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Robert Farago

Robert Farago is the former publisher of The Truth About Guns (TTAG). He started the site to explore the ethics, morality, business, politics, culture, technology, practice, strategy, dangers and fun of guns.

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  1. So civilians (the po-po) can carry “weapons of war” on our streets or are they considered “military” and hence we now have military deployed on US soil, potentially against US Citizens? Just curious . . . .

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    • Those aren’t AR’s and M4’s, those are Patrol Rifles. The weighted riot gloves are Bruise Protection glovelets. / I have to say, cops are incredibly fashion-sensitive. Almost like they could produce new costumes for the Village People. Can’t imagine how brutal it must be stuck on a low-budget PD where you can’t buy the new must-have SpecOps fashion accessory.

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  2. These are the type of weapons ,tactics ,and officers that the citizens will be facing when the 2nd Revolution begins,that is unless they go home to protect their own families.As for the picture of the subject being stopped by the officers,how come there are none of these “soldier” cops surrounding the vehicle were they assigned to protect more important areas,such as the Prez?Probably so since he has to be protected but citizens don’t need guns for protection,or so he says.Be prepared and ready.Keep your powder dry.

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  3. What happened to the well-groomed, professional looking police depicted in classic TV. Dress blues on patrol and hair have both apparently gone the way of the dinosaurs. /*wanders off to find Adam-12 on DVD*/

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  4. At this particular juncture I’d be more interested in truthfully discovering just HOW the deceased lady came to be surrounded by officers pointing their sidearms at her. I’m betting on crazy but it could very well have been a honest mistake, too. Unfortunately we’ll most likely never know.

    Tom

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  5. watch the video of the woman in the car escaping. First cop on the scene fails to block her escape by leaving too much space for her car. Then when she goes around the fountain the idiot cops follow her around in a circle failing an opportunity to block her exit. keystone cops live!

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  6. Having worked on the SA (Situational Awareness) or C2 side of the house just recently and for many years…. No, it’s not ready. We can barely get BFT to work in real time, let alone a fully integrated COP (Common Operational Picture). First and foremost, the transmission medium is not ready to handle the bandwidth that the current COP requires, let alone any future additions. Is it doable? Yes and no. Anything is possible, with unlimited resources and accepting some consequences/risks. Is it viable? No, not yet.

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  7. Haven’t those guys heard? Double barrel shotguns way, way easier to aim and shoot than any other rifle ever. Why are they still messing around with those terrible AR style weapons? It doesn’t any sense I tell you…

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  8. Well, if they don’t like the 2nd amendment the way it stands, they could refer to the Constitution, Article V. If you don’t like the Constitution, then go ahead and amend it, if you can get enough stupid people to go along with you.

    But I say, if you’re going to bother to call a Constitutional convention, then we should abolish the 16th before we let them do anything else.

    There’s even another way to look at that “well-regulated milia” thing. When the gov’t militia gets cocky, it’s the duty of well-armed citizens to say, <*RACK*> Not so fast, Bucko!

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  9. I own a Hi-Point C9. It is a good gun. shots everything I have put in it. Accurate, yes its heavy, that helps with the recoil. It is an inexpensive gun. Let me ask you a question. If you were involved in a shooting what would you rather turn over to the police, an inexpensive pistol or a $1200 pistol (i.e. Kimber)? I have found out that people who put down inexpensive weapons are closed minded. They haven’t shot them and don’t know what their talking about.

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  10. I think about the time that our police forces start looking like Special Forces it’s time to cool down the arms and equipment (including uniforms) headed on over to John Q. Lawdog…. I see PVS-14’s, M4’s, Sig’s, HK’s, military body armor… are they in the capitol or Fallujah? If it’s Fallujah it sure does look different from the last time I saw it back in ’08.

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  11. @1:16 – he racks the slide WITH THE TOW LINE ATTACHED TO THE TRIGGER GUARD, and a magazine with live rounds in it…. He follows FORWARD with his hand, and muzzles his off hand before shooting.

    … I was kinda hoping he shot his hand off… Call me morbid, but complacency is the mother of all fuck ups.

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  12. Even though I don’t believe California legislatures will care how many petitions are delivered, I wrote, called and emailed because I DO know that they will help if the fight comes to my neck of the woods, but between this group, that group and every other gun rights group asking for donations, I am going flat broke.

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  13. I always thought the definition of an assault rifle is a rifle that is capable of fully automatic fire. Like the M16A1 and the AN-94(which AFAIK has no exclusively semi-automatic version).

    Am I wrong?

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  14. Assault Weapon
    1. Any implement used as a tool for assault.
    2. US Military term for an automatic weapon in an intermediate caliber.
    3. A propaganda term applied to arbitrary firearms by anti-gun ownership interest groups, invented and proliferated in the late 20th and early 21st century.

