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No one watches ABC’s ‘The View’ for factual Second Amendment news. But the gaggle of progressive television hosts got plenty wrong during a conversation about Second Amendment rights and recent criminal shootings perpetrated by people breaking the law.

The hosts are known for their extreme gun restriction beliefs. This particular discussion included Joy Behar bloviating about how the U.S. Supreme Court was “poised to pass a bill” that would force New York to “be an open carry state, and an open carry city,” among other nonsense.

The show’s conservative guest host, former Director of Strategic Communications for The White House for President Donald Trump Alyssa Farah, took the bait when it was suggested that no American needs an AR-15.

The hosts could use a Civics 101 lesson.

Rights, Not Needs

‘The View’ hosts pushed partisan politics and gun control before the facts were known after a disturbed criminal attacked New York City subway commuters and injured at least 23.

Joy Behar  (Photo by Dario Cantatore/Invision/AP)

The group decried Republicans for exposing soft-on-crime prosecutors as part of the problem. Behar blamed Republican governors for making it “easier” to get a firearm. She meant Republican governors in AlabamaIndiana and Georgia who all signed legislation enacting permitless carry, or Constitutional Carry.

The laws in those states don’t “make it easier” to get guns. The laws mean only that if a law-abiding American passes a National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) verification, they can legally carry a firearm without having to pay for a state permit to exercise their fundamental right to bear arms. There are 25 states in this group.

Host Sunny Hostin questioned Farah. “Would you agree and concede that no one needs an AR-15 or, uh, an assault-style weapon….because hunters, if you’re a good hunter I don’t think you need to use that to shoot a deer,” she asked.

“So, yes,” Farah answered. She added that people often misunderstand firearms because of what they look like, not how they function.

The answer should have been “No!” Full stop. Not because of anything having to do with hunting. Not because they are supposedly “assault-style weapons,” – they aren’t. Not because Hostin thinks firearm ownership is about a “need.” The answer is “No” because it is a fundamental right of law-abiding Americans.

The first 10 amendments to the Constitution were deemed the Bill of Rights. Not the Bill of Needs.

America’s Rifle

The AR-15, or modern sporting rifle (MSR), is the most popular-selling semiautomatic centerfire rifle in America. The AR stands for ArmaLite Rifle, the name of the company that developed the design back in the 1950s, not “assault rifle” as gun control groups or talking heads like Hostin falsely repeat.

These rifles use the same one-trigger-pull, one-fire technology that was developed in the late-nineteenth century and is still commonly utilized in handguns and shotguns.

Feral hog hunting hunt ar-15 MSR caliber
(Courtesy Kat Ainsworth Stevens)

Modern sporting rifles have been commercially sold since the early 1960s and are available to law-abiding citizens who pass a NICS check. They only bear a similar appearance to the military’s M-16 or M-4 automatic rifles. Automatic rifles have been severely restricted from civilian ownership since 1934 and haven’t been commercially made since 1986.

Throughout the coronavirus pandemic, firearm sales in America reached record highs with NSSF industry retailer data showing more than 21 million background checks for a firearm sale in 2020 and more than 18.5 million in 2021. That includes more than 14 million first-time firearm buyers between 2020 and 2021.

Self-defense was one of the top reasons given when first-time purchasers were asked about why they bought a firearm. Given its versatility, affordability, accuracy and reliability, the MSR has always been a favorite choice for that category of buyer. Since 1990, estimates are there are well over 20 million MSRs in circulation today.

NBC News examined why so many Americans purchased MSRs throughout the pandemic and 26-year-old mom Megan Hill explained her decision.

“We looked at the AR-15, and it was all in one package,” Hill said. “You can target-shoot with it, protect yourself with it, hunt with it. Luckily we haven’t had to use it in self-defense, but it’s a comfort knowing that it’s there to protect my children and my family.”

An Empowering Right

Hostin is no stranger to absurd statements about firearms. She’s bemoaned Americans like Megan Hill and millions more who own MSRs, saying she feels like “a hostage.” She loathed that her friends and family were buying firearms. She even sat and listened as previous guest host Sherri Shephard explained why she decided to purchase a firearm.

