As we reported on Thursday, Big Green’s now shipping the R51 Part Deux to retailers around the country. That’s after first sending out the re-worked version to buyers who’d bought the original gun and returned them after the recall was issued two years ago. Here’s their official press release:
Huntsville, AL – Remington Arms Company, LLC, (“Remington”) is proud to announce today that the R51 has returned to the market. The new enhanced Model R51 is a concealed carry pistol based on the Pedersen design, heritage and memorable features of the original Remington Model 51.
Re-engineered from the ground up and extensively tested to deliver utmost reliability, the perfected R51 gets you on target faster and more intuitively than any other subcompact on the market. Add to that its dramatically reduced felt recoil and muzzle flip, and it’s exactly what you need to perform at your best when things are at their worst.
The R51 sub compact pistol features a lightweight aluminum frame with rounded edges for comfortable conceal carry, grip safety, low bore axis for reduced recoil/muzzle flip, concealed carry trigger (light/crisp/single action), light slide racking-force for ease of manipulation, ambidextrous magazine release, locking drift adjustable sights and optimized grip angle – making it extremely easy to point and shoot.
New enhancements on the Model R51 include superior slide performance with updated internals, precision-engineered extractor, locking snag-free sights, finely-tuned recoil spring, hard chromed barrel bushing, top-end single action trigger and two semi-flush 7 + 1 round magazine.
The Remington Model R51 is available chambered in 9mm Luger +P with a suggested retail price of $448.00. In addition, the Model R51CT features a Crimson Trace laser sight with a suggested retail price of $648.00.
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About Remington Arms Company, LLC
Remington Arms Company, LLC, (“Remington”) headquartered in Madison, N.C., designs, produces and sells sporting goods products for the hunting and shooting sports markets, as well as solutions to the military, government and law enforcement markets. Founded in 1816 in upstate New York, the Company is the nation’s oldest continuously operating manufacturer with its original Ilion, New York plant still in operation today. Remington is a privately-held manufacturer of firearms and ammunition products and one of the largest domestic producers of shotguns and rifles. The Remington Family of Companies has 12 locations across 9 states employing over 3,500 people and distributes its products throughout the U.S. and in over 55 foreign countries.
More information about the Company can be found at www.remington.com.
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I won’t be the Beta tester, I already seen how bad the Alpha run was.
Roger that. I really like the look of it, but I’m going to wait until the verdicts are in before buying one. Even then it’s gonna hafta be something special to replace the ol’ reliable 9mm I already own.
What’s the reason to buy one?
There are so many other good options out there that work, are reasonably priced, have holsters and accessories, etc. They look a little goofy to me anyway so i just don’t understand why anyone would still care.
The R51 is the perfect zombie gun. Not for killing the undead, but for not dying itself.
One would think that by now the auto pistol would be dialed in and be more a game of features and price, not one of ultimate reliability.
Glock. When 100% reliable is good enough.
The springfields are the only other pistols on the market with only a grip safety correct? And they are blocky
Thought many dislike any safety the passive grip safety seems to fill a niche
If it works
If it was “re-engineered from the ground up” – it would look exactly like the last model – right??
Re-engineered, not redesigned. Two very different things.
I hope they got this right, because I really like the design.
Its to bad Kimber didnt recall Solo’s. Huge money for somthing you cant count on
Ground up, from what I have seen of the R1, ground up is how they should handle the entire product line. Maybe someone who makes better guns could use the ground up bits for something useful. Remington is what happens to a gun company that is taken over and run by a corporation that is clueless about guns and gun owners.
They took over a car company. How did that work out? Actually, Mercedes gutted Chrysler but Cerbus gets the blame.
Yes Mercedes gutted the company, but the facts of the companys financial health was misrepresented to them. They invested a lot of innovation and tech to help the company but in the long run realized that the legacy costs due to bad labor contracts and continue inflation in medical and underpaid pensions that it was not feasible. That’s why they sued to get out.
MB got a lot technoligy out the company. It the late 1990s they were falling behind BMW, Audi and the Japanese. I think they took a risk and but off more than they could chew. The MB era is the Chrysler design collapsed and have us such gems as the Caliber and the Avenger/200.
