The Ruger 22/45 Lite for this review was provided by The Kentucky Gun Company.
Fashion-forward gunnies who simply adored the Ruger 22/45 Lite with its gold lamé upper and chic black lower will be depressed to know that the gold model has been replaced, at least temporarily, by an all black, bling-free, high testosterone, manly model. Well, why not? It’ll go with anything, including pearls. Personally, I liked the golden-toned 22/45 Lite. It didn’t look like every other modern pistol, which was a refreshing change. It didn’t look “scary.” While hard men may abjure even a touch of flash, I thought that nontraditional shooters might be tempted into the fold by a brightly-decorated pistol in a nontraditional color . . .
By nontraditional gun owners, I mean women and young shooters who might wish to dip their ballistic toe into the shooting sports by procuring an easy-to-manage, easy-to-feed pistol. The golden gun seemed right for them and right for the times, but I guess it wasn’t. It was actually a throwback.
The original golden gun was wielded by noted assassin, marksman and total fruitloops psychopath named Francisco Scaramanga, James Bond’s nemesis in “The Man with the Golden Gun.” Scaramanga’s single-shot 23k gold pistol was chambered in 4.2 mm – smaller than .17 caliber — making it the perfect mouse gun. Not for shooting at mice. For shooting by mice.
The modern Ruger 22/45 Lite isn’t made of gold, but in every other way it’s a winner. The Lite is chambered for a more realistic .22 LR. Its magazine holds ten to Scaramanga’s one. The barrel is threaded for a suppressor and the upper is drilled and tapped for the shooter’s choice of optics. These are huge improvements over the original golden popgun. To say nothing of the fact that the original was featured in the worst Bond movie of all time, bar none.
Born in the USA – in Bill Ruger’s Garage
The 22/45 Lite traces its lineage not to Francisco Scaramanga but to Japanese designer Kijirō Nambu, known far and wide as the John Moses Browning of Japan, and to noted American gun designer and inventor, Bill Ruger.
For reasons unknown to anyone but his family, friends and financial backers, Ruger fell in love with a GI bringback Type B “Baby” Nambu pistol. I guess he was fascinated with its bolt action, because his admiration could not possibly have been based on the appearance of the thing. The Nambu, with its protruding cocking piece and tapered barrel, looks more like an auto mechanic’s grease gun than a pistol. Maybe that’s why Ruger worked in his garage – for inspiration.
The bolt action of the Nambu yields one immediate advantage over a traditional slide arrangement. The sights never move, so target reacquisition is no issue. While the pistol does have a little hop, it works like an old hound dog. Once pointed in the right direction, it will stay pointed in the right direction.
Regardless of the wellspring of his fancy, Ruger attempted to clone the Nambu action, and went to work getting financial backing from Alexander Sturm to market his creation. As history shows, Ruger succeeded at both.
The young Sturm, Ruger & Co., Inc., made its ballistic bones in 1949 when it launched the Ruger Standard, a .22 target and plinker pistol derived from the bolt-action Nambu but styled to resemble the silhouette of the Pistole Parabellum 1908 – the famous German “Luger.” There was competition aplenty in the .22 target field from the likes of Colt, High Standard and other manufacturers of fine pistols, but the Ruger Standard became a major hit, and ultimately the most popular .22 target pistol ever made.
Since the introduction of the original Standard, Ruger’s designers and engineers continued to improve upon and expand its Nambu-ish line with the famous Marks I through III, with variations aplenty. The 22/45 pistol line, which was a more recent creation, owes much to the Marks, but the styling represents an important change in philosophy.
The original Ruger Standard was about as homely as its Japanese ancestor. Later Marks were nicer looking but still smacked of the original Standard design. Although the 22/45 utilizes the same Nambu-type cylindrical bolt as its Mark cousins – look Ma, no slide — it looks to the M1911, not the Luger, for its stylistic inspiration. Completing the circle of life, the M1911 was designed by John Moses Browning, known far and wide as the Kijirō Nambu of America.
