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Another Socialist Republic of California company showing their true colors, Tell me how come the NRA or NAGR weren’t consulted? Not that I or anyone that I know would ever sell a firearm illegally, however enacting such rules on Facebook and Instagram will not stop people from exchanging phone numbers and doing what they will, and it is not the responsibility of Facebook to police conversations. Prosecute the offenders dont persecute everyone…
Tears and rhetoric… All we ever hear when the Left doesn’t get their way. What do I know? It’s Bush’s fault and I’m a racist.
Dale didn’t smell what the Rock was cooking!
Great work, Dan, Dirk, and Paul- the only way to change a large organization is from the inside. NRA appears to be listening- and at least acting smart on PR- Colon Noir, the Women of the NRA series, for example.
What happens on the ground in various chapters will reflect the flavor of that community- and waiting for someone else to do it, doesnt work…stick with it- you will be leaders of the next generation at NRA very soon, as its obvious that aging boomers like Wayne La Pierre are having limited impact, and fresh faces are needed. Thats not an indictment of all the good the many long-committed leaders at NRA have done- just the reality that they need to pass the torch, and mentor the new up-and-comers- and the demographics at that dinner prove my point.
So, kudos again Gents, for going there and writing for TTAG, for taking your time, cuz time is money, to do good for all of us.
I’m going to follow your example and see what I can do, baby steps, in my own community, to do my small part.
And a tiny shout-out to the rest here in TTAG- with respect and understanding to anyone else too busy, work, family- remember- giving up something as simple as eating out once a month adds up to a pretty subtantial donation- a basic annual membership at NRA, SAF, and your local state group, where the power of the group does WAY more than one voice, in government, especially in blue states.
Money talks, and you know what walks.
1 major difference. Drone kill terrorists and associates. Assault weapons kill children and innocent people. Are you trying to suggest that the life of a terrorist is EQUAL to an American child? F***ing idiots.
“Assault weapons” don’t have some magical technology that only force them to kill ‘children and innocent people.’ And these numbers include police officers using their issued firearms to shoot criminals as well as citizens defending themselves, putting the drone numbers on par with this figure. Since, in reality, the number of confirmed civilian casualties from drone strikes far outweighs the number of AW deaths in the US as well.
I really wish people would actually read the articles before defaulting to their own biases…
No they won’t sell to ME in California so no… See that was fair and easy now wasn’t it..
Can’t really argue with that.
I don’t think they deserve forgiveness. Donating money to the 2nd amendment foundation is only a tactical more to improve their standing with pro 2a guys like the same guys they let down before.
I will never again buy from CTD or Dicks Sporting Good and I have gone as far as demand other sites that are gun related like thefirearmblog.com to remove their cheaper than dirt adds which made me so mad I told them I would not return to their sight if the adds remain.
The money donations are a step in the right direction, a step that is now necessary to regain business once more not really cause they care that much. They are still price gouging so no…
yep. 223 899.00 for 1000 I looked right befor I declined there emails from now on. today I went to cabelas 223 pmc 8.99 a box. cabelas stayed true thru it all . let dirt cheap eat shit and die with there dirty prices
and what about sportsmans guid they did it too
Uhhh, in a word…………….NO
Even if I was willing to forgive their cowardice and willingness to perpetuate enemy propaganda during the post-Newtown feeding frenzy, there is the issue of how they handled the aftermath: by lying about it. To my knowledge, they still haven’t come clean and issued anything even vaguely resembling an honest mea culpa. By definition, that means they can’t issue an honest apology, because you can’t sincerely apologize for something that you’re too much of a snake to even admit to having done in the first place.
Furthermore, California having been among my former states of residence, I find their treatment of our brethren behind enemy lines to be fully in keeping with their eagerness to sell the rest of us up the river at any opportunity. Californian gun owners need all the help they can get. For those who are naively willing to write of CA, never forget that a major facet of the gun culture fight is making it too expensive, time-consuming, and hazardous to bring new shooters into the hobby. …and the further we let California slide, the more dangerous precedents they set. I suppose those in NY, CO, WA, CT, and MD who once turned their noses up at California gun owners have learned this lesson the hard way.
If there’s anything we need, it’s solidarity, and a critical though counter-intuitive component of that is a steady resolve to ostracize those who demonstrate an eagerness to stab us in the back (let alone continue to lie to our faces about it for years afterward). F*** CTD in the neck with a sharp stick, I say.
Happy trails,
#OREGON HOBO#
Not so quickly, but maybe one day. I always had a problem with the way they calculated shipping, so I never bought much from them anyway.
If they stop trying to fund giant profits with their obviously unnecessary multiple shipping charges per order, then maybe. But until then, no.
So I am not the only one that thinks their shipping charges are absolutely ridiculous. What difference does a cheap price make if the shipping makes it the same as everywhere else? And what’s with the “this is shipped from warehouse A” and “this is shipped form warehouse B”. Like I give a sh*t where it’s shipped from.
Never purchased from them. Their price gouging sure turned me off…maybe the 100k is part of their ill-gotten gains?
+1
The SAF donation was because they know they screwed up, not out of some loyalty to the 2a. Plus, they probably just needed an additional tax writeoff from the profits off those $100 magazines.
This.
