By JC
I’m going to start this review with a few disclaimers. First, I’ve only been shooting about a year. My experience with rifles is relatively limited. I have fired AR15s, a Remington 700 built to full military specifications, and my PTR Industries 91F. The AR is truly a platform that can be fit to any individual. We’ll call it the “everyman’s rifle.” However, I did not particularly care for it. I know…blasphemy! I have an annoying habit of having to be different. The one thing that made me decide that it wasn’t what I wanted to own was the charging handle. I don’t particularly care for its location. With that being said . . .
History
To look into this 91F’s roots, we have to travel all the way back to WWII. The war saw the advent of the first assault rifle, the STG44. It gave rise to rifles like the AK47 and the HK G3. Less known is the STG45 built by Mauser. The 45 used a modified machine gun action known as a roller locking bolt. The war ended before the 45 could be put into production and the scientists responsible fled war-torn Germany and relocated to Spain via a (thankfully) short stay in France. Thus Centro de Estudios Técnicos de Materiales Especiales (Center for Technical Studies of Special Materials- CETME) was born. The first rifle manufactured similar to the G3 was the Modelo A rifle.
The Modelo A, here-on-out called the CETME, was originally designed to fire a low-powered 7.62x51mm cartridge. The Spanish firm sold the plans to Heckler and Koch after modifying the receiver to handle the pressure of firing a full-powered 7.62 NATO cartridge, hence the H&K G3. The G3 rifle is still used by the German military as the standard issue DMR. H&K eventually manufactured the H&K 91 to provide a civilian-legal semi-automatic version of the rifle.Eventually, H&K also sold manufacturing rights to a company named Precision Target Rifles (PTR Industries). Now that I’ve bored you with history, let’s get to the rifle.
Appearance
I love the lines of the 91F. The line of the barrel continues straight back to the uppermost portion of the stock. PTR’s fit and finish for these rifles is phenomenal. There’s no wiggle in the handgrip, stock, or mag well when a magazine is inserted. There are several variants offered for a number of price ranges. The cheaper models come with composite furniture on the handguard and stock. The composite material detracts from the appearance of the rifle in my opinion. It just looks and feels cheap even if they fit very well.
The 91F variant comes with a machined aluminum handguard instead of the plastic version. The aluminum guard is pre-drilled and ready to accept rails for any number of attachments at the 3, 6, and 9 positions. The PTR 91F comes with a navy type polymer trigger housing. This is another case where the factory specifications could benefit from using the H&K factory steel lowers to maintain the looks of an all metal design. The stock offered on this version is also of a polymer composition. Most of these pictures show the rifle with the wooden stock I added to it after market.
Ease of Use
The rifle is very simple to use. The charging handle is located on the left side over the hand guard and is easily reached while the weapon is shouldered. A solid pull on the lever will release the bolt and allow the handle to slide backwards to the locking position. To lock the handle in place, it is rotated upwards into a slot to hold the bolt in an open position. A solid slap with the heel of the hand will lower the handle and slide the bolt into battery forcefully.
Releasing the bolt slowly will cause a failure to feed and keep the bolt face from locking in properly. The safety lever and magazine release can be a little difficult to reach for somebody with small hands or short fingers. I personally have a little trouble reaching the magazine release, but I am willing to deal with it. There are also aftermarket options to change the mag release to a paddle style that is operated with the thumb of the hand changing to the next magazine.
The rifle is incredibly easy to disassemble for cleaning. There are two pins on the butt plate that hold the rifle together.
They pop out very similarly to the pins on an AR style rifle. The stocks, unless you buy certain variants, have holes in them to hold onto the pins so that they do not get misplaced in the field. After removal of the pins, the butt plate slides off and contains the entire recoil assembly. Not visible is the buffer tube hidden inside the stock.
After the butt plate is removed, the handgrip and trigger housing drop out from the rifle easily.