Mercedes builds crap cars & destroyed Chrysler with their crap engineering & designs–Fiat, of all companies, has reborn Chrysler & returned them to a great product–Germans love to over engineer things & make them totally unreliable–I would never own a German brand gun either
yes, clearly the problem with Chrysler was… Mercedes and their poor-quality cars.
enjoy missing out on excellent German guns, though!
own or work on Mercedes for an eye opening experience–unmitigated garbage
When MB took over Chrysler, MB was close to insolvent and Chrysler had generated $6 billion in free cash. MB used the cash to shore up it’s own line while Chrysler went downhill, then MB divested of the (now broke) company.
Exactly correct–MB should be out of business–I have personally driven & worked lots of MB’s–used to be a road test driver–pure garbage
MB is a piece of junk?!? That’s good, I had an 1994 e420 that was still going strong with 340000 miles. Replaced the seal on the sunroof, power window motor and maintenance. My 2009 ram 1500 in 142000 miles went through 3 sets of upper ball joints, one covered under warranty because it was less than 7,000 miles,3 electric door lock mechanism, rear leaf springs, two fuel pumps, 2 transmissions, first 1 failed 38,000 and the rear end dif lube looked like Mercury because the Inner axle bearings were trash when I sold it. I never towed anything and followed all maintenance recommendations. I’m not even going to talk about my 3/4 v10 and all the failures in that.
Both those trucks made me wish for the family 68 Plymouth fury III that was a POS to the 9th power. You never knew if it was going to stop or throw you into the window. It burned a quart and a half every 1500 miles from the day it was new. Quarter panels rusted though in 4 years and we didn’t live in the rust belt. I can’t remember seeing anything but black consumer reports dots for dodge/Plymouth/Chrysler.
Every one thinks of the hemi today and tried to put on airs that dodge is something great but I’ve owned a lot of them and they are historically bad cars from a company that was saved by the k-car and MB.
What is your issue with the R1? Mine has well over 2000 rounds through it with not even a hiccup. I wish every gun I have owned worked as well.
“…the perfected R51 gets you on target faster and more intuitively than any other subcompact on the market.”
“And now it works*”!
*Sometimes
*needs citation
All they had to do was make the Model 51, chambered in 9×19. That’s all they had to do.
If they had put out a new run of Model 53’s, I would have purchased one.
But noooooooo…. they had to make it cheap.
The old 51 was a thing of beauty. I’m still kicking my ass for passing up a $300 specimen I saw at a gun show.
Hmmmm….very dangerous! You go first!
Don’t worry Indy, they had some top men redesign it. Top men.
Waiting to see how they messed this batch up …
~ 23 oz. I can find better things to bludgeon people with.
Well as I mentioned the other day Jeff Quinn at Gunblast has video’s up extolling the virtues of this POS. I hate the looks,the size( for a competitor to single stack 9’s it’s HUGE) and I have no use for Remington. Virtually every sub-compact 9 made is smaller. I think I’m getting one of those Taurus 709’s for 200bucks…
My Taurus 709 was a complete hunk of sh*t, YMMV.
I do not trust ANYTHING Taurus makes–have personally seen all of their stuff malfunction, even the Judge–lucky I did loose a hand
I’ve had 4 Taurus’ run perfectly. Jus’ sayin’ Yeah a LOOSE hand is scary 🙂
They sort of creep around like in Dark Shadows.
I have a buddy who swears the safest game of Russian Roulette you can play is a Taurus revolver with 6 rounds.
You and your “buddy” should try out that game-put your mouth where your money is 🙂
They still make good ammo for other gunmaker’s guns.
Wake me up when they chamber it in an interesting caliber … .50 Beowulf or something.
I’ll just let it fail spectacularly, and then pick up a cheap one on fire sale.
When they leave NY and some billion are sold and work. I might even take a look at it.
Might also be in the ground before that will happen.
It seems to be in the same category as the Walther CCP and PPS. I’m more than curious.
I’ll bet 5 it’s still not reliable enough for edc.
I’m done with big green
I bought an M&P Shield. My single stack 9mm craving is complete.
