The gun control advocates keep using the phrase “common sense.” It’s a refrain we’ve heard since the 1980s, and is a rather effective “brain hack” used to try and make the speaker seem like their proposals aren’t as radical as might otherwise be believed. However, while gun control advocates might use the phrase “common sense” almost to the point where it seems like a verbal tic, every time they open their mouths they remove all doubt that they don’t have any. Point and case, Jesse Jackson . . .
Anyone who has waded into the debate about the effectiveness of the AR-15 platform inevitably runs into the argument that the 5.56 round is underpowered. Even the AK-47 and its 7.62×39 round is puny compared to the mighty 7.62 NATO used in most hunting rifles. But, apparently when you add the label “assault rifle” to those weapons they become Godlike in power. At least in the minds of the aforementioned gun control advocates.
From the Business Insider:
Rev. Jesse Jackson on Sunday repeated the debunked claim that semi-automatic and so-called assault weapons can “shoot down airplanes” — and added that they can also “blow up railroads.”
“Semi-automatic weapons are not just about gun control, they’re about national security,” Jackson said on Fox News. “You know that these weapons can shoot down airplanes, they can blow up railroads. This is really a whole national security issue.”
In this debate, words matter. Phrases have power. And the scarier you make a gun sound, the more people overestimate its firepower. Even to the point of believing that it can “blow up railroads,” when common sense tells us that’s impossible. Or, at least, no more likely than with any other firearm you could pick up off the rack at your local gun store.
The civilian disarmament advocates don’t care about facts, they only care about emotions. And the more you can scare the American public, the easier it is to legislate based on those fears. That’s what they’re counting on. Which makes efforts like www.takeanewbieshooting.com’s campaign to take as many new shooters to the range as possible even more important. Education is the only way to show exactly how little “common sense” gun control offers.
“Well, that depends on what the meaning of ‘involved’ involved.”
Knowing that every period, comma and apostrophy in the report will be picked over by the tinfoil hat crowd, I’m not surprised that the cops intend to take their own sweet time producing it.
As for the cops delaying the report until 2A has been stomped on in every state posible, I’m not buying that either. Does anybody really expect to discover that Adam Lanza beat 26 people to death with a hammer? No, he shot them, and the weapon he used is irrelevant to the gungrabbers and wingnuts.
OK, I used to in a town just a town or two over from Newtown and worked in a
industrial plant there at one time, Newtown CT has the largest land area of any
town in CT (about 60 sq miles). Theres alot of side roads, and the main drag through town at morning rush and afternoon rush has numerous traffic signals and traffic can be quite bad there.
Not defending the Newtown police but I’d tend to beleive the idea that response time was much longer than has been said, closer to 20 than 3 minutes.
I now live in a rural area in NE Arkansas, on a unpaved farm road, which is off two other unpaved farm roads , its ten miles to the center of town, lots of the big roads are narrow and have drainage dtiches on the two sides, I drive at no more than 40 on these roads at night, and no more 50 mph during the day. distance alone compromises response time here, and I live not in town but in the county, so its a
different LE agency.
when the crap hits fan, don’t count on LE responce time to save your life. As for Newtown school shooting, theres so many questions, so many anomalies, theres been so much “purportedly corrected information” issused long after the event
occured. The truth, theres little “hard verfiable information” specially since the
state and obama slammed the lid on releasing more information.
Unfortunately we live in a time when we can “trust no one”, and the drive by
obama suck up media are the last to be trusted.
Targeting the tools doesn’t change the evil nature of the criminal. All it does is disarm the good and force them to become criminals if they want to protect themselves. The good, who relied on the law before, then lose respect for it. Anarchy might follow.
But this was never about crime control. The ineffectiveness of gun control is evidence enough of that. It’s about people control. It’s about total control.
If the glove doesn’t fit you must aquit./// Jerkson is a has been trying to get back some relevancy. If they want build their case on ghouls & gobblins fine, I’ll stick with reality, Randy
Well then, let’s have a “mythbusters’ moment” here, shall we?
Let’s stand Reverend Jesse out on some railroad tracks with an AR-15 and as much ammo of whatever type he wants.
And then let’s send a train down that track. One of the BNSF 1.3 mile long coal trains around here should work nicely. Once they get up to speed, they’re trundling along at about 55 to 65 MPH.