“I felt very empowered when I bought this gun. I took lessons. I took the test. I go to the range with my girlfriends like every other week, and it just makes me feel like at least if something happens, I can protect my child,” Shephard said. “I don’t know why you’re laughing.”

Women accounted for more than 40 percent of all firearm purchases over the past two years and African-American women have been the fastest-growing demographic segment of all. The number one reason has been for protection of their families and children.

Americans aren’t taking their advice from television talk show hosts. They’re standing on the Constitution when it comes to their rights, including their right to own MSRs. Support for gun control is tanking as gun ownership is rising. They’re keeping it up today, not because of a need, but because it’s their right to do so.

 

Larry Keane is SVP for Government and Public Affairs, Assistant Secretary and General Counsel of the National Shooting Sports Foundation.

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75 COMMENTS

  1. #1- How many people actually watch that drivel, people with their own minds, I mean!?
    #2- Never pass up a chance to keep the uninformed scared and locked down i.e. COVID!

    • The pompous bondo faced members of the-view assume they hold all the cards and can look down their noses at The 2A. What they obviously do not know is history confirms their sanctimonious Gun Control is an agenda rooted in racism and genocide. The Truth About Gun Control makes the-view nothing more than useful idiots carrying the water of racists and nazis.
      Bottom line…the-view can take their Gun Control rot and go pound sand.

  2. Joy Behar receives $7 million a year for shilling Democrat policies on The View. I would say that it is important to her financial well-being to be the very best liar that money can afford….otherwise she will be replaced with a younger, more currently credible shrill shill.

    • Have you seen most leftist and Hollywood talent (only a bit redundant) lately? They have to keep recycling the same actors to keep things moving. At the rate things are going they may have out of relevance by the end of the decade as tictoc YouTube and Instagram personalities finish off most of legacy media.

    • Why not both? I don’t expect either ‘extreme’ and honestly shall issue and/or removing the permit to buy/own a pistol in NY state or anything in NY city would be huge. Anything in addition would make mainstream media entertaining enough to watch in small doses.

    • Still crying for SCOTUS, rather than working relentlessly to culture-flip downstate-NY into being pro-2A?

      Overreliance on federal force can lead to federalization of gun restrictions. And remember that although Roberts questioned the concept of licensing, he wasn’t entirely averse to licensing in itself (“there’s licensing and then there’s licensing”). And the same people who forever shout about ccw-reciprocity by federal statute can easily have their heads spin when such a law can get struck down on 10A grounds.

      NY’ers need to stop screaming for a bigger bully to beat up their current bully.

      • Cool story now explain how having the Fed do it’s intended purpose of defending the bill of rights in it’s incorporation against unconstitutional state infringements so we can even begin to make headway in your suggestion is a bad idea.

        • *Solely relying on them* to do such is the bad idea. That should be obvious to anyone, NY’er or otherwise.

      • Then why the ire to begin with as we are obviously doing what groundwork is possible as evidenced by multiple supreme court challenges, expanding memberships in relevant gun rights organizations local and national, and huge increases in numbers of new gun owners? Ultimately the numbers game is against us so we as well as other states will need more on the litigation end than others to restore basic liberties.

      • how’s about dumping ALL laws that restrict MY rightto BEAR those arms they so grudgingly “allow” me to keep? Keep and bear, together mean I can have, make, own buy sell repair, destroy at MY will any “arm” I deem appropriate, and take or carry that arm anywhere for any reason or no reason at all. Don’t forget the woring is “the right OF THE POEPLE (that means the individual person, in plural form, meaning everyone) to keep and bear SHALL NOT be infrnoged. By anyone, any entity government corporate or private.

      • 1) As SAFE says, using the court as intended to protect constitutionally guaranteed rights is not “screaming for a bigger bully to beat up their current bully.”

        2) @Mark: Why are you looking for ways to lose on this issue instead of ways to win? The left means to turn this country into something unrecognizable; the time to fight back is now, with whatever tools are available.

        • You’re advocating that we neuter, or even give up one of our most powerful tools for protecting individual 2A rights, the courts. Instead, you advocate that NYers attempt to “culturally flip” the opinion of downstate residents, the idea being that this would eventually make it possible for the state legislature to advance new laws to protect the 2A or repeal old ones that restrict it.

