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We don’t review many air guns here at TTAG, but it’s a segment of the American gun industry that’s growing right alongside traditional firearms. Thanks to modern enhancements in compressed air technology the guns are getting more powerful and more accurate every year. In fact, it’s gotten to the point where hunting medium sized game with an air rifle is actually a feasible option. Sam Yang Industries have come out with a series of air rifles designed to fill that specific niche — air rifles for hunting — and their “top of the line” model is the Dragon Claw. Air Venturi is the US importer and they were nice enough to send me one to review . . .

The last time I fired an air rifle was when I was with the Penn State rifle team back in college. We had a few Walther air rifles that we used for 50-foot 3-position shooting, and those were some amazing guns. But they still looked like your typical air rifle — mechanical, austere, and using the kind of styling that only a mechanical engineering student could appreciate. So when Air Venturi said they were sending me an air rifle, that’s the image I had in mind. What I got was something much more beautiful.

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The Dragon Claw is a compressed air rifle that fires a 1/2-inch diameter 210 grain slug at about 650 feet per second. For those doing the math, that’s roughly the same muzzle energy as a 9mm round, but with a ton more mass and surface area. The gun is a single shot affair, meaning that each round needs to be loaded into the chamber before the gun can once again be cocked and fired. The charging handle on the right side of the gun clicks into place at a rearward position and is released by the trigger to fire the gun, so you also have to yank that thing back every time you fire. It’s quite the to-do compared to chemical propellants, but it gets the job done.

The trigger is actually not that bad on this rifle. It feels almost exactly like an ALG Defense QMS trigger — just a touch heavy with a fairly clean break. For this price point it’s actually one of the best triggers I’ve felt, which was a pleasant surprise. There’s also a cross-bar safety on the trigger guard which works very well, and I actually prefer that over the tang safety of the Mossberg ilk for hunting rifles.

The only caveat I have about safety is that you need to make sure that it’s engaged before you take it out to the range. I forgot to flip the safety on before I tucked it with a full tank into my range bag, and it snagged the charging handle on something in the bag and accidentally discharged a bit of air in the parking lot of the range. No harm and no foul, but something to be aware of.

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The chamber is covered by a small movable metal covering which allows you to load the slugs into the gun for firing. Word to the wise: shove them as far into the front of the pipe as you can before pulling the trigger. I let one of the RSOs at the local range give it a try and he just plopped the round in there, and when he pulled the trigger the slug jammed against the side of the chamber. It wasn’t a disaster since they’re easy to remove (I get the feeling that this problem is common enough to warrant some time in the engineer’s designs) but when I properly loaded it the gun functioned every time without fail.

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The propellant for this gun is compressed air, and is stored in an on-board air tank located underneath the barrel. The tank comes in the box fully loaded, and you can re-fill it conveniently from a standard SCUBA tank using a small adapter. Or you could just take it to the local dive shop and tell them to “fill ‘er up” as I did, and they’ll usually happily comply. Then again, the local dive shop is roughly 500 feet from my doorstep.

Can I just take a minute here to talk about the blued steel on this gun? It’s a very nice satin-like finish on both the barrel and the air tank, and it looks and feels almost like a collector grade firearm rather than a cheap air rifle. It’s something that no only is functional, but looks damn good at the same time. Even the wood furniture on this gun is amazing, with a beautiful grain and well formed cheek piece. It’s a stunning work of art, especially for an air rifle and especially at this price point.

The gun ships with a set of iron sights installed, but there’s also space for an accessory rail on top of the receiver. So if you think a scope or a red dot is necessary you can add it yourself.

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With a full tank, you get right around 10 shots before the gun starts running low. The air rifle doesn’t automatically adjust to maintain a constant velocity, so as the tank starts to run dry you’ll see your shots start to lose velocity and dip low on the target. Even running the thing on empty I was able to consistently hit about a fist sized target at 50 yards though, which is the stated effective range of the air rifle. It’s not exactly the most accurate thing I’ve ever tested, but it performs well enough to meet the design specifications and be effective in the field.

