SAT Cheaters and Pinned Stocks? Really?

Last night’s edition of CBS’s 60 Minutes featured Nassau County DA Kathleen Rice. She was peacocking for the cameras after prosecuting an SAT cheating ring to the fullest extent of the law. Years ago she was also featured for prosecuting a drunk driver who smashed into a limousine that resulted in the toughest drunk driving laws extant. Nothing wrong with that. So what does it have to do with guns? Along with high schoolers cheating on their SATs, she also has a vendetta against our local gun shops.

In New York, an AR-15 with a collapsible or telescoping stock is an assault weapon. Never mind…it doesn’t have to make sense. Anyway, our local shop owners were ‘pinning’ the stocks to make them compliant. But Kathleen decided that wasn’t good enough. So she went after the dealers earlier this year to shut them down. If you can’t ban the guns, ban the shops that sell them.

Luckily, the shops have been able to fend off her attacks for the time being. After incurring exorbitant legal fees, of course. The issue: our county is in the biggest debt crisis it has ever faced. Are we going to waste precious resources on overprivileged test cheats and gun store owners trying to comply with the laws? How about going after those drunk drivers again with all that fervor? Doesn’t Kathleen have something better to do?


  1. avatar Aaron says:

    I still don’t understand the whole idea of prosecuting kids for SAT cheating. If cheating is detected, make them pay for the exams again, and have them retake ’em.

  2. avatar Aharon says:

    No, she has nothing better to do. Kathy is an opportunist and an ignorant opinionated azz. She really needs some sun, a better shade of lipstick, and to pluck her eyebrows.

    1. avatar Dirk Diggler says:

      teeth whitening

  3. avatar JOE MATAFOME says:

    It wasn’t just the cheating, it’s the multiple acts of fraud that they committed while cheating. These kids stole the college spots of people who didn’t cheat. She spent a ton of money and time in court and the ring leader received a minor slap on the wrist, and his clients still got into college using the phoney test grades.

  4. avatar DaveL says:

    Thus proving once again that the people who write such laws have no idea what it is they intend to ban or why.

  5. avatar Tom says:

    In New York, an AR-15 with a collapsible or telescoping stock is an assault weapon.

    So let me get this straight:
    A wood stocked Ruger Mini-14 is a long rifle.
    A collapsible stock AR-15 is an assault weapon.

  6. avatar Frank says:

    I am so glad I don’t live there. I bet sooner or later she’d try to have anything above .223 classified as an artillery piece.

  7. avatar Totenglocke says:

    How about we spend that money on prosecuting politicians for treason and violating their oath to uphold the Constitution?

    1. avatar DaveL says:

      Because writing unconstitutional laws in itself doesn’t constitute treason, per the constitution.

      1. avatar Totenglocke says:

        Really? Got a specific line from the Constitution that says that?

        1. avatar DaveL says:

          Article 3, Section 3:

          Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.

        2. avatar Silver says:

          Those who oppose the Constitution ARE enemies, thus it is treason.

          Hey, if gun-grabbers can word the 2A any way they see fit, then I can do so to other lines.

        3. avatar DaveL says:

          No. That would have made a significant portion of the Constitutional Convention traitors. “Enemies” in this context is a legal term of art meaning a power with which the United States is in a state of war- war in the formal declared sense and not the rhetorical.

          The wording is borrowed from English Law. Sir William Blackstone, in his Commentaries on the Laws of England elucidates:

          4. “If a man be adherent to the king’s enemies in his realm, giving to them aid and comfort in the realm, or elsewhere,” he is also declared guilty of high treason. This must likewise be proved by some overt act, as by giving them intelligence, by sending them provisions, by selling them arms, by treacherously surrendering a fortress, or the like.

  8. avatar Ralph says:

    Doesn’t Kathleen have something better to do?

    Yes. Getting her face on TV. It’s very important.

  9. avatar Marky says:

    In NJ, pick two:
    Flash Hider
    Detachable Magazine
    Pistol Grip
    Adjustable Stock
    Bayonet Lug
    More than two makes you a felon! Probably due to the recent rash of Flash-hidden ar-15 bayonettings.

    1. avatar Joe Grine says:

      Actually, it’s because some politicians thought that such features make a gun look “scary.”

    2. avatar O.N. says:

      Same for NY unless you have a pre-ban version. One day soon I’ll be moving to a state with more gun privileges.

      1. avatar Geoff says:

        We also get the fun in NY of no more the 10 rounds in a mag unless it is pre-ban.

  10. avatar Marky says:

    In NJ, pick two:
    Flash Hider, Detachable Magazine, Pistol Grip, Adjustable Stock, Bayonet Lug
    More than two makes you a felon! Probably due to the recent rash of Flash-hidden ar-15 bayonettings.

    1. avatar Bob H says:

      Duplicative redundancy?

  11. avatar BLAMMO says:

    Doesn’t Kathleen have something better to do?

    Not until the opportunity arises for her to run for NYS Attorney General (a position currently occupied by an even bigger gun-grabber, Eric Schneiderman).

  12. avatar Silver says:

    We should be careful when we ask politicians to do something “better.” Do we honestly want politicians setting their sights higher? At least now, she isn’t focusing on anything extremely damaging, for the most part.

  13. avatar Lemming says:

    The rest of the story makes things even worse. Let me give you some dots, and you may feel free to connect them. . .

    1) All the raided shops except for one called T&T have been offered an ACOD.
    2) At the time of the raid T&T’s case against Nassau County was about to go to trial. This case involved an earlier rather dirty raid against T&T.
    3) T&T has rejected Nassau County’s settlement offer.

    Some further reading:

    Note that I I’ve never particularly liked T&T, but this whole ado has actually generated some sympathy for Marty in me.

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