          Do you live in NY? I lived there for most of my life. I finally made the incredibly difficult (but not really) decision to GET OUT just this past year. I can assure you, the culture of NY is monolithically progressive left, especially in NYC which utterly dominates NY politics – and therefore NY law.

          Majority voters in NY – and there a LOT of them – are not persuadable, center-left types who own a few guns and could be convinced that there should be fewer restrictions. Yes, there are some like this in the upstate areas. They DON’T MATTER. There are NOT ENOUGH OF THEM TO MATTER. They are vastly outnumbered by people who HATE the 2A with religious fervor, people who didn’t like Andrew Cuomo (and eventually found a way to get rid of him) because he was TOO MODERATE. Let that sink in: the SAFE act, 10 round capacity limits, assault rifle bans, “will deny” pistol permitting, and all the rest are TOO MODERATE. These are people who think AOC makes coherent sense, enthusiastically vote for her, and, yes, would want to date her/them/it/whatever. You try telling these people to give the 2A a second look. Let me know how it goes.

          An example? Here’s one. I was once earnestly told by a friendly, well-meaning NY colleague that he would happily deprive Floridians, Texans, and West Virginians of the vote because he didn’t want “those people” having any say over how his kids were educated. He didn’t even stop to think about it. He was happy with the idea of disenfranchising half the country to get his way. This is not an exaggeration; this conversation ACTUALLY HAPPENED. It was NORMAL.

          Want another? I attended a talk presented by a colleague on the topic of “gun culture.” This was a serious piece of social science research. It boiled gun culture down to one thing: wild-eyed, back woods, racist preppers. Applause and enthusiasm! All the “right people” in the crowd slept great that night, knowing that their most malignant biases about 2A advocates had been confirmed by science.

          Anyway…

          You are welcome to wield the “Butter Knife of Culture Flipping” (+2 against socialists) to see where it gets you. Me, I’ll stick to the courts. I would much rather FORCE leftists to obey the constitution than try to persuade them.

    • SCOTUS’ job would actually be to mandate all laws restricting ANY variety of carry be held unConstitutional, because they ARE!!! Read it. 27 words. CANNOT be “misunderstood”!!!

      • LarryinTX SCOTUS did ruling that “all laws restricting ANY variety of carry be held unConstitutional would be extremely unlikely.

  3. Putting these clowns up as though they are speaking for woman-kind does a great disservice to the female gender. Far greater than even the most vulgar pornography.

    People like to say chauvinism, racism, sexism, any-ism is learned. I say they’re right. We’re all learning a lot.

  4. The Left will never be satisfied until we are all disarmed. I know dacian the Dunderhead never will. He thinks we should all carry our guns with trigger locks on them that can be “taken off in less than a second”.

  5. I for one am tired of thoughtless people who freely and openly bash our United States, our Constitution and the genius of our forefathers. We the people/citizens all have the right to initiate recommendations for changing the Rule of Law by amending the Constitution through Article 5, et al. The other choice is to leave this country and do what you want. None of us has the right to force their will or views on everyone. Be civil, be fair and be willing to listen. There is no room for bullies.

    However, today there seems to be a minority element of the population in this Constitutional Republic with an attitude that is unhealthy, unsafe and unamerican. WE are a complex society with all the tools necessary to uphold everyone’s right to freedom, justice and dignity without prejudice. That is what we stand to defend as Americans.

    Who does Bahar think she is?

  6. I would thank you if you were to remove Behar’s butt-ugly puss from this article. I usually only have to swallow my lunch once.

  7. Someone please help me out with clarification, as I’m a bit confused with the author’s statement that suggests the current group of 25 States with permitless/constitutional carry require you to pass a NICS check before exercising your right:

    “The laws mean only that if a law-abiding American passes a National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) verification, they can legally carry a firearm without having to pay for a state permit to exercise their fundamental right to bear arms. There are 25 states in this group.”

    I wasn’t aware that any of those States require anyone to first pass an unconstitutional NICS check before exercising their constitutional right.

    • Speaking of unconstitutional, how’s your CC permit coming, Haz? You talk about ‘fighting for freedoms’, and then happily grovel to your local sheriff in the hopes he’ll confer upon you the ability to exercise your god given right. You’re part of the problem 🖕🤡.

