In one of the biggest gun-rights decisions in recent years, the U.S. Supreme Court has agreed to hear a challenge to sweeping bans on AR-15s and other common semi-automatic rifles, often called “assault weapons” by cynical politicians and gun-ban advocates, after declining to take such cases several times in the past.
On June 30, SCOTUS granted certiorari in Viramontes v. Cook County and Grant v. Higgins, both challenges to the bans on so-called “assault weapons” in Cook County, Illinois, and Connecticut. This cert grant lands in the same term that’s already produced major Second Amendment rulings — including the Court’s decision in United States v. Hemani on the federal drug-user gun ban — and follows a year in which the Fifth Circuit’s ruling in United States v. Comeaux deepened a circuit split over whether firearm accessories qualify as “Arms” at all. Results of the challenge are expected to have widespread ramifications for similar bans currently in effect across the country, as well as proposed bans in several states.
The Cases
Originally filed in 2021, Viramontes challenges Cook County’s ban on many commonly owned modern guns, which was the precursor for the nearly identical statewide ban passed by the Illinois legislature. In Grant, the Second Amendment Foundation and others are challenging Connecticut’s ban on commonly owned semi-automatic rifles — both by name and by feature set. Virginia gun owners, who watched their own Second Amendment fights play out in recent years, will be watching this one closely, given how directly an AR-15 ruling could affect proposed bans in blue-leaning states beyond Illinois and Connecticut.
“The Supreme Court’s decision to hear these pivotal cases will finally provide the courts the necessary guidance as it relates to the types of arms protected by the Second Amendment,” SAF Executive Director Adam Kraut said in a news release announcing the court action. “The modern semi-automatic rifles banned in Cook County, Connecticut and elsewhere are among the most commonly owned firearms in the country, placing them well within the scope of the Second Amendment. The Second Amendment protects arms in common use for lawful purposes, and it’s hard to argue that a type of rifle that potentially outnumbers Ford F-150 trucks in America doesn’t meet that standard.”
The Numbers Behind “Common Use”
According to the National Shooting Sports Foundation, Americans own about 32 million “modern sporting rifles,” the organization’s phrase for common semi-auto rifles. If that’s not “in common use,” I’m not sure what would be. NSSF also estimates nearly 1 billion detachable magazines are in private possession, with hundreds of millions holding more than 15 rounds.
SAF founder and Executive Vice President Alan M. Gottlieb said lawmakers have long relied on fearmongering to pass laws that infringe on the Second Amendment, especially when it comes to common, semi-automatic rifles.
“We’re hopeful the Court will finally put to rest the idea that these rifles are not covered by the Second Amendment simply because of their look and features,” Gottlieb added. “These arms are no different than other semi-automatic firearms millions of Americans own for self-defense, and we look forward to restoring the right to keep and bear arms for countless citizens through these cases.”
FPC: “The End of the Beginning”
The pro-gun rights group Firearms Policy Coalition, SAF’s partner in Viramontes v. Cook County, was also quick to embrace the court’s decision to hear the AWB challenge.
“This is not the end of the fight to eliminate bans on so-called ‘assault weapons,’ but it marks the end of the beginning,” FPC wrote in a released statement. “For years, the FPC Grassroots Army has fought hard to bring this question to the Supreme Court, and now the time has come to march forward and reclaim the rights that were immorally taken from us.”
After the ruling these treasonous morons made on birthright citizenship.. do you actually trust them on hearing gun ban cases?
I have confidence in Alito and Thomas to get it right just about every time. That’s it. Amy is awful. Gorsuch and Kavanaugh are much better than Roberts or any Democrat.
Losing a battle that doesn’t actually matter much shouldn’t worry you as much as it seems to.
I’m not sure what you’re referring to, but I’m referring to Trump v. Barbara. Justice Alito called it “one of the most important decisions in the history of the Court.” I think he’s right. If that doesn’t matter, then nothing matters.
I’m referring to the same case, Barbara.
The case is a “political bombshell” but strategically it means little. In militaristic terms, that war and nearly all of the meaningful battles were lost long ago. Ergo, in the now, it basically is a non-issue. On top of that, you can get 90% of what you want quite easily anyway, so who really cares?
I mean, other than Right leaning news editors and pundits who need clicks because clicks = money?
Alito is free to express his opinion, and I’m free to note that SCOTUS dissenting opinions are often a little hyperbolic.
