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The silence from the ACLU in this (and many other similar cases) is deafening.
How does an ACLU lawyer count from 1 to 10?
1,3,4,5,6, . . .
Furious George
Hell yeah +1
Nice!!
I concur. Give this man a prize. 🙂
Yep, he left the job as police chief of Cincinnati because he refused to take the test to be certified in Ohio, which apparently is required.
Taking “It’s so easy a cavemen a can do it” to a whole other level.
Scope bite in 3,2,1…
Its on like Donkey Kong. Or: you can run Mario, but you’ll only die tired.
The Ivy League idea of a Texan.
And now we know the true story of the One-Eyed-Banana Bandit…
Joe “F***in” Biden
Oh-E-Oh-Ah-Ah Ting-Tang-Wanna-Wanna-Big-Bang
Very good although you misspelled the sounds. It is more like this:
Ooh, eee, ooh, ah ah, ting, tang, wanna wanna big bang!
We are EVOLVE, the third voice in the gun debate (and this is what we really think of gun owners).
Get your stinkin’ paws of my rifle, you d@mn dirty ape.
Excellent Planet of the Apes reference.
Whatever. I’ve been military for eight years and learned plenty on how to fight wars against tyranny, as have many veterans. Just because a tyrant sits in office in California does not make him any less a tyrant than a man who sat on a throne in Baghdad. Tyranny can also take the form of tyranny by majority, with the majority enforcing its way of life upon a minority. I’ve devoted my life and made my living by fighting tyrants, and this is no different. If they want my guns, they can try to come and take them. I’ve earned my right to bear arms, and it’s not going to be taken away by some politically biased judge who sits in a chair behind armed court security officers while he makes decisions to furthur his political opinions, rather than upholding the Constitution. Too many justices now want to rewrite the Constitution to suit their political ends, rather than doing what they are supposed to do and upholding what the document says. They are frauds and traitors to their oaths and no decision handed down by them ought to be viewed as relevant, legal or abiding.
This is why we need universal background checks.
Serious monkey business
They say they’ve evolved? I’ll show the smug bastards some Evolved!
I wonder how many of government employee Sauschuck’s officers would fail a surprise steroid test?
Having escaped the drudgery of the organ grinder, bobo was attempting to set his sights higher.
“Poach this”!
Smarter and more emotionally balanced than 99.9% of cops working today.
Gorilla warfare.
Outstanding
For the win.
Tired of being called surrender monkeys, the French try a new tactic.
Not pictured: geurrilla warfare
New photo released from Wikileaks “Grassy Knoll,” circa 1963.
FAAAKE! Real monkeys prefer AKs (for their banana clips)
Winner candidate here
Obama is not consulting anyone he has a plan for our roll over to his marixs ideas. an he is sticking to it–more that we can say. hell with thosands of truckers all we could muster is 24–that speakes for it self
You have to remember the average UK Constable Plod know absolutely stuff-all about firearms, but cannot be seen to be ignorant as they are about such matters.
A good example was a televised firearm seizure where the interviewed officer said they seized two high powered rifles that could kill someone over a mile away. But the rifles were visibly break-barrel air rifles and the barrels were visibly opened. Also, they were perfectly legal to own and were only used by the owners in an improvised range in the basement of the house. The neighbours complained about some unusual noises downstairs.
See no, Hear no, Shoot no…
The new Private as seen by the old Gunney.
Robin Williams takes up hunting with one of the few models of semi-auto rifles still legal in CA.
Organ grinder payback !
NOW who’s King of the Jungle, bitch?
The president liked trap shooting so much, he decided to try F-Class.
I know, that’s cold.
“Democracy is the art and science of running the circus from the monkey cage…welcome to my monkey cage !”
Monkey see, monkey shoot
Pulling overwatch while the rest of your pack gets to go “all rampagey and shit” on the local villagers sucks dick.
Still laughing!
I buy whatever Joe Biden says is what I need, no questions asked.
Just kidding!
No more monkeys jumpin on the bed
Hmm. Sounds like the chief became chief much like our president did.
This guy is just a punk and a coward. How can a non-sworn officer supervise rank and file?
The rarely documented scout sniper babboon in his natural habitat.
1
Wanna see my monkey?
In response to continuing difficulties in recruiting efforts, the armed forces experiment with some alternative options.
Why are you posting the picture of Obama shooting clay pigeons again?
(I admit, that went too far.)
