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Philadelphia District Attorney Larry Krasner (AP Photo/Matt Rourke)
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In a recent article at the New York Times, the pearl-clutching over rising civilian gun ownership in Philadelphia went unexpectedly off the anti-gun rails when they talked to the city’s infamous prosecutor, Larry Krasner.

Krasner has taken a lot of heat for his non-prosecution handling of criminals in the City of Brotherly Love, like many of his fellow “progressive” prosecutors who were supported by George Soros. The mayor, the police commissioner, the police union and Republican state lawmakers have all taken their turns publicly attacking him and his office’s policies.

But the focus of the article is the fact that gun ownership — both legal and not — has skyrocketed in the increasingly dangerous city. The number of those carrying legally has soared. As the Times notes with horror . . .

The number of firearm licenses issued in the city jumped to more than 52,000 in 2021, from around 7,400 in 2020.

But it’s those without permits that Krasner has in mind. His ideas about how police should handle those who carry illegally sound almost based.

Krasner argues that arresting and imprisoning people for the mere possession of a firearm not only doesn’t help lower crime, but makes the problem worse by taking police time and resources away from actual violent crimes. He also points out that it chases off people who investigators should be talking to when investigating violent criminals.

“You can make massive numbers of gun arrests, and you do not see significant reductions in shooting,” he told the Times. And, he’s basically right.

The city’s records show that police made no arrests in three-quarters of the 486 fatal shootings in Philly in 2021 (more than 300 so far this year). At the same time, they racked up a record number of arrests for having a gun without a permit.

Only a small fraction of the people who are arrested for carrying guns without permits are the ones actually driving the violence, Mr. Krasner said. He insisted that the city needed to focus instead on people who had already proven themselves to be dangerous, and to invest in advanced forensic technology to clear the hundreds of unsolved shootings.

“What is their theory — that rather than go vigorously after the people who actually shoot the gun,” Mr. Krasner asked, “that we should take 100 people and put them in jail, because one of them might shoot somebody?”

That could almost be a commercial for passage of constitutional carry in the Keystone State.

While I’m sure his motivations for thinking this way differ from most readers here, and I doubt he’d support an actual constitutional carry law, it shows that even so-called progressives are starting to give up on the hoary old idea that strict licensing and permitting is an effective public safety measure. And he’s far from the only progressive working in the criminal justice system to be thinking that way.

As we’ve pointed out in past stories, public defenders from blue states and Democrat-run cities and counties frequently speak out against tough or outright discriminatory enforcement of gun control laws because they not only don’t reduce violent crime, they often end up being used disproportionately against minorities.

Public defenders in New York backed the challenge of New York’s corrupt may-issue concealed carry system in NYSRPA v Bruen, for example. Also, Chicago’s public defenders have spoken out about aggressive anti-gun policing, including the ridiculous prosecution of a black man whose CCW permit had expired only weeks earlier.

Faced with rising violent crime rates — much of it the result of policies those on the left support and have implemented — many less enlightened “progressives” who don’t get to see how badly gun control fails first hand think that going even harder against guns is going to somehow produce better results.

There are obviously those who have come to see that gun control doesn’t work to reduce crime, yet have other motives for promoting civilian disarmament. But, what we see here in Krasner’s comments is that there are still some on the other side who recognize the failure of gun control laws as any kind of effective tool against violent crime.

When they acknowledge that gun control doesn’t work, it’s worth taking notice.

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  1. On one hand it sounds great and logical. Problem is Soros typically only backs snakes so I can’t help but wait for the bite while I cheer the thought of constitutional carry.

    • Basically what he is saying is as a trade off. Its okay for criminals to continue to carry Illegally, as long as Law Abiding citizens are allowed to carry. What part of this makes any sense? How about Law Abiding citizens can Legally Carry and Continue to Arrest and Jail Criminals. This sounds like a Backdoor Excuse to continue the Criminal Justice Reform policies that are directly responsible for the rise in rampant crime and murder rates all across the nation.

  2. He’s safe in suggesting CC. After all, it’s all moot now that NY has pretty much made every place “sensitive” that prohibit guns anyhow.

    CA is watching NY with greedy eyes and preparing AB918. Imitation, as the saying goes, is the sincerest form of flattery…

    • We shall see how the injunction hearing goes. But yeah if it goes any way besides shut down I expect a few states will jump on board the exclusion express.

  3. Armed Robbery Suspect Shot By Armed Store Clerk

    https://concealednation.org/2022/08/armed-robbery-suspect-shot-by-armed-store-clerk/

    Bad guy armed with knife.

