The 5 Handgun Carry Conditions – Which One Do You Use?

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Dan Z for TTAG

“Carry condition” isn’t as hotly debated in the gun community as, say, stopping power or GLOCK vs. 1911, but it’s up there. What is a carry condition? It’s the state of readiness you use for a handgun (usually one you’re carrying). It’s a sort of code for the number of steps needed to make the gun ready to fire.

Since you’re likely to hear these terms used the more you’re around firearms and the people who use and carry them, it’s a good thing to know what they mean (especially at a range or other location where specific carry conditions may be mandated in certain situations).

A handgun can be carried in a variety of ways that require different amounts of effort to make it ready to fire. These carry conditions were laid out by Col. Jeff Cooper who’s credited with originating the “modern technique” of using handguns for self-defense.

Keep in mind that Cooper’s carry gun of choice was a single action only 1911. That’s a pistol which has a grip safety and a thumb safety. If you carry a DA/SA or striker-fired pistol (with or without a safety), not all of this will apply.

Here are the five carry conditions as handed down by Cooper from least to most ready:

Condition 4: The pistol‘s chamber is empty, the magazine is removed, and the gun’s hammer is down.

It’s extremely unusual for anyone to carry in Condition 4 as making your handgun ready to fire takes considerable time and effort (draw, insert the magazine, rack the slide, aim, pull trigger). That’s a lot to do in a self-defense situation.

Condition 3: The pistol‘s chamber is empty, a magazine is inserted, and the hammer is down.

Also sometimes known as Israeli carry, this was the normal mode of carry for the US military when the 1911 was the standard issue sidearm. Condition 3 requires the defender to draw the pistol and rack the slide to load a round in order to make it ready to fire.

That takes some extra time, and can be impossible if your support hand is otherwise engaged. But many people who carry a handgun aren’t comfortable doing so with a round in the chamber. If you’re going to carry in Condition 3, you’ll want to practice your draw and slide rack — a lot — in order to make it as quick and instinctive as possible.

Condition 2: A round is chambered, a magazine is inserted and the hammer is down.

In a single action only pistol like a 1911, the hammer must be cocked when in Condition 2 before the gun is ready to fire. Few carriers use this condition outside of the movies where the hammer cock is used for dramatic effect.

There’s also increased danger of a negligent discharge when getting your Pistol into Condition 2. The 1911 doesn’t have a de-cocker. So that must be done carefully by pulling the trigger and lowering the hammer with a live round in the chamber. If your thumb slips during the process, it could cause the gun to fire.

Condition 1: A round is chambered, a magazine is inserted, and the hammer is cocked with the safety engaged.

Commonly referred to as “cocked and locked,” the only thing the gun owner must do after drawing the pistol is disengage the safety. This is something that requires training to do smoothly and regularly in a self-defense situation.

Condition 1 is the most popular method for anyone who carries a single action only pistol like a 1911. It makes some people nervous to see a gun’s hammer carried while cocked, but in a 1911, two safeties — the grip and the thumb — have to be disengaged for the pistol to fire.

Condition 0: A round is chambered, a magazine is inserted, and the hammer is cocked with the safety off.

In condition zero, all that has to happen to fire a round is a simple trigger pull. With a pistol like the 1911, which is known for its light, crisp trigger, that’s not a condition most carriers are comfortable with. Still, the pistol‘s grip safety has to be disengaged.

At the same time, people who carry a GLOCK, M&P, XD or other striker-fired gun with no external safety are essentially carrying in Condition 0, too.

 

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comments

  1. avatar pwrserge says:

    Glock: Low risk situations? Condition 3 High risk areas? Condition 0. Night stand? Condition 3.
    Sig: Condition 2 at all times except when stored.

    I’m much more concerned about NDing into my leg than I am about actually having to use my gun to defend myself. Maybe I live a charmed life, but I am much more concerned about Glock-leg than I am about some random crackhead breaking into my house without me having the time to rack a slide. A neat trick is to get a holster that allows you to rack the slide effectively while holstered. It’s an off thing, I know, but It’s a great way to keep administrative handling to a minimum.