While the gun doesn’t automatically meter the air flow, the user can. The charging handle has two “stops” built into the travel, the first one being “low” power and the second being “high” power. It allows you to switch from targeting that rabbit to aiming at a deer and adjust your muzzle energy accordingly for the larger quarry. It’s an intuitive system that doesn’t require any tools to change between the two settings.

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I fully admit that I was blown away by this air rifle (har har). But there are still some minor nits I’d like to pick. The forend, for example, is way too short to be able to get a good offhand grip on the gun for shooting. And the mechanical bits look and feel a bit… cheap. But other than those two complaints, it’s a fine gun that will indeed work as a hunting rifle. Especially given the price, it’s not a bad option for those looking for a touch more beauty in their lives.

Specifications:

Chamber: .50 inches diameter
Barrel: 21.6 inches
Weight: 7.65 pounds
Capacity: Single shot
MSRP: $729.99

Ratings (Out of Five Stars):
All ratings are relative compared to the other weapons in the gun’s category. Overall rating is not mathematically derived from the previous component ratings and encompasses all aspects of the firearm including those not discussed.

Accuracy: * * *
The more you fire, the lower the shots drop. But they all stay within the size of my fist at 50 yards, which is good enough.

Ergonomics: * * * *
The rifle feels pretty good, but the forend isn’t long enough for me to be comfortable.

Customization: * *
There’s a scope rail… and that’s about it. Still, what else would you want?

Overall Rating: * * * *
For the price, it’s a damn fine gun. Sufficiently accurate, beautiful, and reliable to boot. Not a single malfunction in the entire time I shot it, with the exception of user-induced error. If you can’t get your hands on a real firearm for whatever reason, or you just want something different, this is an excellent choice for hunting season.

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  1. Not that the Koreans don’t make an awesome gun but the better PCP airguns do have regulators and more consistent, extremely accurate shooting out way past 100 yards. Drop down in caliber to a .22 or .25 and you can get 50-100-plus shots from a normal-sized reservoir. Try a nicer Air Arms, FX, Daystate, HW, RAW, or Steyr ;-p

      • I’m an avid airgun shooter. If you are looking for a range / hunting PCP rifle to start out with, take a look at the Benjamin Discovery, or the Benjamin Marauder. Both are chambered in .177 and .22. The Marauder is also in .25. My .22 Disco will reach out to 40 yards, and up to 50 with no wind grouping a just under 1 inch. At 30 yards it groups at 1/4 inch. Two things about air guns. PCP’s need a pump or an air tank. And almost all of them will have a specific pellet that works.

        • My Benjamin discovery groups one hole at 25 yds quarter size at 50 yds and 50 cent piece at 75 yards …. consistent accurate and effective … at 75 yds one shot one kill on full grown jack rabbits in northern California where they grow pretty big. Haven’t had a jack rabbit go more than 6 feet from where they were hit. And they do not suffer just drop dead. Carry the hand pump get a bullet mold and for shtf all you will need is material to cast bullets. … I don’t know how long the bicycle tour high pressure pump will last before it needs rebuilding I would love to hear from someone in that.

      • Yes there is a air rifle called the benjamin discovery and it comes in .177 and .22 and it runs 259.99 for just the rifle and 400 for the rifle and a high pressure hand pump to fill it.And pyramyd air is a great site to buy from.I hope this helps have a good one.

        • There is no point to a single shot .22 Pcp rifle imo. If you are going to have the hassle of reloading a cocking for every shot, you can get an equally powerful nitro piston .22 air rifle for 1/4 the price and you don’t have to pump air into them every 10 -30 shots. They don’t get less powerful or accurate after every shot either. PCP rifles make sense if you get a more expensive repeater or semi-auto model.