No, they angered me after the election in 2008 and any good will they earned back they lost it forever after how they handled themselves after Newtown.
Look at Brownells and Midway and then CTD. Brownells and Midway will continue to get my business and CTD will just get the middle finger.
Tried, but I’m just not feelin’ it.
Never again peace out bro.
I get increasing prices due to demand, though I think at the cost of your customer goodwill is a bad idea.
However, it takes a special kind of douche to charge $100 a PMAG, list it as “Our low price” AND call yourself “Cheaper Than Dirt”
Yeah, I have plenty of other places to shop. Their prices were never that good and the couple of times I considered ordering from them the shipping was outrageous considering they are a couple of towns over.
They are dead to me. Plenty of other places to shop that are not run by total douche bags.
I haven’t visited there website since I saw 30 round magazines for $99. Don’t plan to ever visit it again…they are dead to me.
No, the donation is just an attempt to get sales back. No apology, no attempt to quit price gouging. Cheaper than Dirt as a business can die.
I guarantee we will see NO support from H&K. FN seems like they would be more publicly sympathetic if they didn’t have that M16 contract to lose.
Springfield Armory, DS Arms, Rock River Arms, and Lewis Machine and Tool we could probably swing around to join the bandwagon.
Barrett’s already demonstrated their convictions by cutting off service to California in the wake of their .50 cal ban. I’d still like to see them issue the same statement to New York though, just for publicity’s sake if nothing else. No doubt NYPD SWAT or FBI’s local branch are gonna get a rude awakening when they inevitably send in their .50s for service.
Knight’s Armament Company, however . . . I haven’t seen ANYTHING remotely pro-2A out of them in all the years I’ve been following the industry. I get a bad vibe that if FN decides to put 2A above their DoD contract, that KAC will quietly step in as a replacement.
Just FYI they have also posted this statement on their FB page:
“Recently, companies such as LaRue Tactical and Olympic Arms have announced that they will no longer sell prohibited items to government agencies and personnel in states that deny the right to own those items to civilians. It has been and will continue to be Cheaper Than Dirt’s policy to not to sell prohibited items to government agencies and/or agents in states, counties, cities, and municipalities that have enacted restrictive gun control laws against their citizens. We support and encourage other companies that share in this policy.”
I’m not saying it’s time to forgive and forget, but I am happy to see this.
TLTL – Too Little, Too Late.
Just belay the fact that the companies they mentioned have refused to do business ALTOGETHER with Local, State, and Federal Agencies…
Not simply pick and choose what they do and do not want to sell to them.
They never appealed to me and while I commend them for their donation, Im still not interested. Was this out of sincerity or to save face? Thats my question.
Slightly related, I made my first online gun purchase ever. Found a M91/30 at Buds and it just happened to be pay day so I took a chance. I cant wait to pick it up.
I have a 91/30 and an M44. Great guns and fun to shoot!
Couldnt find any M44’s but up until yesterday they had Type 53’s which is a Chinies M44 clone. Unfortunatley they were sold out today.
Reputation: how you act when others are looking
Character: how you act when no on is looking.
They acted like a$$holes when EVERYONE was looking during the height of the frenzy. If they act like that when the light is one them I can only imagine what their “character”, as described above is. Screw them. Let them sleep in the bed they made.
1000
The pricing thing doesn’t bother me so much, because that’s how a free market works. (For more info, please see the really obnoxious “gouging vs free market” argument that’s sure to rear its head here eventually.)
I intensely dislike the politically correct “we don’t sell guns yes we do our system was broken we’ll sell guns again but not scary black ones” roller coaster they went through.
I will try to avoid giving them money in the future, but to be honest, that won’t be hard, as I’ve only spent money with them once in the past, and my experience has been that it’s not at all hard to beat their prices once shipping and bullshit handling charges are factored in with just a little bit of shopping around.
My feelings exactly. I ‘like’ the boycott ctd Facebook page, not because of the prices but because of their flip-flopping stance on gun sales.
Anyway, I’ve had pretty good luck with midwayusa and the lgs for my handgun ammo needs in the last few months.
Now all that needs to happen is for the ammo manufacturers to do the same. Even if they manage to purchase the weapons that they want, they won’t have the ammo to fire them.
CTD isn’t selling anything I can’t get elsewhere for less money.
The price “gouging” in a high-demand, low supply market where re-supply is delayed and the market’s future uncertain doesn’t bother me.
Their flip-flopping on gun sales does.
Mostly though, I hate their shipping policies, so I don’t bother with them.
No.abandoned their customer base when they were most needed. I hope they go out of business.
With the profit margins and sales they’ve had lately, $100k is probably nothing to them. That said, I love me some SAF and I’m glad to see them get the check. I hope their coffers and membership rolls are skyrocketing. Lots of people and retailers are swimming in panic profits right now. It would be great if they would follow CTD’s lead on this.
