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While it won’t replace armed teachers, options are a good thing. Just sayin..
Only as cover to fire from behind.
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A couple layers of fiber-reinforced cement board under the drywall on each side and a fire-rated plaster-filled steel door with a big chunky deadbolt will do even better.
Anyone know of any research or products intended for residential buildings to reduce wall penetration? Might come in handy for any HD firearm enthusiasts who’re remodeling.
At best it would buy you another 15 seconds, until the guy calmly walks up and caps you point blank.
I guess if they make EVERY desk top out of it then they might have a fighting chance of using it… but typically the door to a classroom is near the front (which is also where the white/chalk board are) separating the students from that “protective board” 🙁
We must have really gone backward in desk technology. Back when I was a kid, those were rated for nuclear attack. All you had to do was duck and cover.
Well, it’s a step in in the right direction. Stick a view window in it and they can see to return fire with guns they’ll be issued, right? Right? Wait…what?
“Flying Tsarnaev Brothers”
Oh.
another monitor clean up on aisle two
The ONLY thing that makes sense is to let teachers who are willing to arm themselves do just that.
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I just don’t see how that would stop an aggressive attack
Might help. What would work better is exploring solutions to keeping mass murder kooks out of schools. Like, I don’t know, having armed adults at the school.
That’s it, grabbers now have a new moniker to me. Rube Goldbergs.
Family Circus creator Bill Keane is rolling over in his grave. He loved freedom. Apparently those in charge of his estate do not. Good Lord know they love public money, though, as they are currently pleading for gobs of public money in Paradise Valley, AZ, for the public to pay for a bronze in Bill’s honor. They certainly don’t care about their dad enough to pay for it themselves.
Sheesh…
Alrighty folks, I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again:
If you find yourself in a gun-free death zone and an active shooter comes along with devilish-intentions: THROW STUFF!
That that bullet-proof (and probably hefty…) whiteboard, flip it sideways, and fling it like a frisbee. Grab your laptop, grab your iPads, throw them, grab your backpacks, grab your books, grab your purses, grab anything that isn’t bolted down to the ground, and throw it.
If you’re in the grocery store, and someone starts shooting, grab a tin can from your cart or off the shelf, and throw it! Pick up a wine glass and throw it: Cut glass hurts! And keep throwing things until a good guy with a gun shows up! Ram the S.O.B with carts!
If you’re in a parking lot, run him over with your car. If you’re in a library use the books and the desktop computers in front of you! Shove a bookcase down on the S.O.B.!
If you’re on a beach, pick up rocks or driftwood, and throw them in the S.O.B.’s direction.
You’d be surprised how many (fairly dangerous) weapons are sitting around you right now.
Think about this: How many shots do YOU think you could get off with all the objects sitting around you right right flying towards your head/chest? How accurate do you think your shots will be in that situation if half a dozen purses, iphones, ipads, laptops, books, tin cans came heading your way?
I’d rather have the bad guy miss a shot, as that’s one less shot that’ll hit me, and another innocent bystander.
If you’re caught with your pants down in a gun-free death zone, just keep your cool, and start throwing things. That’s what we should be teaching our kids, and that’s what I was taught.
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Yep. This is definitely in my plan, and I’m teaching my kids, too.
The natural reflex is to either duck or put up a hand to deflect or catch whatever has been thrown at you. If you can’t throw lead at the bad guy, you darn well better throw *something*. Even if it only gains you one second, that’s a lot better than none — it might be enough to find cover, escape, or attack.
Doesn’t seem like a very smart guy. I mean – he kills his girl friend – who do you think the police is going to be focused on in her murder? I don’t know – perhaps the people close to the victim?
Regardless, it is people’s responsibility to safeguard their freedom and their personal safety. It is not the government’s responsibility to “take care of us.”
The victims that died perished because they took the risk of not being prepared and not being ready for this circumstance. Even if the guy that saw the murders had a gun in his home (not even on his person) he may be alive today.
Can they be strapped to your arms and legs? Both are home to major arteries. if they had 2 holes about 3 inches apart you could protect your head as well, provided they came with a strap.
