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Reader Mark Norcross writes:

Something to keep an eye on – today the California senate proposals for new gun laws are to be voted on in the assembly appropriations committee, and the Assembly bills in the senate appropriations committee. As I understand it, this is the last day for matters to be voted out of committee or they are dead for the year. We are pretty sure that any bill that gets out of committee will be approved on the floor, but the committees, even with democrat majorities, are not a sure thing because of the costs associated with some of the proposals–basically they have to find money in the budget to pay for them or they die . . .

Now let’s add a couple of wild cards. As has been widely reported, California has a problem with prison overcrowding, and has been ordered by the 9th Circuit to release approximately 10,000 MORE prisoners by the end of THIS year (app. 25,000 generally nonviolent (read drug) offenders have been released so far). SCOTUS is disinclined to intervene on behalf of the state. And this relates how?

Brown yesterday proposed a $750 million two-year plan to send these 10,000, many violent, offenders to local county jails and in-state or out-of-state private prisons, a sum that would eat up most of the $1.1 billion surplus in the budget now. That would certainly put the brakes on new registration programs, like the proposed ammo purchase law and the reclassification of lawful firearms as “assault weapons” and requiring registration of same that still costs millions to implement.

On the other hand, Senate President Darryl Steinberg (who is responsible for the proposed law reclassifying and banning virtually all semiauto rifles as “assault weapons”) came out today and castigated Brown’s plan, calling it a nonstarter in the Senate. He has this crazy idea that the Ninth Circuit ought to allow the State three years to implement drug treatment plans in order to lower the rate of new prisoner admissions–something the Ninth has already explicitly rejected, but hey, this is politics (and maybe Steinberg has designs on the governor’s office). This political fight could upset the whole political apple cart, and increase the likelihood of a tit-for-tat veto of Steinberg’s pet gun bills.


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  1. If you are in CA (or in another state and care what happens here) and want to watch the live video feed use VLC Player or Windows Media player to open this link mms://

    The anti-gun SB’s are most likely going to happen until late tonight, but it is still interesting to watch the process.

  2. I dream of the day that instead of wasting millions – possibly even billions – on drug prohibition and gun control, we can spend money improving the educational system and providing job training. Those two things, combined with prison reform (we have an extremely high recrimination rate) will reduce violent crime and murders more than anything else.

    • I pray to differ. Calling off the insane war on drugs and the gun grabbing would definitely be good for everyone and save money, true. Plus calling off the insane war on drugs and vacating the convictions of drug war prisoners would free up lots of prison space. But I really truly honestly believe that the Free Market would do an incalculably better job of mproving the educational system and providing job training, as well as saving money. The Free Market is always better than government, at least at things at that level. I don’t know how we’d do a private court system or land office, but even that could probably be done with a little thought. And national defense is within the purview of Government – well, the Constitution says exactly what the government’s duties and responsibilities are.

      • Actually, the Romans had private law enforcement. If you believed someone was guilty of a crime, you went before a praetor (basically a judge or magistrate) and made the accusation, and he decided whether to proceed with the case or not. However, it was up to you to higher a lawyer to prosecute the case, just like it was up to the defendant to higher a defense attorney. The Romans also had no public police force or fire departments, so it was up to individuals to deal with that kind of thing.

        The “no fire departments” opened up a lot of room for exploitation though. An ally of Caesar, Marcus Licinius Crassus, had a private fire brigade, which he would deploy to put out fires. However, they would only start to put out the fires once the property owner had agreed to sell the property. Otherwise, the Crassus’ fire brigade would stand by and let the fire burn. It was highly suspected that not all of those fires were accidental.

        • Hmm. ‘Spose that had anything to do with the infamous Nero legend?

          And fire is kind of, meh. Put in sprinklers, keep an extinguisher in every room, don’t build in a known wildfire zone, use fire-resistant material, don’t smoke in bed, learn how to put out a kitchen fire – Oh, wait. That would require self-reliance, which is apparently out of favor these days.

  3. We have eyes and ears in the Capital.
    Right now was told meeting will be held at noon today.
    We MUST contact our legislators NOW!
    Call, Email, Fax. It takes ten minutes and makes a difference.
    Let’s melt their phone lines!
    We have 4 specific individuals that YOU MUST CONTACT NOW!

    Here are the four people you MUST contact today.
    They will be voting today to move forward with striping our second amendment rights, and they MUST hear from you today. Take ten minutes to help us in California.

    Contact Richard Pan today and tomorrow.
    Assemblyman Richard Pan
    Phone (916) 319-2009
    Fax (916) 319-2109
    E-mail – [email protected]

    Assembly Member Susan Eggman
    Phone (916) 319-2013
    Fax (916) 319-2113
    E-mail – [email protected]

    Assembly Appropriations Committee Chairman Mike Gatto
    Phone (916) 319-2043
    Fax (916) 319-2143
    E-mail – [email protected]

    Speaker of the Assembly John Perez
    Phone: (916) 319-2053
    Fax: (916) 319-2153
    Email: [email protected]

        • Thank you Accuri81!
          Call fax and email..
          I am not sure how much good it will do either, but if we melt their phone lines, at least we can say we did not go down without a fight!

      • Thanks 5spot, the meeting is starting soon, but we want to make sure that these guys know how we feel.

    • Did you say, “tomorrow,” as in Saturday? I’ve been catching up on email and posting the Freedom message to BBSs all day; it’s 9 PM PDT now in Whittier. )-;

  4. Good luck, CA. Miracles can happen, so I’ll have my fingers crossed. Though, it is kind of messed up when potential miracles involve discussions of releasing 10,000 violent thugs, even indirectly.