Once the trigger housing is out, a firm tug on the charging handle will unlock the rollers in the bolt carrier group and allow for the entire group to slide out of the back of the rifle.
Rotating the bolt face counter clockwise will unlock the bolt face from the carrier group and allow it to be removed, exposing the roller locking mechanism which contains the firing pin and spring. Rotation of the locking 180 degrees will cause it to separate from the carrier. There are a total of five pieces to the entire BCG.
Reassembly is simply the reverse. Insert the firing pin and locking mechanism into the carrier group and lock them in place by rotating them the same 180 degrees. The next part is the only time you will need a tool to field strip or reassemble the weapon. There is a lever on the carrier that holds the bolt face to the carrier group during normal operation.
When the bolt face is removed from the carrier, the lever is engaged in a downward position by a very stiff spring. A simple screwdriver inserted behind the bolt and twisted is enough to raise the lever up into a position that allows for reassembly. However, I was not a fan of jamming a screwdriver into anything that I just paid a grand for… There is a special assembly tool that compresses the spring without any possibility for damage to the rifle.
Once the BCG is completely assembled, the end of it is inserted back into the upper receiver and allowed to slide forward into battery. Then the trigger housing and stock can be reattached and locked in place with the breakdown pins.
Handling
The gun handles beautifully. Right out of the box, after my initial cleaning and lubricating, there hasn’t been a single failure to fire or failure to feed. The rifle is a heavy one. My model, after attaching the wooden stock, comes in at just over ten pounds. The rifle design also causes it to be a little front heavy. With a plastic hand guard, I’m sure it would be a little more balanced. I know that my rifle balanced out a little after the addition of the solid walnut stock. My favorite feature of the rifle is the charging handle. You kind of feel like a badass when you slap the handle down to put a round into battery.
A number of other reviews for the PTR rifles complain of the triggers being squishy with unpredictable breaking points. They also normally include instructions on how to disassemble the trigger pack and file down the contact points to make it operate better. These are also normally reviews for the GI model. I don’t know if that made a difference or not, but the trigger in my 91F is anything but squishy. There is a very minimal take up before a clean, crisp break. I’ve asked numerous people who have handled it for their opinions just to make sure I wasn’t affecting my experience with hopes and dreams for a high quality product. So far, everybody has agreed with me, even the local FFLs.
The rifle is chambered in .308 which can be expensive to shoot and packs a lot more punch than a 5.56 cartridge. However, the felt recoil is not uncomfortable. During the rifle’s initial break-in period, I fired only 40 rounds through it and had some minor surface tissue damage. There was a little bruising that dissipated in a few days without any soreness. The second time I took the rifle out. I made sure that I was choking up on it properly and obtaining a strong shoulder weld with the stock. I put near 100 rounds through it on day two without any bruising or soreness to show for it.
The rifle would benefit from a foregrip or bipod to increase the ease of use. I plan on adding and AFG near the proximal end of the hand guard. I also plan on buying a heavy buffer for it to decrease the felt recoil even more. The reduced recoil is not to make it more comfortable, but to allow for faster follow-up shots.
My least favorite feature is the fact that the bolt doesn’t lock open after expending the magazine. The design of the roller lock system coupled with the 91F’s charging handle doesn’t allow for a bolt catch. The charging handle would have to reciprocate and be forced into the upwards rotation that keeps the bolt open.
Reasons for Use
As I mentioned earlier, the G3 is still the DMR for the German military. It will always be more accurate than the operator. These style rifles are often used for competition purposes. I’m not much into competition shooting yet, so I doubt I’ll use mine in that regard. I do plan on trying to get it out for some hunting this coming season. I have asked around and found a few people that have used or seen the HK91 rifle used for hunting successfully. The cartridge surely has the required power. (Target photo is from standing position 50 yards out.)
