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On Monday we met Lone Star Arms honchos Mike and Christina Rogers at Best of the West in Liberty Hill. That’s where they demo’d their impressive, highly modified Saiga-12 IZ-433 for us, showing us just what the sometimes-maligned AK-patterned semi-auto shotguns are capable of when done up right. Watch this space for a full review next week. In the mean time, Mike took on sharpshot Kirsten Joy Weiss in a TP-blasting smoothbore showdown. Kirsten sported RF’s Benelli M4. Mike shot his upgraded Saiga. Who won? Watch the replay after the jump and you make the call . . .

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  1. What’s next “9mm vs 357” “Wheelgun vs Auto”, Iron’s vs Optics”?
    Those manufactured Tropes should have been banned, but (sigh) this is the internet so TP vs Shotgun is considered a viable distraction for it’s demographic

    • Yeah, I’d be the first to admit the shot might have been better with just Kirsten. Doesn’t she look great in it though?!

      Along with being an absolute top shot, Kirsten is as smart, genuine, and sweet as she is beautiful. It was a real pleasure to shoot with her.

      Mike Rogers

  2. VangComp Remington 870. Tighter shot pattern, reliable with all types of 12ga ammo, and the best part? Legal in all U.S. States and municipalities. Unlike the two shoguns in the photo above.

    • I think your missing the point dude. Its comparing 2 auto loaders. Not pumps vs auto loaders. And seriously, dont compare a Remington 870 to a Benelli M4. You are talking 2 VERY different guns in terms of quality. No sane human being that knows more than just basic knowledge of guns would ever try to compare an 870 to an M4. 870 is a great shotgun, have owned several. But they are not high quality shotguns. I think its even a stretch to compare a M4 with a Saiga, as they are jamomatic, piles of turd. They just look cool. They have multiple, consistent performance issues across the board. But at least the article is comparing 2 similar platforms. Comparing a pump to a auto loader is like comparing a revolver to a semi auto. Again, i think the point of this article went over your head. Save your 870 comment for an article that pertains to pump shotguns

  3. Saiga shotguns are undeniably cool.

    What’s cooler than an AK? An AK that shoots 12 gauge. That’s what.

  4. Now wait one minute here .. I see ONE old fart and one great shot with her Benelli ,, she also happens to be good looking. Now, what makes those two shotguns illegal? The Benelli M4 is legal anywhere that i can think of, but you might need to shorten the load tube is some jurisdictions. The Saiga? same thing pretty much.

    I use a 870 wingmaster with a Vang Comp barrel but I really likle the idea of that Benelli semi auto fire. My load tube sticks out about 1/2 inch longer than the barrel does but it doesn’t bother it too much, just gets some carbon buildup after a box or two. The Vang Comp barrel is the best I have found for self defense or just giving someone else heartburn, but it is not a hunting barrel at all. throws a real tight pattern with # 4 birdshot that can kill a cyote at 50 feet.. now that is tight patterning. The hole it put in that yote was smaller than a music CD, and it dropped him on the spot. #00 Buck can really trash something.

  5. I wanted to say Kirsten should wear some more appropriate footwear. But, on further reflection, I’m just fine with those high-heeled, knee-high, *leather* jobs.

  6. Are there any pix of Ms. Weiss where she looks happy? I know, guns are not a toy, and our need for them is no laughing matter, but I don’t think there’s anything wrong with letting a little joy seep into the equation somewhere sometime. You’ve got to admit, there’s a lot of comedy in the concept of defending yourself from killer toilet paper.

    Would Dirk have said something suggestive/inappropriate about those boots? I’m making a heroic effort here keeping my inner dirty old man from making off-color comments. Is “I think they’re hot” OK? And William, I’d bet actual money that they’re made of real leather.

  7. I didn’t know Kirsten was in Texas. I need to go to Best of the west more often…

    Hell, I may be moving to leander.

    • Just reread this and realized it looks creepy-stalkerish.

      If I move to Leander it’ll be because houses are cheaper… not because of this video with KJW at Best of the west.

      Had to clarify… the internet is a funny place.

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