It’s a busy week for new subcompact guns. There’s a race on to meet the new subcompact capacity standard set by SIG with their P365 a couple of years ago. Now Smith & Wesson is out with an extension of their excellent M2.0 line. The M&P M2.0 Subcompact is 12+1 in 9mm and is available in .40 and .45, too.
Here’s their press release . . .
SPRINGFIELD, Mass., (October 2, 2019) – Smith & Wesson Inc. announced today that it has introduced the M&P M2.0 Subcompact pistol to its M&P M2.0 pistol series. The latest addition to the M2.0 family, the M&P M2.0 Subcompact pistol features a smaller, subcompact frame that’s ideal for concealed carry. With a 12+1 round capacity in 9mm, the M&P M2.0 Subcompact pistol series includes the full array of M&P M2.0 enhancements. Available in 9mm, 40 S&W, and 45 Auto, the M&P M2.0 Subcompact joins the existing Full Size and Compact pistol options that are available in the M2.0 line.
Jan Mladek, General Manager of Smith & Wesson and M&P brands, said, “As the M&P M2.0 pistol series has continued to expand, we have worked to introduce pistols that fit a variety of different needs: from professional use, to recreational shooting, to home defense, to concealed carry. The M&P M2.0 Subcompact is designed for every day carry – its shorter frame makes it more concealable while still maintaining a higher double-stack magazine capacity. One constant across the M&P M2.0 series – whether it’s a Full Size, Compact, or Subcompact pistol – is the legendary reliability and shootability of the M&P pistol.”
Smith & Wesson
The M&P M2.0 Subcompact pistols ship with two magazines, including two magazine extender sleeves for use with M2.0 full-size and compact magazines, as well as a limited warranty and lifetime service policy. The new M&P M2.0 Subcompact is available with or without an ambidextrous thumb safety and is chambered in 9mm, 40 S&W, and 45 Auto, with an MSRP starting at $569.
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It’s the TRUTH!!! Since the innovation of Glock pistols or all the money they were making from them, it’s as though they lost all the innovative energy that made them a powerhouse and to where they’re at!!! They will have to change or they will continue to fall out out of favor completely!
Yep, nothing really new from S&W other than to update to 2.0. I would take the M&P Compact 3.6 though over it as it really is not all that much taller.
Looks like S&W is feeling some competition from guns like the Taurus G2 line and the SIG 365 Compact. Although I haven’t seen the specs, this new M&P offering appears to be about the same size – only difference is price (compared to the Taurus) and that it’s also offered in .45 ACP.
If .40 was dead, why did S&W just release this in .40?
It’s not dead, it’s just not more popular than 9mm or .45 is right now. And if you’re going to call .40 dead, then by that rule every other semi auto pistol caliber is also dead, including .357 Sig.
The .40 is dead just like the 30-06 is dead. I read an article last month declaring the 30-06 as dead. Nope. As long as people buy them they aren’t dead.
No sir, .40 is alive and kicking. 9s are great for sissy limp wristing, non placement shooters who need more firepower to throw bullets at the Target in hopes of hitting it.
You sound like someone that scores less than A grade on IPSC or less than Master in SSP, ESP, CDP in IDPA. 🙂
Basically talking on the interwebs vs practicing. The 9mm is better for more than what you say it is for limp wristing, etc. I’ve literally haven’t posted a comment for 10 years online and had to post these when I read your stupidity. HA HA HA
You must also be in a non-service occupation because you don’t understand the value of firepower; one of those “God-CalibUR” guys that talks big and yet when he shows up to the regional IDPA or IPSC fails to place in the top ten percent. XD HA hA Haaaaa Get a life. Over and out. I will be traveling OCONUS and won’t have time to check back here to see if you left a limp-dick reply. Get a life Brother. Also….get some training. See you on the other side. <3
Just an observation from the sidelines: .40cal is a wimpy 10mm.
Does this mean all those “Shields” are just boat anchors, now?
They copied glock except u still have to take the rear sight off to strip it down for cleaning…must of been a commie engineer who came up with that fail.
@ Various Ranges numerous M&P’s including Customs have failed out of the box.
Glock’s always works & mags & parts/addons/upgrades are dirt cheap….
U trust ur & ur families life to a failed gun like the failed p365 & other failed broken Sigs & M&P’s with no quality control!
Sigs paperclips for springs really a nice fail…….SNAP…. just in time 4 that gun fight were u all die!
I know quite a few so called experienced gun people who ignore the failings of the 365 over & over. That design & strike made from mem parts that fail…not if..but, when!
I once went to the local range to rent a Glock. Was trying to decide .40 vs .45.
