“The Ohio Highway Patrol is spending more than $600,000 [ED: $645k] to replace its shotguns because the old ones are too long to fit in the front seat of the Dodge Chargers the state bought to replace Ford Crown Victoria cruisers, the law-enforcement staple that is no longer manufactured,” mydaytondailynews.com reports. “The new guns — Remington 870’s with 14-inch barrels — can be mounted upright in the front seat of a new cruiser, while the older 20-inch Remingtons would only fit in the trunk.” Hey at least they’re sticking with shotguns. “We’ve had shotguns for years,” the OHP spokesperson said. “It’s an effective weapon. It’s a reliable weapon.” Yes but—unplanned obsolescence. “Troopers also are being trained to use rifles in preparation for a statewide rollout of those weapons.” I don’t supposed anyone told the OHP they can’t sell those short-barreled shotguns into the civilian market. Your tax money hard at work.
We’re surprised a leftist tyrant is a hypocrite also? The entire leftist ideology is built on contradiction and hypocrisy.
I agree with the Philadelphia Police Commissioner that parents should not buy toy guns that look like (are replicas) of real guns. I agree with him that parents should buy toy guns that are painted bright colors and do not otherwise too closely resemble real guns. He is correct that if confronted with a toy gun that looks real you cannot quickly determine if it is real or not. That uncertainty can lead to someone from a cop to a private citizen, fearing for their life, to use lethal force upon the child. It is weird to me that this point would be debated by adults.
For at least some people, a fear is the other side of a wish.
If you want a show about how guns are made email the Science Channels How It’s Made. They’re still going keep details from you though.
Paint that car black and it would be an ideal car for an update to a Mad Max film based in the American Heartland. How much did the fleet of new cars cost the taxpayer and are they really needed?
Don’t issue the cops new guns. Issue them new saws. Save about $600K. For the children.
In Philly no less? They boy is going to get shot, probably by a cop. It won’t be the kid’s fault because he’s a kid and doesn’t know better and the fact he’s doing this at all indicates strongly he has deficient parent(s). It will be his parent(s)’ fault for being idiots and not raising him (properly, at all, etc). The media will blame the toy gun and gun culture. The parent(s) will blame the police. The community will blame guns and us rural sportsman. No one will blame “the guys” in the neighborhood that the kid is emulating. Action movie stars will say “enough” on TV. They’ll put flowers and stuffed animals out on the street corner. Darwin will rest peacefully in his grave. The parenting-deficient kid will no longer grow up emulating “the guys” and one day be recruited to be one of them and contribute to the gang violence in the city. Everyone will feel uneasy.
New cars, new guns, plenty of ammo, gee what budget crises?
Can’t stand that show
Hey did anyone tell Ohio H.P. all they had to do was replace the 20 inch barreled with 14 inch and got after market folding stocks for half the cost…. We the tax payer got taken again.. This is why Amerika is not going to make it …. I know what you can do for your shotguns , i do my own gun smith work , Why can’t the so called pro’s?????
“Obviously you and I know I can’t do anything to stop you. I hope you realize what this is going to do to all those kids.”
Yes, it’s going to give them the impression that we live in a free society where adults should be responsible for their own safety and livelihood. God forbid. Our governmental overlords sure don’t want that message being taught.
Even better, the kids will notice the difference between the propaganda and the actions of law abiding adults carrying in their schools.
Abortion is not the bedroom. Quite frankly I am amazed when I read gun blogs that, at least in the comment sections, I see so much stupid reasoning and haste characterizations.
There is certainly an out-of-touchness with reason when it comes to statements like “The GOP should stop being anti-abortion”. Really? Quite frankly even most (educated) pro-aborts recognize the humanity of the baby in the womb. But leave that aside. Let us say that I and other conservatives are wrong. We still sincerely believe that the fetus is a human person, and killing it is murder. If I were willing to be pro-choice just to hold office I am saying screw what is right, I just want power.
Really? You libertarianazi’s want that? A hunter sees a deer in the distance. It isn’t clear. He thinks it may be a man, the guy next to him says, no its a deer, take the shot. Were he to take the shot, he would be morally (though not legally) guilty of murder, because what he could see seemed like it could be a man and he was willing to kill. Without arguing for the truth of the pro-life movement, and even (arguendo) positing that the fetus was not a human person, the mere fact that they believe it to be so means that you should be outraged if they adopted a pro-choice position.
Personally opposed, but pro-choice merely means, I don’t give a s#!% about human life. I want to sound like I do.
I can respect to a degree a person who honestly believes and acts for something that is wrong. But to say one thing and do another? No.
Then again, we have commentators here who have favored eugenics (murdering a person for a handicap/genetic defect is not a mercy you bastard). As someone whom the doctors wanted to murder in the womb for being handicapped, and who knows many instances of false positives on DNA tests that some ignorant commentator here puts faith in, and doesn’t care even if it really is positive, because he knows the children who were not aborted when doctors urged abortion. How dare anyone say what life is worth living and which isn’t? This is digusting. And such a person cannot honestly have a coherent basis in believing in any rights, let alone gun rights…sieg heil and all that is what it smacks of.