Right Turn Clyde this, Right Turn Clyde that. F*&& that, what does he think I am some kind of circus aminal? Next time he says Right Turn Clyde, I’ll got his right turn right here.
Had there not been video (taken by a security camera on a neighbor’s garage), this shooting would be defended tooth and nail by the Dallas PD. After all, the ever truthful officer clearly wrote “the suspect lunged with knife raised” in his report. And of course, had he known there was video, he would have written more ‘artfully’.
Prosecuting for (at least) assault with deadly weapon is absolutely the right thing to do.
New to the Muslim Brotherhood!! The Obaboon Sniper Squad !!
“Mil-spec monkey.”
I made a call one night to find a dude shot in the right thigh from about 6 feet away with 12 gauge # 6 birdshot. He was a big man with massive thighs, or at least one of them was still massive. The other was pure jello. He was utterly and completely out of the fight. Tell him birdshot at close range doesn’t work.
Thought you could mess around behind my back Tarzan.
They never should have dropped the line. They just created a bigger market share for Turkey and Brazil by doing so.
Its this or poop….You decide
Say hello to my new little friend.
Actually I would only want one if I could have 2. One for each hand of course. I would be the baddest (& coolest) dood around.
Maybe after the 15 other guns I want are in the safe and they reduce the price to $499.
Baboom er Baboon.
An image as old as the internet.
Wonder why they let the gangs run free (dc cops know right where they are ).
Just like in Chicago there is no $ in outlawing gangs so turn on the population with a paycheck
Wake up people they will come for you too.
What struck me was that they did not charge him until he told his instructor that he was going to exercise his rights some more.
Then they came down on him like a ton of horse manure.
I also wonder if they were concerned about a lawsuit from the first encounter. This could very well be a “preemptive” strike.
Not a pistol. Not a subgun. 1100 bucks. Not a chance.
Here’s a picture of a monkey with a rifle… Your argument is invalid.
As a combat veteran I have to admit that the current and seemingly popular trend of involuntary psych evals and commitment has me personally worried.
It seems that a combat vet defying the establishment (aka: contempt of cop) can be thrown in a psych ward just because they’re a combat vet. You refused a search of your car? Dangerous vet, psych eval. You refused to let me in your house? Dangerous vet, psych eval. You openly carry a firearm and tell me that it’s legal to do it? Dangerous vet, psych eval.
Instead of being a title worthy of respect it seems it makes the cops so insecure that they must do something to punish these people.
Anybody can make a blanket statement on Twitter. I want to know the details as to how exactly this was accomplished. If he did, in fact, buy such a gun without a background check I suspect it was in the parking lot outside the gun show, not at the show itself.
I want to see the proof. But then again, if he DID get a background check and he is just lying about it, the paper trail is either restricted from public view or the check has (theoretically) been deleted from the NICS database. He can pretty much claim anything he wants and know he can’t get called on it.
Maybe they will actually pay attention to the wood to metal fit this time. The gun was nice the first time around (I own a Orivs Model) but they never heard of wood/metal fit.
Speak no Evil, See no Evil, Hear no Evil. But Get some.
10 seconds later he was f***king the scope.
“Yeah, that’s right. I’m not the family Dog, boy’s”
Leadtime for Bonzo.
SSGT. Pickles demonstrates the (Brown) Advanced Natural Native Active Nonchalant Neutralizing Ambushment System (BANNANNAS), developed by Federal Armed Legion Systems Enterprises, during joint military contract evaluations for the Simian Approximation Replacement Camouflage (SARC) program.
If he did buy the Glock without a background check, which I have believed a mandatory requirement for hand gun transfer, has he possible committed a crime? Is he liable for not reporting an illegal sale of a hand gun? Are BG checks only applicable to interstate H/G transfers?
…and thus the poaching problem solves itself.
This is the last time you call me a MONKEY’s UNCLE!
This is Civll Rights struggle 2.0, complete with unconstitutional laws, police brutality, mass protests and the rest. I also believe that it either way it ends, the national guard will be involved to force the issue.
Brown Dawn
This is a POLITICIAN he should ware a suit and stop posing as a police officer. Or he should be arrested for pretending to be a police officer.
I’m going to be a buzzkill and note that this baboon is likely posed with the gun used to kill him. I would never disrespect an animal I had hunted like this.
So, to sum up: Cho, who went on to shoot 32 people, bought a gun with a background check. Goddard, who I’m assuming isn’t planning on shooting anyone (big assumption, I know), bought one without one. This is an argument for background checks how?