At first glance, the Glock was FILTHY! OK, whatever. I’m a bit OCD when it comes to cleanliness. Sent 25 rounds down range in the .40. Then another 25 in the .45.
As I returned the pistols, I asked the Desk Dude, “These Glocks are really dirty. How often do you clean them?”
“We clean them whenever they fail”, he said.
“When was the last time they failed?”, I asked.
“Never”, replied the Desk Dude. The Desk Dude went on to explain that Glock set up a pistol in a test jig to see how many rounds it would fire without failing. Glock stopped the test after a million rounds.
Now, I don’t know if that story is true, but I’ve only had one FTF and one FTE in the Glock. Both were due to the ammo. Moral of the story: reload your own ammo, because the commercial stuff isn’t reliable enough.
I’m sorry, but at the local range the Glocks start failing after 5,000 to 7,000 rounds. The striker cavity fills up with carbon and you get light strikes.
They rent Sigs and Glocks as they are the most reliable and last to 1.5 million rounds. Both are used 2,000 to 7,000 rounds per week.
S&W are great. Reliable. They are too worn to rent after 500,000 rounds. If I put $100,000 of ammo through a gun, I’m OK replacing it.
I’ve had 3 malfunctions in Sig’s after 40,000 rounds through them. 183 in my Glock after 2,500 rounds. As an engineer, I figured out the issue, Glock went to sloppy spring tolerances to cut costs. As I replace springs to the old tolerances, the issues go away. I’ve even had light strikes.
Glocks are good, but not all that.
Embrace the Fail!,
Wo.w .i ha…..d 1 hE1l of a time try’n 2 read ur comment!
Apparently commenter Embrace the Fail! figured it was important to share his/her thoughts with others, which I commend. Note that no one will be able to share your thought when they cannot understand what you wrote because you failed to write your thought in decent English. In the future please skip the abbreviations and goofy spellings and use decent punctuation. No one is suggesting that we have to write in perfect English. What I am saying is that we need to write with decent spelling and punctuation if we want people to understand us.
It’s basically a M&P 1.0 compact with the M2.0 features it’s somewhere between a subcompact and a compact sized gun I hated the sized my 1.0 M&P and sold it quickly I would have liked it better if it was closer in size to a Glock 26.
I had the gen 1, I liked it but I sold it to buy the 2.0 9c just for the grip texture.
However I don’t plan to buy this one since I bought the shield. I’m more interested in the 43x or whatever it is especially if that one company comes out with steel mags for it that allow it to hold 15 rounds and not make it bigger.
I have a 1.0 9C. It’s my primary carry gun, and supremely reliable, but I don’t love it. Too fat, and I just don’t shoot it as well as I’d like. Often times, I just carry my 5 inch barreled 1.0 9 Pro Series. Now THAT’S a gun even a guy like me can shoot.
It is a good gun but I liked my FS 1.0 M&P better than the 1.0 Compact I just hated the size. The M2.0 4″ Compact is almost the perfect gun if it had the grip texture of 1.0 that would be the gun I’d carry every day instead of my Gen 3 Glock 19.
What I’m wondering about is if it’s 45. Couldn’t help but wonder if it was a typo, but it seems to specifically say that this model will be in 45 as well. I already have a shield 45 so I’m not sure what good it would do me, but still intrigued if it is. Overall I found the gen 1 models underwhelming though.
Good that they finally did this but now with the Hellcat and P365 “micro” stack-and-half seems the way things are going. Back to the drawing board S&W. And not knocking S&W for this because it does complete the 2.0 family, just they are running behind.
Seems like S&W should have taken the shield and widen the grip. It’s already a stack and a half, so widening it could have easily made it a 10-12 round magazine. S&W only went back and revised something they have already done that probably won’t do well instead of being Innovative like they usually are. They should have double stacked the “Shield”or the “Bodyguard” in 9mm and that could easily be 12 rounds right out of the gate. They’re just reacting instead of being proactive. I would rather just have a 3.6” 2.0 compact and be done.
Everytime I finally decide on my next purchase, TTAG publishes a new product release. Daggnabbit!
I am going to revise my strategy. Watch how the new products drive down prices on existing inventory. Pick up a deal, or used. Lower purchase prices = more guns.
I’ve only been at this since Trump was elected. I am learning. The day after he won was my first day at the range.