Their prices were never cheaper than dirt. Buds almost always beat them on Firearms prices (plus Buds had shipping included in the price and CTD does not). The rest of the inventory was decently priced for the most part prior to the ban hysteria. However, their outrageous shipping charges always negated any savings. I could often times find the same or similar item on Amazon for a little bit more on the listed price, but ended up being cheaper due to shipping (plus my prime membership gets me my stuff in two days). Suffice it to say, I had only spent about $200 with them in the past and rarely visited their site because I knew the shipping costs would always counter the whole cheaper than dirt shtick. After their shameless show of cowardice and disgusting price gauging ($129 for a Colt AR magazine, really!?!), I have no intention of ever sending them my business ever again. MidwayUSA, Cabelas, and Brownells’ selection is just as good if not better at times and I have a few other places that meet my needs at a lower expense. Besides, the only reason they are backtracking now is because despite the buying frenzy out there, I get the impression that either their bottom line has taken a hit or they are afraid it will when all the dust settles. If I ran SAF, I would have very politely told them that we don’t accept donations from cowardly, unprincipled traitors and that they could shove their money where the sun don’t shine.
No we should not forgive them. We should boycott them…unless they are the only one’s who have something I really need to get before it’s outlawed…
What can I say…I’m a practical ideologue.
CTD is banned like my ex girlfriends. Radio silence, no contact, and best wishes to hit receivership as soon as possible.
Why? Because if the Democrats did pass an AWB, that $100,000 would be going to the Brady Campaign instead of the SAF. They’re playing both ends against the middle, and such are not even worth discussing.Theyre like crooked IL politicians who donate to children’s shelters to make up for their day to day extortion and kickback rackets.
They weren’t there for us & now we should be there for them? The words kiss my ass come to mind, Randy
Dan,
If you are watching see the post on facebook at:
http://www.facebook.com/tcGunsAndCarry
It is a letter from John Delmonico, President – Police Officers Federation of Minneapolis (it was submitted to the Star Tribune as an opinion piece, but they refused to publish it).
Also see:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=393810110715371&set=a.195040720592312.42035.172653092831075&type=1
more complete addresses that Minnesotans are using to write gun manufacturers.
Haven’t purchased from them in a while. Too much “smoke and mirrors” with low prices but high shipping costs. This time they cooked their own goose…
Price gouging and ridiculous shipping prices…CTD is a last resort for me…a very last resort…if at all.
I’d do a lot for $100 million. I’ll forgive for free. But I still won’t ever buy anything from Cheaper Than Dirt!
I want to continue to hate them but that donation will surely come in handy…
Still dead to me but at least they’re finally doing something right…
I used them a lot, but never again.
I don’t mind the soul searching, that’s fine, the price gouging I don’t and I won’t shop there again. 100 bucks for an AR mag? 60 bucks for a Ruger BX25 for 10/22? f that.
Wait, so you’re OK with them yanking gun sales for no reason other than political correctness, but you draw the line on limited quantity items to preserve supply? Weird.
Dead to me. Especially after 133$ Colt AR Mags, 1000% markups much?
Never used them since I have always been able to get stuff cheaper elsewhere – or just didn’t have the dough no matter how cheap it was.
That said – if it weren’t for second chances none of us would be much. I’m willing if they’re able to get their shipping rates down and quit this middle-of-the-road stuff.
As the old boy said, “The only things in the middle of the road are yellow lines, dead skunks and dead armadillos.”
While off topic to this thread, I just heard back from a Dem., unfortunately mine, that you might be familiar with. I knew it wouldn’t do any good but contacted her anyway, and here’s her response.
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Dianne Feinstein
United States Senator for California
Dear Bryan:
Thank you for contacting me to share your opposition to assault weapons legislation. I respect your opinion on this important issue and welcome the opportunity to provide my point of view.
Mass shootings are a serious problem in our country, and I have watched this problem get worse and worse over the 40 years I have been in public life. From the 1966 shooting rampage at the University of Texas that killed 14 people and wounded 32 others, to the Newtown massacre that killed 20 children and 6 school teachers and faculty, I have seen more and more of these killings. I have had families tell me that they no longer feel safe in a mall, in a movie theater, in their business, and in other public places, because these deadly weapons are so readily available. These assault weapons too often fall into the hands of grievance killers, juveniles, gangs, and the deranged.
I recognize that the Second Amendment provides an individual right to bear arms, but I do not believe that right is unlimited or that it precludes taking action to prevent mass shootings. Indeed, in the same Supreme Court decision that recognized the individual right to bear arms, District of Columbia v. Heller, the Court also held that this right, like other constitutional rights, is not unlimited. That is why assault weapons bans have consistently been upheld in the courts, both before and after the Heller decision. I believe regulation of these weapons is appropriate.
Once again, thank you for your letter. Although we may disagree, I appreciate hearing from you and will be mindful of your thoughts as the debate on this issue continues. If you have any additional comments or questions, please do not hesitate to contact my Washington, D.C. office at (202) 224-3841.
Sincerely yours,
Dianne Feinstein
United States Senator
Further information about my position on issues of concern to California and the nation are available at my website, Feinstein.senate.gov. You can also receive electronic e-mail updates by subscribing to my e-mail list. Click here to sign up. And please visit my YouTube, Facebook and Twitter for more ways to communicate with me.
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So if you have any questions or comments (and I’ll bet you do) you now have her contact info.
Eh. Nobody’s perfect; everybody makes mistakes. Long as they’re done flip-flopping, I don’t see why not.