Cho also waited the 30 days between buying each gun to comply with the “common sense 1 gun a month rule” and one of those guns was a Walther P22 with a 10 round magazine. No “scary black rifle”, no “highly powerful rounds”, no “back alley gun buys” and no 30 round “high capacity magazine clips”. Such is the nexus of gun grabbers. This is not the shooting they’re looking for, but they still push the same diatribe as if it would have “done something”.
What my mind saw as a youngster the first time I read about “guerrilla warfare.”
People do understand, mostly.
It is actually much better now than it was 20 years ago.
Lots of people have spent plenty of time in jail, the media was just so completely “progressive” that you never heard about them.
I’m gonna say Sky News gets a knockout in the 4th round. Any takers??
Just out of frame is the monolith from “2001”.
“Hit!”
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3353/3338055033_61df4fa69a.jpg
Century Arms tests their new “precision long range rifle”.
Dunno, Something about the way he talks is making my Psychiatric Spidey Senses tingle….
Sure, I’ll bite. Especially if it helps gun makers provide useful tools to me at a bargain price!
My thought process as a consumer:
See pretty picture of firearm/have firearm recommended to me/use type of firearm at a range
1.) Decide I need a type firearm.
2.) Narrow by intended use.
5.) Research first hand accounts on internet.
3.) Decide on type of firearm and caliber.
4.) Narrow by price point. If unavailable at budget level, research alternatives or save money.
6.) Decide on model, manufacturer based on value per dollar I have to spend.
7.) Decide whether to buy on internet with FFL or LGS based on availability (I always contact LGS first)
8.) Purchase firearm.
9.) Test firearm with no mercy. If firearms does not perform as needed/intended, sell firearm and start over. Carry chip on shoulder and whine on internet about type/manufacturer/model of failed firearm.
10.) Configure firearm as necessary (holsters, ammo, optics, lasers, accessories)
11.) Wax poetic on the internet about firearm. Take pictures with firearm. Irritate friends who don’t care to hear about how cool new firearm is. Make wife jealous of inanimate objects.
12.) Start over
I’m almost certain that replicator is NOT capable of making a liberator… Not one that would hold up, at any rate. Cody Wilson used a $10,000 machine. Not a $1,500 machine.
This article gave me just enough clues about this woman’s identity to do a google hunt and actually find out who we’re talking about. Its Evie Hudak of District 19. Westminster, CO
He’s not trained, he’s not certified, yet he is wearing the uniform.
If this were any other person they’d be arrested for impersonating an officer.
Detroit is looking like a typical third-world country- typical tin-pot dictators in drag.
“The consent of the governed will be a real thing again. Not just something we pay lip service to.”
And all the statist authoritarians had a collective aneurysm.
” Oswald was a pussy “
Freedom Fighter of the Banana Republic
Fast ropin is fun till frickin Mongo lands on top of you cause you found a gopher hole the hardway.
As for mr. McAuffle you sir are the worst kind of politician there is.
“Air Assault” is a little easier.
A lil but they now include fast rope in that school as well.
“If you’re lucky Cape Town’s baboons will just throw feces at you.”
“What if I’m unlucky?”
or
Winner of the design your own lee Enfield contest
These idiots just don’t get it, why attempt to persecute a portion of the population that is more law abiding than the general population. Oh that’s right, they are idiots!
Here’s a dumb question: how do you hit the bolt release when the stock is in the folded position (it folds to the left, not to the right)? It seems like the older, less AR15-esque 556 has the advantage in that department.
The real reason behind Tracking Point targeting systems!
for once, i cant defend Texas here.
nor do i want to. its the price we pay for our gun culture. some cops still believe “wild west rules” are still in play. shoot first, ask later, file a report tomorrow. and everyone above is exactly right: had this video not been around, the cos would have drove off into the sunset. this makes me sick and angry.
he WILL go to jail. no lawyer in the land can double talk that footage. its as damning as we could hope for.
OK, now on to why O/U’s and doubles cost more than many other shotguns:
First, you have two barrels. Two chokes, two chambers. Right there, you’ve got a big bump in the COGS.
Next, the two barrels have to be set together. This required a bunch of work, regardless of how you do it. I won’t bore people with how double barreled guns were made in Ye Olden Days, I’ll stick to what is happening now.