My next gun buy will be the baby rock for those who are not familiar with that it is a rock island 1911 platform in 380 caliber. I don’t envision a spray and pray scenario. So 8 rounds should surfice, that’s double tapping four assailants. Carrying a couple spare magazines just balances out my belly band cc rig. For the bigger is better crowd. If I’m not close enough to damn near stick it up their noses or ears, I probably shouldn’t draw anyway. Might just be better to leave the area. Besides, according to the statistics I’ve read, more than 90 percent of all civilian shootings occurred ten feet, or less. I do have a rock island 1911 ms tact 2, 45 cal. Unbeatable platform, just a little more weight than I like for every day carry. The best way I have found to carry it is in a zipper Bible cover. That came with a foam filler that I carved out a niche for the pistol and two extra magazines. When I get the time I’ll sew a shoulder strap on it.
And as always, remember, glock sounds like a discarded result of a body function hitting the wall.
Taurus G2C has been out for over a year. Compact ccw pistol, 9mm comes with 2, 12 round magazines, adjustable rear sight, and you can find them for $200. Have yet to see a single bad review. Check it out on YouTube. Now that’s setting a new standard.
While it’s not that l dislike this new M&P 2.0 subcompact with a suggested retail of 565 dollars l would have to say the new Canik TP9 elite sc more than likely has a better trigger and reset and probably can be had for 350 dollars or under even if this new M&P sc could be had for 465 dollars my choice would be the Canik l do own a Shield 1.0 9mm but my wife liked it so much it’s her carry gun now l can tell you l don’t think S&W will sell many at the 500 dollar mark to much competition in the 320-499 dollar range that l think are just as good or better for conceal carry with a better trigger and reset l even like my Ruger SR9c talo edition better than this new S&W and the trigger is really good with a 20 dollar ghost trigger installed
” …l would have to say the new Canik TP9 elite sc more than likely has a better trigger and reset…”
Not a fan of any weapon made in the middle-East. Buying from there puts cash in the hands of unreliable people and allies. Canik-USA still contributes to Canik-Turkey corporate headquarters.
Agreed.
This is like the G43X/48. Going after a niche market without addressing the features the market really likes. Wide grips are not appealing to 40% of the market or so.
The shield revitalized S&W. It was a top seller 2012-2017, until the P365 walked in and took its lunch money. S&W needs another stand out product.
I’m still happy with my M&P SHIELD 9. Been carrying it for 5 years and see no need to change. I know it only holds 8+1. I carry extra mag and hope I only need 1 rnd to start with.
I will take that hellcat and p365 and raise you an M&P!
Ok, who can do 13 rounds? FN, CZ? You in?
Give it a few decades and Glock will catch on and offer their version. No the G26, 43, or 48 do not count.
It’s the TRUTH!!! Since the innovation of Glock pistols or all the money they were making from them, it’s as though they lost all the innovative energy that made them a powerhouse and to where they’re at!!! They will have to change or they will continue to fall out out of favor completely!
Since it accepts the full-size and compact 2.0 magazines, it’s basically a 2.0 9C it sounds like? So it won’t be nearly as slim as the 365 or Hellcat.
Yep, nothing really new from S&W other than to update to 2.0. I would take the M&P Compact 3.6 though over it as it really is not all that much taller.
Looks like S&W is feeling some competition from guns like the Taurus G2 line and the SIG 365 Compact. Although I haven’t seen the specs, this new M&P offering appears to be about the same size – only difference is price (compared to the Taurus) and that it’s also offered in .45 ACP.
I’ll take mine in .40 with the thumb saftey. Just to piss off the gun snobs lol.
40 is dead
If .40 was dead, why did S&W just release this in .40?
It’s not dead, it’s just not more popular than 9mm or .45 is right now. And if you’re going to call .40 dead, then by that rule every other semi auto pistol caliber is also dead, including .357 Sig.
The .40 is dead just like the 30-06 is dead. I read an article last month declaring the 30-06 as dead. Nope. As long as people buy them they aren’t dead.
No sir, .40 is alive and kicking. 9s are great for sissy limp wristing, non placement shooters who need more firepower to throw bullets at the Target in hopes of hitting it.
You sound like someone that scores less than A grade on IPSC or less than Master in SSP, ESP, CDP in IDPA. 🙂
Basically talking on the interwebs vs practicing. The 9mm is better for more than what you say it is for limp wristing, etc. I’ve literally haven’t posted a comment for 10 years online and had to post these when I read your stupidity. HA HA HA
You must also be in a non-service occupation because you don’t understand the value of firepower; one of those “God-CalibUR” guys that talks big and yet when he shows up to the regional IDPA or IPSC fails to place in the top ten percent. XD HA hA Haaaaa Get a life. Over and out. I will be traveling OCONUS and won’t have time to check back here to see if you left a limp-dick reply. Get a life Brother. Also….get some training. See you on the other side. <3
Just an observation from the sidelines: .40cal is a wimpy 10mm.