Nope…
Sig is German. I’d be very suprised if they would ever consider refusing sales to government agencies. I think they’d sell guns to a government agency even if they outright told Sig it would be used to suppress a populace with lethal force. I like my Sig P226; but I am under no illusion that they are “pro-gun” in the American sense of the term.
Glock and S&W also have an awful lot to lose by cutting off government contracts in California, New York, and other restrictive states. If they hadn’t done it to protest 10 rounds magazine restrictions in the past, so I doubt they’d do so for any of these new restrictions.
I’m pretty sure Extreme Firepower Inc, Templar Custom, and York Arms have little to lose and a lot to gain by taking on this policy. Only LaRue and Olympic Arms probably have a few contracts in New York; but they’d sell everything they can produce regardless of having any government contracts. The policy would only allow them to reallocate supply to higher-paying civilian consumers, and possibly gain some customer loyalty.
I’m not saying the sentiments of these companies are disingenous–to the contrary, I think they are truly opposed to new restrictions–but I think they all have little to lose and more to gain by refusing to service some state agencies. Sig, S&W, and Glock have far more to lose, and it would take a significant chunk of their sales to adopt similar sales policies.
I’m in complete agreement with you, Leo.
Sig is owned by a Swiss company called L&O Holdings.
Piss on ’em. Let ’em rot.
I removed CTD from my bookmarks.
Screw CTD Forever and Always
Midway gets my money.
One stands by their convictions no matter the circumstance or they have no convictions to stand on… Any company that sways with the political winds is a company who will never see a dime from me!
No!, at the first sign of trouble or a bad image, they abandoned us (fellow gun owners). They can’t be trusted again; they are the very definition of a fair weather corporation.
Great idea — add Colt to the list. A lot of police departments have or are planning on replacing patrol car shotguns with ARs, and Colt is high on to-buy list for those.
When they change their name to “Cheaper than Sh1t”……and their price reflects it,,,maybe, but I doubt it..
I applaud Olympic Arms, but, this has to be just the beginning. Everyone who believes in the Constitution needs to boycott States like New York. Don’t go there, don’t do business with them, and if you live there and are able to, move. This is not just about guns, it is about whether the Constitution survives and we survive as a free people. Let’s do it folks, we have the power to bring every damned one of these liberal/progressive/Marxists to their knees.
the 100K to SAF is nice, although my personal inclination is to make their own stance, beyond the blog, on politics and fighting the fight with the rest of us.
anyone can donate a buck, not everyone contributes blood sweat and tears to the cause.
but, as a CA resident, I’m more or less unaffected by what they do with sales of firearms, so their decision didn’t affect me. I tend to be OK with the last decision to be pro-2A if that indeed is their final position and not just a capitalistic one.
they are short a few zeros before I will even consider forgiveness . . . . they also need to FIRE their CEO, Chief Marketing Officer and General Counsel or outside law firm who advised them on their policies.
I will continue to check them against everybody else… There is some awesome competition out there. Brownells, Lucky Gunner, Midway… etc
I keep hearing and reading a-lot of people stating that “It” or “that wont” pass or happen or “they wouldn’t”(you know what IT is and who THEY are). Stop thinking that it can’t or wont happen. Reach out to your rep and tell them how you feel. The MSM has its own agenda and none are going to do for US. WE need to do for ourselves individually and UNITED. Write to those manufacturers and businesses that you buy from and ask them to do the same. and start buying what you can find, if you can find anything.
I’d rather pull a splinter out of a porcupine’s rear end with my teeth. I hope thats not too vague.
Raising prices isn’t really objectionable. Once the shortage is really there there are two possibilities :
1) They keep prices the same. Those items are immediately bought and either hoarded by the lucky early-bird, or resold at “black market” rates. Anybody after the initial rush is SOL as there is 0 inventory (Or they pay market clearing rates to the black market)
2) They raise prices. Resellers are cut out. Broke people can’t get guns, but for those who actually have the desire to purchase guns at the market clearing rate, are able to find inventory.
Either way, people are paying the high prices. The only question is are you paying to the black market, or to the retail. If I’m going to pay black market rates, I’d much rather have a reputable company on the other end of that transaction I can go to with complaints/support, and in the worst case sue, rather than some schmuck on gunbroker.
This is basic economics. Demand increased. Supply didn’t. Prices go up.
On the other hand, the stopping of sales is less excusable, and was a sign of cowardace
I’ve been with CTD for years and I always had excellent service, but I was very unhappy when they started playing silly games with gun sales. I wasn’t going to forgive them but if they stop selling to NY and other no good COMMIES, then I think I would do business with them again.
hell at the price they made off one ar15 is more than a car lot makes of the sale of a new chevy. there ammo is still priced to screw us I say f@#k em!! never a dime from me again, and I told them to stop sending me emails. 100.00 that’s squat. and shame on us for buying more ammo than we need we are screwing our selfs
I’m curious as to who owns CTD. Some person is making these stupid decisions. It would really be funny to learn that they’re owned by those same clowns who bought (and royally screwed up) Marlin.
I used to do a bunch of walk in business at CTD. That way I saved the shipping charges and was ahead even if I had to pay sales tax. They were a convenient stop off I-35 when I found myself in Ft Worth. My biggest gripe was that they never seemed to have much of what I wanted or needed in stock.
These days I can’t afford the gas to drive from OKC to Fort Worth too often so I’ll give other folks my business.
