“For the first time since the National Firearms Act (NFA) was created in 1934, civilians across the country can enjoy suppressed shooting with SilencerCo’s latest innovation: the integrally suppressed Maxim 50 muzzleloader,” the company’s website proclaimed. “In addition, this product can be purchased right now on the web with no regulation (no 4473, no $200 tax stamp, no photographs, and no fingerprints) and be shipped immediately to the customer with few exceptions.” Yeah, no . . .
SilencerCo’s Facebook page posted this announcement yesterday:
Upon launching the Maxim 50, SilencerCo received several immediate legal challenges from authorities and lawyers in the states of New Jersey, Massachusetts, and California. Since we have no desire to place any consumer in a situation where they may get arrested and charged with a felony because their state defines a firearm differently than the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE), we have placed orders from those states on hold and are refunding customers pending legal confirmation. We will update our customers as soon as we have multiple source verification.
Who could’ve seen that one coming?
You’d think The Golden State would have better things to do, what with a foxnews.com article revealing that the high-tax, high regulation state has a poverty rate of 20.4 percent vs. Texas’ 14.7 percent. if so, you’d be wrong.
Anyway, I can’t help but wonder if the Axis of Tyranny ranged against the $1k SilencerCo Maxim 50 will help sales in other states. And if this helps or hurts the anti-silencer campaign waging war on the biill deregulating silencers. Watch this space.
So are they going to rename it the Maxim 47?
Being the clever SOBs that they are, the Maxim 50 is a 50 caliber muzzleloader, which means no rename necessary.
Yeah. Duly noted. They also proudly referred to it as “50 state legal.”
Hence the… joke.
All 2A violations aside, those states banning the Max50 are just looking out for their citizens’ wallets. A $1000 silenced muzzleloader would have made a great April Fools joke.
Firearms legal for deer in Illinois include muzzleloaders, shotguns and handguns. Because of this, there is a robust market for muzzleloaders in Illinois, and I have no doubt many deer hunters would love to be able to hunt without ear pro or hearing loss.
WOW! I can’t believed I guessed the right states! (Sarc)Apparently, these states REALLY ARE against guns in general, as…..I don’t think anyone’s grandfather can remember the last time a school was shot up with a muzzle-loader.
Or the first time. Or any time.
Ile Saint-Marie, 1789 @ Blackbeard’s Finishing School for Pirate Kids, was the site of a terrible school shooting where a “sail-by” took place between the Captain Kidds and the Bilge Pumpers, over 12 small cannon were used, 73 kids were wounded in the incident, and countless pieces of eight were seized by the island governor, Captain Jeoffery Sessions.
Sad day……heheheh,
Huh. I guessed New York instead of Massachusetts.
Won’t be long though.
They should start calling it the Maxim Descending Number.
Same. I was sure “everything is a firearm” NJ was one. I was fairly certain everything but marijuana is illegal in California. That left New York, Massachusetts, and Hawaii as the most likely in my mind.
Nope, pot is still illegal under most circumstances here (i picked up on the sarcasm but bear with me). Cultivation, sales, transportaion, distribution, possessed quantity, and use (where and when) are all highly regulated…. its just that the procedural steps for cops to arrest, handle marijuana evidence, and then present the case (much less the DA’s work load and then convict) is disproportionate to the statutory crime itself… sort of like a “punishment by process” in reverse. You didnt actually think the state would give up power did you? The state can still come after you for weed. But, now it it can pick and choose who it goes after, tax a commodity in high demand, remove competition from the market, and make money for dirty politicians at all levels in the state. All bow to the benevolent state who forgives us our many sins (on average 3 felonies and dozens of misdemeanors a day).
Omg watch out for criminals using muzzle loaders now! Muzzle loaders are going to be the weapon of choice for criminals! Ummm not really. California thinks the bullet button is a speed loading device I guess a ramrod would be a super speedy loading device.
Waiting for Hollywood to release that new action thriller with the suspenseful scene of a ruthless assassin takes out the politicians niece with a Maxim 50 muzzle loader. All nice and quiet-like…
Like a fish!