    • No, no, no! You’ve got it all wrong. Nobody’s suggesting anything remotely resembling releasing violent thugs. (where did you ever get such a crazy idea?) What we’re talking about is releasing kids who have done no harm to anyone (other than the delicate little egos of the drug warriors) who were sitting at home or driving over to their buddies’ place or walking to the store or sitting at the bus stop or just hanging out, and got rousted for possessing and/or smoking plant parts.

      A couple of years ago I got pulled over on my bicycle (it was a girl cop, the spittin’ image of Julie Scardina) who either pulled me over because she wanted to check out my tush or was profiling for long hair; she frisked me, found my 0.2 gram traveling stash and busted me for possession. (It’d been so long since I’d been touched by a woman that if she hadn’t busted me, I would have asked her to do it again) Luckily, all I had to do was pay $40.00 for “alcohol and drug abuse school.” Since then I’ve gotten my doctor’s recommendation to treat “insomnia”. 😉 Actually, I’ve “discovered” another valid use for it that’s not in the cannabis pharmacopeia yet – relieving the “white knuckles” of alcoholic withdrawal.

  5. To be honest, I am gonna put my money on the Nazis for this D-day, we dont call it Kalifornia for nothing. But I’m still rooting for the Allies.

  6. If this stuff passes its time to leave the ocean for a red state. Got fam already in AZ….it’s a dry heat….ptfff!

    So the bullet button debacle (free staters please laugh at us now), went from a legal means to still own black rifles to, as Yee put it, an intentional scurting of the law by the gun industry. The original hidden intent was ban them completely….FOAD!

    • If you do, could you stop by and pick me up and take me with you and maybe help me find a place to stay that I can afford on my early SS of $916.00? I have some marketable skills, notably Autocad drafting and technical writing, even proofreading or data entry, just about anything I could do sitting at a computer. Right now I’m a telecommuting political activist of a Libertarian persuasion. ;-D

  7. This is such a lost cause. Last year when I lived in California I worked on a Republican Assemblyman’s campaign. Gun rights were so far down his list of concerns. Honestly the Republicans there will vote against the Gun laws, but not because most of them are hard core 2A supporters, but because it’s what the R’s in California do. At this point there is no hope for a Democrat controlled super majority in both houses. They will pass whatever bills they want.

    The only hope is for California is the courts, and that is a pretty bleak outlook at the moment as no one wants to fight the battles there.

    • In truth, quite a number of battles are being waged in the federal district courts and the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. CalGuns, SAF, and NRA have multiple cases or amici briefs on file, as do a couple of private litigators here and there. The problem is that the trial courts always rule for allowing restrictions, and the Ninth Circuit just doesn’t rule.

      • Mark is quite right, we have a lot of battles in court right now. The main one is the safe gun extortion list.
        If we can get that tossed, then the whole magazine safety, and micro stamping goes with it.
        The only thing that would remain in place if the ten round limit.

  8. Aaaaaaaand all of the bad ones passed out of suspense file and are set for the Assembly floor vote sometime next month. FML

  9. Here is an easy way to help us out in CA. Remember we should support each others rights

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    Dear Representative,

    I am a law-abiding citizen and a strong supporter of the Second Amendment. I Strongly Oppose all newly proposed California gun laws before you today. Which include the following:

    SB 47 (Sen. Leland Yee) Oppose
    SB 53 (Sen. Kevin de Leon) Oppose
    SB 108 (Sen. Leland Yee) Oppose
    SB 293 (Sen. Mark DeSaulnier) Oppose
    SB 299 (Sen. Mark DeSaulnier) Oppose
    SB 374 (Sen. Darrell Steinberg) Oppose
    SB 396 (Sen. Loni Hancock) Oppose
    SB 475 (Sen. Mark Leno) Oppose
    SB 567 (Sen. Hannah Beth Jackson) Oppose
    SB 683 (Sen. Marty Block) Oppose
    SB 755 (Sen. Lois Wolk) Oppose
    AB 48 (Asm. Nancy Skinner) Oppose
    AB 169 (Asm. Roger Dickinson) Oppose
    AB 170 (Asm. Steven Bradford) Oppose
    AB 180 (Asm. Rob Bonta) Oppose
    AB 231 (Asm. Philip Ting) Oppose
    AB 500 (Asm. Tom Ammiano) Oppose
    AB 711 (Asm. Anthony Rendon) Oppose
    AB 1131 (Asm. Nancy Skinner) Oppose

    The best approach to addressing violence involving the criminal misuse of firearms is to prevent unauthorized individuals from accessing firearms. Rather than proposing more anti-gun legislation that infringes on the Second Amendment rights of the law-abiding citizen, the focus should be on strengthening our nation’s mental health care system and improving the quality of the information the data in FBI National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) used by licensed retailers to ensure that a purchaser is not prohibited from buying a firearm.

    Unfortunately, the NICS databases are incomplete because about half the states have not provided records that establish someone is prohibited from owning a firearm under current law. States must improve the NICS database by submitting all records establishing an individual is a prohibited person, such as mental health records showing someone is an “adjudicated mental defective” or involuntarily committed to a mental institute, as well as records showing someone is the subject of a domestic violence protective order, a drug addict or subject to another prohibited category. Similarly, the federal government should only make grants available to states that submit such records.

    I am your constituent and I vote. Please represent me and focus on real solutions that fix NICS – and mitigate the violence problem – and that do not infringe my Second Amendment rights.

    Again I Strongly Oppose all newly proposed CA gun laws before you today.

    Your Name

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  10. So, these things are only going to hurt lawful gun owners AND they’re bad for the budget. And they’ll still pass, probably overwhelmingly. Awesome. Every spare penny I have will be spent on ammo and new firearms until these are voted on (and in all likelihood approved). The time for casual ammo foraging is over.

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