The thinking behind the style modification is clear. Today’s Mark III Standard is clearly the round-eyed stepchild of the original Nambu, right down to its almost-circular trigger guard and tapered barrel. The Mark is the Madonna of pistols — a former style icon in dire need of a major facelift. In a market soon to be driven by new shooters, the old Marks needed a dash of newness to maintain their edge in a competitive marketplace.
Second, utilizing 1911-ish geometry allows shooters of Browning-san’s .45 to transition naturally to a plinker that points similarly to the M1911 but cost a lot less to shoot. The 22/45 line also incorporates polymer into its lower frame construction. Using polymer knocks off a few ounces of unnecessary weight. The Lite model does even better, reducing the basic 22/45’s weight from 32 ounces to a feathery 23 ounces empty and not much more than that loaded.
Checking Out the Black Lite
Hefting the Lite in its box, it was clear that this was no 40 oz. anchor of a target pistol. Even in its cardboard container with its included lock, scope base and two mags, it felt like a mere wisp.
Unboxing the Lite, I got wood. Grip panels, that is. Anyway, I think they’re wood. They’re some kind of laminate, handsome, nicely checkered and adorned with diamonds and Ruger’s heraldic phoenix. I noticed other classy touches, like the fluted barrel, the unobtrusive but clearly visible loaded chamber indicator and the knurled barrel cap covering the threads. Unlike the Nambu or the old Standard, the 22/45 Lite has near-perfect lines and proportions.
So it’s pretty. Which means exactly squat if it doesn’t shoot well. So I shot it.
I had four kinds of test ammo – CCI Standard Velocity, AR Tactical copper-plated round nose also made by CCI, a brick o’ Blazers and some Remington Thunderbolts. I had enough of each to give the pistol a good workout, but unfortunately, all were 40 gr. I laughed when I noticed the original $19.95 price sticker on a box of 525 Blazers, and recalled that I bought the box on sale for $16.95. Those were the days, my friends. Last October.
I didn’t attempt to shoot the Lite with a suppressor because they’re illegal in the Commonwealth. For a variety of reasons, I prefer not to spend the next five years in a Level Six Massachusetts correctional facility. Can you imagine — Massachusetts is so backward that the prisons don’t even have basic cable! Besides, the only guns in prison are Hi-Points, although I hear that there’s no ammo shortage in the joint.
I sighted in with the Blazers and immediately fell in deep hate with the Lite’s sights. The adjustable rear was fine and properly zeroed, but the front was hard to see. The sloped rear of the blade, the part facing me, was catching the light and reflecting it back in my direction, turning the black front blade an almost invisible gray. I could not duplicate this effect in direct or indirect sunlight, where the sights worked just fine, but I could replicate the problem with directional indoor lighting.
While the front sight was obscured, I could still intuit where the blade was supposed to be. So, I went at it from a measly 21 feet. Firing offhand, I was missing everything. Everything! It was the damn front sight. Again.
Much to my dismay, Ruger’s Vice President in Charge of Tightening Front Sights had forgotten to torque the single screw holding the sight in position, allowing the blade to slowly and imperceptibly wander with each shot. I didn’t notice that the pistol had a screw loose until a shot spun the sight completely sideways, turning the Lite into a half-assed made-in-the-USA Cornershot.
A screwdriver fixed the problem in seconds, so I went back to work, actually hitting paper. Despite my inability to see the front sight, I began to enjoy better and better accuracy. The five targets below are illustrative. The lower right target suffered five clean misses before the sight screw was tightened down. The next five, fired slowly and deliberately, were better. Shooting target #4, I was able to step up the pace as shooting the pistol became more instinctive. The last three targets were shot in descending numerical order. You can see the groups shrinking as I got better and the gun became broken-in.
