The People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) don’t like hunting. They don’t consider it ethical. Practical. Or desirable. The anti-hunting org would like the rest of the world to see it their way. To that end, they’re promoting, selling ($324.99) and deploying video-enabled Air Angel Drones [above], complete with a flying bunny logo. In terms of stopping hunting perhaps PETA should have opted for a winged pig logo. Anyway, I predict we’re going to see—well someone’s going to see—a lot of crash videos on PETA’s Drone-specific YouTube channel. Here’s PETA’s sales pitch . . .
Using your hobby drone, you can collect instant to-your-phone video footage of hunters engaging in illegal activity, such as drinking while in possession of a firearm, injuring animals and failing to pursue them, and illegally using spotlights, feed lures, and other nasty but common hunting tricks. Your amateur footage can be used to alert game wardens and other authorities to who is doing what to animals.
While hunters hide in trees or pretend to be ducks in order to inflict harm, hobby drone operators who are always careful not to interfere with wildlife or hunters just may end up saving lives.
So PETA doesn’t want members to use Air Angel Drones to harass hunters or scare away animals before the hunters can shoot them. Of course not. Because it says nothing of the sort in their ad copy. D’uh. Funny that the drones used are model ARs.
@BlinkyPete
It could mean the exact opposite. That they might go the other way and reduce requirements, thus more forms are filed and more examiners are going to be needed. Or is that just my wishful thinking?
I mean, maybe I’m just being a pessimist since I have no actual experience here, but my thinking is that registering NFA items to trusts or corporations doesn’t involve going over CLEO signatures, fingerprints and background checks. When you throw those into the mix for far more transactions (apparently 39k last year) I feel like you’re going to need lots more people.
Just my thinking.
Looks like I’ll need to keep a shotgun handy this year as well as the rifle. I just wonder if there’s a bag limit on these . . .
On drones? WHAT drones? I haven’t seen any drones, officer. Are you sure you’re feeling OK?
I smell a new sport in the making
Nah. Best weapon against off-the-shelf PETA drones would be an off-the-shelf hack of the control signal. Buy one, figure out how to hack the signal, and publish how to do it to everyone. Then have folks hack the signal, fly the PETA drones into a tall tree or a cliff, etc.
I was thinking more along the lines of a high end wrist rocket. Silent, and capable of shooting a 50 cal ball at drone crushing speeds. A 3-4 hundred dollar drone isn’t going to have very advanced optics package so it it will need to be flown low (i.e. it will be more disruptive). All one needs to do is adopt a concealed position and wait for a good shot. One ball center mass should do quite a bit of damage.
Wait… people WITHOUT guns want to harass people WITH guns? And they want their yards filled up with deer, rabbits and squirrels? Which means foxes, bobcats and cougars show up also?
Wow, they really DO live on an imaginary planet.
Does drone have a season or is it always open?
PULL!!!!
So the smart hunter lays low while the drone scurries around over head distracting the animals. Boom. Bag the animal and then write a thank you note to peta for being your drivers. Take photos of your kill assisted by peta and post it on their website.
LOL flying targets.
Wait a minute. I thought we at TTAG were against expanding government? More supervisors for how many employees? Taking my tax dollars to pay for a service I can’t use. Wrong, wrong says I.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2426290,00.asp
Drone dectection. Your move, PETA.
I’m still leaning towards the red jacket firearms bullpup stock.
Well, there was a thing recently about getting a drone hunting license, wasn’t there? Demand, meet supply.
I am now inspired to shoot a rabbit. Or a squirrel, whatever. Well done PETA.
In American murders about 80% of the perpetrators have long criminal records and 80% of the decadents also have long criminal records. They don’t need “gun safety education,” they need to be IN jail on their earlier offenses.
Dan has been played for a fool by Eastern anti-gun money. I’ll bet $1 that if we dig deep enough we’ll find Michael Bloomberg’s money or someone bought by it.
Looks like a market opportunity. New type of shot? Jammers?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chain-shot
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2426290,00.asp
I haven’t had a small game license in a number of years. Might be time to pay up so I can hunt small drones. That would be some fun.