    Some of the old Makarov holsters were actually designed to rack the slide when you draw. Pretty cool idea if you ask me.

    1. avatar Cloudbuster says:

      Glock: Low risk situations? Condition 3 High risk areas? Condition 0. Night stand? Condition 3.
      Sig: Condition 2 at all times except when stored.

      Carrying in different conditions at different times seems like a recipe for forgetting what condition your gun is actually in at the moment when it really counts.

      1. avatar pwrserge says:

        Not really much of an issue. It’s just training and memorization. I suppose it varies from person to person, but I’m one of those guys who can get completely dressed and ready for work with a blindfold.

      2. avatar Tom in PA says:

        When you use cognizant thought and KNOW the condition of your weapon at all times, it’s not an issue, which Serge is clearly doing. Different conditions make sense based on the specifc weapon and scenario. Additionally, every gun is NOT always loaded. I know it’s part of the 4 rules, but it’s a bad rule that allows for being lazy or sloppy. When handling weapons, we certainly TREAT them like they’re loaded so we’re not the d-bag muzzle sweeping everyone. The weapon is only loaded if the damn thing is loaded. It’s like being on fire – you’re either on fire or you’re not on fire. She’s either pregnant or she’s not pregnant. It’s one way or another. Using that rule and assuming your weapon is loaded rather than knowing is a recipe for getting a dry fire rep when you wanted a “Bang!”.

        1. avatar No cats were harmed in the asking of this question. Yet... says:

          She’s either pregnant or she’s not pregnant. It’s one way or another.

          And what does Schrodinger’s cat say about that?

        2. avatar Tom in PA says:

          Ha Ha – great point! Maybe the very nature of a paradoxical thought experiment that deals in the probabilities of admittedly ridiculous theories actually helps makes my point from one perspective, while refutes it from another. If we had insights into dimensionalities beyond three dimension plus time, maybe it would be more definitive, but we’re just dealing with a loaded firearm not quantum mechanics, or maybe we’re not since our reality is just our perception of a sophisticated electrical simulation we see through eyes that only perceive in two dimensions but infer the third. I don’t think the cat would say anything because that would be weird, and the cat is probably dead because someone who thought their gun was unloaded didn’t use cognizant thought and killed it with an ND.

      3. avatar William Korbel says:

        What about a condition 0 with the hammer at half-cock?

        1. avatar Terry Dean says:

          My EDC is a Ruger P-90 .45 ACP. It is in Condition 1 at all times unless it is being cleaned or reloaded.

  2. avatar billy-bob says:

    Cocked, locked and ready to rock. Is that still a thing?

    1. avatar Gadsden says:

      These days with all the soy boys and rough taxation, I think it’s supposed to be Rocked, Locked and ready for C… oh… wait.

  3. avatar George Washington says:

    Hk .45 USP Full Size…. 12+1 S/A

  4. avatar Gov. William J Le Petomane says:

    I keep a round in all 6 chambers. So I guess condition 2.

    1. avatar ‘liljoe says:

      Wow you carry six semi-autos at once? Boondocks Saints style!

      1. avatar Gov. William J Le Petomane says:

        Actually back in 1836 a man named Sam Colt invented a different way to do that with a single firearm.

    2. avatar Kyle says:

      I only keep 5, so I guess i’m your little brother.

      1. avatar Gov. William J Le Petomane says:

        4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10… It’s a big tent.

    3. avatar Joe Shmoe says:

      Nice 😉

  5. avatar MLee says:

    I carry a DA/SA hammer fired weapon with no external safety, mag inserted, chambered with hammer down. Sounds like a modified condition 0

    1. avatar WI Patriot says:

      That’s still be Condition 2, external safety or not…

    2. avatar Tom T says:

      Functionally the same as a striker fired if you opt for DA on your first shot. So yeah, I would call it 0.

      1. avatar Jeremy B. says:

        DAO striker guns like the Glock could be considered condition 2 (as the striker must still be moved to the rear) or condition 1 (all safeties are engaged until you put your finger on the trigger).

        But why do we have to label these fine firearms? Why are you assuming their readiness? What if your 1911 identifies as a DAO? (Colt New Agent)

        1. avatar rosignol says:

          ….a DAO 1911?