Reliability
This rifle and I have seen about 300 rounds of use together. It has never failed to eject or feed. I have fed it the cheapest ammo that I can get my hands on. Our local Academy sells 20-round boxes of steel cased ammo for 13 bucks a pop. The manual that comes with the rifle suggests using steel-cased ammo as well as brass. It also suggests that you don’t reload brass that has been run through the 91F. The casings are often bent. Some of them are often bent to extremes with the neck of the casing almost pinched completely shut. It’s the nature of the ejection system. The casing is launched against the front of the ejection port, and the force slings it forward to throw the shells in the 1-2 o’clock position. This unique ejection style makes the rifle ideal for righties and lefties though. The shell is never tossed backwards and will always be clear of the operator. My friend even mentioned that I will have to stand on the left when SHTF.
Specifications:
Caliber: .308 or 7.62 NATO
Action: Delayed blowback roller lock system
Overall Length: 40.5″
Weight: 9.5 lbs.
Barrel: Match grade bull barrel
Magazine: 20 round
MSRP: $1,245.00
Ratings (out of five stars):
Accuracy: * * * *
I can’t justify more than 4 stars right now since I haven’t been able to bench the rifle for extreme accuracy testing. I have taken it out to 100 yards with a man-sized steel silhouette and not missed a shot.
Reliability: * * * * *
The rifle gathers all 5 stars here. This firearm was designed to be run in the most extreme conditions on the planet and still sees heavy military use throughout the world. The delayed roller lock system is known for its ability to ignore dirt and sand without any problems. It chews through steel and brass alike without concern.
Ergonomics/Handling: * * * 1/2
The fact that it’s front heavy makes it slightly harder to hold on target for extended periods of time without assuming a one knee shooter’s stance to prop an elbow on. The rifle is not intended for small people either.
Fit and Finish: * * * * *
The rifle is assembled with absolutely zero wobble in it anywhere. Even the cheap feeling plastic stock didn’t rattle in the back plate. The black finish from PTR is impeccable too.
Aesthetics: * * * * *
Purely subjective of course, but I love the lines of the rifle. To me, it is such an iconic piece of history. The STG44 is number one on my wish list and the 91F evokes its image. The number of compliments I have received on it are one of the reasons I chose this rifle as my first. It’s an eye-catcher at the range for the simple fact that it’s not an AR or AK.
Customization: * * * * 1/2
I’m not just exaggerating this rating. The H&K parts store has a little something for everybody. The available rail systems allow for the attachment of almost anything that an AR can accept with the exception of mag well and receiver accessories. The half a star lost is due to the sights not being changeable. The front post can be changed out for something with night sights, but the rear sight is welded on with only adjustments for elevation and windage. You can even buy a butt plate with an AR style buffer on it to attach AR stocks.
Overall: * * * * 1/2
Even with the slightly lower ergonomic rating that I gave it, I couldn’t be a whole lot happier with this rifle. Like most firearms, this may not be made for everybody, but it is exactly what I thought it would be.
Great looking rifle and superb review, thanks!
The HK is a fine example of a last-generation battle rifle. I’ve owned a couple, including an original HK91. They certainly look the part, and when used with iron sights have typical battle rifle accuracy (2-4moa). Mags are cheap and plentiful, and I agree that the lines are great.
It’s fairly obvious that you’re new to rifles though. The HK design with it’s roller-locked blowback design kicks like a bay steer, compared to a gas gun like the FN-FAL or M14/M1A. Preferences aside, since it’s a blowback gun, the recoil spring is way stout, which means that you need to have Herculean strength to operate the action with that out-in-left field charging handle (not a big fan of that, myself). And of course the fluted chamber and violent extraction cycle is noteworthy for tearing up brass – you can still reload it (contrary to some reports) but it doesn’t last as long.
Also – the sheet metal receiver doesn’t lend itself to mounting optics. I tried the SWAN claw mount, designed for the rifle. Unfortunately, you constantly fight a balance between adjusting the mount to be tight enough to keep a scope from dancing around, without distorting the bent sheet metal to wich it clamps. If you go too tight on the claw mount, you’ll succeed in bending the receiver in to the point where the bolt carrier either rubs it as it whizzes by, or just jams up solid. DAMHIK.