The Lite lives up to its name – even when fully-loaded, it’s light, so it responds well to a one-handed presentation. Even without blading-up, the pistol proved to be a natural pointer and, with so little recoil, follow-up shots were easy. Here are five rapid fire targets, two from the weak side, two from the strong and the center target from a Weaver. Since I was basically point shooting, I think the results are good.
Outdoors in the frigid cold on a windy day, I was able to hit steel at 25 yards, tapping out a staccato tink, tink, tink with no problems. While it’s by no means an Olympic-class target pistol, the 22/45 Lite shoots straight.
Here’s a viddy of TTAG commentator Greg from Allston shooting the 22/45 Lite one-handed. Notice that there’s no recoil and little muzzle rise.
I fed the Lite about 700 rounds of my delicious ammo assortment. I shot more than the 500 that TTAG protocol requires simply because I was having a good time launching lead that cost pennies instead of dollars. Sometimes I loaded a magazine with a single flavor and sometimes I mixed and matched ammo like crazy. Sinatra-like, the pistol ate ‘em up and spit ‘em out. There were no failures of any kind, not even a misfire. What else is there to say about this pistol?
Likes and Dislikes
What didn’t I like about the Ruger 22/45 Lite was the front sight, which might have benefitted from a teeny dab of Loctite and a wee bit of texturizing to cut down on the reflection. Cocking the 22/45 requires very little force, but I disliked the small bolt ears that made the process as touchy as picking up a grain of rice with chopsticks. The cocking ears simply need a bit more flare to be handy or usable with gloves.
The trigger is not bad at all, but if it was pound lighter it would be sublime.
Most of all, I disliked needing a degree from MIT to reassemble this pistol. It field strips in two minutes, but when it’s time to put it back together it turns into a Rubik’s Cube and the reassembly instructions read like the WW2 Japanese Naval Code. I’m sure that reassembly gets easier with time, but you’d better have plenty of it.
My “likes” more than balance out my dislikes. Way more. The Ruger 22/45 Lite is a good looking straight shooter, flawlessly reliable, just plain fun and cheap to feed. As Rick Springfield once plaintively sang, “why can’t I find a woman like that?”
Conclusion
There are other sweet .22 plinkers out there, and the 22/45 Lite is more than competitive with all of them. The Lite can be suppressed where legal, fitted with optics, or tossed into a backpack just the way it is. It’s an all-around trail gun, plinker, trainer, sport shooter and reaper of small game and little pests. The Ruger 22/45 Lite would also do in a pinch as a viable self defense firearm for shooters who cannot manage the recoil of a more powerful handgun. Most of all, it’s just a gas.
SPECIFICATIONS:
Model: Roger 22/45 Lite
Caliber: .22 LR
Magazine capacity: 10 rounds
Materials: Zytel polymer grip frame, aluminum upper, laminate grip panels
Weight empty: 23 ounces
Barrel Length: 4.4″
Overall length: 8.5″
Sights: Fixed front, adjustable rear
Action: Semi-automatic, cylindrical bolt
Finish: Black anodyzed
Price: $499 MSRP
RATINGS (out of five stars):
Style * * * * *
With its sleek lines, faux bull-barrel and 1911-derived handle, the Ruger 22/45 Lite is a fine looking piece. The proportions are just right, the fluting adds a bit of visual appeal, and the laminate grip panels are nicely checkered and colored. Unlike some Ruger guns, the 22/45 Lite doesn’t look like a billboard stamped with a dozen warnings. The very visible Loaded Chamber Indicator blends into the lines of the pistol unobtrusively and the barrel stamp doesn’t nag you to read the manual.
Ergonomics (carry) * * * *
It’s a featherweight, and everyone who shot it commented on its unbearable lightness of being. It’s not a hideout gun, but with the proper holster it’s comfortable and easy to carry because it’s not too wide and not too heavy even when loaded.