          For target shooting, a co2 powered rifle is preferable for me. For $200 you can get a semi-auto 750fps pellet rifle that fires 200 .177 pellets before it needs a new co2 cartridge. Co2 cartridges can be quickly reloaded in the field too.

    • This. ^

      “Thanks to modern enhancements in compressed air technology the guns are getting more powerful and more accurate every year.”

      The Dragon Claw is none of these. It’s a very nice airgun but it’s old tech. How many shots per fill do these get? 2? This is the Brown Bess of PCPs.

  2. At first glance, it looks like this gun has an underbarrel under its underbarrel underbarrel.

    • They had a preview photo of it on facebook a while back and I thought it was something like a semi-automatic .22 hornet with 2 or 3 shotgun barrels hanging from the bottom.

  3. Not being familiar with air rifles, how loud is it? And can you charge it from a standard air compressor? That might be a good “garden varmint defense tool.”

    • No you need high pressure air from a more expensive compressor rig or a special HPA hand pump. I imagine this would be loud compared to most other air guns but I’ve never fired one.

      If you’re curious, Pyramid Air is a good dealer with lots of information, also the best forum is http://www.network54.com/Forum/79537/. Cheers

    • My .22 cal air Beeman air rifle is louder than my suppressed 10-22, but quieter than the 10-22 unsuppressed, shooting standard velocity rounds.

      The pre-charged pneumatic rifles like this one require a lot more pressure for recharge than a regular shop compressor will put out. However, you can get (if the rifle doesn’t come with one) a high pressure hand pump. They don’t need much volume, just high pressure – so a pump isn’t too onerous to use.

      • A lot more pressure and moisture is a huge factor. You would never ever pump one up with a house compressor. I use a scuba tank that I have professionally filled and I have only filled it three times ever.
        Moisture and contamination is a PCP rifle killer.

  4. Interesting review.

    A 210 grain .50 cal slug at 650 FPS comes in at just under 200 foot pounds. So basically a rifle that shoots at the same energy level as a .380 ACP – for 6-8 rounds, before dropping to an even lower power level, and then an air refill is required. For an MSRP of $729. That’s a tough sell.

      • My hawkin with a 370gr maxiball= 1271 FPS – 1328 ft/lbs at muzzle with a 80gr powder. This air rifle is no where close to that.

        • It’s not but can road way faster.
          Consider the Lewis and Clark expedition used the girandoni air rifle …. it could shoot 40 rounds reload in 1 second and could be pumped up with hand pump…. no worries of bad caps wet flint wet powder…. fully capable in the rain or shine you can swim a river and even fire from the river. …. everything has tradeoffs ….. back in Lewis and Clarks day I would have had to own the girandoni if I knew it existed. It would definately mean survival in most situations…. in fact it would be comparable to going into battle today with a bolt action compared to full auto….
          I’m going to build me a copy of girandoni’s rifle because even today it is an awesome weapon …. shtf I want a girandoni it will be the best choice because powder will run out …. with a suppresor it’s very silent and it’s lethal. I have a Benjamin discovery 22 suppresed … its silent and effective at 100 yards. … no one will hear it nor will they know direction it came from. …. in going to modify my discovery to get more shots and from a clip. …. I served in the army and it is my belief that a bolt action is better than full auto …. I do prefer automatic but given the choice I would choose bolt action over something that only fires full auto and save my ammo …. spray and pray leaves you empty and dead.

    • “Interesting review.

      A 210 grain .50 cal slug at 650 FPS comes in at just under 200 foot pounds. So basically a rifle that shoots at the same energy level as a .380 ACP – for 6-8 rounds, before dropping to an even lower power level, and then an air refill is required. For an MSRP of $729. That’s a tough sell”

      Depending upon what you’re selling. People are hung up on foot pounds of energy, as they are with Airguns too, but it is a way to compare. 200 foot pounds is a lot of energy in a round ball, which has more penetrating capacity than most people give it credit for. Energy levels of round balls is more for “getting it there” than for penetration on game. With a round ball, it doesn’t take much to be lethal, and balls generally sail right through game.