          Ewwwwww. Why? For the love of JMB, why?!?

      2. avatar MLee says:

        That was my thought. Only difference is the DA/SA is going to have that heavy first pull.

        1. avatar MLee says:

          My comment was for Tom T.

  6. avatar guest says:

    If you carry a 1911 with a round in the chamber and the hammer down, you are a fool.

    1. avatar Mark N. says:

      For a Series 70, true. But the Series 80 and all Kimbers, as well as a slew of others, there is a firing pin block that prevents accidental discharges if the firearm is dropped on the hammer.

      1. avatar TomC says:

        True enough, but you still have to be a fool to GET ANY 1911 INTO Condition 2.

      2. avatar guest says:

        That saftey is only engaged when the hammer is back.

      3. avatar Lon Loren says:

        I love the 1911. It is the safest hand gun ever produced. It has the grip safety half cock, the sear disconnector, slide stop thumb safety, and firing pin block. The only way a 1911 could accidently fire is dropping it on the muzzle. Half cock was put in there to prevent the hammer from falling when thumbing the hammer to full cock. The firing pin block fixed the accidental discharge when a 1911 falls on the muzzle. A 1911 in good condition won’t accidently discharge. If you pull the trigger it will go bang. Keep the sear spring in good condition.

    2. avatar Rad Man says:

      My guess is Guest is referring to the time it would take to cock the weapon before firing, rather than the ND possibility. And I agree – foolish.

      1. avatar Gov. William J Le Petomane says:

        It never slowed Clint Eastwood down much…

        1. avatar Wheel Gun Guy says:

          “My mule don’t like people laughin’….he gets the crazy idea people are laughin’ at him”…..”Now if you apologize like I know you’re gonna’, maybe I can convince him you didn’t mean it”.

  7. avatar Michael says:

    No, Glocks have internal firing pin safeties as part of the design, they are not condition 0, internal hammer revolvers are as safe as houses as long as the trigger finger is not engaging the trigger. Internal hammer revolvers and Glocks, with the proper holsters and safety training, are excellent and useful combos. Pull, align, press… continue as necessary to ensure satisfactory outcome of unexpected, interpersonal confrontations. Your milage may vary. F-K-A.

    1. avatar tdiinva says:

      If you pull the trigger it goes bang. The internal firing pin safety makes it drop safe. It’s the trigger pulling thing that makes it condition, otherwise a holstered 1911 in never in condition zero.

    2. avatar pwrserge says:

      Every Glock with a round in the chamber is in condition 0 and should be treated as such. Drop safeties are nice, but they have nothing to do with carry conditions.

      1. avatar PWinKY says:

        While I agree they should be treated as such, they aren’t technically condition 0.

        In a Glock, the first part of the trigger pull is cocking the striker. If the trigger isn’t being pulled then it isn’t actually “cocked” and therefore can’t be condition 0.

        1. avatar pwrserge says:

          Close enough. Does it go bang when you pull the trigger? Yes? Condition zero.

  8. avatar possum says:

    Condition two. I grew up shooting single actions, it’s just a natural thumbing the hammer back. I’ve thought about condition one when carrying a semi auto, but then figured over the years the hammer spring would get weak.

    1. avatar Gadsden Flag says:

      Figured wrong. Again. Carried condition one for years. Never an ignition problem. Replaced the occasional recoil spring. Even the occasional mag spring until I began using 7 rd Wilson mags exclusively. The hundred, or so 1911s I’ve owned, never needed to replace a mainspring.

      1. avatar possum says:

        Thanx for the info.I will start carrying that way. When I speed shoot in competition it’s cocked and locked because I’d be way to slow cocking it. You know GadFlag, I’ve shot a lot of pistols, and so far, the 1911 platform just works so much better for me. It points so well that I have looked at the target, turned my head, pointed the pistul and still hit the target. I can’t do that with any other sidearem

        1. avatar John in Ohio says:

          For me, the 1911 is the next best thing, as far as natural shooting, to a traditional single action cartridge revolver. I guess that makes sense given the history of the 1911.

          Come to think of it, black powder revolvers operate naturally for me as well.

