Remington unveiled their new 20/20 rifle a few weeks back, and for the first time we’ve been able to put our hands on the gun and see how it functions. And while it might just be that TrackingPoint’s real deal has spoiled me for life, I’m not a big fan . . .
The rifle I shot was a long action Remington 700 in .30-06 Springfield, and the only difference between this rifle and the bog standard Remington 700 is the scope. Just like the Burris Eliminator that came out years ago, it gives you a range to the target and adjusts your point of aim accordingly.
The only real difference between this scope and the Eliminator is that (A) the ammo is matched to the gun, so you have a more precise ballistic chart programmed into the gun, and (B) it adjusts for the wind. Except it doesn’t — you have to do that for it. Still.
The scope also reportedly tracks moving objects and gives you firing solutions on them, but there were no moving objects to be found and we couldn’t test it.
Unlike the real deal, the Remington 20/20 doesn’t release the trigger when properly aimed — you need to pull the trigger yourself and do it right. So in short, the gun is basically a stock Remington 700 with a slightly improved Burris Eliminator on top. It makes sense if you’re lusting after a TrackingPoint rifle, but not if you’re looking for a cost effective long range gun.
This is technology that’s clearly still in its infancy, so I’m sure it’ll be good someday that people went through this step of its evolution. But it’s not for me. Maybe for my kids. Well, my friends’ kids, because I don’t have any.
That you know of.
Hey-ooooo.
But every time I pass an orphanage I wave… just in case.
Really? You wave? I look the other way and speed up. If I get stuck at a light near one I pick my nose since no one wants to risk touching the guy digging for a winner (works on cops too)
That’s funny, right thar.
I am sure this will be adopted so our robot masters can easily use it.
How could it even adjust for windage automatically? With a big honkin’ WIND SOCK on top? It still wouldn’t tell you about wind downrange.
A super proprietary mathematical equation
The software these use are highly disappointing, especially at the price! Today, the smallest smartphone/PDA hold ballistic software that holds data on pretty much EVERY data point you want including caliber/barrel length/barrel twist/bullet weight/powder charge/powder type/Etc as well as most ammo and firearm manufacturer’s data. So why doesn’t this? If it did, you could sell the “scope” as a stand-alone for almost any rifle. As far as wind data, TrackingPoint could put a port on the side to connect a Kestrel unit.
Wind data at the shooter, but you still got to call wind at multiple points for truly long distance shots.
I don’t think this tech has much of a future. The reason people shoot long range is because of the skill required to do it well, and having a scope do any of it is cool, but defeats the purpose. This stuff might take off with military and police snipers (because they have to shoot perfect every time), and maybe even some hunters, but I don’t think the long-range community in general will like these things.
Yeah, because the only reason people shoot guns is for the challenge. Is this The Truth About Atlatls? Plenty of people are focused on achieving results. Shooting is a matter of life and death, and I’m not about shy away from a technology that helps me put a bullet in the bad guy before he puts a bullet in me. These gizmos are the future. I am a little worried that shooting will become too easy, but for now at least these machines can’t read the wind. As you say, police and military will be interested for the practicality. And if it’s adopted by them, it will be adopted by civilians. AR-15s and Glocks.
I bought one of these as a late Xmas gift.
I had to send it back and have the scope replaced. Been two months and they say they are waiting on the replacement to arrive then they have to tune the scope to the rifle then send it back to me.
From the little time I got to play with it in the living room, it’s has potential to be a game changer.
People don’t not like the scope, they don’t like the idea of a scope that lets my 10year old daughter hit Skoal cans or even moving targets at 500 yards when they have been shooting for years and years and have trouble being that accurate.
It records video and audio, streams the scope view to an ipad.
They even have cool glasses that have the HUD in them so you can therotically shoot over walls, around corners with sub moa accuracy. (Eat your heart out haji)
It calculates the firing solution 54 times a second (that’s how it tracks moving targets)
I could see congress/PETA mandating this type of audio/video recording scope for proof of “humane kills”
The first mode has a mildot reticle that stays accurate through the zoom range and only uses the rangefinder(750yd max)
The other two modes have the red/blue tracking reticle.
People seem to mistakenly think it’s a choice between skill or computer. The precision tracking shots apply to 100-500yard shots.
If you want to shoot longer ranges, you use the first, mildot mode. It lazer ranges out to 750yd. Anything over 500yd, you MUST rely on your skill just like any other scope. The good thing about the 20/20 in mildot mode is the mildots stay accurate no matter what x zoom you use.
On the advanced and advanced movers mode you can adjust the killzone size from something like 4MOA down to .1MOA
(Killzone = red dot size in scope)
I think it’s a perfect training tool.
My daughter can hold it and I can see what she sees in the scope and she can groove the good habits the first time without ever having to learn the bad ones.
Next thing you know, she can hit a bucket at 600 -700 yard with mildot and hold off correctly in half the time.
Do I make since or am I the only one that thinks like that? Heheheh
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