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“Violent hip-hop generally falls into three distinct categories,” Robbie Etelson writes at, under the headline The 25 Most Violent Rap Songs of All Time. Those categories are: “gun clapping, physical beating, or slasher flick-style horrorcore songs. M.O.P., Grand Daddy I.U. and Big L prefer to reign down hot lead on all ‘foes and enemies,’ while Kool G Rap and The Convicts subscribe to the belief that a punch in the face can solve all of the world’s problems. Meanwhile, serial killers and cannibals are the violent protagonists of choice for Esham, Gangsta N.I.P. and the Gravediggaz.” Got it? So what are a bunch of hip-hop artists and producers doing crusading against “gun & gang” violence at NYC City Hall? The same thing porn stars would be doing if they were crusading for abstinence at a posh hotel: circle jerking and making fools of themselves without knowing or caring. Comments disabled for the video? Of course.

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  1. So what are a bunch of hip-hop artists and producers doing crusading against “gun & gang” violence at NYC City Hall? Oh, about what the darlings and dolls of Hollywood “Gun Action” movies do when crusading against “gun” violence at Hollywood Premiers. Gun$ for me, and none $ for thee.

  2. Ah, yes. Rallying against the very same thing that they promote, pretending to care about the victims that they create, feigning to shy away from the things that they do to make a living. Leftist hypocrisy in its purest form.

    • Yeah, but they CARE! And it’s all about showing that you CARE about the people you are exploiting.

      Plus doing a bit of theater for the rich libs who will donate to your “cause”, and keeping the Dem politicians from having the DA’s office look into your own illegal ownership of guns (’cause your “street creds” include at least one felony conviction, right?)

  3. It’s not totally fair to generalize all hip hop as violent. There’s always some artists who write about positive things. I mean it usually sucks worse than christian rock, but it exists. Personally, I prefer to keep my violence in my video games, TV, movies, and music rather than real life, so I’ll still bump to my horrorcore like brotha lynch hung.

  4. So what are they going to do to get guns off the street? Are they going to go to all the gang head quarters and demand that all the members turn in their guns? What a crock!

  5. Reminds me of the time Bristol Palin became the spokesperson for teens waiting to be married before having sex.

  6. The guy in the SOURCE shirt appears to be malnourished or something… I feel like his eyes are sunken in, as if he is ill.

    • Guy looks like he might be sick.

      It’s hard not to make a couple smart-ass comments after scanning that train wreck video but I don’t want to bust the guy’s balls w/o knowing his situation. And if it is drugs… who cares.

      • The issue is the abuse, the dog killing, the militarization, the training — there is a systematic problem. Any good cops are heavily mired by bad cops.

    • Rise of the warrior cop. It’s like a history lesson at first but then the book really gets going…and besides, I really liked the history behind law enforcement and I learned A LOT of things I had no idea about. Everyone should read that book. 29 bucks very well spent. Speak with your dollars.

    • As long as all those fine, upstanding officers made it home safely to their families, it’s a win in my book.

      Those people probably had it coming, anyways.

      • ” Stop right where you are! You know the score, pal. You’re not cop, you’re little people!”

        I watched Blade Runner a few days ago, this was fresh in my brain although Ive seen it on TTAG plenty.

    • Yeah, when I saw the title “Incendiary Video of the Day: Hip-Hop Against Gun & Gang Violence Edition”…

      I thought it was going to link to this piece…

      ‘This Is What Happens When You Call the Cops’ Rap: Catchy, True, Sad (

    • FYI, if you purchase the song or video from iTunes, 100% of the money goes to the medical bills of the baby that had a flash grenade thrown into his crib during a no-knock raid. He is also making a video/song for the family whose son was killed by cop when he came to the door with a Nintendo controller..

      • Thats actually a pretty good cause, I had to do a damn near triple read to make sure I understood that ha.