    2. avatar John in Ohio says:

      Same here, possum. I was raised on single action revolvers so that’s my most comfortable carry; condition 2. Next in line would be 1911 in Condition 1. After decades of carrying them, I never experienced an issue with springs because of it. YMMV

  9. avatar neiowa says:

    “Actually” US Army SOP late 80s in CONUS (when escorting live ammo) was Condition 4 for M1911/M16. Keep that 5rd mag in the pouch when out on the interstate. Really who would hijack a few 5t full of TOW/Dragon rounds, C4/det cord/caps, and piles of small arms ammo? Crazy talk.

    Being a rebel I carried at Condition 3.

    1. avatar TomC says:

      In some US Army units in the 1970s and 1980s, SOP was more like Condition 5 or maybe it should be called Condition 6

      Chamber empty
      Hammer down
      Loaded magazine in an enclosed ammo pouch
      EMPTY magazine in the weapon

      1. avatar Marty says:

        In other words, you’re gonna die sucker.

      2. avatar tdiinva says:

        Things were so rocky after Vietnam that officers and senior enlisted were required to carry in condition 1 when on duty.

    2. avatar pornhub< lol, no spell check thing it's possum says:

      I was following a National Guard convoy once. Guys was riding in the back of a truck( I’d call it a duece and a half, but I’m not up to date on this new shit) anyway one of the guys points his rifle at me, dumb right, real dumb. I knew the rifle wasn’t loaded so no worries. However when I reached under the seat and pointed a .44 at them the smiles went away pretty fast. He sure put that gunm back in a hurry. I thought about ratting him out, Sarge was probably riding up front, but thought “Nah, they fcked up and learned a lesson, no use being a chicken shit.”

  10. avatar S.Crock says:

    Condition zero. The long trigger pull on the original lc9 is more than enough. I just wish it didn’t even have a safety.

    1. avatar TommyJay says:

      LC9 Pro doesn’t have a safety, if I remember. The one I’d like is the LC9s because it does have the safety, but it’s not legal for sale in CA.

      1. avatar Geoff "I'm getting too old for this shit" PR says:

        That long, heavy initial trigger pull is the safety, for all practical purposes…

  11. avatar WI Patriot says:

    1911, Condition 1…EDC…
    DA semi, Condition 2…
    Wheelgun, Condition 2…no external safety…

  12. avatar Jay in Florida says:

    Condition 1
    Officers 1911.
    IWB
    Only way that counts……………………………to me.

  13. avatar Latemarch says:

    My striker fired pistol has a round chambered.
    It’s in a holster that covers the trigger.
    There is no cocked hammer but there is no safety lever either.
    I figure that’s somewhere between Condition 1 and Condition 0

    1. avatar Latemarch says:

      Actually there is a safety lever….but I’ve never used it. It’s too small and stiff.

    2. avatar Gov. William J Le Petomane says:

      Most striker pistols place the striker in a half-cock position when fired/racked. So that would be somewhere between 2 and 0, but not 1.

  14. avatar Grumpy says:

    LC9S pro, no external safety, round chambered and full mag inserted. I guess that’s a sort of 0.
    I always carry and train the same. I don’t need to worry about which “condition” my weapon is in when SHTF. Muscle memory and minimum of manual manipulations.
    And the only real safety in between my ears.

  15. avatar DJ says:

    1911 Condition 1 cocked and locked.

    S&W revolvers all chambers loaded.

    Refuse to carry a Glock. Watched too many videos of people shooting themselves. I don’t want anyone around me with a Glock.

    1. avatar rosignol says:

      It’s not the Glock, it’s the shooter.

      If you’re carrying a Glock, you should practice re-holstering until taking your finger off the trigger when re-holstering is automatic muscle memory. The reason so few people do this is because it’s hard to find a range that allows drawing from a holster, firing, and re-holstering. You usually have to go out in the boonies to practice that, and some people don’t have convenient boonies.

      I’ve been carrying a Glock for >20 years, and have yet to shoot myself in the leg (or anywhere else).

      1. avatar DJ says:

        Well you nailed it. How do I know who is and who isn’t? I treat everyone which a Glock the same. I don’t want to be around you. Especially the “highly trained” LEO.