Trump’s own opinion is that Trump v. Slaughter was the bigger case, and came out in our favor. Strategically, he’s not wrong because institutions, but that’s another topic. For as bombastic as the guy is, he does seem to grasp nuance and subtlety rather well, a trait not often found in his base or the GOP more generally, as I’m wont to point out constantly because it continues to be true.
If you get past the Right wing rage/click bait and actually think, as opposed to emote, you quickly realize that “anchor babies” are an issue that’s fairly easily addressed tangentially and that this is better than a direct attack where you burn a ton of political capital basically just to “own the libs”.
Attack surfaces matter, and outside some rather small espionage issues, the real problem with “anchor babies” isn’t their own citizenship, it’s that “anchor” thing because that’s the holding point for “chain migration” which brings in multiples of the number of “anchor babies” born when the fam gets here and gets citizenship. This is, in effect, the main draw for having a kid the the US, it leads to the fam eventually getting citizenship too. Once you understand that incentive…
Anchor babies have to be addressed by a Constitutional Amendment. OK, fine. That’s time consuming and politically costly. It may stop future anchor babies and the attendant chain migration but it doesn’t work retroactively. It’s also unlikely to pass, so the expense is “good money after bad” and it’s not going to get you what a lot of people want anyway, so it’s expensive, good money after bad chasing something impossible. That’s a trifecta of retardation and therefore best avoided.
Chain migration, which is the real issue here, OTOH can be addressed by a few lines of regular legislation that’s comparatively cheap and easy.
And if you do that right, then outside the aforementioned world of espionage, the point of having an “anchor baby” disappears as soon as the “chain” is cut, meaning that once chain migration is dealt with future anchor babies drop to a minimal problem anyway because the entire incentive to have them is gone. This is as simple as a law that states that if you drop a kid while here illegally then you’re subject to a lifetime ban on green cards and citizenship.
Further, there is no world where the US population was going to sit still for taking pre-existing “anchor babies” stripping them of citizenship and deporting them and then repeating that with the family of said anchor baby. So, outside certain intelligence operations mostly centered around the CCP, this was all a tempest in a teapot.
If the court tells you that you can’t skin a cat a specific way, but you have other options, you simply use the other options. You end up with a skinned cat either way, so who cares?
Strategically, Trump did the right thing here. He took a shot and he lost. That sucks but he doesn’t care because he still has several aces up his sleeve, especially post Slaughter where he can put people in place to do what he wants on this front (and others!).
Jesus, I don’t even like the guy and I end up having to defend him to his own base. WTF are we even doing? And people wonder why I say that most GOPers couldn’t figure out what time it was if you force fed them a grandfather clock.
Has anyone apologized to Serge yet, you know, since he ended up being right about Trump’s gun actions in Trump 1.0?
“Anchor babies have to be addressed by a Constitutional Amendment. OK, fine. That’s time consuming and politically costly.”
Huh? Just amend the Constitution? That’s all? Well, let’s get right on that. The last one was 34 years ago. The one before that was before most people were born. The country was different then. It might not even be possible now under the best circumstances.
We can’t even get senators to agree that we need voter ID. Supreme Court Justices think a five day election day is Constitutional. We had to go all the way to the Supreme Court to finally decide that boys don’t have a Constitutional right to play in women’s sports. We have a SC Justice who said she couldn’t say what a woman was. No one could have imagined it would be this bad just 15 years ago. Is it okay if I “emote” about this?
No, the problem isn’t chain migration. The problem is another Puppet Admin inviting 10+ million illegals during a four year term. That’s why it had to be locked down asap. This country won’t survive many more Biden-type four year cycles. It will be unrecognizable soon.
If you were China, Russia, Iran, etc. how would you handle the USA? You would have a million anchor babies, born in the USA but raised in the homeland. Then you would send them here once they could legally vote, and they could decide the fate of the country. Biden didn’t win by millions of votes, he won by about 45,000 votes in a few swing states. How many did Gore lose by? China isn’t just using birth tourism; they’re contracting American surrogates to have their babies. This is a massive vulnerability because Dems have given up any real pretense at stopping illegal immigration. They explicitly encourage it. It’s their only path to political power since they gave up on Americans.
I’ll take parts of this piece by piece like it’s still 2021.
Just amend the Constitution? That’s all? Well, let’s get right on that. Just amend the Constitution? That’s all? Well, let’s get right on that.
I mean, saying it is cool and all but I don’t see the GOP’s grass roots actually doing anything to further that goal, therefore I don’t see the GOP’s elected members doing it either. Something about that “work” bit I bang on about.
