What Oklahoma and South Dakota can Teach Florida’s Gov. DeSantis About Constitutional Carry

What Oklahoma and South Dakota can Teach Florida's Gov. DeSantis About Constitutional Carry

courtesy foxnews.com

In November, Florida narrowly elected Ron DeSantis as governor of the former Gunshine State. Along with governor-elect DeSantis taking office, the House and Senate will also have Republican majorities.

In just about any other state, that would mean good news for gun owners. But as Florida’s past legislative history has shown, that isn’t the case. The Republican Party of Florida, through a number of representatives and senators, have sided with the state’s growing Civilian Disarmament Industrial Complex to block pro-gun legislation. Worse, this past session they passed gun control restrictions.

Back in June, the RPOF held their annual Sunshine Summit and Florida Carry was there to see where political candidates and office holders stood on gun rights. At that meeting, DeSantis unequivocally told Florida Carry that he supports campus carry, open carry, and more importantly, constitutional carry.

Why do I bring this up? Because Oklahoma and South Dakota replaced governors who vetoed constitutional carry bills. Back in May 2018, Oklahoma Governor Mary Fallin vetoed constitutional carry. Incoming governor-elect Kevin Stitt said he would sign a constitutional carry bill in September.

“I would sign it. I am a constitutional conservative. I support the first amendment, the second amendment and I think the best defense for a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun,” said Stitt.

Governor-Elect DeSantis should put pressure on incoming Senate President Bill Galvano (R) and the legislature as a whole. Even though Galvano took $200,000 from Michael Bloomberg and drafted Florida’s gun control bill that bars teachers from carrying. The Parkland shooting commission has thrown his desire of barring campus carry right back in his face with their 13-1 vote to arm school teachers and administrators.

Governor-Elect DeSantis can make life hell for the legislature is he so chooses by vetoing their district-specific porkbelly project bills. Florida used to be on the forefront of the Second Amendment movement when it came to restoring the rights of the citizenry. But sadly the state has fallen behind in recent years.

If South Dakota and Oklahoma sign constitutional carry into law, that would mean 30% of the country will have fully restored Americans’ Second Amendments rights.

What Oklahoma and South Dakota can Teach Florida's Gov. DeSantis About Constitutional Carry

The question becomes whether DeSantis will keep his promise apply needed pressure on the legislature to pass constitutional carry or other pro-Second Amendment legislation this coming year. And whether Floridians, if need be, will put pressure on DeSantis’ office to remind him of his promise.

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  1. avatar ROBERT Powell says:

    de santis needs to remember that he is in the state of florida not porto rico or cuba, this is america not moscow or new york .the communist way will get you killed here. if he wants communisim get the hell out and go to cuba or venesuela.

    1. avatar HuntingtonGuy says:

      One of the reasons we have the problems we have in NY and other places is Americans like you throwing around the “us versus them” garbage. 90% of NY has nothing to do with NYC but that is where the liberal strength is and as a result, our state Legislature is a hot mess.
      When we argue with NRA, SAF, NSSF and the others to spend time, money and resources here, we get responses like yours.
      Florida has gone solid purple and nearly flipped in the last election. Much of the reason for that is Libs and other anti’s relocating there from places where they have already ruined the rights of other Americans.
      Rag on NY all you like, but guys like you seem to always be surprised when you wake up one day and you are Virginia or Colorado or North Carolina or Washington state and on and on. They all said screw NY and now our reality is wrapping its hands around the neck of their freedoms too.
      Unity, not division is the way we will succeed, not by throwing each other under the bus.

      1. avatar neiowa says:

        Well you newyorkers have pollute Fl (which has always been a US haven for “charlatans” anyhow) in the same way that Komifornians have polluted every state in the west. Move there and immediately proceed to recreate you progtard nirvana.

        When you “real” newyorkers start “tarring and feathering” (as 1775) your newyork city commies, then come lecture the rest of the nation.

