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I was about to start a betting pool as to whose gun related issue would clear first: my FFL troubles or RF’s Caracal recall. Too late: I “won.” After 339 days, my new FFL03 finally came in. And just in time, too. With ammunition prices the way they are, it’s cheaper to buy “oddball” calibers than the normal calibers. 7.62 Nagant is available by the pallet; 9mm is scarce as all hell. It’s making me want to buy another Nagant revolver; it’s actually cheaper to buy the gun AND 500 rounds of ammo than just 500 rounds of 9mm. Moral of the story: there’s no reason not to get your FFL03.

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  1. There are still plenty of reasons not to have anything that begins with FFL of any number. Plenty of stories abound of people being abused, simply because the ATF screwed up or changed their minds.

  2. Now that I’m within a month or two of having a suppressor in my hands, I think I need to add a Nagant revolver to the collection also. Get it threaded for the suppressor :-)… but… my timing sucks and they seem to be out of stock at all of the places that used to have them for around a hundred bucks…

    Anyone have good leads on one?

    • Try S.O.G. Southern Ohio Guns. $120. The Nagant is a C&R or you can get a transfer to an FFL.

  3. I’ve had a C&R license for a few years, being an old-gun guy, and it’s really delightful to be able to have firearms sent straight to your house. Also nice to keep several copies of the license with you when you travel. Never know when you’ll find something cool in a pawn shop far from home and it’s nice to be able to take it with you.

  4. The 50 year rule will bring a slew of exciting guns to the 03 FFL in the coming decade. Lots of cool guns from the 1960’s

  5. It’s almost silly for gun guys and gals not to have a C&R license. There are great guns out there begging to be purchased and shipped right to your door. Cutting out the FFL saves time and money. And the “cruffler” community is friendly, knowledgeable and helpful. Go for it!

  6. I love my nagant revolver. I think 5 spare mosins, and 5 spare nagants and you can arm anyone with simple and reliable arms that are plenty lethal. Kinda ties into the buying guns for your neighbor post you made the other day. that, and several spam cans of ammo and you are prepared for whatever comes your way. If you can teach a Russian conscript to use them effectively, you can teach anyone to use em.


  7. I recently read that it’s basically pointless to get an 03/c&r in California. Opinions?

  8. The caliber part of this makes a lot of sense. For example, you always read: “get a .30-30 lever action, the ammo is always readily available”, and so on. Well that is NOT TRUE. The more common the caliber, the quicker it disappears from the shelves in any panic situation like the present one.

    I’ve been keeping track of ammo for the last two months and guess what? .38 Super +P is still available in 50 rounds for $19.99, and in 1000 round cartons for less. And, .30-30 is nowhere to be found while .45-70 is, and so forth. Conventional wisdom is WRONG, especially for calibers that are used by LE, DHS and the military.

    • And that’s exactly why my new AR is a corrosion-proofed eater of 5.45×39 Russian milsurp ammo. At 20c-per-shot I won’t be feeling the pain that the 5.56 guys are at 80c-per-shot or more.

  9. I have the paperwork but haven’t sent it in yet. I have been eyeing the nagant revolver. I thought it would go well with my mosin nagant rifles.

  10. I had a C&R a while back, must be why I have a Nagent. Lol. Yes there is the 50 year thing but there is also an exceptions list that is a mile long and has everything I really want listed. Frustrating.

  11. I love my Nagant revolver. I’ve heard that that PPU is on par with weak loaded .32 auto but I don’t know for sure. has a lot of the Russian army loads, 14 to a pack @ $4.75 its steel jacketed and Berdan primed though. I need to get another couple of boxes.

    Another side note is that the Nagant m1895 is one of the very few revolvers that can be silenced. There is also a lot of information online about different ways to reload similarly to the original 7.62x38R.

  12. Congratulations, Nick!

    I guess it goes to prove just how spotlessly clean they found you. In fact, you’re so hygienic you could go into a high-precision optical system weather satellite cleanroom, just as you are! 😉

  13. So have any of you Nagant owners tried them with .32 S&W Long? Those are sometimes easier to find than the 7.62 Nagant, and the pressure levels look about the same. No cylinder/barrel gap seal, but that’s just a bonus feature of the original.

    • I’ve used .32 S&W long in mine and while it shoots no problem its all over the paper. Also in my gun one of the chambers is a bit bigger than the others and the entire round will slip up inside the cylinder, the other six chambers don’t have this problem. I’ve seen online replacement cylinders for .32 ACP and H&R Mag but haven’t used them myself. From what I can gather some guns will use off caliber ammo better than others.

      While the original caliber is best it is not strictly necessary.

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