Does this mean all those “Shields” are just boat anchors, now?
What were they before?
“What were they before?”
Oh, that’s tacky.
How does it compare to a Shield?
Thicker, it would probably be similar in size but thicker.
I own a shield and owned a first gen 9C (which appears very similar to this) and the size seemed about the same, but the 9c was thicker.
They copied glock except u still have to take the rear sight off to strip it down for cleaning…must of been a commie engineer who came up with that fail.
@ Various Ranges numerous M&P’s including Customs have failed out of the box.
Glock’s always works & mags & parts/addons/upgrades are dirt cheap….
U trust ur & ur families life to a failed gun like the failed p365 & other failed broken Sigs & M&P’s with no quality control!
Sigs paperclips for springs really a nice fail…….SNAP…. just in time 4 that gun fight were u all die!
I know quite a few so called experienced gun people who ignore the failings of the 365 over & over. That design & strike made from mem parts that fail…not if..but, when!
Cool story bro…..
I want one, just sayin.
Blah blah blah.
Glocks fail too Mr Fanboy
I once went to the local range to rent a Glock. Was trying to decide .40 vs .45.
At first glance, the Glock was FILTHY! OK, whatever. I’m a bit OCD when it comes to cleanliness. Sent 25 rounds down range in the .40. Then another 25 in the .45.
As I returned the pistols, I asked the Desk Dude, “These Glocks are really dirty. How often do you clean them?”
“We clean them whenever they fail”, he said.
“When was the last time they failed?”, I asked.
“Never”, replied the Desk Dude. The Desk Dude went on to explain that Glock set up a pistol in a test jig to see how many rounds it would fire without failing. Glock stopped the test after a million rounds.
Now, I don’t know if that story is true, but I’ve only had one FTF and one FTE in the Glock. Both were due to the ammo. Moral of the story: reload your own ammo, because the commercial stuff isn’t reliable enough.
I’m sorry, but at the local range the Glocks start failing after 5,000 to 7,000 rounds. The striker cavity fills up with carbon and you get light strikes.
They rent Sigs and Glocks as they are the most reliable and last to 1.5 million rounds. Both are used 2,000 to 7,000 rounds per week.
S&W are great. Reliable. They are too worn to rent after 500,000 rounds. If I put $100,000 of ammo through a gun, I’m OK replacing it.
I’ve had 3 malfunctions in Sig’s after 40,000 rounds through them. 183 in my Glock after 2,500 rounds. As an engineer, I figured out the issue, Glock went to sloppy spring tolerances to cut costs. As I replace springs to the old tolerances, the issues go away. I’ve even had light strikes.
Glocks are good, but not all that.
Embrace the Fail!,
Wo.w .i ha…..d 1 hE1l of a time try’n 2 read ur comment!
n i still not sur …, … if I un’stood it!
U lernt 2 write @ hom or skool?
Apparently commenter Embrace the Fail! figured it was important to share his/her thoughts with others, which I commend. Note that no one will be able to share your thought when they cannot understand what you wrote because you failed to write your thought in decent English. In the future please skip the abbreviations and goofy spellings and use decent punctuation. No one is suggesting that we have to write in perfect English. What I am saying is that we need to write with decent spelling and punctuation if we want people to understand us.
Nice parody!!
I use shoe-alee juz pazon the weeredly in-crypt-ed posts, but seen-ass it werz urz, I took-alook.
Hats off 2 U, U_C!
No hable’ Esperanto.
Didn’t even bother reading it.
You may be right on all of your points. I can’t say for sure though. I don’t think we speak the same language.
I’ve seen plenty of Glocks fail.
I even own a couple.
Yawn.
So a G26 sized S&W M2.0?
It’s basically a M&P 1.0 compact with the M2.0 features it’s somewhere between a subcompact and a compact sized gun I hated the sized my 1.0 M&P and sold it quickly I would have liked it better if it was closer in size to a Glock 26.
I hated the size*
I had the gen 1, I liked it but I sold it to buy the 2.0 9c just for the grip texture.
However I don’t plan to buy this one since I bought the shield. I’m more interested in the 43x or whatever it is especially if that one company comes out with steel mags for it that allow it to hold 15 rounds and not make it bigger.
I have a 1.0 9C. It’s my primary carry gun, and supremely reliable, but I don’t love it. Too fat, and I just don’t shoot it as well as I’d like. Often times, I just carry my 5 inch barreled 1.0 9 Pro Series. Now THAT’S a gun even a guy like me can shoot.