No. Absolutely NO. SAF gets money? Great. The donation: Just another ripe-as-stench move by a cynical outfit trying to play both sides of the fence. I hope they go out of business when this is all over.
The company clearly has no core convictions, other than to price gouge. I will never buy anything from them again.
You gotta be really spineless to change directions that fast and that often. Since we don’t know if we can trust them from day to day, there’s other companies that want my money just as bad, and don’t change with the wind. They’re going to have to earn my trust before they get my money. The donation to SAF was a good start, but only time will tell.
I meant what I said and I said what I meant
An elephant’s faithful, ONE HUNDRED PERCENT!
It’s always about the money with politicians. Stop giving them money.
“It needs to be clear that manufacturers will be able to still sell and transfer these high-capacity magazines to individuals in other states, the U.S. military and law enforcement,” Kagan said.
Kagan should pull his head out of his @$$.
He doesn’t want to lose the money for his state ,but, he will gladly bend the people of his state over and bar them from buying the products manufactured in their state.
GREAT JOB LaRue and Olympic. THANK YOU And to show my support I’m boycotting New York also,I DO ALOT OF TRAVEL AND SPEND LOTS OF MONEY !!! I’M CANCELING ALL TRAVEL THIS YEAR AND FUTURE DATES UNTIL NEW YORK GETS THERE ACT TOGETHER, I HAD PLANNED ON GOING TO THE STATUE OF LIBERTY BUT NOW FEEL THEY SHOULD RELOCATE IT TO A MORE PEOPLE FRIENDLY PLACE, ABOUT TIME PEOPLE STAND UP TO N.Y. GUN LAWS …ITS NEVER SEEMED FAIR TO ME THAT ONLY RESIDENCE CAN HAVE GUNS,THEY CAN CARRY GUNS TO YOUR STATE BUT YOU CAN’T TO THERE STATE !
I would be willing to buy some of the extra they don’t sell to LEOs if they take that stance.
Arizona is WONDERFUL when it comes to our 2nd Amendment God given rights!
Shooting with cramps sucks.
Shorthairs in the crosshairs !
Μολὼν Λαβέ, Bro.
So let’s see… if Magpul moves 1000 jobs to Texas or Arizona or Oklahoma or anywhere else, does that mean the Democrats can then take credit for 1000 jobs “created” in that state?
It seems none of these pols can do even basic math. Example: I live in Chicago ‘burbs & pay roughly $5000/yr in property taxes & roughly spend another $15,000/yr into the local economy (I don’t count my mortgage because that’s a national bank). That’s $20,000/yr give/take. In Magpul’s case for example, multiply that by 1000 hardworking folks & you’re looking @ at least $20 mil or more per year that’s not going into the state economy.
Still charging $99.97 for 30-round PMAGs. Fvck ’em; they’ll never see a cent from me.
“It needs to be clear that manufacturers will be able to still sell and transfer these high-capacity magazines to individuals in other states,”
Why does nobody mention this obvious hypocrisy? If there is a moral reason these Democrats feel that high capacity magazines shouldn’t be allowed in the hands of the citizens of their state, why do they feel it’s acceptable to export them to other states?
“…avid past Obama supporter running for Jessie Jackson, Jr.’s House seat in the gun-free utopia of Chicago (500+ murders in 2012).”
Replace one criminal democrat with another?
Sure, why not?
I’m more inclined to support CTD again if they continue their support of the SAF and the 2A. Sure, they screwed up, and I don’t trust them. More donations and support of legit 2A causes may change that. I’m still not shopping CTD, but I could forgive if they support freedom.
Good shows more and more new gun owners are joining us.
Absolutely. Millions of people who never really wanted a gun or never thought they needed a gun, now want a gun. Now, if they can only get one.
Russian girls!
Fellow women tell Feinstine come and try to take my rifle and Bayonet!!!!!
I want to see how CTD holds the line over the next year before I consider going back to them.
Common Sense Gun Control
My brother just called me from CO complaining he cant find a PMAG anywhere they all sold out today. He was whining because he had to spend $20 on steel mags….. I would kill to pay $20 instead of the $40 for prebans here in USSR of MA.
Interesting. PMags have been basically non-existent here in CO (and pretty much everywhere else) for months-at any price.
I have purchased from them in the past via their web store and I also visited two locations in the Dallas area as I have friends there. I had ordered some P-mags at the very beginning of the panic and the items were in stock, yet my order was canceled. When I went back to the site the items were still in stock but the price had been jacked. I understand supply and demand and the necessity to raise prices to a point but cancelling the order with product in stock was effing dirty. And now I know I should have bought them on Black Friday.
First of all, as others have noted the prices and shipping were not necessarily the best.
Secondly, a one-time donation to SAF? What did they do last year or the year before or I don’t know, every year? This is not a small business and that amount does not impress me.
Third, are they going to be in business in the future or are there enough gun owners boycotting them to shut them down for good?
They are working in the right direction but it will take them a long time to demonstrate to many, myself included, that they are worthy. Remember Ruger?
At this time I can’t say never as I am not a very old man, but if they want any of my business or that of people I know, any time in the foreseeable future, then they had better get a couple dozen P-mags in the mail, no charge, right away.