        1. avatar HuntingtonGuy says:

          Many of us are stuck here for good reasons. Fighting the good fight is not as simple as it sounds unfortunately.
          I’ll agree that many NY’ers are mutts and they tend to be the ones that get noticed. As surprising as it may sound we do have a strong pro 2A community, but we face strong resistance. Here on Long Island it’s a lot like being extensions of the city, most of NYS is not.
          The only reason I posted originally was to say that as much as it sucks for most gun owners here, the problems are spreading. If we keep on with allowing them to divide and conquer… they will win.
          I’m an NRA Benefactor LM, CCW, Pistol Instructor, Utah CW Instructor… bla, bla, bla…like many others. If we all treat the problems like 50 individual state issues we will fail.
          Support for 2A and law abiding gun owners needs to be universal in our community and at this point we are miles from that being the case.
          Those of us behind enemy lines in places like New Yorkistan can’t do it alone.
          Take a look at the portion of NRA membership and donation dollars come out of NY. We are trying, we need everyone else to stay in the fight with us, not against us.
          Congressman and Senators. AG’s. VFW, AL, DAV, FOP and all the other fraternals can help too…if we demand that they do.

          I hope you guys get behind the effort, it’s not about us up here, it’s about all of us.

      2. avatar Ralph says:

        “90% of NY has nothing to do with NYC”

        What? New York City makes up over 40% of the state’s population.

        1. avatar SAFEupstateFML says:

          I think he ment by area/voting district. Sadly your point is close enough and the deciding factor here

    2. avatar Jackass Jim says:

      Robert Powell: BS – with a bullet.

      The entire state of NY is “May Issue”. That also means May Not Issue. The majority of NY citizens are to be disdained.

      1. avatar bob cosenza says:

        i.v lived in ny{brooklyn}all my life,i can apologize for all of it,just a little part of it.anyway you haven,t lived until you apply for a pistol permit,its $320.00 and $90.00 for finger printing.for 1st time applicants.and $320.00 every 3 yrs to renew.talk about being held up without a gun,and the police commissioner another anti-gun pos james o,neill.i asked about a ccw and they said to me,what do you need a ccw for.and i told them how about protecting me and my family.and they said that,s not a good enough reason,you need to have a reason like carrying,large amounts of money or jewelry or a business owner etc.and going down to1 police plaza is like going into the twilight zone.its a disgraceful and degrading way to run the nypd,its like there doing you a favor,and its an expensive and time consuming nightmare.i hope trump can do something about it,because with the do nothing democraps gillibrand and schummer,its even harder.

        1. avatar George burns says:

          I lived in Queens and had a “carry permit” for 25 years in NYC. At the time 70’s , when I got mine, you needed to carry at least $5000.00 per day, make deposits and hold money over night. I needed letters from my bank president, Accountant, 5 people unrelated who knew me for 10 years, plus 3 interviews. I just put my head down and did it. Since I managed and later owned several businesses, it went through in a year.
          Now I am told you need 50 thousand per day, and everyone know uses plastic

    3. avatar Jackass Jim says:

      HuntingtonGuy: BS – with a bullet.

      The entire state of NY is “May Issue”. That also means May Not Issue. The majority of NY citizens are to be disdained.

      1. avatar HuntingtonGuy says:

        The name suits you JJ. If I thought you could read I would invite you to look st a map and examine NY gun laws. Downstate counties (there are 62 counties here) are nearly as bad as NYC for gun owners. I should say legal gun owners because while the gubmint restricts most people from lawfully owning, the bad guys aren’t encumbered by those irritating little laws.
        Much of the state is pretty gun friendly or at least not hostile to 2A. The laws are a patchwork, I’ll grant you that. When the good guys either give up and stop advocating and voting or just pack up and leave, it will get worse.
        We get the government we deserve, we elect it. Keep a close eye on your state there hotshot, when it starts to look more like up here it’ll be because jerks like you are convinced you have all the answers and know better than others.
        I honestly have no use for Florida. Too hot, too many bugs and too many inbred imbeciles we DGAF about anyone but themselves….oh, and of course, an exploding population of former NY’ers who are figuring out how to put their hand in your pocket and how to chip away at your 2A until it looks more like ours.
        Enjoy the ride tough guy, guys like you are the most fun to watch once their idyllic little worlds begin to slip away from their grasp.