Ergonomics (firing) * * * *
Grab a handful of stock and the pistol will practically point itself. The trigger is fine, if a touch heavy. It would benefit from a longer break-in or a gunsmith’s deft touch.
Reliability * * * * *
Flawless. It performed without a single hiccup.
Customize This * * *
Grip panels, sights and lasers are available, but the choices are somewhat limited.
OVERALL RATING * * * * 1/2
Bring the wife! Bring the kids! Bring the dog! Bring Grandma! The Ruger 22/45 Lite is an all-around pistol that’s fun for the whole family.
29.2%. This is new subscribers, not 29.2% more guys reading it at the barber shop?
Well, I can’t pretend to know how to evaluate someone’s operational experience as I don’t have any, but I can evaluate how good a teacher someone might be-
1. starting off criticizing your students, in a rant format, is not the most effective technique to address some legitimate concerns.
2. having to say it six different ways, overly wordy, rambling and confusing, even on the summary version, doesn’t inspire me as to how well you might instruct me on guns or tactics or anything else.
If you have something good to offer, just stick to teaching that. Getting in pissing contests on YouTube doesnt inspire me, and I dont see the “top tier trainers” are doing that.
In fact, the most experienced martial arts (and lately a couple of gun-fu) trainers I’ve met over the years have been humble, positive, to the point, and all suggested you can learn something from other trainers too, and weren’t threatened by it, as they too were constantly improving on their own art.
Just my two cents here…
Let’s just hope that Jack learned from his experience. Sure, he’s obtuse, but with luck he’s educable. I know a lot of experienced shooters who have had negligent discharges. You just get used to being around the firearms and you get, not exactly careless, but a little less attentive – and things happen. Like fender-benders while driving, which also have the potential to kill people.
Sounds like this guy was just poorly focused, and while I agree that he was a jack wagon, let’s hope he became a better gun owner and handler because of it, and that he thanks whatever god he worships every day that he didn’t kill or injure someone.
Ralph, great review. Thanks. Personally, I did not like the look of the gold and black LITE pistol. It seemed like an old beer commercial.
I just watched a brief video with a Ruger exec stating that prior to developing his first pistol Bill Ruger was in the manual drill manufacturing business. A picture was shown of one of his hand-held drills and it appeared to have the same basic geometry (especially the grip) as his Ruger MK1.
After spending much time holding and looking into the Ruger MK3s and 22/45 models I bought a Browning Buckmark Camper pistol 22cal. The Browning fit my hand better, would be easier to clear a FtF (never happened), and is a somewhat easier breakdown.
BTW, do you have any 22LR ammo you can ship out to me in Oregon? Thanks bud!
I bought the Threaded Barrel model last year. Yes, it’s heavier and the sights are fixed sights, but is functionally basically the same. The 22/45 was the first handgun I owned, and it turned out to be an excellent choice providing both me and my wife an excellent gun to practice with at the local range to build our skills. My wife took to it very quickly and can hit very small groups from varying distances.
We also both used the 22/45 to qualify for our South Carolina CWP licenses, and we both passed without any issue.
Since purchasing the 22/45, we’ve purchased a Ruger SR-22 pistol and two Sig Sauer P238 .380 pistols for carry. After shooting them all at the range, we concluded that while all of our guns are fun and easy to shoot, the 22/45 really is the most accurate.
Due to high ammo prices, we focus on the 22/45 and the SR-22, then we shoot the .380 sparingly.
if…..might…. subtle….. might…..eventually….. some…..
Good grief
Just like to point out that it is not Air Force One unless the President is on it. They are just flying on an incredibly expensive jet for no justifiable reason. Probably costing the government $20,000+ for the flight.
Great review! I like that it reads easy and entertaining while discussing the plus/minus features of the gun, Well written.
OK, my question, would you take the Browning Buckmark or the Ruger???