I’d also point out, again, that as I said, it’s costly and time consuming. This leads to questions of if the bang for the buck is worth it at this point in time or if that political capital should be spent somewhere else in a manner that accrues more political capital, making the amendment “cheaper” to purchase down the line.
Until you do that, and/or stop electing geriatrics en masse, you’re just spinning your wheels.
We can’t even get senators to agree that we need voter ID
Kinda my point in the previous paragraph. The GOP is such a shitshow it can’t do the easy things, but you want to run off and go for the “I am Death Incarnate” level stuff right away? I’d rate that as unwise.
Supreme Court Justices think a five day election day is Constitutional…
See above. Though this is much, much easier to solve via simple legislation given that Congress has the explicit power to do it via Art 1, Sec 4, Clause 1.
We had to go all the way to the Supreme Court to finally decide that boys don’t have a Constitutional right to play in women’s sports.
An absolutely perfect example of what I’ve been saying for years. The average GOPer is lazy and doesn’t put in the work. The result is that you control very little across broad swaths of culture and society. This leaves you with smashing the emergency stop and hoping it still works. Maybe it’s time for some maintenance.
Or, as Marilyn Manson said “You fucked yourselves and you raised these sheep, blue and withered seeds you will reap”.
Is it okay if I “emote” about this?
Sure, you do you.
Just understand that they’ve maneuvered you into a corner, sitting in the corner crying isn’t going to get you out of the corner.
No, the problem isn’t chain migration. The problem is another Puppet Admin inviting 10+ million illegals during a four year term.
Then why do you care about this case at all? A huge percentage of the illegals are men, men don’t reproduce on their own last I checked. Are you even ready for the real discussion about this? You specifically are, Dude, but the average GOPer is not ready for it because of what happens if you actually do it. This is, frankly, why there’s a grain of truth in the “Day of the Pillow” joke.
Getting rid of the illegals in this country is not hard at all. They’ll mostly self-deport if you do a few simple things. However, there are consequences to that occurring and “the Right” is not ready for those. Mostly, they don’t even know those consequences exist and once they find out, they’ll probably blame the elected GOPers who didn’t inform them.
A rational, adult, public discussion of the facts? ROFLMAO.
This country won’t survive many more Biden-type four year cycles.
There’s an argument, which gets stronger every day, that the fatal damage is already done. If the GOP continues along the current trajectory this argument becomes reality.
If you were China, Russia, Iran, etc. how would you handle the USA?
I’d say that the late 1950’s KGB and 1980’s MSS (Chinese intelligence) assessments were correct, sit back and watch the US self-destruct, which is exactly the path it’s on.
As Yuri Bezmenov pointed out, the blood poisoning was accomplished years ago. If I dart an animal with a toxin or soporific drug I wait for the drug to take effect, I don’t go wrestle the animal while it’s still conscious. At most, I sit on the truck and dart it again via propaganda, which is what they’re doing.
Then you would send them here once they could legally vote…
Nah, I’d get them all educated and then send them here to run for office and climb the ladders of other, already weakened, institutions. The CCP already demonstrably does this, they have for decades.
The CIA used to, decades ago, actively try to counter it. Today, it’s a more passive program so far as I can tell.
China isn’t just using birth tourism; they’re contracting American surrogates to have their babies.
Nothing of which I’m aware in the proposals thus far advanced would alter this.
Further, I’m not actually sure this is true. The open source information on this suggests that they use various visas to get couples here to have a kid with dual citizenship and then take the kid back to China and educated there for “K-12” then come back to the US for college where IP in vulnerable and useful credentials can be gotten.
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Regardless of all of that, there’s an obvious order of operations here and straying from that order because of a single lost court case is foolish.
I find it really rather odd that this problem has existed for decades and decades but has only become existential now.
IRL, I don’t think anything has materially changed because it hasn’t. All the SCOTUS did was uphold the status quo ante. Which means that we need to adjust, not throw a shit fit or hardcore dooming.
The patient’s bleeding to death and has surgically amenable cancer. Which do you deal with first?
Well, that depends, do you care if the patient is breathing five minutes from now?
It seems to me that a huge percentage of people don’t care if the patient’s breathing five minutes from now because, mostly, they’re not smart enough to realize the situation they’re in.
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You want to fix this? Step one is a viable plan to unfuck the economy for people <45 because that drains fuel from the Left and the Retard Right and puts that fuel in your tank. You're now draining their political capital and putting it in your pocket to do the costly shit you need to do.