“Ladies Patriotic Front Resistance Group of Chelyabinsk poses to show readiness to defend Rodina from bands of National Socialists, Cossacks and meteorites.”
(Note: Ladies Patriotic Front Resistance Group of Chelyabinsk was liquidated on the afternoon of 15 February 2013 for their failure to protect Rodina from meteorites.)
$3900 colt LE6920….unforgiven
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/GUN-6920
The ads svck, they auto play and I cant mute or pause them.
There is no room in the Democratic party for anyone who is pro-2nd amendment, pro-life, or pro-business. If they tell you they are any of the three they are probably lying and if they’re not they’ll be drummed out of the party.
If only one life would be saved for cops to be disarmed, we need to do it! (sarcasm off)
Maybe they should get an NRA certified trainer. I’ve never worked with one where even the possibility of this could happen. But then what does an organization that has been training the proper and safe use of firearms for 142 years know.
I live in NJ and cannot legally purchase many of Magpul’s products (and I don’t own any AR type rifles), but if they do indeed move out of Colorado because of this new law I’ll simply send them a donation or buy some swag to help with their moving expenses.
ALL firearms owners across the country need to band together to support these companies who takes our rights very seriously, even if there are similar difficulties in your own locations.
That’s not an accident – that is negligence.
That may be your gun boy but these are our rifles!
I always thought that using the office of sheriff to build a militia would be an excellent way to get prepared. You know how many arms makers just need to see a letter head and . . . viola – military grade harware of everykind? Not to mention free harware (and money) you confiscate off trollups. Plus, some people could only fight for freedom if uniforms are involved. Hey, if they need a ball cap w/ a star on it to fight I say lets give it to them.
If on the cops have guns then you become one to get free.
Filling in for the weekend as the LAPD regroups, spokeswomen Inia Lazlo commented, “Sure, we’re not high-speed, but we don’t shoot random trucks, either.”
I wonder what Magpul’s majority owners think about this situation? They’re who I’d really like to hear from.
I’ll still buy from them based on these provisions:
1. Their latest action is clearly pro-2A
2. No one else has the part in stock for a comparable price
That being said I still want what I want, and I will stand on principle to not order from them if they’re being dicks again. But they seem to be trying to clear up their stance now. Cowards they may be, but if their stance is in line with mine then it’s another ally. They can have my money if they have what I want, but they’ll be the last stop now, not the first or second anymore.
Many cops are hired not because they are the best man for the job but simply they are liberal hence more cops shoot there own foot off than regular gun owners do.
I would say you are 1/2 correct – that is most men hired for the police are guys that get off on looking in the mirror, ordering people around and can pass a background check and a psych test.
I believe that, like teachers, most of them are in it for the wrong reasons. And unfortunately for us and our children in public schools – the majority of losers wreck it for the few that are there for the right reasons.
Russian women are known for their beauty, wisdom, and the speed at which the former becomes the latter.
So when is the announcement that Mag-pul will no longer supply any police dept in those cities or states?
“now the Denver Post is reporting that the Colorado legislature is more than slightly concerned about the prospects of a move”
— If true then what the hxck did the legislature expect by the initial threats of a magazine ban?
“We want them (Magpul) to stay here in Colorado. It would be sad to see them leave.”
— The double-standards and hypocrisy of politicians is despicable.
Nope. No forgiveness. They are still gouging. $79 for a glock 17 mag is ridiculous.
I hope the democrats are happy about the damage they will inflict with the loss of jobs and revenue in Colorado as they celebrate their moral victory. Unfortunately the Sheeple of Colorado voted for these politicians, and will probably reelect them. The Liberal left wing faction has no clue regarding economics, nor do they care about the consequences of their decisions. Too bad this is not getting more media exposure.
thank you for being men and women for the people of your country. if others dont follow suit they should fall to the courts rulings then they will be their to be blamed by America for more unemployed citizens not the illegal border jumpers. its a company like yours that keeps us strong and the enemy and gangs weak. if Smith & Wesson Barret colt Beretta and other companies in the USA cant follow your lead then they failed the people. keep the USA strong but smart not dumb and blind.
HELL NO WE WON’T FORGIVE THEM!
Oh wait, have I responded to this already. It seems as if I have…
Karma? Wasn’t the a$$hat chief of police from Baltimore backing Fineswine at the congressional hearing in DC?
That Beretta Moscow store is beautiful. I like the idea of classy gun stores.
“To assume this firing position, first place your non-firing cankle in front of your firing cankle”
I hate to keep repeating myself but the one thing these people understand is MONEY.
We 2A folks can speak with our wallets. Made in Colorado – fughetaboutit. No skiing vacations there either. Let them rot in the vine…. Same goes with NY and CA.
I’ve bought tens of thousands of dollars in the past from B&H in NYC. I just closed my account with them and told them why. Same with GlockStore.com (CA) – account closed. Ditto Optics Planet (IL). And on and on….
Some people may not realize that their “storage and security” practices may not be up to par. Perhaps those are the ones that should not own guns in the first place. Just sayin.’