      Air guns at close range are are certainly lethal and bullets at even modest velocity will easily penetrate vitals. There are diminishing returns with an Airgun and most accomplished hunters probably will not be comfortable hunting with anything less than a .357/9MM projectile, but Kudu have been taken with a .177 Gamo at 20 yards… so exception rule as they usually do. Most hunters don’t take head shots, but airguns and their accuracy allow for extremely lethal shots even with smaller calibers with this shot.

      Hunting with Airguns is nothing new either, they’ve been around since the 1700’s and Lewis and Clarke used them for hunting on their trek west. Being unfamiliar with airguns makes for poor comparison of performance. Airguns are more closely related to muzzleloaders in how they work, and if you are familiar with the round ball or the conical, you quickly understand the dynamics of the two projectiles and how they differ from each other and of modern projectiles. They all do the job!

      Aloha…

  5. Another source of large caliber air rifles is Quackenbush Air Guns.

    People hunt big game with these types of air guns. The Lewis and Clark expedition’s air rifle is, IMO, arguably the most important gun in American history.

  6. For all you readers, I have one. Well sort of, it’s the Sumatra 2500. Same thing. It’s in .22. As air rifles go, these things are cannons. They offer a lot of bang for buck when you put one up against a high priced Air Arms.
    Someone asked how loud they are? Loud. You can turn down pressure and it’s better, but if you think your going to sit in your back yard and plug squirrels and not piss off your neighbors, that’s not happening. Also, I don’t have the carbine and mine is heavy. I sure wouldn’t be packing this thing around in the forest looking for dinner. I’d take my SAM7R
    I got mine from these guys.
    http://www.straightshooters.com/eun-jin-sumatra-.22-500cc.html

      • It has a threaded barrel and I could put a suppressor on it, but you fall under the same laws when you talk any suppressor. I could buy a can that fits my SR22, my 15-22 and get an adapter to fit the 2500, but I don’t really care. I shoot those tree rats with a .177 Crossman. That 2500 is overkill.
        Some rifles do come with shrouded barrels which are legal as they can not be removed and used on a firearm. There is no practical method of installing a shroud in a air rifle. It would be better to drop a thousand bucks an an Air Arms that has a factory shrouded barrel.
        As far as pellets go, these things take about the heaviest pellet there is and they are made by Eun Jin They are 28.50 gr
        I researched air rifles heavy for a year before settling on the 2500.

        • There are dedicated airgun suppressors which can’t be used on a real firearm.

          These should be legal without paperwork (check with the ATF to be sure).

        • Oh yeah? Where? I’ve never seen them. Anyway, I just bought a 2014 Benjamin Marauder .22 Suppressed. Wow, is it quiet! Throwing that Crosman .177 in the garbage.

        • I buy my pellets from African Ordanance best I’ve come across for my .50 cal Dragon claw. Suppressors for air rifles aren’t illegal or regulated. Been trying to find one.

  7. Still waiting for something like the Girandoni air rifle, modernized of course.

    Why is it so hard for someone to make an airgun (semi auto or bolt action) with a 10-20 round tube mag using .308 bullets (the bullets themselves not the cartridge)? With a big enough air tank for 40-50 shots at subsonic velocities (600-900 fps).

    • There are specialty rifles that are 9mm and even 50 cal. Those can bring down big game like a wild bore. These air rifles are sold as hunting rifles and you can bring down medium size game with them.
      They are no toy. Some areas have strict firearm regulations and these are as close as you can get.

      • I was thinking .308 due to ease of finding bullets (maybe 6.5mm bullets for increased penetration). That and they require less air to get going compared to a non-spitzer bullet of greater diameter. The problem with the big bore ones (50 cal, etc) have the problem of having few shots per fill.