As part of that, you also need to metaphorically kick the living shit out of anyone blathering Generational Warfare nonsense. The media equivalent of a public castration for the next fucker unironically talking about stupid shit like avocado toast.
But again, you can't do this because the vast majority have no clue what time it is. So, IRL, the first step is unfucking the low IQ nature of Right leaning political discourse.
It's almost like SAFE's on the right track with that whole "RINO hunting" thing.
Maybe, just maybe, the problems would be ameliorated to some degree if the GOP wasn't constantly damn near 20 years behind the DNC.
People ask where the Right Wing Billionaires are… lol, waiting for you morons to wise up, that's where they are. Anyone with even limited political connections knows there are a bunch of these people just in Texas, unwilling to drop any money because the GOP can't get organized enough to use the money remotely wisely. They're looking at it as an investment: show me that you can use the money and I'll give it.
You haven't shown you can use it, so they don't cut the checks. We just went through this in Colorado.
There are lots of things that can be done legislatively, but a modern Dem administration won’t enforce any of it. Amending the Constitution ain’t happening though.
Crying in the corner? It’s okay to be frustrated with our leaders and call them out by name. Saying chain migration isn’t the problem is obviously hyperbolic to highlight the heart of the matter. We’ve had it since the 60s. The real issue is the incentive structure plus zero enforcement. Modern Dems have shown their hand: ramp up incentives and don’t enforce the laws. That’s what remakes the country fast.
If you think I was dooming, then you misread me. I wasn’t even surprised by the ruling. I hoped it would be different, but this was always the realistic outcome. Amy and Roberts still suck. You won’t convince me otherwise. They’re basically liberals.
On the China surrogacy thing, the visa birth tourism stuff is real, but surrogacy is another big channel. Wealthy Chinese are using U.S. surrogates to crank out American-citizen kids (sometimes dozens or 100+ per guy). In Arcadia, that Chinese couple Xuan and Zhang had 21+ kids via surrogates in their mansion and ran an agency out of it. Same city where Mayor Eileen Wang just pleaded guilty to being an illegal agent for China, and that couple had donated max to her campaign. It’s not every case, but it shows how this can scale beyond basic tourist visas and create tons of U.S. citizen kids tied back to China.
“I find it really rather odd that this problem has existed for decades and decades but has only become existential now.”
I meant to include a reply to this. Democrats changed. They mostly stopped pretending to care about illegal immigration. Now they cheer for it. It’s a pretty drastic change from just 15 years ago, and especially from decades ago. Also, Trump is the first person to actually try to solve the problem both R’s and D’s have been pretending to work on for decades. Now it’s an open fight. Previously, both parties were working on more or less the same side.
[Again, keep in mind that I don’t tend to use “you” in the specific sense, but usually in the general sense unless explicitly stated. I’m not saying “you, Dude”. Also, warning, long.]
There are lots of things that can be done legislatively, but a modern Dem administration won’t enforce any of it.
OK, pardon my slight sarcasm here, then don’t do it and guarantee your loss when you miss all the shots you’re not taking. This is what I mean when I’m talking about doomerism or blackpilling. It is exceptionally common in Right Wing circles on various topics at various times. This is one of them.
Yes, the Left will push back. Duh, that’s expected. That means we can plan for it. Cops, generally, don’t just not chase a criminal because they’re probably going to run, do they?
Besides, it wouldn’t be much fun if they didn’t resist, would it? I mean, how good are you gonna feel winning a boxing match against a toddler?
Side Note: Going with the pill analogy, the black pill isn’t actually black, it’s a quadruple strength blue pill in fast acting suppository form. It’s also quite large, phallus shaped and has a magical ability to repel lube, so I don’t recommend it.
Your shot here is to do the right things, double or triple your pull with the <45's while weakening the Left by ~50% (from it's already weakened political position due to hemorrhaging normies). From there you can start capturing institutions currently in their control and you can take them back many times faster than the Left took them over. Now you have them on their backs in the sand.
Or, you can just not and then complain about the outcome, you know, the way GOPers have for the past 75 fucking years. Well that is, when they're not actively supporting Progressive positions of a few decades past and calling them "Conservative" because brainwashing totally doesn't work.
The real issue is the incentive structure plus zero enforcement.
Oh, great. We agree. So, shall we get to work?
You have essentially two alternatives, both suicidal.
You can whine and do nothing, as the GOP loves to do while swilling piss water and blowing braincells on living vicariously via sportsball. You know, be a avid Breitbart reader.