    4. avatar David says:

      Why do you mix Puerto Rico and Cuba? The only thing they have in common is that both are Caribbean Islands. Cuba is a communist dictatorship and Puerto Rico is a US territory, with all Constututional rights.
      Be informed before posting comments.
      DeSantis is a conservative Republican. He knows what to do.

      1. avatar Jean-Claude says:

        The Puerto Ricans who are moving to Florida after the hurricane are just as bad as the Nuyoricans who’ve been coming down for years.

        Lazy, shiftless, immediately on the dole—and definitely voting Democrat.

        Florida is going to be a blue state. DeSantis is a one term governor, and we will have black or brown Democrat gun grabber governors forever.

    5. avatar Juan Carlos Reyes says:

      It’s Puerto Rico dummy!

  2. avatar Michael says:

    The states do not “restore” rights. The only two issues the Founding Fathers fully agreed on were that the “state” was responsible for delivering the mail and GUARDING THE BORDERS, until they can get both of these responsibilities right on a dependable and regular basis, they should not be allowed to do ANYTHING else. No Compromise, No Retreat, No Surrender.

    1. avatar RWE says:

      Michael, I couldn’t agree more!

      1. avatar Michael says:

        Get prepared for 1935…dark o’ the moon…-30-

  3. avatar Enuf says:

    It is important to keep pushing for the full restoration of Second Amendment Rights. With the changing demographics of the voting population, and with the failure of the pro-gun side to redirect the argument from the fantasy that guns are violent to the reality of Human Violence, the more we achieve now the stronger our position will be later.

    Also important is to practice what we preach. Carry everywhere and every time it is not a crime to do so.

    1. avatar HuntingtonGuy says:

      👏👏👏

  4. avatar MIO says:

    Mary Fallon was termed out no matter what. That is a moot point your trying to make.
    No one believes Stitt.
    Yeah he said he would sign it “IF they can get the bill to me”. He’s not pushing it instead he’s just willing to sign it if he has too.
    Try talking to real Okie’s first.

  5. avatar New Continental Army says:

    I think DeSantis is genuine. The FL legislature is another matter, however.

    1. avatar uncommon_sense says:

      New Continental Army,

      Florida’s behemoth tourism industrial complex — with Disney at the head — will NEVER allow open carry or constitutional carry in Florida. To be honest I am utterly stunned that Florida still allows licensed concealed carry.

      1. avatar Michael says:

        That’s sad. Florida was the first state with a mandatory “shall issue” Concealed Carry Permit law. Probably why the communists are trying so hard to reset the calendar. -30-

  6. avatar Helms Deep says:

    RINO’s at all state levels are betraying us , flooded with Bloomberg CASH.
    Watch Pennsylvania who just passed Red Flag laws abandoning due process , now they will seek to ” Do Something ” like Pittsburgh Mayor is pushing an AWB like NJ.

    1. avatar Mymy says:

      Pittsburgh has lost twice on their antigun proposals. The suit on their current proposal is already on the way from the firm that beat them on the first two.

      1. avatar frank speak says:

        pittsburgh’s city council may be having second thoughts about the actions of its gay mayor….

  7. avatar Leighton Cavendish says:

    Hawaii may as well be a no-issue state…how many permits have they issued?

    1. avatar Widdler says:

      None to normal citizens, not to my knowledge anyway. Hear that some retired cops and judges have them, and a few of the super rich that donate alot of $ for campaigns.

  8. avatar daveinwyo says:

    Wyoming refused Clintons motor-voter push and agreed to “cross-over” voting. This election Deamonrats crossed over to push a very rino governor down our throats. M-V law is like commifornica where illegal Fn aliens are registered to vote when they get a drivers license.

  9. avatar daveinwyo says:

    Get an illegal license to drive on fake docs.

