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Accessory maker Troy Industries has had quite the week PR-wise. First they announced (since removed from their web site) the hiring of former Chicago police commissioner Jody Weis by their subsidiary, Troy Asymmetric. Yes, Troy intended to add an anti-RKBA Daly administration lackey who lost the confidence of his own department to their staff as an instructor. As John Boch at gunssavelife.com reports, after first claiming that Troy Asymmetric was a separate company, Troy dropped that ruse and tossed the newly-hired Mr. Weis under the bus . . .

Troy Industries is a strong supporter of the Second Amendment. In recent months, we have been more vocal about our beliefs, choosing to align ourselves with companies and individuals who are like-minded.

In response to the reaction of our customer base, Jody Weis will not be joining the Troy Asymmetric cadre of instructors.

We value the thoughts and concerns of our loyal customers. Troy Industries and its affiliated companies are strong supporters of the Second Amendment and will continue to promote this right through our products, statements, actions and affiliations.

Thank you

Allyson Ranelli
Troy Industries, Inc
151A Capital Dr
West Springfield, MA 01089
413-788-4288 x116 Office
413-788-4610 Fax
aranelli@troyind.com

www.troyind.com

But the attention drawn by Weis’s abortive hiring drew scrutiny to Troy Asymmetric that’s turned up another eyebrow-raising staffer. In the grand tradition of HS Precision’s hiring of Ruby Ridge sniper Lon Horiuchi as a spokesman, it turns out Troy Asymmetric had pretty much the same idea. The following was published at gunssavelife.com and is reprinted here with permission:

Troy Industries really stepped hip deep in the kimchee with their hiring of Jody Weis as an instructor in their training division, Troy Assymetric.

Today, a day after Guns Save Life shared their new hire announcement of Weis with gun owners throughout the nation, Troy now claims Weis won’t be joining them after all.

Irrespective of their nuanced announcement – we can’t believe they would trumpet their excitement about bringing Jody Weis on board as an instructor if it wasn’t a done deal – we’re glad he’s gone and pleased we had a hand in wrecking his new job in the private sector.

One of our regular readers did some digging of his own and did a little research on another new member (at least until tomorrow?) of the Troy Assymetric staff.  Dale R. Monroe.

Yeah, that name didn’t sound familiar to us right away, but it did to our reader Kevin.

We are pleased to announce the appointment of Dale Monroe to our Troy Asymmetric Cadre of Instructors.  Dale brings nearly three decades of experience in the areas of SWAT, Incident Response, Tactical Training and Investigation to Troy.

Having previously served as the Tactical Commander/SWAT Senior Team Leader in the Los Angeles FBI Bureau, Dale also gleaned experience from his time in the Phoenix, Arizona and Quantico, Virginia Offices.  Highlights of his tenure include his oversight of the FBI’s Crisis Response/Tactical participation in two National level WMD exercises and coordinating their associated multi-million dollar budgets, and assisting in security coordination efforts for the 2002 Salt Lake City Olympic Games.  Perhaps most notably, Dale served as a Hostage Rescue Team (HRT) Tactical Operator on the nation’s only federal civilian counter-terrorism response team.

He holds degrees from both Hillsdale College and the University of Arizona as well as a certificate from the Naval Aviation Flight Training School in Pensacola, Florida.  In addition, Mr. Monroe served in the United States Marine Corps where he was deployed in two Western Pacific Tours.

To contact Dale or our other world-class instructors, call 413-788-4213 or use our contact form found here.

His bio at Troy was impressive but left out one huge aspect of Monroe’s career. In reality, perhaps most notably Dale Monroe was Lon Horiuchi’s partner at Ruby Ridge. Remember Ruby Ridge?

FBI snipers Lon Horiuchi and Dale Monroe tried to kill these men. Judge, jury and executioner. And Horiuchi just “accidentally” murdered Vicky Weaver. And Dale Monroe said he was ready to take that same shot but Horiuchi fired first. What a couple of shining examples of courage and bravery, right?  Shooting down a woman armed with nothing but an infant in her arms.