I tried the original at a show 2 1/2 years ago & it felt really good in the hand–however, it is bigger, heavier than my Ruger LC9S which also feels perfect in the hand, plus I can put 9 round mags in it–I think the R51 will turn out to be a good gun, but not enough to trade any of my numerous Rugers, which I know to always work 100% of the time
If that R was just a bit bigger, I’d be sold.
It’s fugly. Full stop. I wouldn’t buy it if it was the most reliable handgun on the planet (post re-engineering).
[Algernop Krieger] Nope nope nope [/Algernop Krieger]
Look up Starcher if you haven’t already. Star Trek the cartoon, with Archer characters voices. It is hilarious.
16V, that was awesome! Gonna have to wash the beer off this keyboard now. LOL!
Can’t find it!
LOL.
Do you want ants?
Did someone call Kenny Loggins? ‘Cuz we’re in the DANGER ZONE!! 😀
Cerberus is a smart company. It owns Remington, and it owns Steward Medical. Steward Medical operates hospital and health services all across the country. So when your Cerberus-owned Remington fails and you end up in a hospital, it might be a Cerberus-owned Steward Medical hospital.
They can’t lose!
We, on the other hand, are forked.
With so many excellent pistols on the market and the complete F*** Up of this thing the first time around why on earth would anyone even bother……..
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
Just sayin’
i think it looks kinda cool, like star-warsy, id consider buying one (after the Foghorn Leghorn Crew gives it a review that is)
Yep. Unlike most of the “new” designs on the market (Glock clones or Polymer DAO guns based up older designs), they went for a truly innovative design and failed.
If Version2.0 really fixed the problems, I would try it but for the fact I want an even smaller pistol to supplement my G26. Their .380 has my attention even if I ultimately pick up a Ruger LCP.
did consider the RM 380, but the trigger pull is absolutely awful–long & hard,seems like it is never going to break–totally worse,by a large margin , than the triggers people complained about on the original LC9 & LCP–bought the new Custom version of the LCP & I could not be happier–this pistol is near perfection for a a palm size gun–great trigger, great sights, easy on recoil,feeds anything it fed, even several mixed types in the same mag–extremely accurate too while being absolutely inconspicuous to carry–modern version of the Derringer refined & perfected
Agreed – wait for the reviews and then proceed with caution.
Regardless if Remington actually has fixed the R51, given the many options available on the market, why would one purchase this gun over all the alternatives? What is the outstanding feature?
Right. I’ll stick with my P938.
What is the outstanding feature? It promotes Gun Safety. Let your kids play with it. The kids will be totally safe.
Oooh, look! Remington had made *another* product I won’t buy.
Why do they even bother anymore? If it’s in a green and yellow box, I pass it over, NQA.
whelp, if Remingtons “new” R-51 does not work as advertised, it proves that they cannot design functional products.
If it does work, it proves that they can design functional products, but choose not to until they got called on their BS.
Either way its losing situation.
Furthermore, what ever managers in charge decided to fix this expensive, high profile screw up just to prove they can design functional (assuming it works) products needs to be axed. It been hugely cheaper IMO in dollars and whats left of your corporate reputation to retire with egg on your face and say “crap, we screwed up”. BECAUSE if they did fix it, the statement is thus: “yeah we deliberately screwed you last time, but this time we choose not to.” I will never, ever conduct business with a company that has that kind of moral decay embedded in upper management.
The original M51 was the smallest, flattest (at the time) pocket pistol I ever had. Sorry I sold it. The new 51 is not even in the same class. I’ll pass on it.
450 dollars for that? 650 with a laser pointer on it?
You’ve got to be kidding.
Perfect timing. The year after the Glock 43 just ate what’s left of the 9mm single-stack market.
One series of looks/reviews of the “new” R51 are here.
IMO that guy has a bit of an enormousness chip on his shoulder. His “reliability test” consisted of a few dozen rounds of WOLF ammo and some reloads of unknown mfg… but then downplayed it when it ran flawlessly with UMC ammo.
“Reengineered from the ground up” means that Remington took two years to determine the most efficient means to cheaply and minimally tweak and deburr their heavily flawed, crude, and unreliable R51 design. After all that ground up reengineering, Remington now manufactures a R51 that is less flawed, crude, and unreliable.
*citation needed*
And this is better than a 325.00 Ruger LC9S how?