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Well, I’m certainly not the most trained individual with a gun, and I’m sure there are millions of people who are better shots than I. But when I go to church in a few hours I will be carrying. My odds of shooting a mass murderer may not be great, but those odds are infinitely better than relying on the goodness of an evil man’s heart.
I like that neomag that he mentioned. I’m thinking about picking one of those up myself. I’ve been trying to find a mag carrier that doesn’t suck and that looks like it really fits the bill.
Most CCW holders are better trained than the police in the use of their weapon… But don’t let me stop your narrative please continue blathering on about something you know nothing about. I’ll even make you a deal pastor, you stick to talking about God and salvation and I’ll stick to what I know.
This is exactly why I don’t do organized religion of any kind, there’s always one of these amongst them. Some tree hugger that totally ignores the Old Testament, Psalms, and Revelation while preaching only the sunshine and rainbows parts of the New Testament.
Sorry there boss but God and Jesus both said they’re cool with me carrying to defend myself against evil and they never said to disarm before I enter the church so I won’t.
Before anyone else starts quoting the peace and love crap in The Bible, yes peace, faith, hope, and love are all great things our Creator endowed to us and yes we should strive to maintain peace in our lives, faith in our God,
Hope that things will get better, and love for all people but that doesn’t mean I cannot and should not prepare to violently defend my family, my life, or my country should the need arise.
“Until there is no enemy but peace Amen.”- Rifleman’s Creed
“Praise be to the Lord my Rock, who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle” Psalm 144:1
And that’s why you won’t know till it is needed pastor.
Asking a question is one thing, the rest is BS!
Ok let me see if I got this right. Hot blonde college student does a finger gun to another passenger and TSA decides to screen her. Sounds like they were being c@ck blockers.
If I’m wandering through an airport and some hot blonde gives me the finger gun I might just think I’m gonna get lucky with her… Then MRSATFAgentBob hits me with the cast iron skillet she keeps in her purse and I wake up 3 days later in the ICU and can’t remember my name. Guess the blonde was so dang good it put me in a coma or maybe it was the skillet. I like to think it was the blonde. Wait what was I talking about?
Are ministers supposed to be intelligent or just comforting cheerleaders?
Many churches didn’t discuss it. They just implemented it.
I got a lovely little sermon for this potato pastor.
People often say there’s no reason for guns to exist, they say guns are an affront unto the Lord and that they are Satan’s own invention. Well, I’m here with a much different message. You see God works in mysterious ways; after all he put a Pascagoula, Mississippi church back on the straight and narrow with a half crazed squirrel. He wanted us to be happy, He gave us beer. He wanted us to multiply, He gave us woman. He wanted us to live a long life bringing glory to His name, He gave us medicine. He wanted us fed, He gave us the beasts of the land, sea, and air. He wanted us to have the means to defend all the things He gave us, so He gave us the gun. The gun praised and reviled, used by good and evil alike, has done more to protect and defend God’s creations than anything else he has given man. The gun has founded nations, toppled evil dictators, and defended the Holy Land. It has saved pastor and parish alike. It has been used for evil, but it has been good men with a gun in their hands that have kept this nation free. It has been good men with a gun in their hands that have protected your churches from evil. If not for the gun this nation would not exist. The gun, much like the spear, has no conscience, it cannot decide for itself whether or not it is committing a sin or defending its user. Pastor, you say we have a gun problem. I say we have a people problem. Today we have people turning away from God in record numbers, we have people killing each other in the street over a colored T shirt, and we have pastors like you preaching sunshine and rainbows; fiddling while Rome burns to the ground around your church.