    Just to note for criminal knife attacks:

    ~1,300 victims of violent criminal knife attacks daily across the U.S.

    of those victims armed with a firearm and employing DGU, over 80% of those victims repel the attacker and have no injuries or (rarely) sometimes minor injuries.

    Of those victims not armed with a firearm, even if armed with other weapons or complying, over 80% of those victimes are seriously injured or killed (including dying later as a result of wounds)

    • To add:

      Author Salman Rushdie Stabbed In The Neck While On Stage Before Speech

       https://concealednation.org/2022/08/author-salman-rushdie-stabbed-in-the-neck-while-on-stage-before-speech/

      • I came hear to comment about Rushdie getting stabbed while getting moderated earlier. That comment has mysteriously reappeared. Who boy what a website…🙄 It’s ALWAYS the person not the weapon!

  4. I’m willing to bet he’s only talking about prohibited persons carrying a firearm as a non-crime. Because the same person his office declined to prosecute for his 5th armed robbery is getting harder and harder to sneak by a Judge on his 6th arrest of Felon with a firearm.

  5. quote———–There are obviously those who have come to see that gun control doesn’t work to reduce crime———–quote

    History proves the moron wrong who posted this.

    Most road rage murders would never happen if loaded guns were outlawed in vehicles as they are in most European countries and their much lower crime rates with guns proves it.

    Europeans have safe storage laws which helps prevent gun thefts which puts thousands of guns into the hands of criminals.

    Europeans have Universal Background checks which again prevents thousands of criminals and lunatics from getting guns.

    The Brady Bill in just the 1st 20 years prevented over 2 million felons from buying guns and if it had not been gutted by the NRA it would have vetted second hand gun sales and prevented at least 6 million criminals and psycho’s from getting guns.

    Constitutional carry is a Far Right illusion and fantasy.

    Constitutional Carry is unworkable in the U.S. because each state has its own concealed carry laws and no citizen would be able to know when he could and could not use deadly force as he traveled through multitudes of different States. The States all have their own separate qualifications to carry concealed as well and all of the states would ignore a Federal Constitutional Carry Law. Get caught and they would still throw you in the slammer.

    • dacian would know more about “moron” than anyone else here. And “dumbass”.

      Someone send him a copy of the Constitution. When he gets to High School perhaps he can learn it.

    • Dumbass. Constitutional carry means that the states do not set laws on who can and who can’t carry. Constitutional carry means the individual decides.

      And how hard is it to understand? Deadly force is legal in all 50 states in defense of one’s life and the lives of other victims.

      All you have is lies. Your arguments are not valid in a civilized society.

    • “Most road rage murders would never happen if loaded guns were outlawed in vehicles as they are in most European countries and their much lower crime rates with guns proves it.”

      We still are not Europe. People have had firearms in their vehicles as long as there have been vehicles. Firearms are not causing the violence, they never have. What causes road rage violence and death? A lack of self control of the individual engaged in the act. Where does this lack of self control come from?

      “Europeans have safe storage laws which helps prevent gun thefts which puts thousands of guns into the hands of criminals.”

      Which Country in Europe has the safe storage law you want here? What exactly is stated by that law? I mean if you want to pass a law, be able to state what it is beyond a title or bumper sticker.

      “Europeans have Universal Background checks which again prevents thousands of criminals and lunatics from getting guns”

      Do you really believe criminals and lunatics are going thru background checks to get their guns in Europe or any where else?

      “The Brady Bill in just the 1st 20 years prevented over 2 million felons from buying guns and if it had not been gutted by the NRA it would have vetted second hand gun sales and prevented at least 6 million criminals and psycho’s from getting guns”

      We hear that there were 2 million denials, but how many were false positives? How many were allowed to reapply and receive a go? Of those denied that had a verified reason for denial, how many were arrested and tried for attempting to commit a felony? Why have any law you will not enforce?

      If there are 6 million psyhco’s and criminals possessing firearms, shouldn’t the rate of murder by firearm be near a million a year or at least a few million over a twenty year period?

      “Constitutional carry is a Far Right illusion and fantasy.

      Constitutional Carry is unworkable in the U.S. because each state has its own concealed carry laws and no citizen would be able to know when he could and could not use deadly force as he traveled through multitudes of different States. The States all have their own separate qualifications to carry concealed as well and all of the states would ignore a Federal Constitutional Carry Law. Get caught and they would still throw you in the slammer.”

      We have a maze of regulations within each States jurisdictions. Have a laser on your CCW in Illinois your fine, until you cross into Cook County.