Or, we can go full shitlib and rage at the SCOTUS for “doing the wrong thing” when what you’re actually asking them to do is the wrong thing. This country is based on a system of laws, not a system of intents. Intent means sweet fuck all, what matters is what specifically was written in the law. This would be more of being an avid ZeroHedge reader.
Just trust me when I tell you this: You don’t want a court to deeply consider “intent” like this. That would still be exactly how you get Ketanji Brown Jackson decisions. It would also defeat the purpose of writing down the laws in the first place since we’re just going to refer to the intent “documents” anyway, so why have the legal docs?
On the China surrogacy thing, the visa birth tourism stuff is real, but surrogacy is another big channel.
I will defer to you on this as it’s not something I’ve looked into with any rigor. I will however note that it can be quickly and easily fixed with normal legislation regulating surrogacy. Which places it in the same boat as “chain migration”. In fact, both could probably be handled with a single two page law.
The part of this of which I am aware, so called “birth tourism” can also be easily dealt with (mostly) by regulation and perhaps an update to regular legislation. This ain’t hard.
Democrats changed.
I’d argue this is a misinterpretation. They didn’t change, they just got what they wanted and the Right wasn’t engaged enough on the topic to really take notice until it became a problem. It’s also, clearly not just “Democrats” because the same thing has happened all over the Western world.
Slowly at first, then all at once. Weird how often that happens.
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The point that I’d make here is that the outcome of this court case doesn’t matter if we’re actually smart (Please, Jesus just one time, that’s all I ask!) about how we deal with this. The same way I don’t care if someone passes my half-guard when they’re walking into one of my loop chokes by doing it.
Elections are won on the margins and we need to win elections to have power, yes? OK, so let’s boost our political ROI by 10-15% and be undefeatable for the foreseeable future. That’s what the Dems did and they’re tapped out at this point, that means if we return the favor… well, it’s a center-right country, bro.
I’ve talked about how to do that in bits and pieces, you Mr. Dude (specific usage this time) have a good enough memory to know what I’ve said.
The analysis of the system(s) is mostly done, at least enough to be operationalized. All that remains is for GOPers to get on board with actually being organized instead of taking pride in being a large group of feral cats.
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In closing: You want a funny but true recent story?
There’s a group pushing Scottish succession, supposedly large and powerful. They’re big on “We have to secede from the UK because the Jews control everything!” Israel this, Israel that, genocide, blah, blah blah.
Odd thing happens with the [not] war with Iran though. An internet cable that supplies internet to a region of Pakistan gets cut, takes their internet to zero for that area.
Oddly, at the exact time this happens, that Scottish successionist group goes silent. Even more strange, they come back as soon as that region of Pakistan gets its internet back.
Weird, huh? Is that a coincidence or is the noticing just intensifying?
It’s sad how many people have been manipulated by the Muslim bot plague.
One of the ways Dems are winning outside of major urban centers is through immigration. And in major urban centers, they’re becoming more radical as a result of immigration. So yes, it sucks that the court ruled the way it did, and it was a bad ruling regardless of your politics. It’s okay to say that. That doesn’t mean you’re giving up.
People need to understand how bad this is, given Democrats’ current policies. I did mention there were plenty of things to do legislatively. We’ve got a few months to work on that.
There might actually be a slightly better chance of getting a good ruling by challenging it again. The legislature needs to define birthright citizenship. That would trigger a different case because it would be legislation, not an executive order. They can use Thomas’s reasoning in his dissent and force Roberts and Barrett to explain how Thomas is wrong, which he isn’t.
Regarding the last paragraph, put the word out and contact reps and senators. Maybe not yours specifically, but you know what I mean. Chances would be better on this fight.
Regarding the SCOTUS ruling, the dissent wasn’t just about “intent.” It argued something else; that people understood what the 14th Amendment meant for years after it was passed. The executive branch enforced the law. Thomas laid out examples in his dissent. We understood it at the time, but over time we reinterpreted it for convenience.
…and it was a bad ruling regardless of your politics.
Define “bad ruling”. Does this mean “I didn’t get my preferred outcome” or does it mean “The rules of the game were bent or broken to achieve this ruling”?
The former is the problem over on other sites, and kinda my point.
The reality here is that there has been a long running debate about the meaning of “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” and, frankly, to my eye it’s never been particularly convincing. I’ve literally spent 20 years hearing this, along with quotations from the author of the amendment and thinking “If that’s what they truly meant to do then it seems like the 14A is poorly worded”.
