and it is absolutely horrificator.
The function of the ATF needs to exist, but the ATF in it’s current form doesn’t. Fold it into the FBI already… Tax collection is a Treasury function anyways…
NRA has screwed us at every meaningful corner. Why should this be any different? Perhaps new leadership is in order to rectify such betrayal.
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It’s astounding the number of people who can’t see the long game the NRA is playing here. Bump stocks are simply pawns in the game of chess they are engaged in. Use them as leverage to get national reciprocity moving forward. Then, when a state assault weapons ban makes it top the supreme court (which it will once the court is stacked in our favor) restrictions on features in a firearm are eliminated, and bump stocks are free again. It is a little temporary sacrifice for a much greater gain.
Chalk it up to frustration, which is more than understandable.
I view the NRA’s move — if it works — as the only one that saves bump stocks. Which is why the Democrats will never permit it. They will want to pass legislation to ban bump stocks, and the RINOs will go along.
So either the ATF will review bump stocks, or Congress will outlaw them. There’s no third option. The NRA picked the best one.
The GCA and resulting ATF are a Constitutional infringement “LOOPHOLE” that needs to be
C L O S E D.
If you check out the ATF&E’s weekly emails (sign up here: https://www.atf.gov/contact and they’ll start popping up in your email Inbox in approximately 3 hours (CDT)) you will see that the sh_t that they brag highly on is just their “cooperative” efforts with the FBI and DEA. If they have to illegally sell cigarettes to pool money for operations THEY HAVE A SH_T-PILE OF EXPLAINING TO DO. Remember – a head of SEAL Team VI (Dev Gru) went to jail on similar efforts.
Farago, the article above maybe your most poignant yet. Nicely done.
So all the Antifa, BLM and Hollywood assh0les are on SSRIs? That explains it.
Say, I wonder what Harvey Weinstein was taking.
http://variety.com/2017/film/news/harvey-weinstein-sexual-harassment-leave-of-absence-new-york-times-1202581677/
I just spent an hour and 47 minutes on the phone with the freaking NRA trying to cancel my lifetime membership that I’ve had for over 27 years. I don’t know what the hell Wayne LaPierre is thinking he must have had a freaking stroke. Throwing a gun manufacturer even a stock manufacturer under the bus into the ATF is absolutely the most irresponsible and vindictive treatment of a gun company that I’ve ever seen. They need to fire Wayne LaPierre immediately. That guy is got a freaking screw loose. You never leave anyone behind, and that’s exactly what Wayne LaPierre did. He’s an ass hat with a capital a! If you guys are members of the NRA please call and give them a earful don’t cuss but tell him straight up ask them if Wayne LaPierre had a stroke and if he’s alright because he’s making the most stupidest decisions that he’s made in the last 27 years. That’s what we need is more gun control by the NRA if that didn’t already come through in the NFL Act of 1934 or 1986. I’ve had enough of the NRA time to break up that organization and set it of on fire. I thought the NRA was going to be a better organization with Pete Brownell running things that’s obviously incorrect. And I have a mind not to order any more crap from Brownells either. Please let me know ladies and gentlemen if there is another really sound Grassroots organization that is a second amendment supporter that would need more members more sponsors and more people to spend time in the field for them. The NRA has got their last free hour of Labor out of my ass. Rest in peace in our a scumbags.
I often suffer from “depression” and my wife wanted me to see a doc. That doc immediately put me on 1 SSRI and then I couldn’t sleep so gave me another pych drug to sleep. I saw a change in my behavior, my outlook on life, I was pretty much stoned and chilling enjoy life. I moved, I stopped going to that doctor and he never followed up to make sure I was “okay”.
Then after a while I found there was unwanted side effects on my drugs, got a new doc and new drugs. After a year maybe I wanted to get off the stuff, quit cold turkey, never talked to doc, no follow up to make sure I was “okay”
In the end I found out I don’t need drugs….I need MONEY but those docs are willing to throw out those drugs to anyone, each bottle said I may become more suicidal and even after the doc did not hear from me for months they never checked up on me. I find this to be very irresponsible.
These days my wife gives me crap cause I never go to doctors, never trust doctors, I do know the stuff they gave me messed with my brain and truly scary stuff. While it made me “happy” and maybe more enjoyable to be around, I also lost all drive to push myself to prosper, grow, and be successful in life.
It is my personality, I work and stress busting butt to get something like a new truck then I start all over to get that boat and rinse repeat…sometimes by time I get that boat it is time to get a new truck. It is who I am, it is my nature. I really wonder how many people are given these drugs when reality is the doc should have said, “Suck it up buttercup”
Also forgot to mention my kids….daughter 1 having a hard time with school and they put her on paying attention drugs….no side effect besides loss of appetite. Kid 2 was put on the same meds, was hearing voices and hallucinating, I kid you not and she did not tell us for weeks, she thought she was going crazy and the doctors never told us about this side effect because it affects .01% or something like that. Both kids are now off all meds as well
“Need I go on?”