      • You still haven’t answered the question of which State you reside in. For all we know, you’re in one of the worst States/Counties yourself and have none of the “freedoms” you lie about.

        • How am I ‘lying’ about freedoms? I don’t give a f*%k what state I’m in, because I’m going to concealed carry, and I’m going to pull it off. But I share time between OH and FL, and retain FL citizenship for reasons I won’t bother explaining to a wage donkey like you 🖕🤡.

        • LOL, that was much easier to knock you off balance than I expected it would be. You’re slipping, Hail. I put out the bait, and you went right for it.

          Now you’re my monkey, and you’re dancing on command. Just like Geoff said you would. 🙂

      • Hey, nameless, brainless, d***less troll!!! So now you’re trying to pass yourself off as a gun owner AND a “rebel” that carries despite the law!! “Bold strategy, Cotton. Let’s see if it works out for him!”

        Troll, you haven’t ever even FIRED a freakin’ gun, let alone own one. And while I support the right of every non-incarcerated American to “keep and bear arms”, but I can say that knowing that you’re a poseur, and never owned or fired a gun, gives me a measure of comfort; your’re too damn stupid to own a gun.

    • meaning, once you’ve been deemed able to purchase a gat, you need be subjected to no further hindrance in carrying it about.
      gotta have one to bring it.

      • The increasing proliferation of 80% PMFs would throw a wrench into that logic. As well as any legal private sale that’s off the books in those States. Or inheritance. Etc.

    • I Haz a Question,

      Some states require firearm purchasers to pass a background check even if they have a concealed carry license. Somewhat similar, the federal government requires firearm purchasers in some states to pass a background check even if they have a concealed carry license. (Both previous comments with respect to purchasing from a Federal Firearms Licensee. Private purchases may be different.)

      Of course in some states you can purchase firearms from Federal Firearm Licensees with your concealed carry license satisfying your state and federal background check requirement.

    • Unless a legal private sale, or an inheritance, you have to pass a NICS check to buy a firearm. Having a legally procured/possessed firearm is a prerequisite to legal constitutional carry, as the federal disqualification of felons, certain mentally ill, and the underage still applies in those 25 states.

      • I have close to a dozen handguns, all but one legally off the grid for one reason or another (PMF, inheritance, private transfer, all back before those methods were closed off) except one. I legally acquired them with no NICS or BGC, and may carry them in those 25 States.

        The author has omitted a large population of POTG who can claim the same. I’m simply pointing out that his statement is incomplete and assumptive.

        • Oooooo, you have close to a DOZEN handguns?!?! Lol I have more than that stashed around the room I currently happen to be sitting in. I’m beginning to think you’re just another liberal fairy who likes to troll true POTG.

        • Because, if that is true you are a fruitcake, likely psychotic and probably dangerous. Which is my gentle way of calling you a liar. You do NOT have a dozen guns stashed around your Mom’s basement.

        • nameless, brainless, d***less troll, you’ve never owned or fired an actual firearm in your sorry life. And the only person “trolling” around here is you, d***less troll. Go occupy yourself with your afternoon circle jerk; dacian the stupid and MinorIQ are waiting for their fellow Leftist/fascist (if nothing else, to laugh at your deformity).

    • most (but not yet all) states mandate the NICS gig as a precondition to BUYING a firearm but onece yuo own it yu may carry it conealed without the formerly required Mother May I Card in 25 of the 50 states

  8. “Automatic rifles have been severely restricted from civilian ownership since 1934 and haven’t been commercially made since 1986.”

    This statement is wrong. Automatic rifles may have been restricted from civilian ownership and any new rifles are not able to get a stamp, but they are still made, new models coming up every year. They are not commercially available in the US, but they are made still.

    • That comes across as worse as the one restricting commercial sale and availability has access to current production unavailable to citizens.

    • It would be more accurate to say “not legally manufactured for sale to or possession by regular citizens.” LEO can obviously still purchase them irrespective of the date of manufacture.