The dumbest idea since ” Just go out on the front porch and fire 2 blasts. Get a shotgun, get a shotgun!.”
Anything but self protection.
I can predict with complete confidence now that fireworks will *never* be legalized here in MA…
The local radio station calls them speedbump and flashbang.
They used fireworks? Well, what we need then is a high capacity clip ban or more handgun fees and background checks to prevent the murder of innocent children. It’s the only reasonable thing to do.
Maybe they could beat an assailant to death with it.
Nice. If only Texas had it – so Armed forces who carry firearms to defend this country can walk the rural roads with their sons with open carry and not be harassed by officers and charged with “rudely displaying a firearm.”
After all, what are we trying to say if we can ship our youth to other countries to be shot at but not allow them to carry weapons on their own soil.
I didn’t even notice the handgun until I saw your comment. Either my situational awareness is poor or it’s so good that I subconsciously determined that a girl walking a beagle with a holstered openly carried weapon is not a threat.
Lets face it you weren’t looking that low on that girl to notice the gun. 🙂
Thanks
Robert
Until the Supreme Court acknowledges that Firearms, Ammunition, & the Components to make them are all a singular system covered by the term ARMS, and thus protected under the 2nd Amendment, we will continue to have to fight these kinds of end runs.
It isn’t perfect, but at least it’s a law moving towards freedom and not away from it. We are “shall issue” and honestly I don’t see any problem with having to get a license for CHCL if it is shall issue. Im happy to live in Arkansas.
The real purpose of this bill is the same as the failed background checks – creating a Federal Registry of gunpowder/ammunition users. Same thing, different route.
I’ve fired some pretty fancy AR15s, from an NFA M16 to an original ArmaLite AR15A2 HBAR, an LWRC M6, a Colt pistol-variant of some such.
There is no passion in these pathetic, soulless toys.
There is only one true weapon, and that is the Mosin-Nagant.
Wait until they find out how much more energy is in gasoline per unit volume. They’ll move all gas stations at least a mile from every school, park or religious venue.
Stuck on stupid.
I’ll say it again, this bill is just another attempt at creating a Federal Registry, of gunpowder/ammunition users in this case. Same thing as the background checks under a different guise. You buy ammo, you have a gun….
everybody is getting a little too “knee-jerk” about reid. he is toeing the line ordered by his employer (the DNC) but he consistently votes against anti 2A measures (he remembers what happened after the awb votes).and yes i have always voted against him in elections.
I just noticed that the dog is carrying.
Youve definitely improved on the rifle shooting and pistol lately, do you practice more with the rifle/pistol than the shotgun or an even mix of all 3? I was hurtin for you during the shotgun stage of that last video with the 2 shots loaded into the chamber.
Ive really enjoyed watching these 3 gun videos as my opportunities training/competing have pretty much been assassinated by grad school.
Et tu Todd Bridges?
What you talkin’ bout, Willis?
I thought he looked familiar…that Todd Bridges is one mean dude. And he seems to have aged unusually well…
Italian guns, Italian cars, Italian women, Italian clothes, Italian jewelry, Italian food, Italian wine, Rome, Sicily, and Milan. These are a few of my favorite things.
Pretty sure the only way I’m getting a Benelli anytime soon is convincing the spousal unit that the only way I’m going to get onto the podium in competitive shooting is with top-tier equipment. And hope she doesn’t figure out that it doesn’t necessarily take a $3k shotgun with $500 worth of upgrades to do well…
If someone bought me one, I’d take up hunting.
I’d engage in small talk with her.
The BBC is reporting what this article called “social workers” as “community workers search[ing] homes for weapons”.
Funny how words get garbled when translating Chicom BS to Chinese to English.
I had not thought of fireworks, though. Now I have another source of propellant if the SHTF.
Some fireworks, some pipe, and some melted down lead (from fishing or tire balancing weights) is all you need to make a functional muzzleloader. Getting the amount of propellant right could be a little dicey though. You only get to get it wrong once.
Although the most recent knife attack on schoolkids in China resulted in no deaths, that is not true of several other similar attacks there.