Yes actually. I don’t think anyone has ever made a complete timeline of all the ATF scandals. Would be a good article.
RF, that’s a very good point, and one I frankly hadn’t considered. Thanks for this.
Dudley Brown is about Dudley Brown, not so much gun rights.
It is very disappointing to read all the TTAG comments who agree with the NRA on the bump stock accessory.
How many police officer’s have these bump stocks on their AR15??? Its is cheaper than buying an Uzi.
The bump stock is the poor mans machine gun. Now the easily fooled and frightened “gun community” supports making them illegal or so costly that only a “rich white man” will be able to afford one. Just like true machine guns now. Only for the rich.
I guess my membership is going to lapse. I really enjoyed Colion Noir’s videos.
Bullshit. The bumpfire stock has been on the market for nearly 8-10 years with zero homicides to this point?
What other products have an equivalent 5.8 deaths per year rate that you are planning to ban along with the bumpfire stock?
Okay, so the battle lines are drawn and we can see that the NRA is much smarter than they are given credit for, and much smarter than most of our commenters.
If the Dems have their way, bump stocks are banned. Period. If the NRA has its way, bump stocks will be re-evaluated by the ATF and probably regulated. There is no third option.
And BTW, the Dems were using this disaster to argue against silencers. ‘Memba that? Guess what — they stopped that bullshit and now have different raw meat to chew on.
We all knew that bump fire stocks were toast as soon as this massacre was linked to their use. You pick your poison.
OR they can’t do anything because you know they won’t stop at Bumps and add what will amount to poison pills….
I have always gotten the impression that LaPierre was just another sleezy corporate climber that found a job for life heading the NRA. He doesn’t even seem to be a bun guy. Does anyone have evidence to the contrary?
They want to ban “bump stocks”. Don’t worry folks, your bump fire stocks will be OK
“IF YOU LIKE YOUR BUMP-STOCKS, YOU CAN KEEP YOUR BUMP-STOCKS” – Wayne Hussein LaPierre, NRA Caliphaturd
“IF YOU CAN’T KEEP YOUR BUMP-STOCKS, SEND IN YOUR REGISTRATION FEES AND WE CAN FIGHT FOR THE NEXT 40 YEARS TO TRY TO MAKE POSTERS OF THEM LEGAL” – Wayne Hussein LaPierre, NRA Caliphaturd
I’ve come to think that, while I don’t agree with NRA on this, that they are playing a longer game, especially when it comes to keeping this from coming up for vote, where the Repub are forced to go on record.
However, I now really consider that the NRA is probably little more than the management company for the voting resource that is the US gun owner for the Republican party.
I am ashamed to call myself an NRA life member right now….!! Apparently what I heard while at the NRA meeting in Atlanta was a truckload of BULLSHIT!!
The only way I would be okay with the NRA supporting bump fire regulation is if they used it as a bargaining piece to get a greater piece of legislation such as national reciprocity or a national reversal of all state gun/magazine bans for any weapons not prohibited at the federal level.
As it stands right now, we gain nothing from this transaction. America didn’t give Republicans complete control of government because we wanted gun control. We wanted gun freedom. Any legislation that does not more the freedom needle forward is unacceptable in my eyes.
I would never ever trade bump-stocks for those. NEVER. But I’m ambivalent to using them as a foot-in-the-door for opening the machine gun registry. If the NRA doesn’t advocate “bans” as they say, the only other option is incorporating them into the NFA.
OR they may, just may, be smart enough to know that Feinstein would blow the whole effort up by introducing legislation that will surely go beyond bumpfire stocks, thus killing the entire discussion. I say hold off on the pitch forks until we know if some master plan was afoot. What’s the difference if you wait a few days to see where it’s going? We always admonish the lefties for their knee jerk reactions…maybe we should follow our own advice.
Quote Farrago: “NRA is calling for the ATF to regulate bump fire stocks”
This is false.
Chirs Cox vehemently denied this fake news on the tube last night.
Will it bump fire??
The NRA is a bunch of morons. If they sell out bumpfire stocks one of the things that would take the sting out of it is that the ATF doesn’t get to make such arbitrary decisions, but rather actual laws with strict parameters should be passed for regulation.
was a member for a few months. did some reading on them and realized they are just a attack dog for the gun industry companies and couldn’t care less about individual rights.
Of course the ATF can regulate them. In fact, they issued a ruling on them in the first place.
https://www.slidefire.com/downloads/BATFE.pdf
Hating on the NRA is pretty commonplace. So commonplace that one is often left to wonder if the haters are really agents provocateur.