      2. avatar Friends Don't Let Friends Buy Glocks says:

        @rosignol

        “…I’ve been carrying a Glock for >20 years, and have yet to shoot mysel….BANG!

        Just rename yourself Lee Paige and be done with it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trlPcDg-B4E

        Amazing, it’s always a glock guy.

        1. avatar Ranger Rick says:

          Poor Lee can never escape his past.🙄

  16. avatar D says:

    There’s only two carry positions
    1 loaded and ready to fire
    (Cocked and locked for 1911, chamber loaded for others)
    2 wrong

    1. avatar Rad Man says:

      Yes, indeed. You’re gambling any other way.

  17. avatar former water walker says:

    I carry with a round chambered and safety engaged. The safety is quite EZ to disengage…

  18. avatar daveinwyo says:

    My LCP and LC9 are round chambered. As is my Sig. Point and shoot. My old .22 single six is 6 ready to go. The transfer bar prevents drop/fire. All of my shotguns or rifles are round chambered with safety on as available. Israel carry is the same as empty in my mind. The LC9 is the old model with an external safety. I practice taking the safety off. I love point and shoot. I agree with above statement ref glocks and NGs

    1. avatar daveinwyo says:

      I meant negligent Discharge.

  19. avatar Marty says:

    I’m back to being able to carry my full size Sig’s once again. No safety, just draw and trigger. Been carrying them for decades with zero safety problems.

  20. avatar MyName says:

    Which condition is “Ready to go BANG if I need it in a hurry”? That one is what I use.

  21. avatar strych9 says:

    0 for strikers, 2ish for DA/SA, round in the chamber, hammer down, safety off.

    Regardless of the kind of gun it’s one in the pipe in a condition where it’s draw, aim, squeeze, bang. I still practice thumbing off the safety for drawing on the USP since the design of the lever combined with a IWB holster can and sometimes will move the safety to whatever position you didn’t have it in.

  22. avatar Rusty Chains says:

    Use to carry 1911 condition one, but a Glock or a Shield is so much lighter. Oh, and I always carry with a round in the chamber, just keep your finger off the bang switch and all will be well! Call me spoiled, but while I am more accurate with a 1911, I just can’t justify the limited round count, or the extra weight.

    1. avatar Marty says:

      I have a Springfield 1911 45 alloy frame and slide. Much lighter than any other 1911 I’ve owned and shoots like a dream. Still not as light as my Shield 9mm, but carried it for years and loved it. Now, it’s my bedside gun. Always carried it cocked and locked.

      1. avatar Lon Loren says:

        A Superlight Commander is very light and fast handling. A 38 Super with a 10 rd magazine and + 1 in the chamber is adequate. The 38 Super is old fashioned, I prefer it to 9 mm.

    2. avatar tdiinva says:

      First round to hit in a DGU wins. Far better to carry a heavy pistol with high first round hit probability than a lightweight that you are going to miss the bad guy with.

      1. avatar Gov. William J Le Petomane says:

        Careful tdi, you’re almost sounding like a revolver man there…

  23. avatar kahlil says:

    So a revolver is Condition 2? 😉

    Both Berettas I carry have a decocker, so there’s one in the pipe with the hammer down and safety off. As far as I am concerned this is just as safe as the revolver I sometimes carry due to the decent DA trigger when carried this way. If I carry off body (which I have to do occasionally) I *might* engage the safety on whatever Beretta I might be carrying that day. This gives the benefit of the trigger being pulled but no bang if I ever lose contact with the carry bag and the gun is retrieved or I somehow drop the gun while retrieving it from the backpack or shoulder bag.

  24. avatar Grumpster says:

    I CCW Glock 19 or Walther PPS. Empty chamber with loaded magazine inserted. I feel very confident doing such for my personal situation.

    1. avatar SKP5885 says:

      You are the first to admit to Israeli carry. I guess I will be the second. I have an almost 7 year old at home and although I teach him and trust him, I don’t trust him 100%. Closer to 99.95%. My chances of needing my EDC for a defensive use is less than that, so that is why I carry with a mag in but nothing chambered. Better safe than sorry. On a side note he has very good trigger disapline and whenever we are watching a movie and someone doesn’t he always points it out. Makes me a little proud.