      Deadly force is a simple and universal concept. If a forcible felony is occurring or about to occur, then deadly force is lawful. Any jurisdiction that denies that is denying your born right of self defense. When used to defend another, it is the same as self defense. There really shouldn’t be a disparity between States about that. At least we are not the UK where people have been arrested for self defense.

      I doubt you will address any point made in rebuttal in a serious manner. You have yet to do so.

    • O, you smug little shiit weasel: Road Rage , Stoopid will NOT then go away you Phony Brit/ Stoopid as Sh** If you dumb down anymore thinking you’re so smart and believing we’re so stupid you may be able to one day convince that Beeyotch Queen you cower under and wet yourself to give you an audience to ‘supplicate’ yourself in front of her and lick her jackboots. On your knees boy! Where you belong .Where are you really from azzwipe? Newark? Chiraq? CANADA! That’s It!!! You’re to scuzzy and vile to be from here, kinda smarmy, I bet patsy … I mean pasty white too!. You are probably in luv w/ that Troo-Doe character and wouldn’t mind a meeting ‘under is table’ w/ him. You both probably swing from both sides of the plate ? amirite????
      Just don’t get any idea’s you are a Patriot son- Sir Receiver of butt-plugs. If we ever got the chance to meet, I don’t drink myself personally, but I would like to buy you your favvourite last meal (when you are as old as I am, Life in prison isn’t much of a deterrent.) But I’d like to give it a Shot! ‘We could ave been pal’s mate! Cheers!

      wit respect,
      you’re faithful servant,
      GA

    • “History proves the moron wrong who posted this.”

      You know, it’s funny. I read this sentence, looked up a couple lines to the byline–dacian–and thought, well at least he’s got that part right.

      Didn’t need to read any more of the post.

    • Yep when a criminals and terrorist needs full auto weapons in the EU they can get them, cheap!!!

      Yep when criminals and terrorist needs grenades in the EU they can get them, cheap!!!!

      Yep when criminals and terrorist needs C4 in the EU they can get them, cheap!!!

      Yep when criminals and terrorist needs to transport said weapons, they can easily!!!

  6. “progressives are starting to give up on the hoary old idea that strict licensing and permitting is an effective public safety measure.”

    Yeah they want to go pure Eurowussie/Oz and ban firearms.

  7. Hey, Dacien asshole —

    “Most road rage murders would never happen if loaded guns were outlawed in vehicles …”

    And they wouldn’t happen if vehicles were outlawed.

    You believe that I shouldn’t be able to carry a loaded weapon in my car to protect myself? It’s prevented me from coming to grievous harm twice in my life thus far. So f*** you!

    “Europeans have safe storage laws which helps prevent gun thefts …”

    So I shouldn’t be able to quickly and easily access my weapon should I be attacked in my home? F*** you!!

    “Europeans have Universal Background checks …”

    You want me to subject myself and my sister to unnecessary background checks should I gift a weapon to her who is a lawful person? Tell you what — I will when you are successful in getting every criminal on the street to submit to them. Until then — f*** you!!!

    “The Brady Bill in just the 1st 20 years prevented over 2 million felons from buying guns …”

    Prove it, and show your work. Oh, by the way — f*** you!!!

  8. Pfui. Krasner is a Philadelphia lawyer. I’m not going to turn MY back on him.

  9. “While I’m sure his motivations for thinking this way differ from most readers here, and I doubt he’d support an actual constitutional carry law…”

    except that’s the key to this mess. He doesn’t want people to be able to legally carry a gun and defend themselves. He wants people to have to break the law. It may sound “based” until you find yourself in a position where you have to defend yourself and, for whatever reason, do not fit the mold of people that Krasnar thinks are being punished unjustly by the system.

    Remember how hard they tried to nail Rittenhouse to a wall? Don’t think that Krasnar wouldn’t do that to you in a second if the narrative was similar.

    For Mr. Krasnar, it’s okay if some law-abiding people get away with it but that’s the problem- they still have to “get away with it.” It’s the sort of policy that deteriorates rule of law and respect for law even more.

    • Hannibal. I’m a veteran. Retired from a school district job. Comfortable financially. No record except for traffic tickets, the last of which was decades ago. Father and grandfather. Passed multiple security clearances and could still pass them today. I have known and still know members of law enforcement at state and local and federal level. Some are/where family.

      When law enforcement loses my respect they’ve lost the nations. I can not honestly say I have any respect left for the law or its soldiers. Its sad. But its true.

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