No AR? No problem, according to Savage/Stevens. Both of these Model 320 ‘Security’ shotguns are in stock, and both of them can be yours for the princely MSRP of $540. That’s right, the MSRP is only $270 each. Actual street price is about $250.
Cheap pumps have a lot to recommend them when it comes to home defense. 00 buckshot is stunningly effective (as in “what just happened to that watermelon?”), it’s still in stock everywhere, and its price hasn’t gone up much during this Obama Panic.
And speaking of the Obama Panic, pump shotguns have such a long history as sporting and hunting arms (not that that has anything to do with the 2nd Amendment) that they’re likely to be among the last things banned if it comes to that. And let’s hope it doesn’t.
Mary of $270? Seems rather cheap–what gives?
Both of them imported from ATA in Turkey. Those ATA factories are going to be working overtime supplying tactical 12ga and 20ga shotguns to Stevens, Weatherby, and a bunch of others.
I immediately recognized that as CZ’s new 612 “Horde Control” Pump. Are these shotguns made in Turkey any good? I’ve heard tales of shoddy workmanship, but that was in regard to fancy sporting shotguns. What could they possibly mess up on a pump shotgun?
I know that Winchester’s Turkish pumps have chrome lined barrels, I thought that was odd. How about these?
My stepson has a Hatsan 12 ga. pump made in turkey. Rack the slide, take off the safety and it goes boom. Pretty much what i want in a pump shotgun.
No kidding. Why would one want a chrome-lined barrel on a 12-gauge?
Why not? It doesn’t increase the cost any and it makes the barrel’s more resistent to crud.
Much of the Winchester’s barrel design is a product of Browning their sister firm. The pumps are made in Turkey to Winchester’s design and specs.
I bought two ATA-sourced Weatherby 20ga semi-autos this past fall. They’ve been great.
Only complaint is that the recoil springs are too stiff to allow reliable functioning with lower-powered shells. 1oz birdshot shells (and anything heavier) work great. Hoping this will get better as the springs break in.
The American Rifleman review states both the Stevens 320 and 350 are imported from China, not Turkey.
These actions are identical to my old Sears and Roebuck. Not a Ted Williams, a real Sears.
That’s because ATA makes their guns based on older but reliable designs no longer covered by patents.
You are correct on reliability. My old sears isn’t as pretty but I’d put it against my wingmaster ad far ad going boom.
The ATF just tried to make a new “rule” last year banning certain shotguns.
Here is a link to the 320 pumps with four versions visually shown and several versions to choose from.
http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/finder/
I’ve been looking at the Winchester pump SXP camp/field combo that comes with an 18″ and a 26″ barrel. Street price is $400. It is a very fast cycling pump, has a rotating bolt to help reduce some kick, and with the larger diameter bore designed by Browning.
Anyone know how Savage’s quality compares to Winchester for pumps?
Got the Stevens. Bought it 2 years ago at the lgs for $235. It is clearly marked “Made in China”. It had a break-in period of about 70 rounds before everything started working perfect. But never had a problem with it and it’s a perfect trunk gun. You won’t mind it getting bumped around a bit at that price.
Once the grabbers have had their way with semi-auto firearms, bolt actions rifles & pump guns (including shotguns) will be next. We may be fortunate to be allowed break action shotguns and bolt/lever action rifles if a genuine need is proven. Just like in the UK…….
I would advise all to go with a Mossberg 500/590. Made in America, VERY good track record, tough as nails, and although very slightly more expensive, the U. S. Armed Forces didn’t choose them for nothing. Wouldn’t trade my for gold bullion.
Listen to the Brit, he knows whereof he speaks.
If they ram an EBR ban and confiscation down our throats the next mass shooting will be with an “evil” pump action shotgun with buckshot, the deadliest close range personal firearm ever conceived. Or there’ll be another DC style sniper scare and those “evil” sniper grade bolt actions will be the target.
Bottom line is the goal is total disarmament similar to what’s in the UK now. Where, by the way, the incidence of violent crime is five times what it is here in the United States. See, it’s just so much more convenient for the bad guys when the population are all helpless victims waiting to be harvested.
Of course, total disarmament of the subjects is the final objective.
One of the proposals that occasionally surfaces along this road is to ban any firearm 50 caliber or larger.
Unfortuntately this includes most shotguns.
I have one these. When I first got it, it had a ton of machine oil goop that needed to be cleaned out. Manual says not to dissemble or you’ll void the warranty but you may find you need to, to clean the goop out. However, I didn’t break it down either. Cleaned it out best I could with some patches, left the barrel off and turned it upside down so it would drain. As far as breaking in, yes about 70-100 shells ran through should do it. Cleaned it out again after that initial break in and noticed the pump was rubbing a little bit on the tube and yes at first the pump needed to be racked with some force but not an issue now. I love it for the price I paid $200. It’s light weight, easy to shoot and so far has ran flawlessly even with a variety of loads from everything to bird, rubber buckshot, 1oz slugs and even some low recoil slugs. The ONLY downside is that I would have never purchased the gun had I known it was made in P.R.C. I just assumed since it had the Savage name that it was an American firearm but even with that it seems to be of reasonable quality and craftsmanship.
First, clean the shotgun, do not disassemble.Second fire the weapon 20 rounds or more. Third clean the weapon. Now enjoy a perfectly wonderful pump shotgun.
Chris Dumb, you’re an idiot. No president can do anything respecting gun laws, except not enforce them. If you’re worried about your fucking gun being taken away, then waste more of your money by giving it to the NRA, who have done such a great job of perverting the issue of gun rights in this country. I’m sure they’ll continue to make sure that idiots like you hold sway over rational discourse. And they’ll continue to fleece you of your money scaring you about nothing.
Do you work for Obama?
What’s your point, really? Executive orders can ban about anything they like. Look at Obama’s record. Why hate on the NRA ? they stand for YOUR rights, too. Sounds like you hate guns to me. Don’t know why you are on this gun page. Strange. Ask any Brit: Armed populace are citizens. Disarmed ones are subjects. Which do you prefer?
What a lemming lefty.
Mine had the mag tube pop out of the receiver. Even though it was WAY out of warranty, Savage took it back, and in 3 weeks I had a new replacement. No questions asked. That is great back up and customer service. They made some changes to the original run, which I had. Seems pretty good now.
I’ve been considering buying one of these. Savage’s website says their rifles are made in Mass and Ontario. No info on shotguns. So……. Are they Turkish or communist Chinese nowadays? Prices are exceptional, but quality?
They are made in China. First generation of 320’s were iffy. Mine was replaced under warranty, and they sent me an updated model. Works good
Thank you, Richard. I’ve been shopping for a good, solid, economical home defense shotgun. I see the Weatherby and Winchester models are made in Turkey and they’re both competitively priced. The only brand I’m certain about is the Remington 870. I carried one when I worked for Brinks and was comfortable with that. I see Remington has a rebate program going this month and the savings sweetens the pot a little more. I dunno. Still undecided. I do appreciate everyone’s input. -Ed-