      1. avatar strych9 says:

        Changing your habits to suit a different situation, or your specific situation, isn’t anything to be ashamed of. Anyone who tells you otherwise is ignorant, an idiot or an asshole (I might be the latter but I still won’t tell you what you’re doing is wrong in this case because you’ve given a reasonable explanation).

        You’ve switched to an empty chamber for a very valid reason. You know that you’re human and can make a mistake where a kid can get a hold of the gun and also make a mistake once he has the gun. The combination could be a tragic situation and therefore you’re take a step to mitigate the chances that a mistake becomes a complete disaster. “Raise him better” or “Just don’t let him get the gun” isn’t a very realistic way to look at the world. Shit happens and when that shit involves curious kids and dangerous objects things can go sideways real fast. Guns, chainsaws, certain chemicals. They’re all the same in that regard.

        No shame in what you’re at all. Honest people would call your actions “smart” because you’re assessing the risk levels reasonably accurately and changing your behavior to suit a changing situation the fact that you can rationally articulate why you’re doing what you’re doing is just icing on the proverbial cake.

        1. avatar strych9 says:

          *in what you’re doing

      2. avatar grumpster says:

        I believe a lot more people carry with none in the chamber than may believe. A lot won’t admit on a forum because usually much ridicule follows with numerous “get more training comments”. I could care less what the big names in training recommend.

        Like I said “for my personal situation”. I am retired now and don’t leave the house that much and when I do it generally is very close by. I live in very low crime area and probably have a greater chance of getting struck by lightning than have to discharge my weapon in self defense. So I have made the decision to eliminate possibility of my weapon discharging via a ND or AD, which can result in extreme dire consequences, in exchange for taking about .25 second longer to load in case a SD ever does require it. I feel extreme obligation for safety of innocents around me, including my wife, while I am CCW a weapon. I also don’t ever go to liquor stores, bars, strip clubs, convenience stores, gambling dens, or other “bad” areas. I also to not associate with gang members, drug dealers, prostitutes, bookies, loan sharks, or anyone else that engages in illicit activities. I am careful to choose where to park my car and am on higher alert going through parking lots. Situational awareness and avoidance are key parts of my staying out of troubles way. Some might say I lead a boring life but so be it. I feel the biggest risk by far is not being able to be armed in “gun free zones” . I try to avoid those as much as possible but there are times for me that is unavoidable.

        I am not trying to tell anyone else what they should do as far as how they carry a handgun, just what works for me.

        1. avatar Klaus Von Schmitto says:

          Well said and more power to you. I myself have prayed for a boring life before. Now I have one too and I’m grateful for it.

  25. avatar Gadsden Flag says:

    I have a good friend who used to spend about six months a year training the SADF, or maybe they’re national police. I forget. Anyway, according to Mike they used Israeli carry also. Although he argued against it, his SA counterpart had been in nine pistol fights and killed men in the double digits. Hard to argue with success. Of course, it all comes down to training, but wait. Training? We don’t need no stinking training! For you youngsters, Treasure of the Sierra Madre. Humphrey Bogart. Check it out.

    1. avatar Jedi Wombat says:

      Was he the instigator of said pistol fights? Seems to me that if bad guy one had his gun out and ready to go, and you have to draw, cock, and fire, unless you’re Bob Munden, or the other guy is Barney Fife, you’re gonna lose that one training or no. Now if you’re doing dynamic entry and you’re the guy with the pistol and shield, chances are you’re no longer running the empty chamber no? Not enough info anecdotal or not to qualify as useful sir.

      1. avatar Gadsden Flag says:

        Jedi, from what Mike told me his SA counterpart had been/was part of an anti-bank robbery squad. Often waiting inside the bank based on intelligence. Loaded mag, clear chamber. Suspects often entered with AKs as well as handguns. Watched several of the videos. Problem for the bad guys, was they had no training. They were just pulling it out their ass. But, most of the people on this thread, as previously noted, don’t need any training. Born with all the combat skills they will ever need.