In short – nice review of an obviously favorite firearm. But a hint for future efforts – try to tone down the fanboy stance a bit. The ratings are inflated across the board – nice rifle, yes, but 4 1/2 stars for customization? You’re extremely limited in selection for trigger pack replacements, scope mounts, sight replacements, and furniture. If an AR might be considered 5 stars, realistically, the HK would be around 2 or 3, below the AK and even the SKS. And, how can you claim an accuracy standard of 4 stars when you haven’t even bench rested it, or taken it out to a distance longer than 100 yards? Hitting a metal silhouette at 100 rates a 1, maybe – heck, the average kid with a Daisy can accomplish that.
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I agree, poor review. You hit all the main points.
I still want the rifle, but be honest with the review.
Me too. But when did PTR start using the top rail on the 91 F model? Or was his a gunsmith add-on?
I’d much prefer the 91 F with its bull barrel and type III hardcoat anodizing over the A3R an its tapered HK profile barrel and powdercoat finish if they would just add the top rail on it.
Everything is subjective I suppose…
Recoil: I actually experience less of a recoil impulse with my 91SC than I did with either of my FALs. Standard buffer BTW. PRS stock softens it further
Scope: 91SC integrates scope rail, as do several other PTR models. Though I absolutely agree; without that rail mounting optics is a giant PITA
Customization: though nothing comes close to the AR’s Boy-Barbie status (what could?), http://robertrtg.com/ is a wonderful playground of switcheroo options. Pretty much everything ever manufactured for the G3 platform. Can personally recommend the AR grip Flemming full lower, among about a million other things they were kind enough to package and send.
Fully admit to G3/91/PTR fanboy status. Proudly. I do agree the ratings seem somewhat high, if submitted as a comparison and not a personal measure. Would be interesting to see this review revisited, and more reviews from this author, in a year or two after trigger time behind other platforms.
I like RobertRTG, he has some nice options at a more affordable price than HKpartsnet sells for. The Fleming metal lower with AR15 grip also caught my eye. It looks nice
G3/91s have far more aftermarket support and parts than SKSs, I agree with what you are trying to say about the review, but that right there is just silly and wrong. SKSs don’t have a whole lot of aftermarket support, mostly just shitty scope mounts and ugly stocks.
Upside, ptr put a pic rail topside so you dont need the hk claw mount for scopes
yea, that is certainly a selling point for the PTRs and I picked up one in my panic buying the afternoon Obama announced the proposed bans.
Though I guess I got lucky with my CAI Cetme and original mount, it has been rock solid. I know there were many CETMEs from CAI that had far worse issues than claws bending receivers 😉
You don’t need a tool to get the bolt to unlock. Rotate it 45 degrees and pull it away from the carrier slightly, then rotate back. Rollers are now unlocked. Caution: may require German infantryman hand strength.
It helps to press in on the bolt catch lever with the supporting hand, kind of wrap your hand around it with the finger tips on the lever and squeeze.
I’ve looked at this rifle and seriously considered getting one as its as close to a real G3 as most of us will ever come. For me, the only negatives are the weight (I’m comparing it to the feather-light SCAR 17-S) and the fact that you can’t reload the brass. On the other hand, you can’t beat the price (a hair under $1K for a robust .308). Nicely done review!
I don’t know where you get your “facts”, but I’ve been reloading for my HK91 since 1981. Ejection port case buffer…look it up.
Nice review…I do love my PTR91F. My biggest gripes are: 1) It’s a very heavy (and front heavy) beast. 2) Finicky with certain types of ammo (that won’t feed/cycle), 3) Destroys cases – no reloading old brass, 4) sometimes a PITB to reassemble bolt assembly (there is an easy way to do it without tools, unlike the instructions above).