  9. The only episodes of The View that ever worth watching were the ones with Norm MacDonald trolling them into a frenzy.

  10. The left only has one desire when it comes to guns and gun ownership in the United States: the literal compete and total ban of all gun ownership within the mandated turn in of all guns followed by the confiscation of all firearms still in circulation by using the full force of the United States military to go door to door to not just confiscate them but kill gun owners. Because not only do they want the complete and total ban of all private gun gun ownership they want nothing less than the government mandated total extermination of every single solitary United States citizen that owns a gun. All of us. Even if that has to include the killing of not just every single gun owner in the United States but the killing of every single solitary person in the United States citizen in a home with a gun in it. Along with the killing of the entire population of the United States that opposes that and them. I’m taking the full deployment if the United States military (Whose leadership fully supports the total extermination of all gun owners in the United States) as well as weaponization and deployment of all federal agencies to kill all of the above and do things like opening fire on any protests, Hunting down the survivors that get away and killing them in anyone in their home. With door to door rounding up and execution of all suspected sympathizers. As well as the total extermination of every single person that is against that. Not just the killing of every gun owners and person in a home with a gun but mandating the literal complete and total extermination of all human life in the United States that opposes any of that even if it means having to kill literally every single solitary human being in the United States except for democrat party members and fellow far left elites.

    And if you don’t believe this is their ultimate goal than you’re as crazy as I sound.

      • REALLY??? I would have thought that the sound of fur-lined tweezers would be too faint to hear that far away. I may find it necessary to afford him a modicum of respect, if he can accomplish that. Nah, fuggedaboutit, he’s too useless to respect even if he is an accomplished onanist.

    • No, it smells worse. EASY to tell them apart, if your nose isn’t plugged up. As the blind man said when he walked past the dumpster outside a fish market on a hot day, “Hello, ladies!” I can smell “Joy” Behar through the TV if I’m ever unfortunate enough to scroll through the channels while they’re on.

  11. The Second Amendment states “ARMS”, which are “Military Weaponry” and have been for hundreds of years. I would even go so far as to say that Fowling Pieces and Hunting Rifles are not “ARMS” and therefore NOT protected by the Second Amendment (except for those adopted by the US military) and can be rounded up at any time and for any reason or for no reason, by any government subdivision.

    • That would be true, except for the government infringement on our right to keep and bear arms. Since the government is EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED from doing that, their making decisions based on ethereal concepts of “military weaponry” falls far outside any authorization under the Constitution. The result of attempting to justify plain and simple tyranny by such deceit posing as simple stupidity, should be a firing squad.

    • “arms” means weapons of military USEFULNESS< not necessarily military design or issue.
      Standard shotguns were issued in certain situations to military. Same with al manner of other guns in comomon civilian use. In [oint of fact the War for Independence was fought almsot excusinvely wit weapons individually owned as personal weapons for whatever use suited the citizen using it. How many ilitary pesonnel, at the close of the Second German War brought back the very M 1903 Springfield bolt action military issue rifle they had carried in the war? Many made their own custom sporting stock, swapping the military action and barrel from the clunky ugly military issue stocks for their homemade often very pretty custom stock. then went out ahd huted deer wiht that same rifle. When I was a kid by far the single most common deer rifle was exactly what I described above. Several uncles and cousoins had them, and regularly took deer, bear, elk, sheep, with them for family food. One could buy bringback M1903 Spfld rifles for well under ifty bucks, very little wear on the working parts. Wish I'd bought a pallet of them back then!! Or Garands.

      Most tates you could not HUNT with the garand because of its eight round en bloc clip. Most states limited mag capacity to five rounds for all hunting. I've known folks with 6.2 Italina Carcano, 8mm Lebel (French), 6.5 Swede, 7.5 Schmidt Rubin Swiss, 6.2 and 7.5 mm Aridsaka, .303 British Enfield and BSA, 8mm and 7.5 mm German Mauser, military rifles, mostly restocked for lighter weight and better fit for average Yank hunters. All ilitary rifles taken off the field and used in daily civilian activities. As a kid I could have walked into many gunstores andhardware stores and purchased any of these for well under fifty bucks, and a buckabox for any of the milsurp ammo to feed them. I have some of these rifles mentioend above, originalcondition, and they are all excellent (not so much the 6.2 Arisaka)

      • While working with the National Matches, I became aware of Garand clips made for differing numbers of rounds, including demo of several. Quite amazing and probably with limited availability, still they do exist, 2 rounds, 3 rounds, 5 rounds, for the specific reasons you point out, so that you can still use the rifle to hunt, even if your state has passed unconstitutional laws.

