By de facto
Good afternoon fellow citizen, allow me to introduce myself. I’m your local representative for the Committee of Public Safety, or CPS, and I am committed to creating a safe environment for all members of our community. In light of that, I’m here to talk about your guns. I’ve received reports from concerned citizens indicating that you have an extensive gun collection. As much as I respect the Second Amendment, I need you to turn in your “sporting rifles” . . .
Our government can only allow private ownership of guns used for legitimate sporting purposes – not weapons of mass murder. It’s too dangerous for these weapons to be out there. You can appreciate that, can’t you? Besides, if you work with us and voluntarily turn in your military grade weapons, you’ll be able to keep your hunting rifles and shotguns. After all, the CPS respects the spirit of the Second Amendment and America’s great hunting tradition.
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Hello again fellow citizen. Just wanted to stop in and thank you for your willingness to embrace our common sense reforms. Thanks to your help, we’ve substantially reduced the chance of a military grade weapon being used for a mass shooting.
Unfortunately, we’re far from safe. Military Rifles may be off the streets and out of the reach of potential spree shooters, but statistics show that pistols are still the weapon of choice for criminal acts. Pistols by far account for the most individual murders. While it is acknowledged that handguns are included in the great sporting and hunting tradition of the 2nd amendment (and we respect that) does it really include semi automatic pistols designed for military use and able to accept high capacity magazines? The majority of Americans support this anti-crime measure, and we’re sure it will have a tremendous impact in crime prevention.
We also need you to turn in any shotguns that use a magazine. After the navy yard incident, we can’t be too careful. A double barreled shotgun should be more than enough for home defense. You’re only supposed to be trying to scare intruders off anyway.
Thanks again citizen, we appreciate you trying so hard to understand our point of view and your commitment to the safety of our community and our children. Have a safe hunting season!
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Good evening sir; my title has changed since my last visit. I’m now part of the violence and pre-crime division of CPS. I’m here to talk about your hunting arms. Recent legislation has defined semi-automatics and bolt actions as weapons of destruction. Most mass shootings have used semiautomatics, and we no longer recognize the right of any individual to own any such arms. As for bolt actions, most of them are very similar to military weapons that were used in various wars during the 20th century. Those weapons have caused millions of deaths, and numerous assassinations. You must agree these represent too great a danger for us to leave them in the hands of ordinary citizens. Besides, it’s not really fair to the animals for you to use such powerful long range weapons. It’s not really in the great hunting and sporting tradition of the Second Amendment.
You can surrender them now or surrender them when the weapons disposal team makes their inspection in a week or two. Additionally, you are expected to take a Mental Health Exam. As part of a violence prevention measure anyone who owns or has owned firearms is being asked to see a state psychiatrist; for their own safety. Can’t be too careful.
You have a nice evening, I’ll be checking in every now and then.
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Good morning. Sorry about your front door-the higher ups decided surprise would be the best way to avoid violence during this transition. Since you and I go way back, I wanted to be here to personally break the news to you. It’s 3AM and we have more stops to make, so I’ll keep this brief.
In a prior visit I specified that military grade weapons needed to be turned in. Our registration records show that you have Civil and Revolutionary War era military grade weapons, as well as “antiques” – a “western style” lever action rifle, shotgun and revolver. You have ignored repeated requests to surrender them, citing your “right” to own them.
Unfortunately, just after midnight your representatives voted to classify all firearms as weapons of Terror and Destruction. Ownership of any such items is a class A Felony. In addition, the Center for Psychiatric Rehabilitation has declared anyone who owns weapons of terror and destruction as mentally unbalanced, representing a clear and present danger to the community.
I’m going to ask you to quietly follow me and these fine gentlemen from the State Rehabilitation Ward. In a few years, we hope you’ll be ready to rejoin society.
I’m sorry it had to be this way.
I remain your humble servant, committed to the cause of Public Safety.
Boom. You can have it lead first.