Ha I could of told you this days ago!
Cali considers a 80% AR15 lower a GUN! yep a GUN! and it must have a serial number!
thanks for voting Dem cali and the feds for letting all the illegal aliens in to ruin the state for the last 30 years!!!!
So, no supressor tax stamp required for that?
It seems so.
If it’s permanently attached to the non-firearm muzzle-loader, then it apparently does not meet the NFA definition.
Apparently (actually I am guessing), a muzzle loader is an “antique firearm” that is not subject to the NFA, so one with an integral silencer is still an “antique firearm” not subject to regulation. This is where Silencerco went astray–it assume (wrongly) that the definition of antique firearms for the purpose of the NFA applied in all 50 states. But California, for one, has varying definitions of when an “antique firearm” is a “firearm,” sometimes it is, and sometimes it is not. And although it is uncharted territory, California apparently contends that it is a firearm for the purpose of the separate statute banning silencers (and the parts to build a silencer).
Well we all know how muzzle-loading, single shot rifles are the preferred firearm of all the major gangs and cartels operating in those states, as well as school shooters. They’re such a big part of criminal gun use, that muzzleloaders even appear in gangster movies like Scarface, Resevoir Dogs and Narcos. Muzzle loaders are also racist. Do you have any idea how much acreage was stolen from the Indians, er indigenous Americans by cis-gendered white men, wielding muzzle loaders? Firearms like this have no place in our modern society. Muzzle loaders were also the preferred firearm of the Redcoats used to oppress colonial Americans, including Crispus Attucks (more proof of the inherent racism of the muzzle loader). Every true American should be disgusted at the sight of these silenced muzzle loaders. Thank God there are still people and legislators in place like NJ, MA, and CA that have enough sense to ban these baby-killing, oppressive muzzleloaders found in every lynchmob ever.
And while you’re discussing racism, they use BLACK powder! OMG!
BTW, shouldn’t they be called the tri-axis of evil?
“Firearms like this have no place in our modern society.” I can honestly say that I agree with this. I could be wrong, but the only reason I can think of to own something like this is because of silly laws and regulations. (Like the NFA, GCA, and muzzle loading only seasons). Muzzle loading only seasons are the only reason to own a muzzle loader that was designed in the last two centuries. (This one and the 1900’s). I can see wanting a historical muzzle loader (real or reproduction).
It’s fun! Reason enough.
I see no reason to have lawyers in modern (polite) society.
See – I can have an opinion too.
I think more decent folks would agree with my statement than yours.
I guess you think there is no reason to own a compound bow, only “historic” bows.
It’s called the Bill of RIghts – not Bill of Reasons or Opinions.
Whatever.
Whoooo!
Good one Tex.
Thank you.
“I see no reason to have lawyers in modern (polite) society.”
But then who would I pay when I needed to purchase some justice?
A Pinkerton.
I just cannot believe that 47 states are about to have rivers of blood running in the streets! *50* calibers, many more than even 45, which will steal your granddaddy’s soul!! What is wrong with a good .9 mm?
Not to put too fine a point on it (see what I did there?), but if you’ve ever tried to ram a .9mm ball into a muzzle loader you would know what a pain in the butt a .9mm ramrod is to handle under stress. Not to mention getting those 2 or 3 grains of black powder (that stuff is coarse) into the barrel.
Use FFFFg (4F) powder. It’s only real use is priming pans on flintlocks, and getting a .9mm to a pretty decent velocity.
Now I am a firm believer in the Second Amendment, but the Founding Fathers never envisioned weaponry like this when they crafted the Second Amendment.
So when does yours arrive at your front door?ðŸ¤
You know what the Founding Fathers never envisioned? Free Americans like you making excuses to have our rights stripped from us.
They figured all the traitors and cowards had either been killed or chased out when the Brits left with their tails between their legs. Guess a few slipped in since then.
I think we just found out why the Old Sergeant is surly. He doesn’t get sarcasm.
Those state can’t have anything nice.