It is a good gun but I liked my FS 1.0 M&P better than the 1.0 Compact I just hated the size. The M2.0 4″ Compact is almost the perfect gun if it had the grip texture of 1.0 that would be the gun I’d carry every day instead of my Gen 3 Glock 19.
What I’m wondering about is if it’s 45. Couldn’t help but wonder if it was a typo, but it seems to specifically say that this model will be in 45 as well. I already have a shield 45 so I’m not sure what good it would do me, but still intrigued if it is. Overall I found the gen 1 models underwhelming though.
Good that they finally did this but now with the Hellcat and P365 “micro” stack-and-half seems the way things are going. Back to the drawing board S&W. And not knocking S&W for this because it does complete the 2.0 family, just they are running behind.
Seems like S&W should have taken the shield and widen the grip. It’s already a stack and a half, so widening it could have easily made it a 10-12 round magazine. S&W only went back and revised something they have already done that probably won’t do well instead of being Innovative like they usually are. They should have double stacked the “Shield”or the “Bodyguard” in 9mm and that could easily be 12 rounds right out of the gate. They’re just reacting instead of being proactive. I would rather just have a 3.6” 2.0 compact and be done.
It is much much cheaper to simp0ly extend the mag than it would be to design and build new mags and an all new gun to insert them in.
The shield is a bigger gun, the shield really isn’t that much smaller than the 9c 15rd variant it’s just slimmer.
Everytime I finally decide on my next purchase, TTAG publishes a new product release. Daggnabbit!
I am going to revise my strategy. Watch how the new products drive down prices on existing inventory. Pick up a deal, or used. Lower purchase prices = more guns.
I’ve only been at this since Trump was elected. I am learning. The day after he won was my first day at the range.
I’m thinking the same thing. Those “boatanchor” M&P Shields should go down another 25 bucks on gunbroker now.
If only it had a hammer and was made by CZ. I might try it. My P-07 needs a companion.
I hear the PCRs and P01s are nice.
In all seriousness, CZ claims to have a P10 Subcompact out – haven’t seen one, but they apparently exist.
My next gun buy will be the baby rock for those who are not familiar with that it is a rock island 1911 platform in 380 caliber. I don’t envision a spray and pray scenario. So 8 rounds should surfice, that’s double tapping four assailants. Carrying a couple spare magazines just balances out my belly band cc rig. For the bigger is better crowd. If I’m not close enough to damn near stick it up their noses or ears, I probably shouldn’t draw anyway. Might just be better to leave the area. Besides, according to the statistics I’ve read, more than 90 percent of all civilian shootings occurred ten feet, or less. I do have a rock island 1911 ms tact 2, 45 cal. Unbeatable platform, just a little more weight than I like for every day carry. The best way I have found to carry it is in a zipper Bible cover. That came with a foam filler that I carved out a niche for the pistol and two extra magazines. When I get the time I’ll sew a shoulder strap on it.
And as always, remember, glock sounds like a discarded result of a body function hitting the wall.
Taurus G2C has been out for over a year. Compact ccw pistol, 9mm comes with 2, 12 round magazines, adjustable rear sight, and you can find them for $200. Have yet to see a single bad review. Check it out on YouTube. Now that’s setting a new standard.
While it’s not that l dislike this new M&P 2.0 subcompact with a suggested retail of 565 dollars l would have to say the new Canik TP9 elite sc more than likely has a better trigger and reset and probably can be had for 350 dollars or under even if this new M&P sc could be had for 465 dollars my choice would be the Canik l do own a Shield 1.0 9mm but my wife liked it so much it’s her carry gun now l can tell you l don’t think S&W will sell many at the 500 dollar mark to much competition in the 320-499 dollar range that l think are just as good or better for conceal carry with a better trigger and reset l even like my Ruger SR9c talo edition better than this new S&W and the trigger is really good with a 20 dollar ghost trigger installed
” …l would have to say the new Canik TP9 elite sc more than likely has a better trigger and reset…”
Not a fan of any weapon made in the middle-East. Buying from there puts cash in the hands of unreliable people and allies. Canik-USA still contributes to Canik-Turkey corporate headquarters.
So if it can take full size mags that means it will be much thicker than the P365. Kind of misses the main feature of the P365.
Agreed.
This is like the G43X/48. Going after a niche market without addressing the features the market really likes. Wide grips are not appealing to 40% of the market or so.
The shield revitalized S&W. It was a top seller 2012-2017, until the P365 walked in and took its lunch money. S&W needs another stand out product.
I’m still happy with my M&P SHIELD 9. Been carrying it for 5 years and see no need to change. I know it only holds 8+1. I carry extra mag and hope I only need 1 rnd to start with.