  12. Any time someone tries to claim that, “you don’t need an AR-15,” calmly reply that the people of Ukraine did not “need” AR-15s either–until they did. Right up to the very day before the Russians invaded, the Ukrainian people did not “need” AR-15s and the Ukrainian people did not think that they needed AR-15s. Think about how much different the situation in Ukraine would be right now if almost every able-bodied male and female had an AR-15 rifle and 1,000 rounds of ammunition and put them to use on the very first day–and every day thereafter–as Russia invaded.

    The very core problem of making something subject to a “need” requirement is that it is often impossible to predict when you will truly need something. Thus the saying, “better to have and not need than to need and not have.” Note that Ukrainians can attest to the veracity of both of these truths.

    • The problem with your analogy is that Ukraine doesn’t have a 2A, and we don’t have neighbors that will send invading armies of soldiers across the border.

      • well, not yet “armies” of armed and equipped soldiers. Yet. But Germany never did send near as many troops into the countries they invaded as we have had swarm accross our sothern border from Mexico.

      • Mark N.,

        The fact that Ukraine’s constitution fails to codify our inalienable right to self-defense is not an element of my illustration how people truly need firearms for effective self-defense.

        As for Canada or Mexico not sending invading armies of soldiers across our border, that could change at any time. And why limit our consideration to Canada and Mexico? What stops any foreign nation from sending thousands of armed soldiers to our nation’s shores–or even our borders through Canada or Mexico?

        Finally, along the same vein, we already have precedent where municipalities and/or states ordered their police and national guard to stand down and allow violent mobs to loot, burn, and destroy on a large scale. That could repeat at any time–and repeat for domestic mobs or even for foreign invaders.

        And before you poo-poo the notion of our Commander in Chief ordering our military to stand down, take a moment to imagine how a foreign nation could entice and/or coerce our government to stand down. Enticements could involve cash gifts of billions of dollars and non-extradition. Coercion could include credible promises to a$$a$$inate U.S. politicians and their families–or even widespread murder of our populace through “scorched earth” practices.

        All of this highlights the unpredictable nature of life and how firearms are an insurance policy of sorts if the unthinkable comes to pass.

  13. I have neither the time nor the inclination to argue gun rights to anyone. My attitude anymore is there’s nothing more you can say. Either you believe in gun rights or you don’t. If you don’t, FOAD!

    As far as that TV show, I never watch it because for one, Joy Behar makes me want to vomit. It’s almost as bad as watching Biden. It’s a train wreck every time and makes me cringe.

    • I used to love her, but today I could say the same about Whoopie Goldberg. Excessively proud to advocate completely idiotic positions, and then aggressively belligerent when pointed out as a fool. Disgusting.

      • My comment as originally drafted addressed Whoppie but I opted to delete it and not use any of it. Suffice to say it wasn’t flattering of her. That entire show is such a joke. Joy one time was on a tangent about nobody needing guns and said that she was such a “KLUTZ that she’d probably shoot herself in the foot” So she projects that she’s a retardo-klutz thus everybody else must be as big of a klutz also. I swear she makes me want to puke. She’d be fun to be married to just so I’d have someone to smack around daily….hourly.

  14. When did the SCOTUS become a legislative body? Because unless something has changed, the Court has never, and does not pass legislation. Only rule on the legality of laws as written.
    And, no case before the Court has anything to do with permit less carry at this time.
    Next is the foolishness of how somehow not being required to purchase a permit to carry is going to make a firearm easier to purchase. Purchase requirements have not changed in any of the half of the country that has gone permit less carry. Just the tax and approval of a bureaucrat has been dropped.
    Something I’ve questioned for years. Why do those who are least effected by gun control restrictions the most vocal in favor of such laws? People like the dingbats on the View are wealthy enough to live in well secured condo’s, walled and secured estates, or expensive, secured and guarded apartment complexes. Usually with armed private security, or police escorts and security details provided at taxpayer expense. They demand armed protection, but the rest of us are just SOL and on our own.