Jesse gets to shoot at the train as many times as he wants.
I call dibs to set up bleachers and sell tickets for people to see the result.
To heck with the AR-15.
The Rev. can pick any “semi-automatic weapon” he wants – as long as it has been available to a non-military, non-LEO purchaser at any time in the last 100 years.
good luck with national pravda radio
From”Ghostbusters”: Egon to Venkmann”[Jesse] you never studied.”
This race hustler’s time isn’t over yet? What makes people listen him? He’s barely coherent, semi-delusional, and a FVCKING LIAR! His kids a thief, and faking being nutz, you’ll hear from him later, I’m sure. If an AK or AR could bring down a plane, would it have happened already? Now I’m feeding into this Bull. Seems the more absurd the allegation the readily it is believed. But then again Chizzel Minizil has filled his pockets by hypnotizing a good portion of the population with his indecipherable gibberish. And then accuses conservatives of speaking in “code”! Jessey, my man GetTFOOHere. Stinking subversive.
Who else are they going to listen to? Hank Johnson?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNZczIgVXjg
link: http://tunein.com/radio/Talk-of-the-Nation-p16/
Wow, Rob, excellent job. Clear, lucid, effective. Thanks for what you do.
Thanks!
I for one believe Jesse is correct.
After all, Bruce Willis blew up a helicopter with a pistol once.
Bruce Willis brought down a chopper with a car launched using a toll booth as a ramp. He learned that from Chuck Norris. Chuck usually just punches the choppers out of the sky. Bruce wasn’t tough enough for that so Chuck tought him a couple of tricks.
& his son steals money,…… next please
I love Jesse Jackson precisely because he’s such a buffoon. If all wingnuts were equally addled, our rights would be far more secure.
And BTW, an AR-15 can bring down an airplane — from the inside. But then again, so can a snub nosed .38.
………..I was never aware of the power of a 5.56 round; perhaps I should use it instead of a 270 or 308 the next time I go elk hunting. Actually, with the way the “Reverend” is describing it, our military should use it for an anti-tank weapon. Screw depleted uranium and high explosives, we could take on aircraft, tanks, and the the Union Pacific all with our Ar-15s. lol.
You can only kill flying elks with the 5.56, or Elks mounted to train cars.
I’m sorry. I must have fallen asleep when we stopped talking about regulating AR-15s and started talking about regulating Flak 36s. You know something Jesse, I’ll bow to your infinite wisdom. If I need a halftrack to move it and a crew to fire it, you can regulate it all you want.
Don’t chop off any arms.
Unless you really have to.
Mos Eisley? Isn’t that a neighborhood in Chicago?
Chicago was too dangerous for even Jabba to rule, so he moved to New Jersey and became governor.
OUTSTANDING! I only wish the video would have played loner, only to see the expressions on their faces and hear their studderd comments!
Great job Rob. I’ve thought the show has been fair so far, haven’t heard any anti-gun sentiment even implied… The overall message has been very pro self defense, pro responsibility.
Sounded good once you went to a landline.
If the AR-15 is so deadly, how do you explain 6.8mm SPC and the 3-round burst cam?
I vaguely recall learning a squad-level anti-aircraft drill in the army.
– It involved using fully automatic 5.56mm weapons.
– It involved an entire squad firing in concert.
– In terms of effectiveness, it was generally considered one step above bending over and kissing your *ss goodbye.
Piers Morgan went to a Texas gun range for his show on CNN last night (see the review on BOLO Report FB page). If Piers can stand up for his beliefs and match wits with Ted Nugent and others…I have no doubt you will do quite well. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised to see you convinced some folks to join the NRA, purchase a firearm or take an I.C.E. class.
You can’t buy what is not available. NICS stats only work when the market is well supplied.
I’m impressed that there was that many guns to sell more then anything else
Tim, thank you for posting. I used to think I was pro 2nd, but after reading all of the responses to your positions, positions I agree with (other than the atheist thing), I have discovered that I am antigun, anti-American, and in no way worthy to be part of the Best and Brightest. I propose that TTAG start using the acronym SASINO (second amendment supporter in name only) to differentiate the worthies from people like me.
I think the low January Numbers are due to bare shelves. I just contributed to the Feb numbers with an AR lower. Only thing I can find right now and it was hard to find and overpriced too…by about $75.