Wikipedia: “School attacks in China (2010–12)
A series of uncoordinated mass stabbings, hammer attacks, and cleaver attacks in the People’s Republic of China began in March 2010. The spate of attacks left at least 25 dead and some 115 injured.”
I would not be so cynical about every news report out of China, certainly the Chinese government is capable of doing a lot of bad things, but that does not make everything reported in the news false. If anything I would think that Muslim/government clashes are UNDER reported.
My wife is from that region of China. Her family actually used to have a gun to protect themselves from possible attacks from Muslims. The muslims in that area do attack other people, my brother-inlaw lives in a city where several hundred people where killed in a muslim riot just a couple of years ago.
So who wants to start pooling money together to start a firearms financing company? Sounds like a good investment to me. If everyone else pulls out of a market for non business reasons lots of money is left on the table.
WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY LOOKING AT? Are they receiving a Sign from On High?
I like how he states “what kind of person genuinely wants to impose that kind of hellish life on his fellow citizen?” without a hint of irony.
How about you tell us bub? What kind of a person are you who wants to impose the hellish life of disarmament on their fellow citizen?
Snoop is no Rhodes Scholar obviously and I get the opinion that the “187 on a motherf@&$):! cop” makes him sound quite the hypocrite to comment on gun control…however…
I think the context is important in that: A) that song from Deep Cover was written as a soundtrack for a movie where a UC officer faces the peril of getting caught, and B) the song was written in 1992, same time as the LA riots, by a then early 20s black man, in a time when minorities were alleging an incredible amount of racism perpetrated by the LAPD
I dont condone the message, I wasnt there so I dont know what was really going on, but I do know we all mature as we get older and “Snoop Lion” doesnt rap about guns and violence because he’s an almost 50 year old father FWIW
I think it would be easier to get this through than a gun ban. Even if Joe Citizen is starting to understand the need to arm himself for self defense, I think you’ll immediately lose him again when you oppose the black powder ban.
With no concept of reloading, or stump removal, it will seem unreasonable to lobby the Constitution preserves your right to explosive powder. How long did it take to get him on board with guns? They probably think that you just pour black powder into any container and BAM, bomb a la Looney Tunes
Hi All,
Just wanted to add my 2 cents. I have recently purchased a Sig Sauer 1911 TacOps handgun (with rail). I took the gun to the range and shot Winchester 230 grain ball with above average group results. I need to mention that the gun came with four (yes, four) stainless steel magazines. Apart from one single failure to lock the slide in retracted position after the last round was fired, I experienced absolutely no problems. I attribute this to mag follower rather than gun itself. After 230 ball, I shot some 200 grain jacketed, lighter loads, again made by Winchester. The gun performed well, no issues, stoppages or hickups, but the groups at the target kind of “opened up”, and they opened up a lot, say from 1.5″ that I shot with 230 grain to over 3″. The next time I went out, I brought some Fiocchi 200 grain JHPs. I loaded the first mag, raked the slide and boom. The gun shot all right, the next round seemed to chamber, but the slide did not close all the way. I cleared the stoppage and attempted at shooting the same round again. I got the same result! Anyway, the short of the long story is – I was unable to shoot ANY of the 200 gr JHPs out of ANY of the 4 magazines in my Sig Sauer TacOps 1911 pistol that day. Very disappointing. This gun should be able to digest anything you put into it in 45 ACP, regardless of weight or shape, as long as it’s a factory load, right?
Kizoni
Wow, that guy has some Cajones. Like seriously.
Alas, in a true HD Scenario that blade would be only marginaly better than being unarmed.
What about a Columbine situation where you have students being shot at while running?
Most of you are looking at this as an end all be all, as if you’ve lost the ability to think outside the box and only in the chamber.
Even if you have armed guards and armed teachers in a school, what harm is it to have something that doubles as a barrier between life and death when the unthinkable happens? Even if this covers 20-25% of a body, that’s better than nothing when you’re running for your life.
As they say, it’s a last ditch layer. Something you hope you never have to use.
Were people under the impression that GE isn’t evil? I try to avoid GE at all costs, just look up their history. The lying, cheating, stealing, worthless pile of goo that started it should be enough for people to not have anything to do with them.