Hey All Picked up my New sig P210-9 Limited First Edition. Yes Special, Will it be used? Yes a bit, Is it true to the precision and quality we all hear?Absolutely. Is it for everybody? certaintly not. This is a gun as a tool is remarkable, It is everything anyone could want as far as accuracy, fit and finish. Shoot or Not, It is well worth the inexpensive price that most seem to think over priced. To each thier own, If you like this piece and you can afford, can’t go wrong…….. Peter
Does anyone know why California, Illinois and Minnesota were not included? Minnesota is marketed as the model for the gun control initiatives. Having reviewed and commented extensively to members of that house about the proposed (horrific) initiatives should have qualified it. Feinstein’s campaign should have earned California a place on the list. Perhaps they will be added later.
Just sent this to Cabela’s asking them to do the same as Midway.
Midway, one of your online competitors, recently stated that they will not sell to Law Enforcement Officers; anywhere that Mag or Ammo bans exist for civilians. I would suggest that your company consider doing the same. As a longtime customer of both Midway and Cabela’s and having spent tens of thousands of dollars over the years at both retailers, I can say that Midway’s actions have really impressed me.
I’m suggesting to all of you to contact your retailers of choice and ask them to join this battle for our rights. They owe it to us.
One has to wonder, after reading this great letter, where all of this will end?
I am afraid that one of these shoves by what is fast becoming a tyranical government will result in a push back that includes gunfire.
The leftist progressives elite in government and in the main stream media had better pause and take another look around. If they continue to delude themselves with any thoughts that they are going to win this attack on the inalienable rights given to us by God and guaranteed by the US Constitution, then they are going to find out that we were right:
The 2nd Amendment really isn’t about hunting and sporting uses.
Talk is cheap. Arrest the governor.
Wow…and before he clicked send, he thought this was an A paper….
My lord. . . this guy is no marine! With spelling like that he would never have made it past the sign-up table in the high-school lunch room!
Read the whole thing.
I think the quote about the only people in Japan who have guns are the police, the military and THE MOB, says it all.
When guns are outlawed… you know the rest.
Thats right out of the Great Britain playbook. If this passes tape up the entire gun so they can’t identify it. If they just want to see that the gun is stored properly no pictures or documenting is necessary. Its worth a try not saying this will work, Randy
Big whoop, .029% of their investments, such a big stand. What s bunch of douches….
Wow. All of that just to say “the squeaky wheel gets the grease”.
My house has been free of cricket bats for years now. I recommend you all do the same, or you might wake up dead some day.
Can’t say I’m surpised given that this drug addled misfit imbued a classic automobile with an animal instinct and a desire to kill people. Of course he would think that firearms have a mind of their own and just want to jump off the counter and chase you around the room firing ‘teflon coated cop-killer assault bullets’ at your heels making you dance.
He needs more medication. He probably wants to be stranded in a gas station hidding from eighteen wheelers.
Why are you guys so awesome???
Perhaps they should start a new program where private citizens can volunteer to foster street guns, with the option of adopting.
What’s with the dance moves? He needs to learn a shoulder width stance.
I bought my own .22 with paper route money when I was 11 and could ride all over this county with it on my bike, and no one thought it was unusual. We were expected to act like we had good sense, and not allowed any other options. It was a matter of pride to be trusted, you just didn’t violate that trust.
Considering how much they have been gouging customers on ammunition prices as well as firearms prices I’ll spend my money elsewhere no matter what they do. Their back and forth policy changes and the price gouging show a lack of integrity that I want nothing to do with.
NO Friggin way!!! Damn thieves… I hoped they enjoy the highway robbery prices.
If they sold water in the desert it would have been 50 bucks a sip.
Screw “Cheaper than Dirt”
#1- They have been price gouging on .22lr for months. I don’t blame anyone for trying to take advantage if they can get what the market will pay – HOWEVER – I won’t forget their name and will never do business with such an outfit once the shortage ends (which it has, by the way).
#2- I had no idea they had caved to political correctness earlier this year. That alone would have put them on my black list. Now I just feel better having done so.
(PS Add LAX Ammo to the list of .22lr price gougers. And I agree with the props for Cabela’s. They stayed true to the actual price of 22lr and all other ammo throughout the last six month panic)
Case in point: It’s 8/4/2013 and they are charging “our low price” of $149.59 + SH for a measly 375 rounds of bulk .22lr CCI “AR Tactical” (basically, MiniMags)
That’s 40 cents a round for bulk .22lr ammunition.
40 CENTS A ROUND!
By the way, I picked up two boxes of this at Cabela’s last week for $29.99 … 8 cents a round, which is precisely what it should be.
The fact that “Cheaper than Dirt” continues this crap is all the more reason to never, never, never buy from them in the future.
Remember they want to punish 2nd amendment folk by making prices high by either raising taxes or buying huge amount of product and or any other mechanism they can come of with. You are all correct and not supporting Dick or CTD and any one else that has an agenda of anti-2nd amendment, or any crazy misguided thought about guns. Hypocracy at its best ….do not give them your money.
What CTD did was a knee jerk reaction to that CT thing,..many co’s did the same even Armalite. I still use them and will continue.They are alot quicker shipping than Buds too.
Agree completely. I have had a 90+ percent overall satisfaction and have done a lot of buying of firearms, ammo, surplus, etc.