        .357 bullets could work (cast lead maybe?).

  8. Question, would this actually be legal/humane on deer? Seems very under powered compared to a 12 gauge slug or .30-30 round that are common for that game. At the other end it would seem the large round would destroy too much meat if you were hunting bunnies or other small game. I’m not a hunter, yet, so pardon my ignorance on the subject. Just curious as to what people in the know have to say.

    • I’m not a hunter either, but think about hunting with a bow. I doubt you would drop a buck in its tracks with this thing, but could you kill one? Yes and probably with more immediate results than a bow.

      Here in Delaware it is illegal to hunt with a centerfire rifle, but you can use a shotgun, handgun or black powder and the hunters take plenty. I would say hunting anything over 150lbs with that air gun would be quite sporting in the sense that it would demand great skill. Personally I would go for the cleaner, more reliable kill but for some people that is too easy.

    • In a world where people hunt using the 5.56 pop-gun round on deer (often successfully) this is really an issue of your skill level. And the ability to be brutally honest with yourself when you answer that question.

      That said, if you’re a good shot, here’s what you can take with a quality air rifle…

      http://www.quackenbushairguns.com/index.html

      The earliest high powered rifles were airguns – they’ve been around since at least 1580, with the Girandoni Repeater being the official Austrian Army rifle for about 20 years around 1800. Lewis and Clark carried at least one Girandoni.

    • The best feature of the .50 cal Dragon Claw is it’s set up to shoot not only pellets but also air bolts. They come with practice heads but can easily be switched with broad heads for hunting. Before I bought mine I watched quite a few videos of people hunting with them. That’s what sold me on it plus the price wasn’t horrific.

  9. Before you take the plunge with a PCP rifle (which is expensive when you include all the necessary paraphernalia) I suggest getting yourself a quality spring piston rifle to start out. Both are super accurate, cheap to shoot, relatively quiet and capable of taking small game. But a spring gun is self contained … all you need are pellets. If you love it, then go crazy with big bore/pre-charged pneumatics.

    Either way, adult air rifles are great for keeping you sharp when you cant get to the range. They are also a great addition for preppers who may need to take small game stealthily some day.
    I’m a Beeman/HW and Feinwerkbau man myself … both rifles and pistols. Check out the airgun scene .. you wont be disappointed.

    • Sorry for peppering this thread with questions. I was wondering how hold-sensitive a gas-piston gun is compared to a spring-piston.

      The gun in question is an IZH-61, I can get an gas-piston for it from Russia. I would like an trainer for competition shooting so diopter sights are a must. Thinking of shooting at 10-15 meters distance. Need it to cost less than 200$ and I am not a fan of single-shot rifles. Any recommendations.

      • @lolinski,

        I would say that, generally, spring piston guns are more demanding and more hold sensitive than pcps or single stroke pneumatics. However, I have some FWB spring guns that are recoilless and are as easy to shoot as any pneumatic gun. But they are pricey …

        I have no experience with the IZH-61 (which I see is spring piston) but I do have an IZH-46H single stroke pneumatic target pistol and that is an awesome, yet inexpensive gun. If there is a rifle version of the 46, I would be looking at that for 10-15 meters target work.

        • The IZH-61 is a fun, but pretty rudimentary, spring air rifle that retails for about $150.00. I have the single shot version, and it’s quite accurate for the price if you know how to hold a spring air. The trick is to support the fore end, but not to actually try to hold it still. They want to “bounce” when fired, and if held down, you will not get consistent results. Google up “artillery hold”. The IZH guns are pretty light weight, so this is more evident than it would be in a more substantial rifle.