Not long ago I had a preacher that would carry every Sunday. He preached from the pulpit of God with a Glock in his waistband holster. Now at the time I questioned why one would carry in the House of God, and he had said that he carried to protect his flock. Looking now at what has happened in churches around this country (South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas) I’ve come to realize my old pastor wasn’t crazy or paranoid. He saw what we all now see, he saw evil gripping the hearts of men and driving them to desecrate a Holy site for reasons known only to them. I don’t go to the church to worship anymore. I spend my Sundays in quiet reflection worshipping the Lord in my own way. I avoid church now because of Pastors like you, the ones that never learned they are not there to control their congregation but rather to help them find a close personal relationship with God. Your personal opinions on anything do not matter, what matters is helping your congregation bring glory to God and teaching them the good word of our Lord. Whether anyone in this equation of Pastor + congregation + church = Glory to God has a gun is irrelevant to the task you are to perform. Your task is to educate not dictate. God gave us free will and the means to defend our ability to exercise it, that means you leave it the hell alone and learn to deal with a congregation that may do things you do not agree with. They may smoke, they may drink, they may carry a gun to Sunday service, they may hunt after services or before, and they may do things in the bedroom you specifically preach against. These are things that are between them and God and you have no right, responsibility, or power to stop them or speak against them. You are an educator first, you tell them of God’s love for them and the promise he has made for them in the afterlife you save souls but above all you do not control them! Until you and all the other pastors, preachers, and cardinals learn this lesson and learn it well I will continue to avoid organized religions. I refuse to throw my money into a collection plate supporting a pastor that would leave me defenseless and let the lions feast upon my flesh in a house of the Lord rather than defend myself with the tools God gave me.
Sam Colt and John Browning being two of the most prominent apostles.
They were sainted along with Gaston Glock back in ’96. Hollow be thy points and straight be thy barrel. 45 be thy caliber or 9 mm be thy cartridge Rejoice in the works of the saints at the altar of ballistics. Saint Colt, Saint Browning, and Saint Glock gave us their greatest thoughts so that we may live to better praise our Lord. Praise the Lord pass the ammunition!
This is not a argument that I can respect. It’s a slight variation of the standard “Firearms make killing to easy, Using a firearm for self defense is way to difficult.” nonsense.
I hope it gets repealed. It’s nothing but tyrant policy by those intolerant of gun owners. No criminal seeking to perform mass murder or kill people is going to follow this ridiculous law. Making a law, requires some faith that the people will follow it, and that satisfies a moral dilemma. The law against killing people is amazingly simple and has steep punishments associated with it. Any additional legislation hurts those with no intent to harm, and does little to stop those who do. We already have a law covering all these mass shootings, and criminal problems. It is the law against murder.
You would think by now people would realize laws do not stop crime. Seriously the Ten Commandments never stopped Cain from murdering Abel. They haven’t stopped millions of church members and preachers from cheating on their spouses and they haven’t stopped billions of people from stealing. Wake up pull your head out of your a$$ and realize laws DO NOT STOP ANYTHING!!!! They are guidelines that tell you what actions will be punished and what that punishment can be they cannot by their very nature prevent a crime. Until you are caught actually breaking the law or evidence is found saying you violated the law you have not committed a crime.
Not to take anything away from your point, but Cain committed murder long before Moses announced the 10 commandments. That’s not to say he didn’t still know it was wrong.
Our understanding is that the law has been applied 1 time as an “add-on” in a drug case. It is indeed unenforceable and at this point is completely ignored by retailers, shooters and competitors.
I created a huge s%#t-storm by pulling my productions out of Colorado for a year, largely out of fear that we are a “high value target” and would prove a good test case for the law. I have been back producing in Colorado for a while, but most of my production is still out of state and will likely never come back. For example, before the Idiot Law, I was actively moving all production for THE BEST DEFENSE into Colorado, since Michael Janich, Andrew Branca and I, along with my SHOOTING GALLERY crew, live in Colorado. The show is now happily located in Tulsa with our production facilities there, and I see no reason to change that. We did one Colorado filming because of location issues a couple of years back.
SHOOTING GALLERY, preparing to start on its 19th season, remains a “location” show…we film all over the country and internationally. I can only think of a few episodes we’ve filmed here since 2013. Of course, GUN STORIES WITH JOE MONTEGNA is primarily an LA-based show, with additional filming in Tulsa, Virginia and Arizona.