Browning Buckmark Camper for me. I found a limited edition 2012 model (1,100 made) that came with a 6.5″ stainless steel bull barrel, a fiber optic front sight, an adjustable rear site, a picany rail, the urx ergo grips, and one magazine. It also came with a high quality padded pistol case. I paid $399 for it all.
I’ve always liked Rugers. Have a couple in my safe now. Haven’t tried the SR22 so I won’t comment on it. But their other semi auto .22 pistols are a bear to keep clean because of the difficulties in re-assembly.
I’ve seen the scientific accuracy of this poll called into question already, but with a sample size of 15,000, it’s incredibly hard to dispute that law enforcement appears to swing VERY strongly in support of the individual right to keep and bear arms.
This is good stuff. I’d like to know more.
Ralph, I was under the impression that having a non-welded threaded barrel was illegal here, So I’m sure you pulled that pic off google.
He’s not crazy. He’s just a liar.
Wrong. And wrong.
He’s a Canadian travel writer. With a master’s degree in philosophy, and he also took a few architecture courses, so holds forth on that as well.
http://bloggermortis.com/interview-douglas-anthony-cooper-architecture-magazine/
Back in the ’90s he’d write stuff for /Wired/, when he was launching his early book(s), but his writing didn’t demonstrate the intellectual chops to hang out with techno geeks, engineers, etc.
We ought therefore not be surprised that he gets guns wrong, living as he does in the realm of fiction and mobility elitism. Not material reality. Or the lives and experiences of anybody outside his own stylishly buffed pate.
On second thought maybe that DOES qualify as “crazy” and “a liar.”
One could argue that the message of ignorance and fear, lies and propaganda published by the New York Daily News is far more damaging in the long term than any gunman. Therefore, the agency’s rights to free press and free speech should be infringed – nay, revoked – in the name of public safety and our universal right to live without fear of criminally destructive speech.
… To borrow a bit of gun-grabber logic, anyway. 🙂
The difference between Browning and Nambu was that Browning’s designs worked – or at least didn’t kill your neighbor when you sat down on them like Nambu’s Type 94 did.
He ain’t crazy, he EVIL. EVIL. Can you say “EVIL” with me, boys and girls? You call them “crazy” YOU’RE DOING THEM A FAVOR!!
People like that are a CANCER upon the planet, a MALIGNANCY upon decency and self-respect.
You KNOW what they DO to CANCER, DON’T YOU?
We seem to be just as hopelessly inefficient at getting rid of cancer as we are at getting rid of statist sh*theads like Cooper. But agreed. Evil.
In the twisted mind of a gun grabber, he believes he and those who share the same ideas to be more intelligent and virtuous than the opposition and masses. In that way, I think the gun grabbers are blinded by their own self-importance to realize the flaws in their beliefs.
doggie! doggiedoggiedoggie! wait, what happened?
US News & World Reports has archives of “Gun Control and Gun Rights” cartoons. Runs about 50-1 in favor of gun control; most of them portray toothless morons and beserk mass murderers. Then there’s this below. It’s beyond any compromise or logic; these are zealots using self-righteous emotion to whip themselves into a blood frenzy:
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/php/galleries/image.php/856/95/95.jpg
“Thumbs down” their videos into oblivion.
To be skeptical and resistant to the governments laws, regulations, taxes and studies is a time honored American tradition dating to the founding!
would be nice if the talking heads would read a little history
I am calling my Senators daily all week. This after numerous letters and e mails in the last few months. I am polite and to the point.
I am seeing more and more often articles that go something like this… and not just at the HuffPo!
“Blah blah guns, blah reduce guns, blah blah Wayne Lapierre is horrible, blah blah ban guns…..”
I think we should send Mr Lapierre a nice card, and maybe some chocolates or something, to let him know that at least some people don’t think he is personally related to the Devil or anything.
You had me at opposing Senator Feinstein!
Now, to join Gun Owners of California, and send me support…
Makes me proud to be a Nebraskan and member of NFOA.
Also I love Nebraska gun. Shop there all the time great little place
omg, Please.make.it.stop..
count me in.