        1. avatar Gadsden Flag says:

          And Jedi? Really? You’re a Jedi? Just whip out the old light saber and bat the bullets away.

  26. avatar DamnYankee says:

    Oh look, a bon fire. Let me get some gasoline for that.

    1. avatar DamnYankee says:

      For the record. I carry an unloaded gun and two unloaded mags. I have a sandwich bag with all the ammo, in my 5.11 cargo pants and will load up if I need it. I also carry 5 knives and two tactical fleshlights in case of zombies. But yea, zombies are slow so I can load up when Im ready, no reason to risk hurting myself by carrying a loaded gun that could go off.

      1. avatar Gadsden Flag says:

        Damn Yankee, I’m a bit confused. As long as you’re up there we don’t care how you do it. Just as long as you guys would stay up there.

        1. avatar Gadsden Flag says:

          And that sounds just like how a Damn Yankee would carry his shit. Except, I thought the ammo would be left at home, the blades would all be plastic and the lights would have dead batteries. Oh, the pistol would be CO2. Negating the need for the ammo anyway.

      2. avatar Restless Rebel says:

        Funny. I get your humor, Yankee. Only a moron wouldn’t.

      3. avatar Klaus Von Schmitto says:

        I hope it’s at least a ziplock bag.

  27. avatar james e michael says:

    Have carried my 1911 frames in condition 1 with no issues since 1965 . Will continue to do so . You fight like you train .

  28. avatar UpInArms says:

    I have a Walther P99 SA/DA with a decocker. I leave a round in the chamber, decock the pistol, and rely on the long pull of DA to keep things (sort of) safe.

    So, Condition 1? Condition 0?

    1. avatar uncommon_sense says:

      UpInArms,

      I guess none of the 1911 pistol carry conditions covers your SA/DA pistol configuration which is effectively the same as a revolver with cartridges in all of the cylinders.

      Call it Condition 1.5 ???

      1. avatar Klaus Von Schmitto says:

        Has to be called something. The millions of Beretta 92’s/M9 all work the same way. Chamber one, decock, put in holster, draw, pull trigger., shoot something/someone.

  29. avatar Hoyden says:

    Props for EMP C3

  30. avatar Minuteman says:

    Hammer fired DA\SA , decocked, safety off, round in the chamber. Same as any DA revolver in my opinion.

  31. avatar GlockMeAmadeus says:

    The Democrat Fairness In Self Defense Act of 2020 will require concealed carriers to have their gun field stripped and carried in seperate pockets, with a 1 Hour Waiting Period to load ammunition to give police a chance to respond to your mugging situation. If, after an hour, you are still alive and the gender neutral police dont respond, you can then assemble your gun and load it to fend off the attack.

    It will be Condition -0

  32. avatar John in Ohio says:

    I usually open carry a 1911 as my primary and that is in Condition 1. I used to open carry a birdshead grip Vaquero shorty in .45 ACP as my primary, in Condition 2 of course, before moving back into the city. Either are carried in their own Tom Threepersons holster. I have OWB concealment holsters and a shoulder holster for them but rarely ever carry that way.

  33. avatar uncommon_sense says:

    I carry revolvers in Condition 2.

    I carry all striker-fired pistols in Condition 0.*

    * I carry all striker-fired pistols in “Condition 0” in a properly fitting holster that covers the entire trigger guard.

    And I only carry striker-fired pistols that have internal trigger safeties which all-but-guarantee that they cannot go “Bang!” unless something pulls the trigger. (In other words I want to be certain that they cannot discharge while they are in a holster which covers the entire trigger guard.)

    1. avatar uncommon_sense says:

      I just realized that Condition 2 describes single-action revolvers and yet fails to characterize double-action revolvers.

      At any rate, I carry revolvers with cartridges in all of the cylinders and the hammer down which requires a long (and stiff) trigger pull for double-action firing — or pulling the hammer back and single-action trigger pull to fire.

  34. avatar Ogre says:

    1911 – Condition 1
    Striker fire DAO – Condition 0
    Got a couple Bersas with decockers that I would carry in Condition 2 (if I carried them)

  35. avatar How_Terrible says:

    I carry in condition two since my usual carry weapon is a S&W 3913.