Pretty much the only filming we do in CO is for the Internet, and since I completed my recording studio last year we add virtually zero money to the community.
All forms of competition using standard capacity magazines are running across the state after a short period of shutdown while we accessed whether there was any intent to enforce the law. I would still suggest caution in Denver, which isn’t actually in Colorado, and Boulder, which isn’t exactly in this universe. Denver has its own “assault weapon ban,” which also has never been enforced, and Boulder is bat-s#%t crazy. I would recommend a locked gun case when passing through those communities.
We do have issues with rogue ostensibly pro-gun organizations that exist to collect money and basically undermine the real 2A activists.
But a law that is fundamentally unenforceable; that is not enforced (indeed, 90% of CO law enforcement have said that will NOT even attempt to enforce it); that is openly flaunted and that was passed based on testimony from a Bloomberg ATF shill who told the legislature that the ATF did not issue ANY magazines of greater than 15 rounds (ARs, you lying pile of crap); a law whose other provision, the mandatory date marking of magazines, has been ignored by consumers, manufacturers and law enforcement; a law that was passed over the vocal protest of millions of Coloradans… IS A LAW THAT SHOULD BE REPEALED!
We’re working on it.
Michael B
“A lot of bad things can happen with guns. If someone did come into the sanctuary and this person had a weapon, all the studies show even trained police officers in crisis situations have difficulty hitting their targets.”
Only in New York City with a hit rate of about 18%.
http://nation.time.com/2013/09/16/ready-fire-aim-the-science-behind-police-shooting-bystanders/
“It is not unusual for a single firearm aficionado to have 50,000 rounds of ammunition. ”
50,000 rounds?
Darn!
I’m about 47,000 short!
The most I have is around 1,000 or so for my three 5.56/.223 ARs.
Anywhere from 50 to several hundred rounds for the rest of my 10 rifles and about 1500 for my 9mm. pistols.
Oh, and about 100 shells for my 20 Gauge shotgun.
ww.redit.com I proved Patty Mayo was a fake bounty hunter in 5 min.
I have a friend who is a recently minted U.S. Citizen of British extraction. Upon his receiving his citizenship our circle of friends threw him a party. In attendance was a cousin of his from the Land of Hope and Glory and several of us were having a conversation about the differences b/w the U.S. and U.K. Predictably, the subject touched upon guns and, several of us yanks talked about our views on and ownership of firearms. The Brit was, i think, dubious of some of our tales – indicating that he thought some of us were exaggerating a bit about our ‘arsenals’. Now, I’m not necessarily what I would call a ‘super-owner’ but, the demanding moms and brady bunch would probably call me that. So, I offered to show him the contents of my safe. After assuring him that *looking* at guns posed no threat to him, he agreed. When I opened the door, his face lost what little color it had and he literally gasped and took a couple steps back. I offered to let him handle some guns and offered to explain their types and designs and, well, all the stuff a gun guy would want to know upon seeing another person’s collection. He looked like an arachnophobe upon being offed the chance to hold a tarantula. I don’t think he appreciated the chorus of laughter from my buddies.
Theme guns aren’t my thing, but if the “Stand” part triggers the people supporting the national anthem protests, I’m glad SIG made it. Some shrill lefty in the media is bound to call this gun racist, or extra racist, or something,
Not a chance in hell of this passing in the House. Colorado will be a solid blue state come November. Governor Polis will never sign it.
I was reading through the paperwork once more today. Thought this was kind of funny: “…the gun practically has a life time warranty except for the wearable parts.” 😉
…looks like they expect 20,000 to 30,000 rounds out of the barrel.
“Except wearable parts”
That doesn’t leave much, maybe the sights, if you don’t do any adjusting.
Oh yes, the case. Oh no, that isn’t covered either, you have to open it to get the pistol out of there. That would wear on the hinges.