        Good for him, yea after watching that video Im just going to refrain from posting as my blood is up atm…

  7. There’s plenty of non-violent and/or socially conscious hip-hop. Black Star, Lauryn Hill, and A Tribe Called Quest, to name a few prominent examples. Gangsta rap is only a subgenre of hip-hop. But heck, even on Straight Outta Compton you had “Express Yourself”. Go back to the old school, Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five (“What is that, a gang?”), Eric B. & Rakim, Whodini—there’s no glamorization about violence. Violence is no more inherent in hip-hop music than it is in any other artistic medium. You might as well say all cinema or all novels are violent because you can point to some violent examples. Many of the masterpieces of rap music history are not violent at all, like Illmatic. And so what if they are? I love kung-fu movies, spaghetti westerns, “heroic bloodshed”, samurai chanbara, and Schwarzenegger films. I sometimes play violent video games. I love my classic Wu-Tang Clan and 1990s G-funk. I’m a responsible adult and I abhor murder and immoral violence! For me and billions of other mentally healthy people, it’s harmless fantasy, entertainment and art that we an take in stride.

    Way to be an out-of-touch ignorant old guy demonizing hip-hop, Robert.

    • I too got the “get off my lawn you darn kuds!” vibe from Robert. Seemed really outta touch and a bit hypocritical.

      Personally I listen to pretty much everything. My playlist includes Meho Puzic, Frank Sinatra, Wu-Tang Clan, Eric B. & Rakim, The Ink Spots, various metal & rock (Iron Maiden and Buddy Holly)+ a bunch of other stuff.

      Saying hip hop music is bad/ leading to violence is the same as saying “guns are bad, mkay?”.

    • You’re right, violence is no more inherent in hip-hop than any other music. Unfortunately, there’s no avoiding the fact that it’s the soundtrack to gang violence.

      Plus…”gun clapping”? WTF? Is that anything like thunderclapping?

      • It is the soundtrack to gang violence since that is what is primarily listened to in urban areas. Just like banjo music is the soundtrack to rape-by-redneck. If you are in an area where country music is popular criminals would most likely listen to that in that area. Same applies to biker gangs and rock/metal music, yet noone complains about that.

        • It might have been the soundtrack in Deliverance, but that was just a movie… You still find a ton of people in the country listening to Rap/Hip Hop and maybe some shitty new country/rock, Bluegrass is a big rarity for me to hear 🙂

          I liked your point about the biker gangs, although I think the lack of connection between the music again goes back to the prevalence of it, you can goto almost any city anywhere in our country and find some kind of gangster/gangbanger criminal element.

          Bikers dont have their own flavor of rock n roll either, we have Gangsta rap not Biker Rock!

          And as a redneck I am kind of offended haha TTAG is like Redneck hate central lately. Everybodys gotta pick one somebody I suppose.

    • Really, A Tribe Called Quest, Lauryn Hill, and Grandmaster Flash…..and Robert is the, “Get off my lawn” guy? Might as well say, Kriss Kross, Run DMC, Sir Mix-a-Lot, and Marky Mark and the funky bunch also don’t portray gun violence….Oh wait it is 2014…not 1994.

      Hip hop had a steady decline since the 90’s when Death Row records entered the scene and things went from being fun, educational, equal rights to just downright angry, violent, and demoralizing.

  8. “Hip-Hop Against Gun & Gang Violence”, surely that qualifies for a spot on the top ten oxymoronic phrases of all time.

  9. I counted 15 people, half of whom were politicians. MDA can field a bigger crowd than that. Summit? Proclamation? This is classic progressivism: “How to feel good about doing nothing and get paid for it.”

  10. I agree with a lot of people: it’s inaccurate to generalize hip-hop as violent. That might be similar to saying, “people who own guns are paranoid preppers.”

  11. Great, a bunch of people who have most likely encouraged/promoted violence through their careers, are now going to stop and preach the other way? HMMM Youre never supposed to go full derp, never.

    EDIT:Furthermore, I really doubt this non violent rap would even sell well, controversy sells.

    Violent Urban Culture with Violent Urban Music, odd connection? Ill stick with The Temptations.


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