  36. avatar enuf says:

    Condition 1 on my 1911. Nothing else makes any sense to me.

    On striker fired guns, a round chambered and safety on.

    On old SA/DA revolvers with a firing pin on the hammer, not the frame, I’d load six and set the hammer down between rounds. Don’t know if all wheel guns will do that but ones I have owned, worked fine.

  37. avatar Kilgore, Col. Retired says:

    So on these new not sawed off non-shotgun, non-pistol firearms , a couple in the tube, none in the chamber, safety off, pump/slide forward to close the action against dirt is condition 12/20/410?? Shuck it, wake up Charlie, your alarm clock’s going off.

  38. avatar Ted Unlis says:

    Back in the early 80’s when the only two centerfire handguns I owned were my Colt Python and Browning Hi-Power, I often carried the latter as an off duty weapon in a small of the back inside waistband position. I always carried the Browning HP in Condition 3. Today I’ll occasionally put my carry pistol (now the P365) in Condition 3 if I’m staying over at a friend or relatives house where there are younger children around.

  39. avatar jammy says:

    Condition 5, Belt loaded, bolt back, safety off…

  40. avatar AZgunner says:

    I carry a Glock 22 on duty. Round in the chamber. I carry a Glock 26 off duty. Round in the chamber. Carrying a striker fired pistol any other way and thinking you’ll be able to deploy it in time is wishful thinking. An unloaded gun is a paperweight at best.

  41. avatar Hugh Glass says:

    Well, I guess you move in certain circles, you meet certain people.

  42. avatar Grumpy Old Guy says:

    I don’t carry antiques such as a 1911 where you have all these different conditions. A carry gun or a night stand gun are loaded and ready to go. The others are empty and locked up. Nothing between to get confused about. My mentality follows the 4 basic rules all the time because I never get lulled into a false sense of there is a safety on or a heavy trigger to protect against an ND.

  43. avatar raptor jesus says:

    0 with my Glock or Taurus
    2 with my DASA Sig Sauer
    Not sure what my DAO revolvers qualify as . . . . . 2?

  44. avatar Joe Shmoe says:

    I carry a P226, round chambered, hammer down (DA/SA).
    Although it is a rather different pistol than the 1911, this is essentially condition 0 carry, as there is no other action required to fire the gun than point & click.

  45. avatar James W Crawford says:

    Smith and Wesson Third Generation pistol, either in 9mm, .45 or 10mm in various frame sizes and magazine capacities.

    Condition 3.

    Loaded magazine inserted.
    Round in the chamber.
    Hammer down.
    Safety engaged.

    The S&W 3rd Generation safety is also a decocking lever. Engaging the safety rotates the firing pin so that is no longer in alignment with either the hammer or the primer of the chambered cardridge. The ONLY way you can get this pistol to discharge with the safety engaged is to stick it in an oven and bake it until a round cooks off.

    Oh Yes, magazine disconnect safety renders the gun inoperable when you remove the magazine so it can not discharge even if a round is chambered and the manual safety is off.

    Why in the Hell would anyone carry anything else.

  46. avatar Hajji says:

    I carry condition 3, my job is not to kill my attacker but to remove myself from danger. If I find myself in a situation where I cannot draw my gun and rack the slide…..I have failed the situational awareness test.

  47. avatar ozzallos says:

    We had to pull aside a pretty little blonde for the pistol in her bag. Seeing the mag inseryed, we ask if it was chambered. She says heavans no! My first thought: why not? 🙂

    1. avatar ozzallos says:

      Oh. 1911 in condition z for me, thanks.

  48. avatar Jim S. says:

    I carry in Tactical Condition Butterscotch!

  49. avatar Terry Dean says:

    Ruger P-90, 45 ACP, Condition 1 at all times unless being reloaded or cleaned.

  50. avatar Gideon Rockwell says:

    I carry a 1911 so, if my holster I am using has no thumbreak strap I full load and lower the hammer. I have used a Bianchi Blackwidow slide w/thumbreak as one of my main carry holsters for over thirty years and carry cocked and locked when using it with the strap between the hammer and the back of the slide.

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