“Douglas Anthony Cooper [above left]”
ZING!!! I did laugh out loud 🙂
I had one very similar to it and I have not had much success. I tried a minor disassembly which turned into a major disassembly thanks to my friend and now I have one in many SMALL pieces. I will stick with my SIG P220 which is much easier to clean, but costs more for ammo.
This is nice, and surprising, to see. But it will have no impact on those pushing disarmament legislation. Their goal isn’t a reduction in crime. It’s a reduction in the raw numbers of armed civilians. Facts aren’t needed for that argument. Just emotions. And unfortunately emotions are a more effective argument with most people. As we have, and will continue to see.
The man is simply psychotic. Would he call a 100 pound woman defending herself against a 200 pound man a wuss if she used a gun? Or does he require she spend 20 years learning martial arts so she’d have a fighting chance in such a situation.
They are getting more and more desperate.
“And another one’s gone, and another one’s gone…”
Last one out of Connecticut and Colorado, turn off the lights! Where you cough cough texas cough Moving too?
Boy, I’m happy this wasn’t foreseeable. Oh wait, the same day as the Newtown shooting there was a mass stabbing in China….
Well you know hindsight… er foresight, is not for…see..able?
Hmm I’m confused. Oh wait. Gun Free Zone. Thank goodness nothing bad happens there. Those three words are all I need to sleep tight at night.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eatQSKaUIQQ
You can be the sheep or you can be the Kangal Dog….close to 300 lbs full grown males
Hard to see, but whatever you do don’t cower like the sheep.
An amazing gun. This thing is dead-nuts accurate the second it comes out of the box, and any adjustments that are desired can be quickly dialed in with the target sights. Watched a couple reviews on this piece, including a link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irlvixQVBrg
Great review. Had the 22/45 lite fitted to my MKIII standard by Family Firearms out of Florida. Not only did the steel frame MKIII balance well, I am partial to the original steel frame. With a 2.5 lb. pull and great balance, my MKIII Lite is the proverbial silk purse. This model should be available through Ruger. With the availability of bore snakes I don’t feel the need to pull this gun apart. There is a kit out there that replaces the mainspring making the takedown just easy! Looking forward to more reviews.
Bought one of these about a year ago and not much for writing but I’m so pleased with mine I can’t help but add my two cents. As to the question of Ruger 22/45 vs Browning Buckmark, to each his own – I’ve fired both and love them both for mostly the same reasons but I chose the Ruger. Both have triggers that leave something to be desired but are decent and have aftermarket upgrade options available, both are fairly accurate for the price once you break them in, and both are relatively reliable for a .22 semi auto.
The sights on the 22/45 are weak, but the first thing I did was went and got some inexpensive but much more visible aftermarket fiber optic sights. i forget the brand but they catch the eye much better in any light condition. The ones that come with it are cheapo, and while I’ve heard folks have success texturing or dotting the front sight with enamel and adding blue thread-locker, mine was also loose when it arrived and just begged to be replaced. It’s almost like they knew it was going to get replaced immediately and wanted to make it easier to remove but I admit that it was a red flag.
The second thing I did was set up an NFA gun trust with the help of a lawyer in Dallas – Bass Law Firm, that I was referred to by the guys at Silencer Shop here in Austin, TX, and bought a SilencerCo Warlock II.
Finally, after visualizing the perfect zombie squirrel reaper I was assembling, I did the only natural thing that was left to do, which was to put my hogue grip back on my 1911 and put the Crimson Trace laser grip I had on it onto the 22/45. Fit like OJ’s glove, but like other 1911 grips, all I had to do was remove a little material from the upper left side panel to make way for the odd toy-like bolt stop on the Ruger.