The ones PETA sells on their site are Wi-Fi drones that will pretty much require the operator to keep line-of-site and won’t work well in any significant winds. No live-camera feed to control it either. The video on their site shows much more expensive ‘hobby-drones’ that cost thousands of dollars. The one shot down in the article John posted a link to above possibly cost more than a used car. That article said more than $4,000 damage to the camera, which would make it a very expensive camera system.
Oh, and lithium-polymer batteries do not react good to being damaged. Not good at all.
I say its open season on all “drones”. 🙂
So those knobs would actually be out in the really real wild? Like out of their parent’s basement and out of the ‘burbs? Yeah, having ill equipped citiots (city+idiots) tromp around without a modicum of field craft, probably not wearing orange, play with presumably loud as hell r/c toys that will have limited range; sounds like they’d be free drivers. Are they going to be trespassing to get their footage? Someone mentioned Hevi-Shot, but isn’t that steel? I say, if you’re going to shoot down any PETA drones, use lead, none of that eco-friendly steel ammo, save that for the wetlands. Let’s not forget the really real great outdoors has climate – imagine how hard it’d be to fly in the brush/forest with a crosswind without getting tangled.
You have to remember that F-Troop are another government bureaucracy, so adding more resources will not make any improvements. Like my local favourite agency Centrelink, “never before will so much effort be devoted to doing so little”.
I might just buy one of these just to film myself killing animals and then of course skinning the animal, then hurling the remaining carcass into the brush.
“Animal slayer 8904” filmed by the PETA Air Angel
I tried to carve mine to look like Shannon Watts(TM) but I couldn’t make the neck long enough
These MDA folks make me think of ex-junkies who start drug treatment centers.
They will tell you what’s good for you. Shut up. Don’t comment or contradict. You’re wrong. Period.
These people murder puppies. Fvck them. For real…and their “air angels”.
Do you get to take it home and mount it on the wall?
What a joke, short range and short run time. No way they will keep up with me over one day let alone multiple days of hunting. It is also illegal here, but only a misdemeanor, to interfere with legal hunting. If they are close enough to use this I would either be walking up to them and reporting them or taking a 10 minute walk to let their batteries die.
The math doesn’t add up. I am not trying to justify a killing. However, if you take the heaviest bullet with the most muzzle velocity and the distance traveled it doesn’t add up. Check the load data for yourself. http://www.hodgdon.com/PDF/muzzleloading_manual_2008.pdf?CHECKBOX_1=on
Even if aimed horizontally the bullet could only travel for .17 seconds. It could not even travel a mile before hitting the ground. Something was left out or mistaken.
As minuscule as the chance would be, had that bullet come back to earth and landed in someone he would be charged with manslaughter… And rightfully so
Take a serious look at that thing. Basically a piece of pipe, wood, a steel mending plate, a spring, a couple hose clamps, and a couple screws. Not much to it.
That is why gun control will never work.
unfortunately, ammo control, specifically primer control can work…
Since these are essentially single shot guns, home made lead balls, black powder, and flint would be harder to control.
Ammo is too expensive – no warning shots will be fired.
Love those SST slugs. Shot a running doe in the side at ~30yds, deer was down within another 100, and I found the polymer tip in a blood puddle. Devastating round.
I don’t need the Patriot PIllow. When I go to bed, the day’s carry piece sits right on the nightstand.
Is it “secured”? – not really. Everyone in my house is a responsible, gun-versed adult that I know I can trust with my guns. As far as outsiders are concerned – between locked doors, locked windows, an alarm system and 2 hyper-vigilant Newfoundlands that bark at a squirrel farting at 100 yards, I think the only people accessing my nightstand gun will do so with my immediate consent. And then, the handgun is only really needed to accompany me down the hall to the long gun safe where I’ll trade out for whatever long arm I think I’ll need.
That product is a “solution” looking for a problem.
If you have kids, a quick-access safe in plain sight bolted down to a nightstand is more than fine. If you don’t have kids, a bedside holster, or just setting it on the nightstand is just fine, assuming your residence has proper alarms and is locked up.