Other than this, it’s “battlefield accurate”…built like a tank…looks pretty cool/gorgeous…is somewhat customizable…mags are crazy cheap…and overall it’s just downright cool (compared to all of the normal AR platforms you see out there).
Every time I have it at the range, guys are over talking to me about it.
Overall, it’s a nice rifle for the price IMO.
If you think the standard PTR91’s are nice for the price, you should look at the PTR MSR. http://556operateitfagget.tumblr.com/post/58272499149/the-ptr-msr-sub-moa-for-sub-1-200-the-ptr-msr
I have the GI special edition with classic wood. It love the rifle and sold a Saiga 308 and kept this one. I shot a 1.5″ group at 100 yards using my bag as a rest. I only shoot steel cased ammo in it right now. Walmart has tula for under $10 per box. Plus 3 dollar mags are nice. I also bought an original G3 leather sling to complete the package. My rifle only dings the cases occasionally. Most could be reloaded.
Thanks for the review. Always been interested in the G3 but they’re simply not worth the money to me. Good rifles though.
Not for small people? Heh. Well, you know the Germans.
I do have to agree with a previous commenter that for a review it does lack a certain objectivity. Customization is nowhere near approaching an AR-15. I’ve seen the options for the 91 series rifles and they are what I would consider good, not great. Certainly better than the rifle I own. Also, there is a certain disconnect for rating it 5 stars on fit and finish but talking about how the plastic looks cheap. Especially on a rifle that kicks out over a grand in cost. I get that you love the rifle and I certainly gush over some of my firearms but I do try to be realistic about some areas where they fall short.
I like you. I am a fanboy as well. These designs have a special place in my heart, even after owning dozens of other rifles.
A Cetme was my first modern (non-C&R) battle rifle and I have been in love ever since. I buy them just because. There is something extremely satisfying of the delayed blowback roller action that is only topped by the Garand Ping.
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I couldn’t stop at the 308 rifles, now any other delayed roller action is always on the shopping list.
I did have the pleasure of breaking in a C93 with a FA trigger pack. Man, that just ruins you forever and you suddenly find it easy justifying +$20k or a dremel and good lawyer (j/k. DO NOT DO THAT!!!)
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I hope you had the chance to get SA battlepacks when they were still cheap.
I did end up going tacticool with one Cetme.
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Magpul PRS-2 adjustable stock (manventureoutpost had a decent price, the original stock was always too short for me anyway) I tried to make it fit the Cetme endplate but went with a g3 endplate in the end.
G3 recoil spring, buffer and endplate. (had to dremel the endplate’s bottom weld seam to make it a bit thinner and square out the bent lip of the trigger pack for a proper fit. I could have modified just one or the other but decided to remove a little of both instead.)
UTG forearm*
MFI Low Profile Scope mount (had to take about 0.75 mm of the clamps)
Millett 1-4×24 illuminated scope
Harris bipod
*(While the UTG forearm is heavier than some of the higherend models, the weight seems to balance the rifle better.)
Very thorough review. Well done!
Awesome review! The G3 pattern has always been my favorite post-WWII battle rifle. I’ve been buying G3 accessories over the years and plan on picking up a PTR-91 as a “welcome to America” gun once I take residence in a 2nd-Amendment friendly state. Yeah I know there are NJ compliant models, but they’re expensive and so are 5 round mags.
You can get a port buffer to reduce dinging. That way you can reload the brass.
To increase accuracy try using a diopter sight. Rear aperture, globe front.
With the fluted chamber, it leaves burn marks down the sides of the brass. I’ve left mine in a tumbler a whole weekend to no avail. Had to scrap the brass.
I try to shoot berdan primed out of mine so I don’t worry about it.
Depends… many people reload for them without issue. Search around on the internet.