I hate these guys. If I want drama, I’ll go to Whataburger and watch them try to assemble a cheeseburger.
The Ford Crown Vic’s been in production in one form or another since the mid 1980s.To put it in perspective, the Bren Ten was still in production when the Crown Vic first rolled off the line.Its time for a change,and I don’t begrudge public agencies from buying new hardware as needed.
If a LE agency buys a fleet of APCs that’s when I’ll call BS, but patrol cars are a reasonable expense.
I’m sorry for those hurt and dead in the bombings and the officer hurt an dead. Why haven’t we seen the video of these two placing the bomb are we waiting for may 30th( the gov hasn’t seen it but says it chilling). What makes these two diffrent then aurora, newtown, chardon, columbine(bombs also) or any other murder, why is terrorist only applyed to them, aren’t they all terrorist. Last question is why doesn’t anyone admit the lockdown was completley bullshit for the simple fact it did nothing.
Very good points Robert. I have never given thought to the blood and guts aspect of a DGU. Its somewhat like passing a motor vehicle wreck. You just have to look………
When I was a little kid it was normal for toy guns to look like real guns at first glance. Making them all brightly colored, obvious toys didn’t start to happen until the 1980s, when the increasing unaccountability and militarization of cops led to several incidents of them murdering small children and then getting away with it by screaming “officer safety.”
…and when they receive their M4’s in two weeks all the shotguns will be relegated to the the trunk…
Sons of Guns is still on TV?
Can’t blame the kid…he is African American. It is the unwritten rule of mass media. Can not say anything bad about anybody black unless they are a rapper. If you do, you are racist. But, if a Hispanic shots a black kid…he is suddenly white (the shooter). There you have it.
…and Mrs. Ramsankar never had any trouble on the bus ever again.
Never could get through more than 5 or 10 minutes of that BS for the same reasons I don’t watch any “reality” TV (you want reality with an unknown outcome? watch baseball). The only bright side to the show still being on is that I’m sure it really rubs some antis the wrong way that a show that is all about guns is on TV somewhere and there is little they can do about it… For me, I’ll stick to Military History and the military channel in order to see the past, present, and future of real world guns…
And another item here , are the old shotguns going to be traded in or sold to the public, same with guns taken from bad guys , Millions of dollars are lost for the tax payer because police dept.s destroy good guns that could be turned into public money ?? WHY ???
It’s clear that the abortion issue is a complex one. But much of the complexity goes away when you remove the rent-seeking aspect of it – that is expecting someone else to pay for it. Even if the law grants a person a right to an abortion, that should not grant a right to expect someone else to pay for it.
Conversely, if someone strongly objects to abortion, I respect that. If that person wants to actively oppose abortion, then they should engage in the dialog and convince people to not have them. They should not be required by an amoral state to financially support that activity. But again, there should be no expectation of employing the state to force your will upon another person.
I believe that the government’s involvement should be carefully neutral. It’s not ,of course. Politicians across the spectrum engage both their supporters and detractors in a carefully orchestrated dance to maximize their own financial benefit.
Wishful thinking from a fascist NY PIG. Go eat a turd jerk.
Shows the fascist mindset of Adolf Obama….. He wants to use abortion to control the population He likes women having sex w/o consequences, he wants the public high on dope and sex so he can shred the Constitution. The Guy is a fascist Its no surprise that he want things one way and for a other issue another. Want proof look a t Mussolini in Italy in the 30s.
Just ask Barak. I’m sure he’ll have some good pointers for you. He does it all the time right?
Part of the fascist mentality to scar kids away from guns and by brainwashing in school by adult hood make a complete generation of antigun fascist. This is fault of the parents for not watching the kids and also not teaching morality to them. Punish both kids and parents for this. What do you think RALPH? and Gtfoxy???
“Shiny turd version”
“Estrogen pill popping guy in the pretty dress”
LOL, he has a way with the English language, I like it.
A friend of mine posted this article on Facebook. Here was my response to her:
I’ll go ahead and let the New York Times (who editorially supports gun control) and Senator Gillibrand (D-N.Y. currently proposing new gun restrictions) make the case for me.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/26/us/politics/senators-quietly-seek-a-new-path-on-gun-control.html?hp&_r=0
By their own admission, their policies are purely symbolic feel-good measures that will do absolutely nothing to curb gun violence. They, like mr Cassidy, are simply driven by a natural desire to “do something”, even if that something actually does nothing.
Never mind that violent crime has been on a steady decline since the early ’90s. Never mind that rifles of any kind are only used in around 3% of gun-related crimes. Never mind that there’s no functional difference between a standard hunting rifle and the rifles which would be banned under an “assault weapons” ban. Never mind that a recent survey of more than 15,000 police officers showed that “the majority of officers polled oppose the theories brought forth by gun-control advocates…” (http://tinyurl.com/d9t58nx)
It’s not like nothing should be done. It’s just that stupid things shouldn’t be done.