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  15. The definition I’ve always been told is a shoulder fired gas operated SELECT FIRE weapon of intermediate caliber. oh and select fire means more than 2 settings on the bang switch.

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  16. There are a lot of good polymer handguns on the market today . To me it’s really comes down to personal preference. I own 2 Glock 19 Gen 4’s made in 2013 and they run flawlessly. I have to say Nick has picked a overall winner.

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  17. I read the post above and even went to their website and I only understand about a third of what they are talking about. I guess that I’m just too old a dog to learn all these new tricks. I’m more comfortable with line up the sights, make the gun go BOOM and watch the target fall. If I gotta program the darn gun just to shoot, it will be like my VCR player, not used much.

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  18. Ok where pushing really hard on the negative police shooting theory’s with very little info just like the media does with every slightly conteversial self defense shooting lets give it day and wait for more info ; just like the media should with these situations! Ok? Can just everyone take a breath. Do it with me *IN* and *OUT* and IN* and *OUT*

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  19. Mental health issues, attempted mass murder – where have I heard that theme before? Looks like she’s from CT too. Guess gun control is working there, because she had to use her Lexus. Per yesterday’s posting, can automobile control be far behind? I mean, if it saves just one child’s life, how can we not do it for their sake? Again, deranged people don’t kill, automobiles (and guns?) do!

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  20. These assholes in California are going to do what ever suits their PERSONAL agenda anyway ,but they are still in violation of federal law.Article 18 sub chapter 926 US federal codes.

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  21. The CA legislature, much like the DC legislature, will do whatever they please. They don’t have to listen to the people because the districts in the state (and in the nation) are so heavily gerrymandered that their re-election is guaranteed.

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  22. Any weapon used to assault a person who does not have the ability to defend themselves. Includes frying pans, pens, keyboards,cameras, democrats, rocks and hammers.

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  23. These were some of my favorites before this survey was pulled out of another post a few days ago:

    * DANGEROUS

    * THEY DANGEROUS (There were at least a dozen variations on this answer, all just one or two words)

    * PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS GUNS, I DON’T KNOW THAT MUCH ABOUT GUNS BUT THEY SEEM KIND OF WICKED (I feel like this was a pro-gun person trolling)

    * ANYTHING THAT IS NOT A PISTOL (Anything ?!)

    * HIGH ROUND OF AMMO AND DOES MORE DAMAGE THEN A REGULAR GUN (But see, then you have to define a regular gun)

    * ONES THAT CAN SHOOT LONGER BULLETS (So… .22LR as opposed to .22 Short?)

    * ANY WEAPON USED TO PERFORM AN ACT OF VIOLENCE (There’s your pro-gun guy again)

    * A WEAPON THAT IS DESIGN TO PROVIDE MAXIMUM DAMAGE BEYOND WHAT IS NEEDED FOR HUNTING AND PERSONAL PROTECTION

    * SOMETHING THAT HAS MULTIPLE AUTOMATED ROUNDS THAT COULD KILL MULTIPLE PEOPLE IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME (Automated rounds? I want some of those!)

    * A FULLY AUTOMATIC WHICH ONLY THE MILITARY HAS. NO ONE HAS AN AUTOMATIC. I’M NOT WILLING TO GIVE UP AN AR-15, WHICH IS A SEMI-AUTOMATIC WHICH IS NOT THE SAME (This guy’s heart’s in the right place, but he’s still wrong)

    * FILTHY (Stop picking on me! I clean my guns when I want!)

    OK, that’s enough. There are hundreds of responses, and >80% of them are from people clearly gun-ignorant. This is why education is important, because most of them are operating from the wrong facts, and some of them could probably be swayed by a little knowledge.

    I’ll leave you with this one:

    * BIG KNIFE

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  24. The UI/UX Design is horrible. What year is it? The interface looks like something I pulled out of my butt when I first started designing.

    Pass it off to real designers. Enough of the StarTrek garbage.

    That said… Looks like an awesome tool, though it is cheating, I wouldn’t mind owning one..

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  25. It seems to me that it is about time that the people of California take up arms in the spirit of the 2A and put rounds on target as soon as the targets are done getting this law passed…. just sayin’

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  26. Gee… wonder exactly how many were ever in the military… probably picked out a few… oh wait!, these were ALL CONGRESSmen and women…

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  27. And with that the NRA just sold about 50 more T Shirts to this young ladie’s classmates. Isn’t funny how public schools react when shunned by media?

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  28. “My boys also know that they must stop immediately if someone expressed discomfort with the play”

    I brought this very concern up to my mother once when I was young and playing airsoft, her response was
    “If they have a problem they can go f*ck themselves.”

    Luckily nobody ever had a problem.

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