Maybe PTRs are getting better? I’ve read a number of reviews and complaints from earlier PTR owners citing some issues. I’m fortunate enough to have a Springfield Armory version made in Greece before the importation was outlawed (but not fortunate enough to have a German-made HK91). 😀
PTR makes quality firearms, and they now make them in South Carolina. PTR evacuated from Connecticut in the aftermath of Malloy’s gun grab. Smart move, good company, nice rifle.
They seem nice. I am tempted by the version that uses AK mags and ammo.
Great review. Made me want to buy one.
Then I checked the MD ban list…
You should move back to the United States.
Who makes that tool for the bolt? I need one of those!
Good review. Especially for a noob. I’ve only been shooting about 3 years & I wouldn’t deem to write a review. Good luck in the future.
The STG-44 wasn’t the first assault rifle. It was the first one to gain wide spread use, but there were a good bit that were designed and even saw combat use well before the STG-44.
You lost me discussing the tool for reassembling the bolt. While the HK bolt/bolt carrier is not the easiest thing in the world to get apart and back together, it can be done without tools using only your hands.
Nice review, Dan.
Putting this on my list for future look as a sturdy proven reliable battle rifle that can do HD, big predator control, and bag a wild pig or two rooting out in the vegetable patch, where your basic plastic poodle gun might come up short.
I also appreciate the comments from more knowledgeable posters, even if they were a teensy bit harsh, given that you had fully disclosed your bias, and I dont mind that your experience was closer to mine – noob-ish.
Good review – many thanks for taking the time & effort…
I’ve heard quite a few good things about the PTR “G3’s”. They are sold at a decent price point too.
So why can’t PTR sell “MP5’s” at a decent price point too? What I would give for a solid MP5 for around a grand with a factory like PTR backing up the work!
I like to play the game of stepping off the distance to the farthest-flung brass. It’s usually 12-15 yards away at 1:30-2:00. My casings (brass or steel) are easily identifiable by their distinctive striped decoration.
Friends say its recoil impression is different from a bolt .308 or any other semi .308 action (e.g. M1A) – more spread out rather than a single sharp impulse.
I chose the A3S model for its rail, then got some wooden furniture ($20 from http://robertrtg.com) and refinished it with Tung oil. I love the classy look, and the feel and smell of un-varnished oiled wood. Also added the PCS heavy buffer to further decrease the felt recoil. You’ll need to use a 20mm spade bit to hog out the stock to fit that buffer’s slightly larger diameter and length.
It’s invariably the only one like it at a range full of ARs, and always attracts attention. My son and I maintain our fleet of German cars and motorcycles, and this rifle fits right in. You can definitely recognize that Teutonic mechanical design philosophy.
The hk91 (or ptr) is the br darth vader would pick.
>> The Modelo A, here-on-out called the CETME, was originally designed to fire a low-powered 7.62x51mm cartridge.
To the best of my knowledge, this is a myth. Or rather, the low-powered Spanish 7.62x51mm cartridge did exist, but it was meant to be used for training, and the rifles were always designed to be able to use the full-power cartridge just as well from day one.
(This also goes for FR-7 and FR-8. Speaking of which, someone should do a review of those, just for their Frankenstein nature.)
I am really tempted to pick up one of these to compliment my AR and my bolt gun (both left handed models). Since I’m a lefty I am concerned about being able to attain a reasonable level of speed and proficiency in a tactical/SHTF scenario where time really matters. Since the sling setup is also not friendly to the lefty, I’d need to come up with an alternative there as well. If anybody has any perspective on these issues, please share.
There seems to be this illusion that the HK-91 has a stout recoil, this has never been the case with mine, it’s the items I added that compensates for no felt recoil. For instance PWS has a flash hider / compensator, a muzzle device to eliminate 30% of the recoil. I placed an HK-21 recoil pad on the stock, which has more cushion for the shoulder, eliminating the perceived kick. The charging handle was way to small, so I opted for a larger one, giving me the foundation to grasp and the charging became easier to manipulate with the rifle. Granted even though my fingers are long enough to release the magazine, its way to cumbersome and engineers need to find a better way! Or the paddle release should be allowed, without interference from the government…
Waah, waah, waaah! I have a SA M1A and while it feels abit more comfortable to shoot, it is a best a 2-4 moa gun itsself!!! There’s a REASON THE HK-91 DESIGN SOLDIERS ON while the M-14 nearly went the way of the DoDo bird- the teutonic bastard is a tough design , made for men at war!