And on that note, should we even consider the inanity of an author who refuses to be deterred by the lack of guns in this latest tragedy and proceeds to utilize it to further the cause anyway? I think not.
Eloquent and wise. Thank you sir.
Well, the Walking Dead is kind of a gun show, at least there’s that.
oh that’s baloney. remember “LOST”? it was in love with guns!
I only wish ‘d seen more of his terrific shooting. Loved the voice, the style, everything. RIP
All guns seized by the local, state and federal cops that are not returned to their rightful owners and are legal for citizen use should be turned over to contract ffl’s and sold off. The proceeds would help budgets and the guns would go to good homes.
No, by all means buy your kids realistic toy guns. We’re overpopulated enough as it is, and these toys a great way to weed out the people society can afford to lose.
It sounds cruel, I know, but let’s face it: If some kid thinks it’s a good idea to point realistic-looking fake guns at the po-po, he probably isn’t going to be the one that grows up to discover the cure for cancer.
Amen total logic and common sense from Mr Noir I like hearing him as much as possible.
A front seat shoot out with a terrorist that had already caused havoc and death that day wouldn’t be the best tactical choice. Assuming Danny had a pistol how many shots would it have taken to shut the terrorist down? And how many shots would the terrorist have gotten off in return? The terrs scrawny younger brother survived how many hits from how many different weapons?
Danny got clear and out of the line of fire, saving his own life. Having a gun would have given him one more option but as it turns out he did the right thing.
I absolutely believe that Danny and the rest of us should be armed at all times. I see no valid reason not to be. But don’t let the gun think for you.
As I have said many times before…you can’t buyback that which never owned.
We’ve seen how corporations have spent years and millions to create absolutely secure software and video protection methods, only to see groups of programmers break these protection routines in days, weeks, or a few months.
I’ll bet a smart gun lock could be broken in even less time either by patching some connections (probably with a pencil line in the same way that would unlock the multipliers on Socket A AMD Athlon CPUs), removing the module, or substituting some parts.
When they are universally accepted by military and LEOs, then I’ll pay attention.
+1 on non-electronic safes for me. Mine are simple key locks and keys are with me at all times.
“AR-15s can fire up to forty-five rounds a minute”
/facepalm
I got to see my next wife.
A Solothurn……
Didn’t anyone notice…this NEWS channel CANNOT be anti-gun because they are K-G-U-N……. they should change their call letters at once.
How can libtards actually watch a station with GUN in its name?
See where this has been thoroughly ripped apart a dozen ways
http://armsandthelaw.com/archives/2013/04/very_strange_ny.php
Shades of Jayson Blair
Of course, the author admits using a pharmacopeia of psychoactive drugs, so have pity on him; he might actually believe this fantasy.
I LIKE this, probably more than I should.
A truly beautiful article.
She was just trying to CLEAN it & it WENT OFF!!!
I totally agree with SGC, tired of the cop haters and their bogus stories and “facts” ! That said, try idling any car in the median strip for 45 minutes when suddenly some jerk blows by you at 100MPH, can anyone hazard a guess just how fast he’s got to go to catch the violator, (who probably has a mile lead on the Trooper already). So the police cars been idling for 35,45 or 55 minutes and that engine is hotter than heck. Now floor it to catch up to the stolen car/bank robber/Joe the Plumber,make that Crown Vic run hot and as fast as it can run (in the case of the Crown Vic a disappointing; 125,maybe 130 down hill) ! At least the Chargers can catch up to these bozo’s ! However be it a Ford or Dodge that intense heat will tax that car, it’s parts,belts,etc. to the limit ! When the Charger catches up, God only knows what the Trooper faces, maybe a nice guy trying out his own Charger, or perhaps some whacked out dude with a gun, who just shot some poor clerk @ a gas station. and won’t hesitate to shoot the Trooper…no one knows for sure. And cops are human too,they want to go home in one piece to their wives and kids. OSP made a good move when they put their rifles up front,since any idiot can walk into Wal-Mart and buy an AK. The cops , Troopers should be equipped well, and that includes equal or superior firepower and a police car, like a Charger, that will catch these speeding/tailgating nut jobs that ruin everything for us. And yes”,
often they do have to put the hammer down” and get there right NOW, since so many people stop at an auto accident and just gawk…waiting for that Trooper/Cop/Sheriff and/or medic to stop the bleeding when an artery is severed and bleeding like a stuck pig!! I often wondered just how these gawker” s live with themselves, how they sleep at night,when they come upon an accident and simply stand there, playing “pocket pool” and don’t even try to stop the bleeding ! Amazing, and a sad example of the “me generation”,,,,then they have the nerve to complain how long it took the 1st responders to arrive. I guess it’s time to start teaching our kids the meaning of empathy and concern for their fellow man in High School!