http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4UWcX-vrC4&feature=player_embedded
During last weekend’s NRA Annual Meeting in Houston, I gave a presentation on home defense concepts. One of the the suggestions I offered was keeping a gun – locked securely in a quick-access safe – in your child’s room. Just in case. As you may have heard, my tip was picked up by members of the anti-gun media (yes, that’s redundant) and has been spun as advice that gun owners store their firearms in their children’s room . . .
It’s interesting that out of everything these reporters saw and heard at the NRA meetings, the idea of taking steps to protect our homes and families… and especially our kids… is what they decided to demonize. It really is telling about the anti-gunners’ agenda. The obvious plan: hit the emotional high notes, ignore the logic and context of the concepts being covered and play to people’s worst nightmares.
When I talked about kids being in danger at the seminar, I was offering solutions to help people make kids safer. When they talk about kids being in danger, they aren’t proposing anything to help…in fact, they specifically downplay (or ignore) the safety issues that I brought up. As David Byrne might say, same as it ever was.
I had a loaded shotfun in the closet of my bedroom at the age of 13
He wasn’t even advocating that the guns be accessible to the children! That’s how much of the media has been portraying it, though. As though the message was to give kids their own guns and let them keep the guns in their room. They willfully distorted the message, which is basically to keep a locked safe with a firearm in your kid’s room (ideally out of their reach even), because that’s where you’re likely to run to immediately in the event of a break-in or other emergency. But… I’ve seen comments like “more of the NRA pushing guns on kids to indoctrinate them young” and all of that crap…. likening to the tobacco industry, etc…
At 10 years old I hadtwo guns in my room/closet. A 10/22 and a 20Ga
At any rate I like your thinking on it for home defense.
I truly hope the NRA has realized that they need to recruit more non traditional membership. I agree that our most vulnerable citizens can be law abiding citizens of the inner city. It is a crying shame that our so called civic leaders don’t or won’t see that. Hopefully, enough of us ” minorities” being members of the NRA, GOAL etc. will send a message. I can see it now, NRA lawsuits on behalf of inner city moms wanting to bear arms.
As my sister would say ……You go girls!
Can’t wait to hear/see how the LSM spins this!
Finally get it? I think it’s a promising development that some people on this site finally realize that they have a 5 million member organization fighting for their rights. The NRA has a myriad program of activities to take care of and does them well. As we’ve lately seen, it’s a master of lobbying and is largely responsible for preserving what rights we have left. This idea that there’s too many Old White Guys around is some kind of Death-Wish. You alienate them and you can kiss your guns good-bye!
The idea that there is some kind of Magic Formula that will suddenly make things go our way is naive. The demographic groups suggested as anti-gun have a long history of being so and need more than a “with-it” spokesperson to turn them around. Once again, I hate to repeat it, but what is needed is a program of relentless Lobbying, Demonstrations, Lawsuits and Public Education – stuff the NRA has been doing for years.
Reaching out is fine, and let’s have more of it, of coarse. Their web site could be “smoother” and let’s have that. Maybe Wayne can do better behind the scenes and leave the speechifying to others, BUT let’s also give credit were it’s due and support each other, hang together – lest we hang separately.
I have 2 lights I use. One is a 2 year old Cabela’s 90 lumen light that uses 2 AA batteries and has a Cree illuminator in it. This has been a great light, but a little larger for the pocket.
There is a company that makes a very good, affordable light for BIG 5 sporting goods here in the Western States. Nebo makes a line of branded US Army LED lights based on Nebo’s TAC line. I bought the TAC50 with the US Marine logo at Big 5 for $12.99. 50 lumens and uses one AA battery……very bright and affordable. It even has a beltclip and a very sharp defense bezel. They sell another one at Big 5 called the TAC 180 for $35 that is 180 Lumens and is a very nice light with multiple lighting settings. They have a 250 lumen unit on Nebo’s website that looks good for $39.99.
I have had my Tac 50 for about 3 months and use it almost daily. great little light.
http://www.nebotools.com/
http://www.nebotools.com/cat.php?cid=16
I think most of us understood the strategy and it makes perfect sense, least to me it does. Of course those not willing to think, heard it differently because as you know all guns are evil and bad. I mean just the other day a 22LR youth model went on a spree shooting in down town Chicago. All by itself even..
I don’t know whether or not the NRA (of which I am a member) has “woken up”, but I do get the feeling that they are “waking up”.