I would note that Thomas’ dissent kinda adds emphasis to that line of thinking and that it’s not far off from “well regulated”, an argument we barely won, so we shouldn’t be exactly shocked here.
However, if I was to take all of this at face value I’d come back to something I point out all the time: law is downstream from politics, politics is downstream from culture, culture is downstream from institutions. One of the ways this happens is that culture informs interpretations of language. This is normal, and generally either unnoticed or not a problem.
However, given that the Right have done NOTHING to control the institutions, it’s hardly shocking they’re fighting, and losing, rear guard battles downstream from that loss of control.
I mean, let me get this straight, we live in a world where Conservatives have managed to end up with such iron fisted control of culture that their churches are infiltrated by LGBTQ2IA++ vestment wearing “ministers” and “pastors” openly preaching the Good Word of Transgenderism yet you want me to get all huffy about Cons also losing a word game against the people who literally control the English Departments at the university level?
Lol, no. I’ve warned you against playing that game for over a decade in this very comment section. What’s that phrase Cons love about “playing stupid games”?
None of which addresses my core point, which is that hyperventilating over this is a waste of time. This is a case of ergo sequitur, at best. The only rational behavior here is to take the L, learn from it and move forward.
The legislature needs to define birthright citizenship.
Sure, slip it into a large must-pass bill and keep quiet until it’s law. /done.
In fact, I’d argue we should be doing a lot more of that just in general, I’ve said that for years. This is why, on the other thread (and prior discussions in years past) I’ve pointed out that the Conservative personality, as currently constituted, is not a good fit for this fight.
Cons would, mostly, rather sit around moralfa**ing about the implications of the tactic than actually winning. This makes zero sense. Dems love large bills, ok, use that.
People need to understand how bad this is, given Democrats’ current policies. I did mention there were plenty of things to do legislatively. We’ve got a few months to work on that.
Yes, and I would note a fairly large silver lining here which comes not explicitly from this court case but from the overarching circumstance. Pull this off and you don’t have months, you have another two years with a lame-duck president who’s off the chain.
Trump has addressed the DSA primary wins and done so in a fashion that strongly suggests he’s ready for “war” with these people.
Well, you’ve now got an airtight argument for border controls, ICE actions and everything else anti-illegal immigration and the ability to use the DSA, NSJP etc’s own documentation against them to absolutely smash the Dems in most elections. You also have some really nice arguments that the people running on the D ticket are fundamentally and openly avowed anti-Americans running to destroy the US.
It’s not a hard argument to make, just show the public these groups’ own policy/founding/whatever documents, they’re online. They openly tell you what they want to do. Hang that around their neck with emphasis on this being post Barbara.
To use my previous parlance: They’ve given you a nice big attack surface here. It’s not as nice as a W, but we can work with this.
In the new context of this decision, you can now scare the piss out of normies and keep them voting Red.
Unless of course, you’re Tucker/Owns/Fuentes, in which case, so far as I can tell, you want a Blue win because it’s good for your YT channel which is why you’re basically parroting Hasan Piker (Dog Striker).
As far as Tucker is concerned, I think it’s at least partially an ego battle. He said the strikes last year were going to lead to WW3. Boy did he end up looking like a doofus. I sort of understood where he was coming from because he has PTSD for what he sees as being an enabler for the Iraq invasion.
Then he continued the hyperventilation this year, basically saying that Trump is being controlled by “those” people. Then the hard core “those” people as well as the Israeli government were opposed to Trump’s position. Furthermore, Trump put Bibi in his place multiple times. Boy, did Tucker end up looking like a doofus again. So now it’s semi-burn it down so he can at least say, “See I was right. This was so unpopular, that it made you lose.” Tucker has admitted to being in touch with the administration asking them to do what he wanted. Someone mentioned fairly recently that Tucker was cut from top official communication, and he was pissed about it. He did have a recent, good interview with a lower Trump official. That guy very nicely showed how Tucker was disingenuous, if not an outright liar to cover his tracks. Check it out if you haven’t seen it.
For the other two, I’d say it’s about the clicks.
RE: the ruling. It isn’t a word game. Check the main points of the dissent (the entire thing is crazy long). Thomas shows how it was understood, enforced, and even explained for years after it was passed. THEN, the government began playing games. Roberts has a history of this kind of ruling, and libs will be libs.