When a state deliberately encourages immigration by people without the skills to provide for themselves, it’s hardly surprising that it has a high poverty rate.
Yeah all listed are Commie sheet holes much as the plague.
So this gun I don’t want I can get in Illinois?!? Joy,rapture and surprise…😋
Awesome somebody build a drop in encore barrel with the suppressor offset and that the baffle system drops out for cleaning and we are talking.
I gotta say. That thing sounds dang fun.
I understand. We that SUFFER in commie one party controlled states, ARE NOT citizens. We are but unwashed little serfs and cash cows to be controlled, to have our hard earned monies stolen, to be outright pissed on by overlords that know whats best. For those of you that LIVE in free states, enjoy your life. But we give you this WARNING. Kalifornia like the other states mentioned, are like an STD. INFECTIOUS AND SPREADS.
Before reading the article, here are my bets:
Commiefornia, New Jersey, New York, DC, Massachusetts, Illinois. In that order. Let’s see who makes the race on not following the constitution. There are only 3 spots apparently in this case.
Maxim 50: If it only works in exactly the way the manufacturer intended, it is defective.
The anti 2nd group is getting more forcefull.
If Trump does not get a supreme court to fix this, there is only one option left.
Molon labe
MA resident here. What’s weird about this is this state has no problem with muzzleloaders. They’re not regulated any differently here than anywhere else. And I can go to any sporting goods store and pick up an air rifle with an attached suppressor.
This sounds to me like Maura “I Make The Gun Laws Now, B****” Healy found something for her to keep up her street cred with the Dems, since trying to strongarm Glock didnt work out so well, and while she waits to get sued for her aribtrary “assault weapons” ban. I would assume the case is the same in NJ and CA
Yeah, I immediately thought of Maura “Everything Not Democrat is Wrong” Healy as well.
Mystickal says:
September 21, 2017 at 14:48
Now I am a firm believer in the Second Amendment, but the Founding Fathers never envisioned weaponry like this when they crafted the Second Amendment.
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Mystickal
Like the founders never envisioned The Girandoni of 1790,a 22 shot suppressed/air .46 caliber rifles that they provided to The Journey of Discovery expedition in 1803-1804
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pqFyKh-rUI
“Now I am a firm believer in the Second Amendment, but the Founding Fathers never envisioned weaponry”
Every time I see someone make a statement like yours followed by the word But,I know that person doesn’t truly understand the Second amendment,good try.
I also think that the Founding Fathers never envisioned weaponry like this when they crafted the Second Amendment.
But it wouldn’t have been that much of a stretch. The muzzle loader was already invented, after all. All they had to do was come up with the suppressor.
I strongly suspect that was sarcasm
Slowly, silently, the sniper team crept over the hill and settled in for an ambush. As the spotter announced windage and elevation, the sniper adjusted his thermal vision scope. Then he relaxed and adjusted his breathing. When the spotter gave the command “Send it”, the sniper gave the trigger a slow and gentle squeeze. The rifle leaped in his hands as the fearsome 50 caliber bullet sped through the night towards it’s target.
Then the spotter called “high and right”, from his position several feet away from the black powder smoke cloud. The sniper leaped to his feet, pulling the ramrod, powder charge, and ball from his pack. Within 45 seconds, he was ready to send his second shot downrange, but the target was already halfway to the next town by then. Probably headed for a Taco Bell.
I’m sure the legicritters in Maryland will be all aglow with new bills to make this terrifying weapon verboten when they convene again next year. For two years in a row, they tried pushing through legislation to require a background check on muzzleloaders. A suppressed muzzleloader will leave their panties soaking with the possibilities for stupid new laws.
Who could’ve seen that one coming?
Stevie Wonder?
Ray Charles?
Jose Felieciano?
Helen Keller?
Two of them are still alive. Too soon.
By the way, what’s the definition of endless love? Ray Charles and Helen Keller playing tennis.
I have to wonder how many shots between the necessity for dismantling the suppressor for cleaning.
Sort of like I have to wonder how long it will be before clicking on “Notify me of follow-up comments by email” will work.