The Illinois State Police have released the legally-binding design for private property owners in the Land of Lincoln who want to turn their property into a criminal enrichment zone. Here’s the official 411:
Owners of any statutorily prohibited area or private property, excluding residences, where the owner prohibits the carrying of firearms must clearly and conspicuously post the Illinois State Police approved sign, in accordance with Firearm Concealed Carry Act, at the entrance of the building, premises or real property. Please refer to Section 65 (Prohibited Areas) of the Firearm Concealed Carry Act for more information on statutory requirements for signage as well as where concealed weapons are prohibited . . .
Pursuant to Section 65(d) of the Firearm Concealed Carry Act, signs must be of a uniform design and the Illinois State Police is responsible for adopting rules for standardized signs. The Illinois State Police has proposed rules which require a white background; no text (except the reference to the Illinois Code 430 ILCS 66/1) or marking within the one-inch area surrounding the graphic design; a depiction of a handgun in black ink with a circle around and diagonal slash across the firearm in red ink; and that the circle be 4 inches in diameter. The sign in its entirety will measure 4 inches x 6 inches.
While it is the right of a private business owner to not allow firearms on their premise, I wonder how many will actually post it. I mean if they do then start getting robbed left right and center, well gee, maybe it wasn’t such a good idea.
Do they come in wallet size? i want to make sure that i’m not mugged.
Ah, the official “I hate logic, facts, and common sense, so please come rob me and everyone in here” sign.
“no text (except the reference to the Illinois Code 430 ILCS 66/1) or marking within the one-inch area surrounding the graphic design”
So the generic ‘gun-buster’ stickers won’t fulfill the rule of law… well, at least that’s better than if they’d let the generic stickers suffice. I’m assuming it’s like Texas where it has to spell out the 30.06 statute, or Arkansas where there’s specific wording that has to be complied with to be valid, but then again, it is Obamaland, so all bets may be off…
Should just make a sign that says “Dear customers/visitors, FOAD!”
That way the message would convey exactly what they wish us to do.
I think having a standard sign is a good thing. Here in NC there is little guidance in the statute for signage beyond making it conspicuous. One of the worst examples I have seen on a posted location (a Raleigh mall entrance): A monochrome gun busters symbol less than 2″ across placed on an automatic sliding door in such a way that by the time you get close enough to possibly tell what the prohibited symbol might be the door opens so that the symbol is mostly hidden behind one of the supporting posts for the glass wall.
Ever try shooting a .45 ACP out of something that small and light? I have. Some years ago, I had a device called a Downsizer WSP (World’s Smallest Pistol) … single-shot, break-open, double-action, stainless steel construction. It was about the size of a pack of Luckies. The idea was, if someone had you in a headlock and the world was turning black, you could pull this out, stick it into something soft, and pull the 16-lb. trigger. It probably hurt more on the receiving end, but just a bit. I finally sold it to a large Polish individual who was seriously into pain.
I carry everyday, all day. Winter, summer, spring and fall I’m packing.
Shorts and T-shirt
Bibs and flannel
snow suit
business suit
in my truck
on my horse
I’ll take the Double Tap
I’d take the Kahr and sell it. With the money, I would buy two Bersas.
What’s that smell?
Oh, nothing. My Glock just curdled.
“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” George Santayana (1863-1952), The Life of Reason (1905-1906), vol. 1, Reason in Common Sense
“Whoso neglects learning in his youth, Loses the past and is dead for the future.” Euripides (c. 490 – c. 430 B.C.), Phrixus, fragment 830
Really? Have you seen all the Youtubes of the DT where the 2nd unused round have dented primers? Other videos that even show double fires and the users with messed up hands. DT is a joke and a hazard.
If I was allowed to have my firearm it wouldn’t matter. However,,,,,,,,,
Wait what happened to the probable cause in checking the amount of rounds in the magazine in NY? Oh that’s right it’s NY…where the good guys are criminals and the criminals are good guys
Libtards (democrats) are evil. Inhale deeply the Zyklon-B, for the children. They (Big Gov) will steal your money while making you think they are doing you a favor. We the Sheeple do like our free stuff, however, which seems to be the big opening for their claws to reach.
I picture RF kicking back with a cigar smiling at how he just created a new and innovative way to kick off a caliber war without anyone noticing……
That said, .45 OR NOTHING!!!!111!!one
I’ve shot a lot of handguns, some of them lots of times. It’s not just caliber that’s at question, you also actually have to be able to hit something with it. We tend to think of pistol marksmanship as being a matter of innate talent coupled with training to produce the desired ability.
While that is the right formula, some guns are simply easier to shoot in the first place and require much less training. In this way there is isn’t much bad to say about a.380 bodyguard, but I’m never going to shoot it as well as a 1911 no matter how much I practice. 10lbs of long trigger pull, a two finger grip and very short sight radius on the one hand verses a short light trigger, longer sight plain and full size grip just isn’t a contest when training levels are equal.
For me the double tap is a novelty item. I suppose one could take it and train with it until proficiency is achieved, perhaps for someone with enough innate talent this could even be a fairly rapid process a lead to high levels of skill.
However for the same investment virtually everyone could more quickly learn to better shoot a higher capacity gun with a more practical reload drill in a viable defensive caliber while retaining all or nearly all of the double taps purported concealment advantages.
IMO this leaves the DT in a position where it is only a viable choice if it’s virtually the only choice available. I’d take it over a high standard .22 derringer, but not over a S&W bodyguard, a Ruger TCP, or any of the other guns it’s size or smaller with 3+ times it’s capacity and a more rapid reload.
I was virtually born a .45ACP guy, IMO all else being equal 9 rounds of it does trump 15 rnds of 9mm in a gunfight, but 2 rounds of it doesn’t trump 7 rounds of .380 or even 5 of 9mm. 2 rounds with a slow, unwieldy reload is not enough. It’s not even a proper comparison since ‘all else’ isn’t equal.
I suppose what I’m trying (pitifully) to say is that anyone can miss vital targets twice, even with good shot placement but doing so 9 times isn’t very likely if you’re properly trained. Thus while 15 rounds is likely more ammo than will ever be needed and doesn’t necessarily improve ones situation over 9 larger, more powerful rounds, 7 smaller, less powerful rounds does greatly improve ones chances of an incapacitating hit over 2 larger more powerful ones. There is some sweet spot of power, capacity, shootabilty and size, and it changes for everyone, or even for an individual as their circumstances change, but 2 rounds of anything isn’t enough for anyone to truly rely on.
and there you have it. The left and their evil task masters, the Democratic Party, are defining the opposition as “extremists”. I, myself, have been characterized as such. Such words have been routinely used to describe terrorists and other violent groups. If they want to make an enemy out of me, then I am perfectly OK with that. If that makes me an extremist, then so be it.
I’ve fired his 1911 in .357 and it’s quite a handful. Hand loads are really needed.
As for associating with these people it’s a free country and that’s his business. If you like Coonan products buy them. Or not.
To protect myself and my loved ones from unjust harm.
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