I really liked when he read Green Eggs and Ham on SNL. So, in essence, everything that comes out of his mouth really is just a joke.
SC permit holders don’t need a NICS check so I’m not counted in those numbers which is a shame 🙂
I hope the unalienable vs inalienable comments don’t count because I want to be one of the “Cool Kids” and be the first to denigrate the Gun Owner since some on TTAG like to bring the hate.
The color of his shirt annoys me.
If there’s nothing to buy, then there’s nothing to check.
BTW, this is one of those times when I’m so happy to have a C&R 03 license. Good C&R guns are out there if you look for them, and I’ve been using my forced savings on ammo to buy some really nice rifles.
Not with the bunch of snakes we put in the Senate. But, I’ll defer to Dan’s judgement and relax……..a little.
I see the trends and how things are going on all fronts in America and I can’t help but be reminded, however cliche, of that bit from 1984.
“If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face — forever. We control life, Winston, at all its levels.”
Just add in “It’s for the common good.” at the end and it’d be perfect.
I admit that growing up seeing Stallone action movies (Rocky II was the first I remember being old enough to see in theaters) I do find his stuff usually fun. I have especially enjoyed the movies in which he takes himself not so serious and obviously has fun with the role. He most always has a bit of camp he has let shine through. It has made him and his movies, for the most part, very entertaining. Not great cinema, not “films”, not Academy winners, but rather just good old fashioned entertainment which, frankly, is what I usually prefer in a movie.
Unfortunately, he, like far too many modern celebrities, is incapable of just STFU. Pre-late 1960s no publicist worth his/her salt would let celebrities say half the stuff they say in public today. I’m not going to see this movie. I’m not going to even watch On Demand or rent it. I’m not seeing it until it is on some station to which I already subscribe. I’m not putting $ in the pockets of someone who publicly says he wants to restrict my 2A rights. Period. Sorry Stallone … I’ve enjoyed the last of your movies on a pay to view basis.
Was at the gun store today. Two of them actually, looking for an IWB holster for my SR9 now that I have my CCW. (Picked it up today!!!)
Only 1 Ar15, and 1 AK47 were for sale at both stores combined. There was no 9mm, not even 1 dollar a round self defense ammo. Both stores despite being smaller than the average living room had half a dozen guys in it even though it was 3 pm on a Tuesday.
Well, total fascist disarmament memes were floated in the same spirit that Main Street Terrorists Lurking Under Your Bed were in 2001: to facilitate the passage of laws that under less hysterical and reactive conditions would not be tolerated. Thus we got the PATRIOT Act (crime against the Fourth Amendment).
A lot can be explained about how antis think by looking at this video about how the brain works. Gun grabbing propaganda relies mostly on Fast Brain activity; protection of RKBA/2a on Slow Brain.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiTz2i4VHFw
Repairing and selling somewhere? I look forward to cheap refurbished Caracals!
How about some compromise? We know what they want. We want all firearms laws since 1791 repealed. So we compromise and only repeal laws passed in the twentieth century and later.
Ok now I know we must refute Jesse No Brain Jackson and say we need anti aircraft weapons now that Obama can have a Drone send a Hellfire missile threw my bedroom window with no law to stop him. LOL
We should buy FIM-92s now LOL
So gun sales are down. BUT its because we bought all the guns up LOL!
I listen to NPR
I’ve had my Neos pistol with 6″ barrel for 4 years now and it is a very reliable and accurate pistol. I put a cheap red dot sight on it and it is a nail driver at 50 yards, even shooting bulk Federal Champion ammo which is my favorite cheap stuff. I have shot over 10,000 rounds through it of all types of ammo from cheap bulk stuff to CCI stingers and it eats all of it without a hiccup. I do get a laugh from the name Neos=New. This pistol is a tarted up copy of the Hi-Standard Dura-Matic .22 I owned in the 60s, right down to the screw wheel attachment of the barrel. The internals of the Neos are identical to the Hi-Standard in every respect. The only difference I can see is that the magazine release on the Hi-Standard was on the left and on the Neos it is on the right. This design is over 60 years old and is a very good design. The Hi-Standard Dura-Matic was the entry level Hi-Standard .22 target pistol of its day (1950s-1960s). The original Hi-Standard Company went out of business in the 1980’s and I assume that either the patents on the pistol expired or Beretta bought the rights to them from whoever succeeded to the patents.