There are two ways to make a double-barreled gun, whether shotgun or rifles:
1. You go “old school” where the barrels were forged with a “lump” at the chamber end. The really old-school barrels for shotguns were “chopper lump” barrels, so named because the barrel would sort of resemble an axe. You’d forge the lumps together, then start filing off everything that didn’t look like a finished lump.
There are other techniques, but all of the first group of barrels “go all the way to the rear.” The barrels go from the muzzle to the breech, and some forging or fitment is integral or fitted between the barrels to form the lump.
2. You create a “monoblock” of one piece of steel that has the chambers, the lumps, etc. machined into this one piece of steel. The barrels will screw, solder or braze into the monoblock. This can be faster in today’s CNC machining environment. The barrels become very generic forward of the chamber/lump area, and interchangeable from side to side, unlike the days of the forging lumps onto the rear of the barrels.
The older Red Label was, to my recollection, a mono-block gun. Given the manufacturing advantages and Ruger’s price point, I’d wager that the new one is as well.
3. Now, on to other issues that increase the price:
There’s effectively two guns inside a double or O/U. There’s two sets of lockwork as well as two barrels and two chokes. These two locks have to be adjusted and timed correctly to make sure that they cock correctly at the same time when the barrels are opened.
Then there are two more sets of lockwork on a double or O/U that have ejectors. You guys wanted to know why there’s so much more expensve, I’m telling you.
When you have a double barreled shotgun that ejects (or “kicks”) the spent shell(s) out, you have a sear/hammer/cocking/trip mechanism that gets tripped when the barrel is fired, so when you open the gun the appropriate (and only the appropriate) shell(s) are kicked out. Most of that mechanism is located in the forearm hanger, which is hidden inside the forearm wood. The trip rods run from the lockwork back in hammer/sear area, through the receiver and up to the front of the receiver, where the hinge is. On some double-barreled guns, the trip rods also serve as the cocking levers for the hammers in the action. On some double guns, there are two sets of transmission between the forearm and the lockwork.
4. Still with me so far? Now we get to the issue of wood/metal fit on the action, the trigger guard area, the forearm hanger, etc. The fitting of a boxlock (which is the style of double or O/U the Red Label is) is easier than sidelock guns, but if the gun is going to handle recoil without splitting or chipping out the stock, the wood has to be fit up correctly. Small changes in how the wood fits to the rear of the action can result in noticeable changes to the drop, cast, toe-out of the buttstock.
5. Now we get to the barrels. The ribs have to be fit up to the barrels. In Ye Olden Days, the barrels were held in a fixture and the ribs were soft-soldered by hand to the barrels. The space between the ribs/barrels wasn’t water-tight, so the barrels could not be blued in hot salt baths. The blueing salts would get into the inter-rib/inter-barrel space and not be able to be flushed out, which would cause severe corrosion later. So double/OU guns used to be rust blued or fume blued. This takes yet more time, adds yet more expense.
In newer guns, the whole assembly (barrels, ribs, front wedge for between the barrels) is set to braze the ribs between the barrels. The barrel/rib assemblies are now as water-tight as a duck’s butt, and they can be hot salt blued easily. They accomplish this by setting the ribs/barrels/wedges/etc together in a fixture, put brazing “dust” into the joints to be brazed, then put the entire thing into an atmosphere oven to bring it up to brazing temperature. Done deal.
For what Ruger delivered, the Red Label used to be a lot of bang for the buck. I can’t speak to this instance of the gun, as I’ve not seen one yet.
Sigh…some of these comments make my brain hurt.
I can honestly say, wrong place, wrong time, and wrong officers. This was BOUND to happen to somebody (why it couldnt be the D-bag carrier, ill never know) and it just so happened he picked the short straw. If he takes this to court (and he DAMN WELL SHOULD) and wins, its the Colorado recall all over again. Bloomberg and Co. will lose their collective sh!t.
A lot of those locations are bars. Washington State carry permits do not allow carry in bars or the over-21-only sections of restaurants.
This isn’t nearly as big a deal as they’re making it out to be.
For the last of my three piece tome, “why OU shotguns for clay games?”
First reason: You get faster lock times between shots.
Second, you have two chokes. In games where you have two clays presented, one is going to be closer, one will be further away. Now you can adapt your shooting to have a more open choke and a tighter choke.
Third, break-action shotguns give shooters more confidence that the gun isn’t loaded when moving around the range.