Maybe this needs updating:
http://www.michigan.gov/documents/Firearms_Guide_98674_7.pdf
Slaughtering Gun – is that another name for a power hammer?
OK. when did cane guns come back into vogue? Oh it wasn’t a cane gun just a regular cane? Uh huh so explain this to me Mr. Coppiceman why is it you are proclaiming through your “infinite legislative powers” that said old guy cannot be on a public sidewalk outside of a public school during hours of the day when the normal public is out doing normal public things like walking down public sidewalks while public schools are in session? Perhaps that particular sidewalk past that particular public school leads to the particular place that old feller needs to be at that particular time of day furthermore, perhaps you should teach those children not to lose their particular minds when seeing an object that “looks like a rifle”. This mass paranoia over mass shootings really does need to stop. I’m sorry little Billy but your school is not important enough to be the statement piece most mass shooters want and the likely hood or Ms. Sexyteacher’s boyfriend shooting up the place after she dumps him is extremely remote. Little Billy just bury your nose in the books, learn what a gun looks like, and don’t do the tide pod challenge.
Even crows know the difference between a stick and a rifle.
a very bad idea for batf(arbe) officers to be waving these around while screaming “drop! get on the ground now.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF9OLZKSC5k
yeah, i know… ad nauseum. forgive me.
This was supposed to be a thing like 20 years ago, but it was too bulky and clunky. Remember Land Warrior?
Where do these companys get there research and development when building an air rifle a 2.5 lb trigger is no where near the most advanced lol most match grade triggers in the airgun world are under a pound break wight. Tgese companys need to talk to real airgunnersand ask us what we want to see in a air rifle.
Forget it, it’s Clio. (sort of like saying forget it, it’s Chitcago).
http://www.miopencarry.org/k12-lawsuit
So, was it also obsessed liberal parents who banned the harmless book (it is harmless, right? Like that’s the whole point of the photo?) after they banned the M16 that gun is obviously a stand in for? Are they claiming that since hysterical mothers banned a clearly harmless book, we should respect their hysterical desires to ban an object?
“Ideas are far more dangerous than guns. We do not let our enemies have guns, so why would we let them have ideas?”
Anyone else wish an *actual* banned book was pictured instead? Huckleberry Finn?
It will never be repealed. Like any state with huge population surges, gun rights will die a very slow death. In fact, the anti gun movement has already won. It’s just that their victory won’t be realized in our lifetimes.
We are a first world nation. Affluent and soft. Mentally as well as physically. Some of us have lived on a farm. Some of us are hunters. Some of us have military experience.
The rest of you are behind a real long learning curve.
If decisions can be made remotely, then what to we need soldiers for? Mount the gun and camera on a remote controlled vehicle and fight the whole war from the bunker.
Couldn’t have said it nearly as well – this is what’s wrong with American policing
Nobody cares if you go home safe at the end of your shift:
http://www.michaelzwilliamson.com/blog/index.php?itemid=441
Kurt
He looks like a Bond villain with that scar.
You set it up weeks in advance of the season or hunt. They’re very effective for a gun hunt (concealment, scent control, you don’t have to be stock-still), but can be difficult to shoot a bow from. I have the Shack Attack Double Bull, awesome blind but the windows are too low. I still managed to harvest an 11-pt buck at about 25 yards with a bow, but it was a challenge. I have a Browning Phantom blind that’s much more user-friendly for all weapons than the Shack Attack.
The Primos Double Bull blinds are extremely high quality. Tuck a blind back in a corner, brush it in good to break up the profile, and game comes around right away. Very effective in certain situations, but I still prefer being 15-20 feet up a tree or tripod.
Hey, another option for AI based magazine rifle stock. I wished they will make one for the long heavy magnum action 700s. They are going after the AICS chassis competition marketplace.
So, when something related to this article says racist, is that referring to the new definition where anyone that is not an extreme leftist is a racist, or is it the old definition that refers to someone that discriminates against others for their skin color?