I will say that it’s too light for the heavy trigger for a marksman of as limited skill as me unless I’m unusually focused, two handed or better yet, bracing my hand on something. The gun can deliver tight groups with good ammo but if you have even a moderately shaky hand that is helped by a heavy frame, the Lite is not going to do you any favors. From a rest of any kind it’s deadly, but for me, off-hand, I needed the laser to see just how bad my stability was and to correct it. I still have the sights on there and alternate between them and the laser depending on range and how determined I am. It’s a .22 after all.
A government shutdown and 8 months later, my suppressor was ready to pick up. My wife knew I was going to be an intolerable boor for a while. She was right – I was obsessed. What followed was x-rated and has been self-censored. It is too much fun to plink with a report that doesn’t hurt your ears and which could pass for an air tool or air gun. Plus it just looks creepy, without being too aggressive or ostentatious looking, which is what I was going for. The gold predecessor just wouldn’t look right with this setup. Interesting looking I suppose, but even my wife said I should shop around until I found one of the “more manly looking ones”.
At 3 oz., it hardly adds to the weight and fully loaded, still feels like the weight of a few spare 1911 mags. It balances the Lite perfectly, adding the extra weight down the barrel end where it’s most lacking. A heavier suppressor would probably be fine too, but I think it was just enough to balance against the loaded mag and bolt in the middle/rear, which are really the only parts of the base gun with any weight to it. I may replace the trigger then play with some coins or small washers taped under the barrel to find the perfect weight / balance for target shooting.
I’ve fed CCI high velocity through it unsuppressed, tons of Remington gold whatever, some Federal, CCI Green Tag and Standard Velocity, Gemtech Subsonic (my fave, although it’s made by CCi and the specs are nearly identical, so not worth paying a ridiculous premium for of you can find CCI), as well as some Norma Tac-22s. The latter is the loudest but still acceptable and subsonic in TX climate. Obviously there’s virtually no recoil but if you limp wrist it you might feel more than of you did so with a bull barrel. I don’t shoot limp wristed so who cares.
Only issues were with the Remington and Federal – jams with the wobbly, soft bullets and dirty dirty dirty, especially with the suppressor. The suppressor creates back-pressure so any load is going to dirty up your gun faster, and I agree this thing is a pain to strip, clean and especially reassemble. Point Browning, but where there’s a will, there’s a way. My point is that if you buy the Ruger and especially if you add a suppressor, don’t skimp on the ammo. 22 is dirty almost no matter what, but each time you clean this gun you’ll wonder if you could have waited till next time. Just sayin’.
I like the 22/45’s looks and control placement better than the Browning because while you’ll never mistake it for a 1911, it at least has approximately the same sized grip, plenty of grip replacement options, and similar controls. I’d like to see some aftermarket replacement bolt stops and safeties or changes in later generations that make them feel like they belong on a real firearm.
I do like the pull-back bolt and kind of appreciate the added safety of a non-slingshot action on a rim fire pistol, though I’ve seen a replacement kit that essentially spring loads the bolt catch so you can sling a round in from a locked open bolt just by pulling and releasing, like most guns. The Buckmark to me is too Buck Rogers looking, but less so than the traditional Ruger Mark with the tapered barrel and back-slanting grip. Both fine guns but the 22/45 just made too much sense for too many reasons, and I find them to be of comparable accuracy.
If you want a target gun or a typical small game hunter that you don’t plan to climb Everest with, and/or you have a shaky hand, look at one of the full weight 22/45, Mark III or Buckmarks with a heavier, longer barrel and associated longer sight radius and stability. If you want a suppressed .22 squirrel assassin that can host your 1911 Crimson Trace and a suppressor and which weighs almost nothing, I encourage you to try the 22/45 Lite. For the few drawbacks, I truly love mine, and so do folks who come plinking with me. I may be replacing the trigger eventually but otherwise consider it a completed masterpiece. Even when I have to clean it.