Fourth, on trap and skeet ranges, shooters would like the shooters to their left to not have semi-auto guns that dump shells onto their lane. Highly competitive shotgun shooters shoot more than most people do, and they like to reload. For that reason, they often like the ability to grab their empties out of a break-action gun and dump them into a shell bag on their belt.
There are other reasons why many clay competitors prefer O/U’s, but they’re not absolutely necessary. There are guys who have shot trap very, very successfully with an 870. There are plenty of guys shooting sporting clays with semi-autos. For trap, however, the break-action gun now rules, and specialized trap guns are the rule of the day in the higher levels of the game. The higher level trap competitors shoot 10’s of thousands of rounds per year.
In Soviet Russia, game hunt you!
Gotta love the fireman calmly putting on his gloves. Good man.
I’m not sure why the customer thought it was a good idea to stand in the doorway, blocking the criminals’ exit like that. It would have been especially bad if he ended up being the backstop for the proprietor’s bullets. Or prevented him from shooting back at all.
‘Course once you had one wounded and outnumbered criminal, it makes a lot more sense.
All he wanted to know was If he could get one of those banana clips for it.
The “average gun owner” starring in MAIG’s new ad campaign.
Whats visually different about the new red label is the butt stock geometry and the abscence of the rib between the bbls.
Springs aren’t a “recurring” problem for Glock. Only in early model Gen 4 releases, after repair work perfectly fine.
Monkey see monkey shoot
Shooting: it’s so easy even a monkey can do it.
After successfully completing the works of Shakespeare, George embarked on something a little more fulfilling.
Durr.Of course were trying to recruit the next generation of customers.It’s what you antis did in Australia,and the plan worked pretty well no?
Child: “Mommy, I don’t think I Like this zoo”
Mother: “Shh, you don’t want to upset the animals, we’re in a gun free zone”
So many Men in Yellow Hats, so little ammo…
The more things loosen, the more accepted it will become, which will help things loosen up. What a great thing.
Barring no stoopid people doing stoopid things events.
It’s like someone woke up one day and said, ”Hmm. How can we make people pay $1100 for disappointment?”.
If you can’t spray a room with it, it isn’t an Uzi.
Here is some more pile-on by the Bangor Daily News:
http://bangordailynews.com/2013/10/18/news/portland/heavily-armed-portland-man-a-public-safety-concern-not-constitutionally-protected-police-say/
Billy Zanes replacement for the next Sniper film.
GeeeeeEEESSSHHH!! Only the gumment can afford to throw that kind of money into an optic and not bat an eyelash. Yeah, I’ll trash out three T-1’s and still have money left, thank you.
A stranger saw my sidearm in public and asked the tired question, “Are you a cop?” I replied with, “Are you a prostitute?” She gasped and replied, “No! Why would you ask?” I answered, “Exactly.”
IMHO, badges are a bad idea. In some places OC is normalized enough that the general public and peace officers already assume that someone OCing is probably not a criminal. This thread is one of those rare moments when I agree with the “concealed means concealed!” crew and suggest that if one were to display a concealed carry badge then they might as well open carry. Further, the badge potentially creates more problems than it likely cures. Some claim that an OCer would be first to be shot in a robbery attempt. How much more-so would it be for a person displaying a badge? However, if someone has a mind to carry one, I’m not going to be one to ridicule, complain, or demean. I don’t think it’s prudent but that’s just my own opinion.
Education and knowledge are the enemy of fear and prejudice, they need those things to support their emotional response.
$1149.00
$920 (not counting delivery cost)
$982
I’m confused… We’re the guns loaded or unloaded? Unfortunately, FOPA doesn’t protect you from the parking lot to the terminal, even if the guns are locked and unloaded.
Makes me wonder what would happen to me.
If I had to for whatever reason make a stopover at a NYC airport.
I do after all still posses a NY State permit and do fly a lot usually with some of my guns.
I cant say what is what up there anymore.
But I never in the past had any issues traveling with firearms.
Now as to why he was even arrested is beyond me.
If he was traveling with checked weapons and traveling through NY.by air.
One would expect to be able to continue their trip.
I know NY doesn’t recognize nor allow travel through the state say in a car.
The federal laws for whatever reason don’t apply in NY , never have.
Now I still posses a valid permit but no longer have a permanent residency there so………………
This in my situation if it were to occur what my out come would be???
Probably be tossed in jail too.
Welcome to Chicago, that’s how they do it here as well.
Pic shows a real life anti in its natural environment.
1918
Answer?
Win win.