Pot? Kettle. Kettle? Pot. Now we’re all introduced. Now go away.
how come no one has made an anti drone? a drone that attacks drones?
have it shoot a net, water, organic silly string…or whatever is legal. an attack drone would be fun in its self….
300 flying targets
I’ve been hoping for something like this. I always wanted a reason to mount a 40mm BOFORS on my truck or atv.
Am i the only person on the planet who doesn’t like these things?
To those that wonder why we bash Century:
Joe and I bought Century Bulgarian AK-74s at the same time. His had a badly canted front sight, and mine had the wrong caliber barrel. 50% critical defects so far, although I discovered my barrel issue quickly and my dealer made Century replace it. Joe had to pay a gunsmith $45 to straighten and re-pin his Bulgy’s front sight.
Joe also had a Century Polish Tantal with the wrong-caliber (or wrong-twist) barrel. It was a keyholing, inaccurate POS: 20 inch groups at 50 yards! Century replaced it, but even the “new” one will only shoot 53 grain 7N6 without keyholing, and even those will likely keyhole in really cold weather. No Wolf 60 grainers for you, Mr. Grine! Now 66% critical defects, with 3 guns.
Joe has a Century Golani Sporter, which, as is typical for these Century builds, jams on the last round. 3 out of 4 guns have problems.
Joe also bought a VZ 2008 which simply self-destructed after two hundred rounds – the barrel wasn’t pinned in correctly. Once again, Century refused to fix it, because it sat on the FFL’s shelf too long. 4 for 5 suckage rate: Failure rate now 80% over five rifles.
80% critical defects is 100% unacceptable. This is why we slam Century. When they change their QA and warranty policies, we’ll change our opinion.
Any problems with that?
Where I live, if I want to fire 5000 rounds of .50 BMG at the ground, trees, my foundation or whatever, noone’s going to get all butthurt about it.
Not that I’ve any .50 BMG or anything that fires it, but it’d be fine with the locals and LEOs if I did, did and did.
In my case, then, a shot at “the mole that was fixin’ t’ attack yer boot” would be perfectly acceptable to all parties — apart of course from the bad guy(s).
A warning shot shows that the gun is loaded and operable, that you’re comfortable with it and that you don’t mind a little noise or a visit from the constabulary. That can be a powerful inducement to them to set a spell and await your other guests, without all that darned paperwork.
Since I put in the gas and water lines, I think I can manage t’ miss ’em should push come to shove come to boom.
Your mileage might of course vary.
I have a Charter Arms Patriot .327 magnum with a 2 – 1/2 inch barrel (stainless) that I carry concealed. The only problem I have is that in the summer it rusts when I sweat more. The rest of the year it is ok, it is very accurate also. Will buy another.
I have a Long-“Safety device” within 3in of my bed frame, much preferred to a Hand-“Safety device” within 3in of my skull.
Just sayin’
I have guns to keep me safe from MDA
Can you live at your local police station? Because mine closes at 5:00pm. All I can say is Stupid.
So you’re tellin me a woman should give up her home personal property and privacy to live in a cramped shelter?? What planet is this girl from and how many times was she punched in the head that the above statement made sense??
I like Gary of Michigan and Tyler of Washington’s the most, but that’s part of my love for (a) takedowns, and (b) wooden stocks.
That said, I’m still disappointed nobody took my free suggestion for a Red Ryder Range Ruger, with a compass in the stock and that thing that tells time. So disappointed.
Further proof that attending college has nothing to do with being smart.
If I put my tin foil hat on, this seems like a convenient case to argue that guns, specifically EBRs are inherently dangerous regardless of operator.
Reading into the core of the issue, it is apparent that idiots are the true danger:
Tacticool motoLEO breaking policy and driving around with one in the pipe= idiot
Those who will fall for the generalization above=idiots
Legislators passing bills on firearms with no working knowledge whatsoever= idiots
And finally the electorate who keeps voting them in= idiots
CRUZ 2016?
Yes I would