I certainly understand the logic and I get the fact that it is not the safety issue that the MSM wants to spin it into, but given the current environment we are in right now, I’m not sure how wise it is to give the wolves anything to chew on.
The problem is that we all assume logic will prevail, people will wake up to what the MSM and anti-gun pols have been feeding them and reject them wholeheartedly. I’m not sure that it going to happen. Humans suck at risk assessment and to the average person, they fear a gunman killing kids much more than they fear a drunk driver which is statistically more likely to take a child’s life.
People are being fed a steady diet of this crap from media outlets and their elected leaders, so why do we expect to them to figure things out for themselves. Sure, they may wake up momentarily when there is a report of a terrorist in the neighborhood, but a few weeks later, they are back to their original position with guns.
I think that barring some extremely potent leadership either from a pro-gun group that does not yet exist or some really smart pro-gun politicians, the anti-s are going to continue to control the conversation and people are not going to view Rob’s comments in the right context. They will see it as some crazy guy advocating storing guns in their kids room and that will simply not fly. Me – I keep my my guns in my bedroom. That seems to work well enough and keeps the peace at home.
The potential problem with keeping your guns in your bedroom is as Rob pointed out: This way or that way? Many older houses, like the one I grew up in, have the living areas at one end, and the bedrooms down the hall at the other. Most new houses, like the one my parents now live in, have the master suite at one end, and the other two (children/spare) bedrooms at the other, with the kitchen and living areas in between. If you’re in the living room, and you hear glass breaking in the direction of your child’s room, are you really going to want to run away from them to get your gun before returning to the far end of the house? That’s the point Rob was making.
I agree with Jim. His statement was poorly considered, especially in the context of recent events. I don’t care how nuanced your message is, advocating gun storage in a child’s bedroom the week after headlines of a kid shooting his sister because of the same, just isn’t smart strategy, unless your strategy is to give the gun grabbers another incendiary headline.
Also, people who trust any mass market ‘quick access gun safe’ to secure a gun against anything except the most casual attempt are kidding themselves. If you haven’t seen the videos from Marc Tobias, he shows a three year old opening several popular safes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erGOJxQIf5c
How paranoid and contrite should we be?
I was teaching a Home Defense seminar at the NRA Annual Convention. If that isn’t the “right place” to put out solid advice, then the other side has won.
They can twist and chew on whatever they want… I won’t stop putting out information that might save lives.
Meanwhile, I am also willing to step into their world and explain/correct. As you can see HERE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtJdv55LwOw .
We can’t cower.
-RJP
I read the story.
My comment:
You have GOT TO BE Fu<king kidding me.
guess not.
If the anti-gunners aren’t freaking out, then you haven’t spoken the truth.
I didn’t even have to watch the video to know the very reasonable idea you were proposing. But the anti-gunners wouldn’t be able to understand it even they watched it a hundred times.
And I’m about to move to suffolk… nice.
I never grew up with a gun in the house (odd since I live near Dallas) but I can see why its a sound idea to some and a bad idea to others. They key is how much you trust your kids and how your kids react to such things.
Texas State Guard FTW!
Kudos to Arizona by the way. 🙂
Man that looks like fun.
Holy crap, yeah it does.
What’s really funny and ironic here is the fact that there will be no new immigration legislation passed under this admin. So Biden is basically saying after the next FAILURE we will move back to the gun issue where we already FAILED only to probably FAIL again. Anyone catching the key word here?
A big BOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Bullpups suck in all calibers and types.
This is old news – SB1495 was signed into law 2 years ago. Even the capitol times article you linked to was posted 2 years ago…
Perhaps the new state militia can start a guest training program. For a fee you can come to Arizona, train and patrol with their militia, learn the skills and bring back new knowledge to your own state. Might be a nice little revenue stream for AZ too.
My daughters and I were tricked by the l-media at the air gun range during the meeting. The reporter had a “NRA Media” badge and seemed very enthusiastic about what the girls were doing. On the back of the badge it said who he was with and I caught that after I spoke with him.
I am glad we went and we learned a lot and enjoyed the exhibit hall. My favorite part was when the RO asked my youngest “were you aiming for that squirrel?” She proceeded to plink it four more times with the air pistol. This being the third time she’s ever been shooting. Even when these particular media types twist your story, they still sound stupid. I guess they must be the types that love just listening to themselves and what they think/ wish they heard.