28 weeks later……
“Premier Clinton III has appointed Comrade De Facto to the high honor of Education Comissar.After twenty six years of dilligent service in the Ministry of Public Safety ,before it was reformed after the cultural revolution, he knows the risks modern society poses to our next generation.De Factos duties in the Education Ministry will ensure every young Comrade knows the evils of capitalism and firearms ownership.
For Statecom Media, Winston Trotsky.”
Love this:
“pre-crime division”
Say this in your best Hal 9000 voice:
“I remain your humble servant, committed to the cause of Public Safety”
In a moment of desperation, many, MANY, years ago I interviewed (walked out before it ended) for a position as a “pre-grief counselor” for a pre-paid funeral service. To this day, any time I hear “pre-” anything, I’m pretty sure I’m being lied to.
Sorry to burst the “hope” bubble, but Pandora’s box is wide open and we’re well down that rabbit hole.
Not for years, but for well over a decade as “big data” became cheaper and cheaper, the NSA (as well as the rest of the alphabet-soups) have been developing better and better predictive algorithms. When Target knows that you’re pregnant before you do, you can bet that Fedzilla is using better tools and the entirety of the data ocean to search for “terrorists”.
“Carnivore” was 14 years ago. Narus, whose Insight platform will most assuredly flag and tag this post, has been out in the cyber world for almost a decade now. ‘Predictive’ algos are the goals of all algo development. Target wants to figure your clothes needs, the power company routes and generates according to predictive software, smart traffic grids time stop lights, your car machine learns your driving style and sets computer parameters for your ECM. Guess what the government wants to predict?
The tech leap happened many years ago, and the NSA now sees absolutely every packet on the web. And cellphone. And landline. With Bluffdale UT up and running, it will also be able to store and process that data in one place. Using algos to predict where crime will happen is already in use in LA and London. Nobody even blinked. The mesh on the net is still wide enough for most folks to go about their business unmolested. But it shrinks every day.
“Remember good citizen when we ginned you up with the maguffin of terrorism? We came to the rescue with security kabuki theater. We do appreciate your earlier help in supporting the State data mining machine. Patriot Act? We could have called it Fatherland Security and they would have lapped it up. I mean, had they not slept through history class, they would have known that never has a security apparatus of this scope not eventually been used against it’s people – ever. But enough small talk. We have determined from your site visit history, the nature of the sites you linger and post on, your shopping habits, not to mention the people you speak with on the phone and the transcripts of those calls, your age, sex, and hair color, we need you to come with us. It’s for your own safety.
No tinfoil required, they do this right in public and announce it at press conferences. Well, everything save where it’s actually all leading of course.
We do what we must, because we can.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6ljFaKRTrI
Too accurate. Except they should be apologizing for your dog, which was just shot, not the front door.
KMFA
Robert Seddon
Mineral, Va
One of the comments on the article particularly outlines the mental disconnect that occurs with gun regulation supporters:
“I live in a country where there are strict laws governing weapons ownership yet still we have shootings. Even here there are no politicians willing to impose further limitations. I personally see no place for weapons in suburbia and welcome restrictions on type availability. The argument guns don’t kill holds merit; however bullets do and that’s where I see scope for controlling legislation.”
So, this person lives somewhere where guns are regulated, and yet there are still shootings.
I thought as I read his comment that he would admit that regulation of arms, like regulation of drugs, does not stop illegal use. Nope. His answer is simply to state that he supports more regulation, even though it doesn’t seem to have its intended effect whatsoever.
Bizarre.
Again, if the politicians in Philly and most major US cities were not busy obfuscating the real issue, which is “Why is the city failing its citizens on so many levels?”, then the citizenry and the media might actually focus on the politicians and their incompetence to run the city efficiently and their only real competence, which is getting re-elected at the expense of the overall welfare of the city.
midwayusa has 420 rounds of 5.56 for $219.99. it comes in a ammo can and has 10 stripper clips included. seems reasonable if you want 5.56
Best review of this weapons system yet. If you can actually afford it, avoid it. Not that civilian sales will even be happening on any level. I imagine anyone at a range with one of these will just be a spectacle and have others wanting to try iy. I tend to get that with my DE .50ae’s but I have to actually aim myself to hit the target and I get very few takers willing to shoot them.