Disclaimer: Following the whole Sandy Hook False Flag many companies reacted in knee-jerk fashion and CTD was just caught up in the frenzy. That being said isn’t it funny how so many “sheeple” jump on a bandwagon and you can find a “discussion” where everyone is just patting each other on the back as they all voice their “opinion” which as evident above is exactly the same as everyone else. I however will dissent and proudly say I have in the past, do now and will continue to do business with this company because I for one appreciate a diverse selection, nominal pricing and expedient shipping. So every above that just keeps spewing what everyone else has already said enjoy the camaraderie and then go and place your next CTD order.
I used to buy a lot from CTD. Then the unadulterated reamage began. Then the suspension of sales. I hope they enjoyed the momentary surge in profits, because that was the very last they will ever see from me. I vote with my wallet in these cases, and they are dead to me.
When CTD advertised 30rd AR mags for $125 during the fiasco that followed Newtown they lost me as a customer.
During the ammo shortage, CTD seemed to charge the highest prices despite the fact that manufacturers held their wholesale prices at or near normal. From my perspective, they can’t buy their way out of that ill-conceived decision and I will not order from them again.
Cheaper Than Dirt? Who is that? Never heard of em. /end sarcasm
I’m more angry about them raising their prices to cash in on hysteria. That’s like something Fegelein would do, it’s wrong! I’m not paying seventy-five dollars for my Kalashnikov horns, damnit! That’s something I’d expect from Fegelein, Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein!
Sorry but Cheaper than Dirt I will not buy from.. First, I can usually find the same things elsewhere for a better price ESPECIALLY when you consider CTD shipping costs… Nope, after their actions and the way they do business, I will not purchase from them.
They won’t sell ammunition to us here, so they were dead to us anyway.
Even if we could get past the prices.
And it’s still the dumbest name in the business. Who wants dirt associated with their guns?
I haven’t bought from Cheaper since November 2013. I never expect to again. Spineless weaklings.
To Hell with CTD! Cheaper than Dirt sells mostly cheap Chinese crapola anyway. This scum laden bunch seems intent on antagonizing and insulting their law abiding customers and get some sort of Liberal/Democrat thrill out of doing it.
I don’t forgive or forget.
Nope they are still dead to me.
I would much rather give my money to my LGS. I thoroughly enjoy visiting the owner at his shop and soaking in new knowledge every visit. That’s something you won’t get from CTD. That being said, I won’t fully boycott them. If they have an excellent deal on something I want, I will jump on it. Even with that, I’d say that 75% of my purchases go to my LGS.
I would not buy a single item from CTD, even if they were the only vendor that had it.
They gouged mecilessly during the crisis, so no, they are dead to me.
Hell no fuck them magpul price increasing bastardsm, they can rot in hell with Obama
Just looked at buying a muzzleloader from Cheaper than Dirt, they wont ship to California. Muzzleloaders are not even on the radar in California. I can walk into any store and pick one up, not a problem. All of the big sites will ship with the exception of Sportsman’s Guide of Minnesota. another weird one. Cabelas, Gander Mountain, Midwayusa ETC etc etc will ship.
These two sites might be politically connected to big time liberals or maybe a Bloomberg type who is a major stockholder they would follow there marching orders. i don’t have their stock portfolios so I can only guess. The main thing is buying from Cheaper than Dirt/Sportsman’s Guide is buying from the enemy, if you give them your money your giving them your soul!
Truy no matter if someone doesn’t understand then its up to other people that they will help, so
here it happens.
I stopped using ctd when a order i tryed to place with them went nuts..84$ worth of stuff was gonna coat me $153 and change.. seems the vest came out of 1 warehouse and 1 of 3 spring kits came out of another warehouse and the pin kits came out of yet a third warehouse.. each warehouse charged separate shipping..needles to say i canceled the order and havent been back.
Don’t forget that NATCHEZ did the same thing after Sandy Hook!
In the past I did business with CTD. I have purchased firearms (handguns to be exact) when their store was just off of I-35W, and convenient to where I sometimes traveled for business. Their staff seemed knowledgeable and friendly. Their prices were comparable to Academy, but they had the pistols in stock whereas Academy did not (on that particular day).
Fast forward to about three months after my last firearm purchase there – about three days after the Sandy Hook hoax. I had their latest copy of their mailed catalog in hand. I went to their catalog sales counter and asked for five of the magazines shown listed as $9 each. They rang up as $29 each! I pointed out that the price was way above their catalog price, and that I had a current issue (same week). They explained that they were forced to raise prices as their supplier was doing the same. Hmmm, seems to be a hokey story, if you ask me. These were S. Korean military surplus M-1 Carbine 15 round magazines, so I am thinking that the bulk importer hadn’t even been contacted by their buyers. So, recognizing them as being opportunistic scavengers, I have written them off forever. I have found a very reasonably priced LGS that gets my business now.
CTD, I have a long memory, and that day where I stood at your counter and was lied to and you attempted to gouge me for a commodity will never be forgotten. I also make it a point to share my experience with my fellow shooters. Good luck with your flexible moral stance and opportunistic pricing schemes.
The consumers have spoken. Are you listening?
CTD is a no go for me as well. For gun purchases, I’ve started going with http://www.threegunstore.com. They only sell pistols, rifles, and shotguns, but their prices are the lowest by far. I’ll continue to get my accessories at midway.