Not at all convinced Tucker hasn’t played a planned part somewhere in the neighborhood of controlled opposition………..just oddly not against us so much as those who use the jews control everything narrative to distract from a network of other issues where yes sometimes jews are involved. It has gotten a lot easier to have normal conversations since Iran put a lot of things into perspective see also Pakistan, India, and other 3rd world shitholes losing internet and/or getting vpns unmasked/having account based in data on display. Being able to show that most of the crazy isn’t even American to begin with has been fun as has framing the narrative for another period of assimilation. With that said ain’t nobody wanna talk about Ireland.
“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” — 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution (very first sentence).
The language is plain and straightforward…for anyone with two brain cells to rub together, anyway.
Correct, Henry. If I was born on a cruise ship docked in a Japanese harbor while my parents were on vacation, then I would be a subject to the Japanese government. They could call me up to fight for them and collect taxes from me when I got older, right? Right?
You’re either ignoring or you don’t understand the subject part. How could we be sure what was meant by that, at the time it was written? Should we dare to discover how it was explained by the author of the bill?
Senator Jacob Howard (R-MI), who introduced the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment on the Senate floor, provided this explanation on May 30, 1866 (Congressional Globe, 39th Cong., 1st Sess., p. 2890).
“This amendment which I have offered is simply declaratory of what I regard as the law of the land already, that every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, OF COURSE, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.“
Too bad Henry Thorsen, I mean Miner, doesn’t have two brain cells to rub together. People like that shouldn’t be allowed to vote.
That 32 million number is way, way low, I would put “assault weapons” at over 200 million.
I’d split the difference and call it 100 million to 150 million, or about 1/3 the number of people in the USA.
Not saying 1 in 3 own one. A lot of people own zero, like me (for now). A lot of people own several or many.
About dam time! Still moving to Indiana 🙄
About time!
Even if it just removes restrictions on “scary features” that will reduce the cost of obtaining an AR here in NY by half (more if Legos are not too hard). Be interesting to see if magazine limits are thrown in as well but long time coming (and still way faster than expected post Bruen)
Honestly, at this point I’d be more worried about who lives in NY than what you can or can’t have “legally”.
That chick who won the primary in NY-13, a D+32 district, meaning that without some sort of divine intervention she’s going to Congress is, as the kids would say, “built different” .
She’s an admitted member, and IIRC the actual founder, of Columbia University Apartheid Divest which is interesting in and of itself, but particularly in reference to their alliance with the National Students for Justice in Palestine that openly states that it’s goal is the overthrow of “Western civilization” and the destruction of the United States via “violence”. They openly state their desire to “undermine and eradicate America as we know it”. Which, by the by, ain’t real far off from her own public statements on video.
Or, put bluntly, the Dems are now openly putting up Edward Said style RevComs and those RevComs are winning primaries following exactly the plan laid out by The Blueprint. That’s not an understatement, it’s a plain observation of fact.
Given what at this point I assume to be common knowledge about elections and politics in general, that’s a pretty bad sign against a 4x incumbent.
What will “the Right” do in response? Well if history serves, they will do nothing, just like usual and their inaction will encourage the growth of this cancer.
For obvious reasons not getting too into timing of some things but the various commies displacing commie lite in the NYC region has put some changes in priorities in motion. Realistically watching the local stuff will be the gtfo radar for my region but if there was any thought of maintaining property or permits in NY after we move that is a distant memory. Transferring the 457 is about the last unresolved major issue to figure out. Unless they go full on red army in which case Cowabunga it is.
I usually track what you’re saying, SAFE, but this time 80% of it went over my head.
I got the part about commie replacing commie lite in NYS, and I don’t disagree. So that’s what I’ll talk about.
The thing to be cautious regarding communists is that they won’t be satisfied to just throw you in a prison cell for having what they don’t like (money, land, firearms, a beautiful wife, kids who haven’t been cut yet, faith, an opinion they hate).
They’re using the “language of violence” to establish a reason in their own minds to eliminate you (or to have their hired guns to eliminate you).
Not too long ago, they said “words are violence”, and if you just disagree with them on the slightest of things, then you’re doing violence on them. Just saying something like “men shouldn’t compete against women in boxing”, you’ve done an act of violence against them.
And for doing violence on them, they feel quite well justified to just kill you without even so much as a trial to assess your guilt of said claimed violence.
This is what communists do. They claim that you’ve done violence to them, sometimes even without any proof to support their claim. That’s all they need, is to get people that your mean tweet was an act of violent assault, and that justifies them for killing you.