“Someone got excited (Eric Holder?),
Had to call the state militia,
I wanna move…..”
If you’re over the age of Majority, you’re in the militia, whether you like it or not.
I’m glad to see Arizona making a move on this.
Every state needs to do this. And if the states won’t, the citizens need to step up. The NRA needs to start going in this direction, as our revered Founders had intended. Self reliant groups of citizens banding together to face existential threats in a well regulated manner. Small unit tactics, first-aid/trauma management, logistics, intelligence, disaster preparedness, neighborhood/AO defense/offense. Neighbors, friends, family taking seriously their rights and duties to defend the Constitution, their civil rights and their communities against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
While I feel for these people in their struggle I feel that providing arms to them will come back to bite us in the ass. These guys ain’t exactly pro democracy or pro American and they may very well topple their present regime just to replace it with a hard line anti western leadership. We have much to lose and nothing much to gain by supporting them.
Any support we send to that part of the world should go to the Isrealis.
That worked out so well before for us in Afghanistan. You would of thought we would learn the first time around. Betcha the “freedom fighters” come back to bite us on the @$$ as history has proven.
Hey jwm, seems we both got that bite thing at the same time……
And don’t forget Lybia. They’ve a novel idea of how to repay a debt…
No, the Bengazi debacle wasn’t a popular protest, but the locals – especially the constabulary – sure were slow to lend a hand.
No good deed goes unpunished over there.
They can’t get background checks, what makes anyone think this has any chance of getting past Congress? The government page linked in Nick’s commentary states this piece of garbage has less than a 2% chance.
lets stick to beans and blankets and stay out of it.
I am happy to say that I have supported Gov Brewer throughout her career. (State legislature, Secretary of State, and Governor)
Even if I didn’t already like her, the Obama tarmac incident would have changed my mind.
I appreciate the freedoms that we have here in AZ, such as open carry for as long as I can remember, and more recently, constitutional carry.
But if the desert heat doesn’t keep me humble, I remind myself that we also foisted McCain, Flake, and Napolitano into the national scene. Almost as annoyingly flaccid is that we fall under the jurisdiction of the 9th circuit court of appeals.
Thankfully, madam Brewer has a pair.
This is consistent. The Anti-Constitution Party has worked to pass a lot of gun laws, which always seem to benefit only criminals. See Chicago, D.C., New York, etc. They worked hard to keep freed slaves in the Reconstruction South from being armed, but somehow the KKK (the Anti-Constitution Party’s terrorist wing) always seemed to have guns. And rope.
This Administration supported the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, and for practical purposes Al Qaeda in Libya, and got us Benghazi. So it would be consistent for them to support Al Qaeda in Syria, and we can guess now what the resulting disaster will be.
But, yes, they reliably favor bad guys and worse guys at the expense of the good guys. Very perverse.
And now Israel stands to lose the most from AQ’s increasing dominance in the region, which will most likely be the case when Assad gets tossed.
Colion is everything LaPierre is not; hip, articulate, interesting, young and relevant. He should be the official mouthpiece for the NRA.
Not o my do both sides hate Israel, both sides are fundamentalist which means they acknowledge the Medinian verses. Also recall that the rebels are infiltrated and led by Al Qaida and it is the rebels who murdered and/or displaced the Christians in Homs.
Our toucby feely, peace before armed citizenry Democrats in the City of the Dead have all to e over to the dark side and the dark side is ruled by the demon, Allah.
I catch hell at work all of the time, esp from White liberals. Why? A well-educated, church going, Black conservative who likes guns and won’t tow the standard race baiting talking points,really throws their world off-kilter. Colion is good for representing the Brothers.
@Dan: Any reason you chose to use this unspecific NRA News image/link rather than embedding the YouTube video directly?
I’m an OFWG, and I say let Noir become the spokesman for the NRA. Maybe find others like women or young white guy, but Noir should be our current face. I assume LaPierre is good working with the government, if so, let him keep working with congressmen, but keep him off of the television and radio.
Good video, and it shows that at least SOMEONE at the NRA understands the war over protecting our 2A rights is just as much a battle over culture as it is over laws in the legislature. Women gun owners have been a group “on the rise” for years, and they needed to be included as a part of an overall strategy by the NRA.
This + Colion Noir is good start. Let’s hope it’s just the beginning, and the not all the NRA is willing to do.