Check out Hickock45’s review of a suppressed threaded barrel (not the lite but he doesn’t appear to be fatigued by its weight). This guy cracks me up, but this video definitely made me want one of these even more when I was first contemplating it. His enthusiasm is contagious. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtenI4zMwWM&sns=em
Get the Majestic Arms speed strip kit that replaces the bolt stop pin with a two-piece pin that you simply unscrew and pull out of the top! So simple; no more cleaning headaches!!! Shot the pistol for 3 years before I found this fix, and have enjoyed cleaning it much more in the past two years,
This gun sucks balls. Over engineered garbage top say the least. 100 rds out of the box. 1 cleaning and never worked again. Gravity fed striker that never falls fully into place. Lock outs that prevent repairs. For Gods sake how many times do you need to put in the mag to reassemble. The gun is a mess and now a 300 dollar paperweight.
You have been bitten by the Ruger assembly curse.. . This is not an easy gun to reassemble but if you watch a few U tube videos and have patience and practice a little bit it is easy. I can field strip and assemble one in 30 sec… This is a great gun- don’t give up on it.. If you do I’ll give you $100 for it.
This gun is junk. The first thing that I noticed is the mag well is not solid but has plastic fins to guide the mag. If you do not put the mag in just right it binds up. Second the mag fits too tight and I have to literally hit the bottom of the mag to make it snap into place. When I push the mag button it does not fall free but rather bumps the mag out about 1/4 inch, and you have to grab the mag with a finger nail to bring it out. JUNK. Next the less than desirable design of the Mark 2 take down does not work well with a plastic frame. Taking this gun down and putting it back together can be very trying. Look to get a cut finger and thumb trying to make all the parts fit right. Hammer must be down to take out the rear spring and cocked to put in and take out the bolt group. I am sure once you know how you can do it in 5 min or so but getting there is a pain in the arse. You have to really pay attention to where the hammer rod is or you get it together and its not going to have tension.
For the price this is way too much money for such a poor design. I would save my money and buy something else. I took it that Ruger was just going to put out a superior gun. They missed on this one. IMO. I carry every day an SR9C and have several Rugers all which I love, this on is JUNK.
I bought one a few weeks ago and I like it as much as the original reviewer. I had forgotten how much fun it is to shoot a .22 pistol but I look forward to range sessions with this one as much as any other gun. I’m waiting on the stamp for my .22 can and can’t wait.
Takedown is an odd process but 5 minutes is a bit of an exaggeration unless you’re taking out all of the internals. But the standard field strip is a 15 second operation and the same to put it back together once you know the process. I’ll be glad to buy someone’s “junk” or “paperweight” for $100, maybe even $150 if I’m in a good mood. I wouldn’t mind a spare or two for range trips with new shooters.
I bought a Ruger 22 45 lite and my front sight did the same as this guys so i got out the blue lok tite and did all the screws,the guts for the loaded chamber indicator fell out and are lost so the rest is coming out when i go in to fix the trigger and take out the wont shoot unless the clips in feature.I put a tactical solutions cascade silencer on mine and the groups tightened up,put on a Burris mini red dot reflex sight and groups tightened up more,went to CCI standard velocity ammo with 40 gn lead bullet and groups shrank even more.The gun now shoots the primers out of shotgun shells with about a 80% success rate so all i need now is a good trigger and and its as good as it can get.
I didn’t take the time to read all of the posts so excuse me if someone else has already said this but all this bashing because they took a Govn’t contract. Who do you think should be making our weapons systems the Chinese? Ya let’s give the contract to Norinco! Would that make you all feel better?
I have a (Talo special?) MKIII 4.5″ bbl w/ Crimson Trace in the Hunter model, all from Ruger, no aftermarket add-ons, and the trigger is same as what I had on a MKII Competition Target model. If the 22/45 LITE came with that trigger and better sights I’d buy it. BTW, is the threaded barrel necessary for “tensioning” the barrel like on guns with carbon fiber around steel liner? My hunter model does everything well, just a little too heavy for my torn shoulder muscles.