      • You know what they say about opinions, they are like assholes, everyone’s got one.
        Spring pistons are fine, but take more practice and have wear points. There is a piston that slops around. They have drawbacks. Once you have one, you’ll wish you had a PCP and will be looking for one of those. Personally, I wouldn’t waste my time on a spring piston. The negative on PCPs is making sure you keep contaminants and moisture out and filling them. Since I don’t shoot mine a heck of a lot, I have a scuba tank and fill it off of that.
        PCPs are pretty much considered the Cadillac of air gunning.

        • PCPs are neat, but it’s hard to beat the self contained nature of a spring-air gun. No tanks, compressors, regulators, etc. If you’re taking off for an unscheduled, open ended walk-about, all you need is the gun and a tin of pellets and you’re good to go for as long as you want to stay lost. Good ones are accurate, powerful, consistent, and dependable.

      • I agree with leadbelly, another thing that I didn’t get an answer to was the gas-piston (AKA gas ram or nitro-piston). Will it make the gun less hold-sensitive (I sort of want to use it as a trainer for a real gun)? Since my main attraction to the IZH-61 is the simplicity of operation; insert magazine, pull back cocking lever, shoot.

        I ask this because I can get a gas piston from Russia. You can check out the site here: http://www.airgunstore.ru/

        Some guys from Canada bought some but didn’t mention anything regarding hold-sensitivity.

        I have checked out the Daisy/Avanti 953 (can’t afford the 853), while it seems good it is more complicated to operate (insert magazine, pull underlever, cock handle, shoot) and has a bad trigger (Not really in the mood to mod but can probably do it)

        *Hold-sensitivity= how sensitive the gun is regarding how you hold it, some will miss completely if not held correctly while others have more leeway.
        .

        • The gas piston is not going to affect the firing behavior much. You still have a piston lunging forward, and a bit of bounce in reaction. It will be a bit smoother, and you won’t ruin a mainspring when your stepson (ahem) leaves it cocked for two weeks.

          To achieve a true recoilless, vibration free action, you need a single stroke pneumatic (accurate, single shot only, low velocity), a pre-charged pneumatic (can be high power, multi-shot, very accurate – and very expensive), or a rail mounted barrel and action like the old Feinwerkebau guns (low velocity, single shot, very accurate, very expensive).

          If you try a heavy built side or under-barrel cocking spring air from RWS Diana or Weirauch, you will find that they are pretty easy to shoot well – very smooth, and their weight really damps things down. I’m pretty sure all are single shot, though. In fact, the IZH guns are about the only multi shot spring air guns I know of.

      • The cool thing about the pcp compared to spring is they don’t wear out or lose accuracy. Springs wear out and lose velocity after awhile affecting accuracy, where with an integrated pressure tank full of air that doesn’t happen. I’ll never go back to pump actions or spring loaded I’m hooked on my pre charged pneumatic air guns. My next is going to be the fully suppressed compact air texan.

  10. Check YouTube…there are plenty of videos of hogs being taken by air guns, 30 cal, with a single shot. I’d say that is plenty of power.

    • @ highvoltage There are. The world of Air gunning is almost as involved as regular firearms. It goes on and on and on concerning pre-charged vs spring piston and on and on. This thread can continue for years on air rifles.

  11. Seen the msrp hell just buy a real gun some even cheaper than that I’ll stick with my big boy toys

    • @ Ralph
      Not everyone can own firearms. Lots of people are disabled from that right. Even some areas prohibit air rifles. So if they want to hunt or have protection around the house, these are a viable solution to not being able to posses a firearm.

    • And some people might prefer to “stay below the radar.” But whatever gets you by, by all means.

  12. I don’t see the point, at that price. You can buy a couple of 30/30’s and still have money left over for ammo. Also the single shot feature keeps you from making a fallow up shot if needed.
    If you were hunting in an area where you could not use a firearm I suppose there might be good reason to lay out 7 C notes.
    Of course there will always be folks who want something different, and have the bucks to satisfy their needs.