Garbage in garbage out.
Sportsman’s Guide has 500 rounds of Wolf .223 for $160. You said cheapest…
Winner winner chicken dinner
I love my collection on the walls where I can have instant access! Retired, I am home at least 23.5/7/365!
Given that we have no shortage of antis who think gun ownership is a manifestation of a mental disorder, I don’t have too much trouble envisioning the end game he portrays.
Road Warrior, or Terminator?
I wonder where those guys on Jetskis in Waterworld got their gasoline? Then again, Waterworld is possibly the worst movie ever produced, ever.
This is pretty much has happened in England; (it is against the law to carry any object with the intent to use it for self-defense, a belt with a big buckle,if it was to be used as a flail, is illegal, for example)our belief that the right to KABA came originally from our English roots. It was part of English tradition for the people to have the right to bear arms and to be trained in common infantry weapons; long bows in particular, evolving to looking at firearms in the same way.
The statists want America to be perverted the way they perverted England.
This is kinda the news I’ve been waiting to hear. So what do you think, Nick? Haul ass and get my paperwork in now, or do you think I can wait til after X-Mas to start my can purchase?
Winner.
Oh, and comrade, I regret to tell you that the wicked firearms in my possession met with a tragic accident on recent fishing trip…
Would love to see more frequent posts regarding the proposed rule changes at the ATF. Only 2400 comments so far on this, doesn’t seem like nearly enough to me.
Those 2,400 comments are not painting a rosy picture, either.
The chief complaint (as is mine as well) is that often times it’s departmental policy for Sheriffs not to approve any Form 4s. Period./i> That is essentially a de-facto ban on NFA items. There has supposedly been a movement to get rid of the CLEO signature for some years now.
The BATFE would rather close the NFA registry wholesale before they even so much as giving up a single inch on that front.
It’s a rogue and unconstitutional government agency that has been abusing powers not even legally delegated to it by Congress to abuse, intimidate, and even maim and murder innocent citizens for decades, and needs to be abolished. It was not established to be, has never been, nor will it ever be a champion of <any of our natural, civil, and Constitutionally-affirmed and protected civil rights. It was specifically created to take away those rights in every way it can get away with.
I think the low comment count is reflective of the fact that the vast majority of gun owners don’t care about NFA items. That’s not to say that many gun owners wouldn’t love to have a suppressor or select-fire toy or SBR, just that most don’t want to deal with the hassle. In that sense, the NFA registry is working exactly as designed: it’s intended to discourage ownership of these items, and it’s doing that. So a rules change regarding how NFA trusts are set up and administered doesn’t resonate with most gun owners – they’ve already written off the whole ridiculous process as a colossal pain in the ass (which it is).
I had one in 9mm. I was given the gun when someone in my family bought one, never used it even once and then just gave it to me.
I pretty much hated everything about it. The DA trigger pull was beyond stupid. The safety on the slide…..WTF?????
Admittedly I think the Glock 17 is the greatest all around (performance, price, after market support, dependability) semi-auto pistol every made. I would rather use a rock than the PX4.
I sold it and bought another Glock with the money.
You can’t transfer your own silencer into your own trust, could someone else in your trust do so?
A weak and cowardly people can be and will be disarmed. There is no exception to this rule.
There is no benefit to government, a self serving entity that has a life and goals of its own, for individuals to own firearms. Case closed.
You don’t NEED it.
You don’t NEED a car either, and yet even with more death caused by automobiles you don’t see “Moms Demanding Action”
In a free society, rights are not delimited by needs. Technically, the people confined to pods in The Matrix were having all their needs met.
They won’t have enough bodies to fill enough uniforms to do it. When they realize they literally don’t have the man-power, let alone the logistics for such a feat, I can only imagine what they’ll try to do out of shear desperation as the walls close in on them.