NOT!

Horiuchi and Monroe tried to kill two men who were ultimately acquitted of wrongdoing, except for some minor charges against Randy Weaver. What happened to Horiuchi? A bunch of nothing, sadly. He should have met a rope the next morning, or life in prison, but he was from the anointed class of elites. Randy Weaver eventually won a $3 million judgement against the government but that won’t bring back his wife.

Ruby Ridge Snipers Defend Their Actions in Front of Senate Panel

(LA Times via The Tech – Sept. 15, 1995) – FBI snipers Thursday defended their actions at the 1992 Ruby Ridge siege where a white separatist’s wife was killed, contending that danger to an FBI observation helicopter from armed men outside the separatist’s cabin justified opening fire.

But skeptical senators questioned whether permissive shoot-to-kill orders and exaggerated information about the threat of Randy Weaver led to an overreaction.

Dale R. Monroe, the partner of FBI hostage rescue team leader Lon Horiuchi – who fired the fatal shot – said he was preparing to fire but didn’t only because Horiuchi fired first.

Horiuchi invoked his Fifth Amendment protection against self-incrimination Tuesday after the Senate Judiciary subcommittee on terrorism refused to give him limited immunity from prosecution.

Lon Horiuchi executed Randy Weaver’s wife as she held a newborn baby during the Ruby Ridge siege.  And Dale Monroe was right there by his side ready to take that same shot. In a battle of scumbags, I’m not sure which is worse, Jody Weis or Dale Monroe. What is it with Troy Industries of late? Is that Massachusetts water getting to them, or what?

In any event, it’s up to gun owners to make an informed decision if they want to do business with a company that hired Horiuchi’s partner from Ruby Ridge.  A partner that said he would have taken that same shot except Horiuchi fired first.

UPDATE

Hot off the presses from the Troy Industries Facebook page.

We thank everyone for their opinions on Dale Monroe. We are still reviewing Mr. Monroe’s relationship with Troy Asymmetric and are looking in to the claims that are being made online.

We have reviewed the 1995 Ruby Ridge Congressional testimony and found at 1:42:35 of the taping, it is indeed Ed Wenger who says he would have shot, had Special Agent Horiuchi not shot first. http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/67153-1

The attribution of the statement on gunssavelife.com to Mr. Monroe is incorrect. After reviewing the testimony, we are confident that you, too, will find that it is indeed Wenger that made the statement, not Monroe.

Monroe was an FBI HRT member assigned a mission which turned tragic. We are saddened by the events at Ruby Ridge and recognize the significance of the tragedy. If you’ve never worn a uniform, you might not understand why Monroe was in the situation he was in, but if you have worn a uniform, you know how it is to follow orders in a fluid situation.

We’re weighing a difficult decision with many facets and things to consider. One thing we know for sure: Mr. Monroe did not state that he would have fired first. We do hope you will take the time to review all of the available materials on Ruby Ridge and Dale Monroe, and welcome your comments, as they will most certainly help us to reach a final, informed decision.

We stand by our initial report as it cited a report initially published by the LA Times and picked up on the wire services by the MIT student newspaper, The Tech.

Here’s a .pdf of the hard-copy version.

UPDATE #2

At 1:03:30 in the video at the link, Dale Monroe believes both shots were justified.

At 2:16:50 in the video, Dale Monroe says he would have taken the shot if he would had the ability to take an accurate shot at the time.

Mr. Troy, throughout this entire mess, you folks have been hiding and obfuscating.  You deserve kudos for canning Mr. Weis in a timely manner, although your initial statement was less than clear.

Then the issue of Mr. Monroe popped up and you deleted his page from your website, then the entire instructor roster (who else are you hiding on the payroll over at Troy Assymetric?).  You wait until the end of business then release a link to this video you claim exonerates your man.

“Just following orders” is no excuse, Mr. Troy Industries. Lon Horiuchi killed that woman holding a baby. In cold blood. Your employee Dale Monroe said he would have taken the same shot and that it was justified. You asked for input. Here it is: Dump Monroe.

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