  10. avatar Newshawk says:

    As another poster noted, Gov. Fallon was term-limited out. I believe that was the reason she vetoed constitutional carry. Incoming Gov. Stitt will be in his first term so if SB 12 hits his desk he’ll have to sign it if he wants a second term.

  11. avatar HuntingtonGuy says:

    Demand that HR 38 be reintroduced. If it can clear the House again (the Western state Dems fear 2A types more than the others) I think the Senate would move it this time. Even if only to rub Chuckies nose in it.

  12. avatar Nanashi says:

    The Jackson and Coolidge method: Veto everything till the legislature does what you want them to. Beats a bully pulpit any day.

    Getting constitutional carry is important now that Scott cost us the Ag Commisoner (who is in charge of carry permits in Florida) race by refusing to remove Snipes the first time she was caught cheating in 2016 and letting her steal that race without hindrance.

    1. avatar GluteusMaximus says:

      Im just thankful we stopped Gillum

  13. avatar GS650G says:

    Get rid of RINOs first and then find a way to stem the influx of people who don’t share the values.
    Eventually enough people will move there to displace the natives and you’ll have new Jersey.

  14. avatar DDay says:

    The new Governor of Georgia has the same opportunity to push for Constitutional Carry, etc.

    There are plenty of states with conservative legislatures and GOP governors, TN, Indiana, Kentucky…

    Utah and Montana will be Constitutional Carry states when they get new Governors in 2020

  15. avatar Stateisevil says:

    DeSantis could say whatever he wants. He won’t face backlash for not pushing pro gun stuff, but he would face backlash for holding the legislature hostage, assuming he was that passionate about gun rights, which he is not. There will be no campus carry, no open carry, and no constitutional carry while the Fl GOP have power.

  16. avatar brian says:

    with nebraska and utah an archipeligo of unlicenced carry could be created.

  17. avatar Green Mtn. Boy says:

    RINO’s are free to join the party of their Commiecrat brethren.

  18. avatar RGP says:

    Catchy title, but I don’t think anybody can teach DeSantis anything.

  19. avatar Timothy Toroian says:

    Contrary to David Hogg and others the people will soon discover that those who oppose the 2nd Amendment are actually anti-Constitutional.

    1. avatar Michael says:

      Harvard just “accepted” Hogg boy. They really do give out trophies for just showing up. I wonder how long it will take until he starts telling them that they’re doing it all wrong? -30-

  20. avatar neiowa says:

    Fl is well rid of Scott who will fit right in with the Senate RINO wing.

  21. avatar Widdler says:

    That map is a LIE! Hawaii is RED folks. No common citizens are even given an option to carry and never have, only cops and anyone who out ranks the chief of police. -TRUTH-

  22. avatar Rocket Science 101 says:

    “Florida used to be on the forefront of the Second Amendment movement when it came to restoring the rights of the citizenry. “But sadly the state has fallen behind in recent years.”

    FLORIDA HAS NOT FALLEN.
    IT WAS PUSHED!

  23. avatar Matt in Floridy says:

    Constitutional Carry…. That’s a joke right?!?!
    Florida is going downhill fast. Just in the last 10 years or so we’re having a huge change in demographics here.

    Large parts of central Fl have literally become Puerto Rico. Don’t confuse Puerto Rican’s with Cubans. These folks would trade away their gun rights for Yankee hats and gift cards to Pollo Tropical.

    Let’s not forget that convicted felons will be voting in future elections. You gotta hand it to democrats. They sure know how to breed new special interests pets.

    Even if you don’t get sweeping gun control crap from the FL house/senate directly it’s just gonna end up on the ballot and passed with mob rule.

    They’ll just name the Amendment something like “Save the Children” or “It’s Time for Common Sense” and every knucklehead in the cities and burbs will gladly vote for it.

    1. avatar Jean-Claude says:

      You are absolutely correct. The massive influx of Puerto Ricans changes Florida radically.

      They are all going to vote Democrat because they’re all on the dole.

      The 1.5 million felons added to the rolls means 1.5 million Democrats.

  24. avatar Pete says:

    The real danger in arming teachers and school staff, is that it might prove to be effective.

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