The Bill of Rights can be summed up as a collection of “Doomsday Provisions”: you don’t “need” them until the government tries to violate them, let alone some mealy-mouthed schmuck fresh out lock-up after being arrested for the 35TH FUCKING TIME.
Sorry to hear your story. I’m in IL and we have one of members going through the same thing. Although they are different courts, he is or already did file suit against the state of IL. Hopefully it will be resolved on a national basis in the next couple years. Good luck with your case.
Here is the link to the IL situation:
http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=42110&hl=
These same people don’t need their low mileage battleship sized SUV’s, or their vacations, or their wall sized TV’s etc etc etc. More people are killed every year by cars than by guns and theirs not ond constitutional right even hinting that they have a right to own them. And the author is wrong. The anti gun people are criminally stupid and can even talk rationally. The female office manager where I used to work was raving about how cruel bush was with gitmo violating the terrorists Geneva convention rights and how the buildings didn’t even have walls to protect them from the cold. I asked her what rights because the Geneva Convention didn’t cover them and if she was aware it doesn’t get cold in the Caribbean. She just started throwing things at me and just behaving irrationally. Which has been the reaction I get from most of the liberally insane.
Pretty far out thoughts from Dreyfus. Wasn’t expecting such craziness.
Government or NRA – i’ll hold on to my own gun, thanks.
This may affect some people’s decision on what to support. The APA (American Psychological Association) estimates that 46% of Americans will suffer from a DSM-V diagnosable mental illness at some point in their lives. The “mental health” dodge is a dangerous one, my friends, think long and hard before you try to shift the responsibility that way. Or at video games, or anything else. Fight the good fight, we are winning already.
He is a WW2 veteran who took up weapon designing while recuperating from injuries from a tank battle in 1943.
A man who has seen more than most.
I own the Kahr PM9 . These Pistols are right next to Gold. Five years ago I bought it New for 519.00 @ our local large sporting good store. Now they are 750.00 ? uh… As for the the PM9 it is an excellent pistol plus an excellent carry pistol. Sights are the best of the many handguns i own. It goes bang on any Brass load i have ran thru it. I would not hesitate to buy the CM9. Less detail means less time means less money ! Kahr will never build a bad firearm. Before listening to any gun salesman check Kahr firearms company out throughly. I did before i made the purchase.
Although many of you make excellent points, in the end you can call my rifle whatever you want….. It dosent matter where it got its origins from, or if the military currently uses a very similar select fire version of it, or if some idiot committed a horrible act against innocent people with it. The 2nd Ammendment protects me from having to explain why I choose to own a AR-15 or explain why I need a magazine that holds 30 rounds. I own it because I want to and that’s all you need to know. If some mentally unstable guy purposly drove his car at 55 mph through a group of children would politicians try to pass laws making it so that you can only legally own a car that can travel at a max speed of 35 mph? Someone once said “if you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns.” and even if you could get rid of every gun in America, someone wanting to cause harm to others can turn almost any object into a deadly weapon.
OFWG? Maybe, but the most hated, feared and vilified group today in the liberal/progressive lexicon is the WHMGOCAP; White Heterosexual Male Gun Owning Christian American Patriot
So we’re talking carry gun. What’s a safety?
As a range item having unnecessary and odd controls added don’t really help anyone.
I have had my Colt/Walther m4 for 1 year. 5 stars, all the way. Not a single issue, and have used CCI mini-mags, Thunderbolts, and just about anything else, and never a single misfire. Don’t listen to the detractors. Would not give this up for 2 10/22’s. Have removed the carry handle, and added Red Dot sights, with laser, and flip up iron sights. Incredible gun, and I am a gun collector. Have 5 – 30 rd mags, and can shoot to my hearts desire. Well worth every penny.
I don’t think I’d be exchanging clever bon mots in the middle of a robbery. That store guy may have a surfeit of guts, but he has a dearth of brains.