I like it – but I live in CA. So it would be a removal of restriction for me.
If NICS was an open system, I’d absolutely use it if I was selling a gun. In fact, the only reason why I won’t ever sell a gun to a non-FFL, even in a face to face intrastate transaction, is that I don’t trust any buyer who I don’t know personally, and damn well at that.
Until and unless NICS is opened (which will happen in the reign of Queen Dick), I cannot and will not support so-called “universal” background checks. I view so-called universal checks as nothing more than another imposition on 2A and another impediment to gun ownership.
As far as “nonpartisan” action in the House, there’s a bill co-sponsored by Republicans and Democrats to severely punish gun traffickers and straw buyers, with a potential 20 year sentence. Depending on the language of the bill — language is everything — I’ll support it. Anyone who lies for the other guy deserves to go to prison if the other guy uses the gun to commit a crime.
The NRA is studying this proposal. I’ll wait to hear from the NRA and SAF before I draw conclusions.
Your dog looks angry as hell.
Any American citizen who is a ranking member of Al Qaeda is clearly a traitor and should die. That’s not even a legitimate question; Al Qaeda is a well known enemy and they’ve been trying to kill us for a long time.
On the other hand, the question of process does raise disturbing (if remote) implications. Who gets to decide what terrorism is in the long run? Who will the next enemy of the state be?
The thing that scares me is that the current anti-gun movement is only a tiny glimpse into the ugliness of mass hysteria. It’s a slippery slope and we don’t know how far things could go downhill.
Are we terrorists?
No, we’re patriots.
Those who would encroach upon the rights gifted, BY BLOOD, to the American people are terrorists and woe be unto them that infringe upon those rights.
Those who are more concerned with the rights of scum who stream across our borders to murder and violate the rights of our citizens; they are terrorists.
The politicians who have sold their soul to gain more wealth at the expense of the common folk; they are terrorists.
Those who tax the common folk while handing bags of money to the bankers to pay for their mistakes; they are terrorists.
The true terrorists are leading this country. I’ve had enough of following them!
All this becomes pretty irrelevant when 22 LR is selling for 50-60 bucks for the bulk 550 round box that was $11.99 before Christmas 2012. WTF
Wanted also your input on the more specific claims Bragman has here:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/walker-bragman/gun-myths_b_2585941.html
Particularly paying attention to his claim that there’s no real worry with oppressive tyrannical government, as the very existence of bureaucratic bloat insures an internal competitive that keeps them so occupied on themselves they have little time to be peeping in on and controlling us. Or, something to that effect.
It’s Sarah Palin!
Did the wolf spring require any fitting for you?
My comment posted on insidehighered.com:
Mister Kreuter speaks quite a bit about his emotional state and resists using the logical portions of his brain. Carrying a handgun for self defense is not “mutually assured destruction” at all. He claims he “does not fear guns”, yet the entire essay is based around fear. He tries to conceal this fact with stories about hunting, but hunting is not the point of carrying a handgun for self-defense.
He is supposed to be preparing students for the trials of this life, but is unprepared himself. He has created a fantasy world within the walls of academia that bears no resemblance to the world we live in. Mister Kreuter would find a very different world if he would take an honest look at the carrying of handguns. He would learn that violent crime rates go down and that individuals are able to save themselves from criminals. He would also find that every state supreme court has ruled that the state as no obligation to protect anyone and is not liable for crime. He would learn that the police are merely armed men sworn into an office by the state who are not at his beck and call.
Mr. Kreuter should learn to shoot and carry a handgun. He will learn that it is serious business and that people act responsibly with their guns. He will understand over time that it does instill a sort of confidence in one’s abilities. This confidence does not manifest as bravado, but more as a calming effect. People carrying handguns understand the necessity of emotional intelligence and navigating through society without creating problems. In short, he would be one skill closer to being prepared for life in the real world.
BREAKING (back in 2000): Court OKs Barring High IQs For Cops
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=95836&page=1#.Tv-OZSNWplw
And he just said it AGAIN on Fox News tonight (8/8/2016).
… but Sherifff David Clarke just followed Jesse Jackson on Fox and ripped Jackson’s comments to shreds. Got to love Sheriff Clarke!