    • It’s called “abrogation”. Congress has willingly given its authority over to alphabet-letter agencies to make rules and regs on Congress’ behalf, so the congresscritters can spend more time raising funds for their next election.

      It’s similar to how the Parents of a household might have actual authority over the property (being owners of title and such), but they choose to attend parties at others’ houses, so they tell their teenagers to watch over things on their behalf while the parents are absent.

  15. quote: “no one needs an AR-15 or, uh, an assault-style weapon….because hunters, if you’re a good hunter I don’t think you need to use that to shoot a deer,””

    SUMBUDDY tell this flaming incompetent Sonny that no state allows the use of an AR pattern rifle, or any other, that fires the .223/5.56 round for the taking of deer/WHY? The round is not powrful enough to reliably tak any game larger than a coypte. WHY? The standard AR rifle cartridge is simply TOO FEEBLE to be allowed for taking of deer.

    • Sorry, Tionico, but you’re dead wrong. I wouldn’t advocate it, but using a .223 is legal in several states (Montana, Mississippi, Nebraska, Oklahoma and Maryland, to name just a few). If we’re going to bust the chops of the gun-grabbers for putting out BS, we should be careful not to do the same. .223 isn’t a great hunting caliber for anything but varmints, but . . . it is legal for deer in many states. I held off buying an AR-15 for years, just because I think it’s a s*** caliber, but . . . the ammunition is ubiquitous, so now I own two. I prefer my .308, thank you.

  16. “…….it was suggested that no American NEEDs an AR-15.” Guess I have V1.0 of the Second Amendment. No “need” clause in it, only “…shall not be infringed.” However, were there a “need” stipulation in the 2A, the fact that government has…….full-auto, shorty shotys/rifles, suppressors, et el…….is full justification for my need. That is all. Class dismissed.

  17. This is a great Blog. Lots of folks with common sense mixed with a few misguided fools. Common sense TRUMPS fools!

    I support efforts to elect folks that really understand our Constitutional Republic, the history of a great nation that opens its doors and heart to all people who want to experience freedom and has a long history of working together to “Keep America Great”. In my mind America is a place where “We the People” strive for truth, honesty, fairness and justice for all. The road traveled to this point in our nation’s history is long and crooked, as in not straight. I’m proud join the healthy debate on this blog.

    What is puzzling to me is how we have rather suddenly devolved into a place of injustice, hate, anti-freedom and a reckless abandon to destroy our way of life. We have fallen from that “shining light on the hill”, recognized by President Ronald Reagan and many others. By the way it represents the best place to live in this world.

    Hate, disrespect, lawlessness everywhere we turn. It is spreading like wildfire all over this crazy world we all share. Things are insane. Why when we own control?

    If I could influence fellow American’s, it would be to pause and contemplate our current environment, before the next election, and challenge those running to represent us, not those who believe they are in charge, to recognize their responsibility to all of us as a first priority and to get us back on track to strengthen the laws and beliefs Americans share. The folks we put in office must be disciplined and required to reconstitute America.

    The buffoons we watch and listen too on television are twisting and turning the American Dream into a living hell. They have no power over us.

    Restore schools to educational purpose, not reprogramming, set the anchor.

    Recognize normal from abnormal by enforcing our laws, not creating loopholes.

    Remove the bad laws and resurrect laws based on our Constitutional constructs.

    Invoke the V Amendment and fix what needs fixing.

    Mandate accountability for all who break the law.

    Establish the power to remove those who are disrupting our American principals.

    Reconstruct the rules for citizenship and entry across our borders, recreate border control.

    Don’t vote for someone you don’t know. Find out who they represent, what and why.

    Above all control your right to self-defense, this is key. Recognize the real weapons that endanger you. I suggest those who seek power and control bear considerable trepidation and attention.

    I know no greater weapon than the power of lies and intimidation, they are crippling and deadly.

    I am an old, retired guy who has lots of time to ponder our current predicament and I fear that those leading this country are steering us to the same fate of the great Roman Empire. It makes no matter what political party or their ambitions. “We the People” are in control unless we relinquish that control. Thanks for reading my ramblings and the patience to consider where this American thinks we stand.

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