I first learned to shoot from my hardassed grandfather- a korean war vet who served in the 24th Infantry, our nations LAST segregated combat unit.
His unit fought honorably , but typical of the times, were ridiculed by the typical racist mindset of the era.
Until the day he died, he was a hard bitter man- but he was straight forward, and honest, and he taught me to put rounds down range with his surplus M1 garand.
That old rifle had seen better days and it “kicked like a mule” to a 14 yr old like me at the time. Thinking back 30 yrs, I remember the photos of my grandfather in uniform, and in 1951 he was barely larger at 20 than I was at 14! Yet he served with a full scale bat le rifle for 8 yrs, leaving service in 1958.
I say this cause I find it amazing that all these “he man” the AR -15/M-16 is a “toy” types here , actually complain about a very GOOD copy of
A fine german made weapon! If half starved boy soldiers in west africa can run poorly maintained decades old HK91s, I am certain overfed, beer guzzling 6 foot tall North American MEN can stand the little extra “ommph” of the HK-91 and its PTR clone!
I bought one amd enjoy it- it isnt as nostolgic as my grandads Garand or my safe queen 44in long M1A blunderbuss, but its tough, just as accurate up to 300 yds I ‘ ve shot as my M-1A , and compared to my buddies DSA FAL, it shoots better groups , and has similar felt recoil!
I paid a fair $1,200.00( with tax and dros- roughly what I paid for my BCM middy AR) and 375.00 LESS than my M1A and 400.00 less than my buddies “now” scoped FAL- same friend got TIRED of being OUT shot by my M1A and PTR 91….
Oh, and my PTR-91 came with a centered upper reciever 1913 rail for easier mounting of commercially available mounts and scope, so this oft heard ” you need a claw mount” stuff is just jazz; I have zero’d a leopold 3-9x 40 scope to a cheapo Primary Arms Micro RDS( which is better made and tougher than I expected! Cudos Marshall at PA!!)- all worked and helped me knock down 5 shot groups with privi partizan ammo to 1.7 ” at 100 yds….” battle rifle accuracy”
Dear Dan Zimmerman:
I found your article when I was researching this model prior to purchase. I learned next to nothing worth knowing from it. And you are the Managing Editor?
Here’s some tough love for you, Pajama Boy. Stop here if your are the sensitive type.
Why is a guy who has only been shooting for about a year with limited rifle experience writing a gun review? On a rifle, no less! What base of reference or experience have you acquired that would enlighten the reader? At the bare minimum, readers want to know what size the five round groups are at 100 yards with several different brands of ammo.
Also, man up!! Getting kind of tired of the girlie man routine that seems so prevalent today. “Minor tissue damage”? Sheesh! I feel like dropping you off at my dad’s house for a week to toughen you up. Join the military or a damn gym at least so then we won’t have to hear how an infantryman’s weapon is too front heavy for you. Offhand shooters actually like a front heavy rifle because it “hangs” better.
I hereby sentence you to 100 rounds of the 12 Gauge Remington Buckhammer slug fired out of an H&R single shot in 30 minutes or less! Locate an ARMY or MARINE veteran to proofread your copy (and check for whimpering) and stop letting your mommy check it for errors. Then you might stop embarrassing yourself. You sound like you watch soccer on tv for crissakes!
Any of you guys had to reassemble an H&K 91 bolt?
It is kind of funky but once you do it a few times you will get the hang of it and it is no issue. Look up a video on Youtube, disassembling the PTR is not as hard as people make it out to be.