You know what I don’t get?
Minority groups who have been targeted by violence, by either a majority group or another minority group…shouldn’t they be all for legal self defense options?
I thought this was great advice. I’ve pondered, while sitting in traffic, “do I go get the kid and then go for the gun or grab the gun 1st?”.
Problem solved.
Exactly, exactly.
I can’t help but think his term “Chocolatie Goodness” would be a great name for a stripper!
The smirk! The smirk at the end is just fantastic!
I hope he keeps doing what he’s doing, because he is REALLY good at it. In a few years, once he’s had some time to build connections, I think he’d be an excellent replacement for WLP.
i just got me an acc i think for the money is pretty darn good, about the can,…well i have to save some more money for that, for the scope i got a leupold mark 4- 6.5-24 x 50 on it and is perfect for it and a primary weapons systems pws prc 5/8-24 muzzle brake for it until i get my can, and a harris 6-9 br bipod on it, we had a lot of fun with it at the range, and this thing is a tac driver, we shot 100, 200, and 300 yds. with it. …..i am no expert at this stuff, but i have to say that for an average joe this is an affordable, good and pretty accurate piece, i highly recomended.
Screw these assholes!
“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” Candidus, Pen name of Samuel Adams during the era of the
Sons of Liberty. Source: in the Boston Gazette, 1772
I’m forced by their actions, arrogance, and outright lawlessness to believe that the usurpers, tyrants, and thrashers of our Constitution won’t get it until we show them in no uncertain terms what the Founders had in mind when they crafted the 2nd Amendment.
“When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance becomes Duty” – Thomas Jefferson
We no longer have the model of government that the Founders established. The communist globalists that have taken over our government ignore the Constitution’s limits on what government can do. 95% or more of the federal bureaucracy and its “regulations” are unconstitutional. Most of the federal laws are unconstitutional. The problem is that the traitors have infiltrated all 3 branches, executive, legislative, and judicial.
Interesting statement by the first presenter, what are they going to do about the “out of control epedemic” referring to gun violence. Guess they haven’t read the latest reports from the Justice Department.
Punches in the face do cause severe bodily injury.
Personally, I have been in a few fights in my younger days. Fights are dangerous and stupid. People DO get hurt and could possibly be killed. If in a position where a physical confrontation doesn’t look avoidable your best best is to probably draw your weapon and try to back out. Do your best to withdraw and if someone is stupid enough to keep coming, it’s hard to tell what they would do to you, so torch them.
Lets talk about what will happen right or wrong aside. You use a gun on an unarmed person (singular) outside of your home and you are in a world of hurt. Chances are very high that you will be charged with some type of felony – even if the person lives. More than likely, even if you prevail in court you will be broke from legal fees after your hung jury/not guilty verdict is read.
You use a gun in a straight fist fight – no weapons present, one attacker, not in your home, not going for your gun . . . and I would hate to be your lawyer. Even if the guy is bigger than you and has/had violent tendencies. Even if you are female: yes I went there. Prisons are full of male and females who claimed self defense (whether it was so or not). This is where having a less-than lethal option can help. Also, try to get away. The Castle Doctrine does not apply outside your castle. If you are taking multiple strikes from an aggressor who is following you – then things change a bit.
No one is saying you cannot fight back – just do not use the gun. Not everybody thinks like you all here. Philosophically your reasons can make all the sense in the world, and a jury could reject them because most jurors lack sense.
Thank the lord there are other States bucking up and getting the attention of the DOJ for wanting to get back to their Constitutional rights as a State. Holder and company hate everything Arizona does as a Free State to take care of our own business and we’ve been constantly beat up but by them but they’ve been proven wrong to the point they dropped their case.
Kudos to Kansas and Missouri! We need more States to give the Feds the middle finger and tell them to concentrate on the limited powers the Constitution grants them.
Polls are ridiculous and worthless. What counts are the actual numbers.
We’ve the media to blame for the perception that violent crime seems worse. Too many folks watch the news on TV or read the paper and never question a thing or consider maybe, just maybe, they’re getting fed an opinion and not the facts.
I watch TV, I read the paper then cruise multiple worldwide news sites daily. In this modern age I don’t feel I can form an informed opinion without multiple angles on a subject. I find it easier to find the “sweet spot” of an issue after hearing/reading all the angles I can.