They’re using the “language of violence” to establish a reason in their own minds to eliminate you…>
Nah, they made that decision 140 years ago. The statements are a justification to others, not themselves. “PR” as it were.
Not too long ago, they said…
I’m not sure why this still needs to be stated but: For these people words are tools to obtain or keep power. Nothing else. Literally nothing else.
They say whatever they need to in the moment to gain or maintain power. That’s it, that’s all there is to it. There’s no mystery past this fact. The fact that they can spit out two contradictory statements back to back is a feature of this way of thinking, not a bug.
No, it’s not hypocritical because the standard doesn’t change.
I am missing several branches of my family tree becauseof their antics. Your assessment isn’t incorrect but it is understated. They don’t stop until there is no one that can threaten their control. Then they move to another society as there is little left with an above room temperature IQ.
I’m not in disagreement with either of you, SAFE and Strych.
He’s always been planning on leaving, but the influx of commie heavy might speed things up.
I think they actually love money, and they feel entitled to yours.
And Dude easily laid out the primary threat. The threats to freedom and life are of course there but post covid I have a pretty clear map of useful idiots and petty tyrants. Now it is a matter of moving wealth (and physical location as needed) beyond their reach. Still have to time things right to not squander what wealth and opportunities I have which in the end is the tricky part. But to other points strych is absolutely correct on it all being power and control. Words are meaningless unless it gets them power which ultimately is why history is meaningless to them and only really useful to us to see the pattern of their behavior and how to rebuild after they are dealt with.
This has been more than 100 years in the making, even if it’s been accelerating recently. And though it’s “only a few,” history is pretty clear on these things. One, it doesn’t take a majority. And two, when it finally goes down, it can happen very quickly.
Yeah, I find this very disturbing.
Never trust a woman with two last names. It was a mistake to nominate DEI Amy. Now America pays the price.
All of her bad decisions are based in emotionalism.
I also think somebody “got to her” and possibly threatened to hurt somebody she loves. And there’s that emotionalism again.
If I was on the SCOTUS, my family would all carry concealed all the time. Even to the bathroom.
I just heard that Mitch McConnell told Trump 1.0 the only way he’d work with him to get judges through was if Trump nominated her. So Mitch got her on. Did he want a pro-life liberal on the court, or was he making favors with someone else?
Whatever the reason, we’re stuck with her now.
That’s interesting. I had not heard anything about “The Turtle” wheeling and dealing for ACB to be on the Court. I know he had a lot of power, but man oh man, is he an evil man. Not even a mastermind; he just had control of all the campaign funding in the Senate.
That’s not surprising.
And it may be moot any day now. I think he probably smells like death now even on a good day. I doubt he ever comes back.
I think he should be removed for medical reasons. He hasn’t voted since June 11th.
Even in my HOA, if you miss 2 or more consecutive board meetings, you can be removed.
Or treat the Congress like any corporation in America. Let them use up their FMLA time and then you can at least stop paying them like what happens to all of us plebs in flyover country. Maybe we could see some senators, representatives, and even Supreme Court justices resigning their offices with disability.
Hey, I just want them gone if they can’t serve in their capacity.
Another one is that diapered Weeble you see wobbling around in un-edited video…Jerry Nadler. Ugh, that dude reportedly creates acid rain with his incontinence.
Why can’t we at least have some kind of similar attendance limits for people in higher office? And maybe a requirement that you don’t regularly shit your pants?
Oops, I meant to say “attendance requirements” in my last paragraph.
thank God.
OK, well, I will await their ruling then, I guess.
Not much else we can do, is there?
We can emote-post on the interwebz…
PICA is a comprehensive ban on firearms, magazines, parts, and accessories that have to be registered in IL unlike other state bans on the just firearms and magazines. The Supreme Court will only address the concerns of this Cook county case and not PICA as a whole for us in IL which is the bigger problem besides the firearm and magazine bans.
And watch the blue states spend 5 more fighting to maintain magazine bans after we win this one. >:/
When SCOTUS agrees to hear a case, it is based on potential graft money rather than legal merit. The latest rulings released are mostly shameful.
ACB will ruin this decision, mark my words
granting cert, thnx your worships…for considering the rights of the peasantry
biggest founder mistake, allowing judicial/legislative clowns to set their own schedule & procedures
If you didn’t have a revolt after the treasonous birthright citizenship ruling.. then they know you will not have a revolt if they rule against us on the second amendment… you cannot trust the Supreme Court..A great betrayal is coming from this court..
That may well happen.
But we have to play this out.