  13. Well if you were from Korea, where you can’t have a powderburner, then these make a lot of sense.

    Personally I use a quiet, high quality, scoped Beeman springer for squirrels and nearby pests and then switch to powder for bigger and farther away. I like small, quiet, accurate airguns that I can legally shoot around or even inside my house (basement range) but I don’t see the point of the big bore stuff either. If anything, the big bore guns may invite more uninvited scrutiny that could make life more complicated for the more modest shooters like myself.

    Many of the quality PCP hunting airguns are repeaters, with semi-autos coming into development. Frankly the springers take more skill to shoot well, PCP guns are almost too accurate and easy.

  14. Sam Yang Dragon Claw sounds like something you order from Column A, with a side of Yang Chow Fried Rice and a large Dragon Bowl for two.

    Now I’m hungry.

  15. Interesting review. It seems I am hearing more and more about air rifles in this past year than I ever have in my life. With that price though, no magazine or repeating action available, only having as many as 10 shots at full power before it diminishes and an effectiveness of 2.5 MOA at 50 yards it seems less like a viable option and more like a work in progress or proof of concept.

    I do hope the technology improves, even if it becomes more costly. If the range, accuracy, and capacity or efficiency of the propellant can be increased and a repeating capability added then I would be interested in one for myself. As of now, it seems like a very expensive toy (not that some of my firearms aren’t necessarily, but they do a better job at anything this does).

  16. IMHO, given the lack of 22lr, the airgun industry should be exploiting the shortage and pushing .22 and .25 PSP air rifles for practice shooting. I have started to see them in the range. They should create some look-alike air rifles.

    • Checkout pyramidair, and then google up a couple of other distributors. There are hundreds of quality airguns these days, many even cycle like the real thing.

  17. Thing looks pretty badass for an air rifle, and I’m sure it’d do a number on varmints but $730 is Real Gun Money. Seeing as I don’t live in a country that frowns on the real thing (yet) and there are plenty of cheaper options for air rifles, I’ll pass.

  18. I own this rifle.. I cast a 280g bullet for it.. Went thru many trials & errors till I found the right rcbs mould.. I get around an inch to inch & a half ctc group at 100 yards.. Starts opening up a bit after 120 yards due to velcity variations from shot to shot.. Will pass thru a 2×6 still at 200 yards, so plenty of power, yet the holdover is too drastic for that range to realistically be feasible.. I love airgunning, so I put up with it’s constant (air) refill demands, many wont dig that aspect..I only get 3 shots per fill.. Not a rifle for a day of plinking, unless your addicted as I am.. But 3 shots will work if you can get that coyote to come in close enough!!

  19. I own the dragon claw and I think that it is a beautiful rifle. The only downside is that it is inaccurate with lead round balls.

    I’m only a beginner. I want to purchase a big bore rifle that has air tank as a butt stock. Something similar to the rifle pictured in the middle.
    http://www.glbarnes.com/pix304/justice.jpeg

    Can someone help me identify the rifle in the middle? What other rifle has this similar design?

  20. im sorry but i disagree with your findings on this rifle i believe its 5 star class because its its in a league of its own there are no other 50 cal you can buy except for evanix witch is twice is much and it shoots that speed is because the ammo i used power belt aerotip muzzleloaders 250 gr the jackets gives more fps just like pba ammo works great check out my hunt live action 50yard shot

    http://youtu.be/dU7Yimc9UQA

  21. I bought my Sam Yang 909 s 45 caliber and honestly it’s an awesome rifle powerful accurate and feels great everything it’s very well made the materials the wood the rifle it’s very loud but that’s something i don’t really the performance in the sam yang rifles are very very good i do recommend anyone looking for a powerful nice looking accurate rifle.

  22. hi
    thanks for your helping i need website of samyang company not venturi i need see all product of samyang company and detail if any body knows pls help me

  23. Does anyone who owns Sam Yang .50 Dragon Claw make a suppressor? That’s the only prob I have is the loud report. If so I’d like to ask how much you’d make me one for?

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