Home Gun Control Nine-Year-Old Ashton DeGrange Speaks at RI Gun Rights Rally Gun Control Nine-Year-Old Ashton DeGrange Speaks at RI Gun Rights Rally By Robert Farago - May 2, 2013 42 Facebook Twitter Pinterest WhatsApp Email Little Rhody resident Ashton wrote this pro-gun statement himself. RELATED ARTICLESMORE FROM AUTHOR New York Prosecutors Propose Reducing Jail Time for Gun Crimes While Gun Crime Soars Colorado Democrats Push 3 Gun Control Bills That Would Put Citizens’ Lives in Danger BREAKING: DOJ Publishes Proposed ‘Ghost Gun’ Rules, Outlawing Unserialized 80% Lowers, ‘Modernizing’ Receiver Definition 42 COMMENTS Give ’em HELL, Ashton! Reply Right on ! Reply So pathetic when parents force feed their children propaganda like this and then make them dance like trained monkeys for their own gratification and aggrandizement. No nine year old can hold a fully formed opinion (either way) on a topic as complex as gun rights. Reply and the gun grabbers don’t do the same thing? Reply Can you point out where I claimed they didn’t? Reply maybe not your propogated DNA… Reply And I am sure you were very proud when your nine year old gave his first speech at the Klan rally too, right? Reply never understand why gun grabbers want to troll here, but its not like they have anything else to do I guess. Rallies are nice guys, and one should never surrender their rights, but the dems hold an overwhelming majority in both houses of the legislature. I’m afraid this is a done deal. Reply Troll… Reply We all indoctrinate our children — if that’s what you want to call it. If nothing else, they absorb our opinions and worldviews simply by watching and listening. More than that, a responsible parent takes every opportunity to actively instill positive principles and values. This kid may not be able to hold a “fully formed opinion” on gun rights, but if that’s your basis for judgment, most adults in this country (especially on the anti-gun side of the debate) would be disqualified, too. He’s probably repeating arguments he’s heard his parents use before. What’s wrong with that? He’s getting a great experience with public speaking, and his dad is helping him as any good father ought to. In a few years he’ll be able to reason through the beliefs he grew up with and weigh them against competing ideas, and he’ll come to his own conclusions. And having the experience of putting an argument together and communicating it at such an early age means he’ll probably be able to do a better job of it than most. Reply +1 Reply Hey hmmmmmmm-Maybe with the nine years olds you have met-that may be the case. Generalizing about any group is myopic, as intelligence and aptitude can be found in the young as well as in adults. Reply You know it’s funny – I looked for the list of nine year old Nobel prize winners and didn’t find any. What am I missing? Reply It’s embarrassing watching you flail around like this. You’re not even a very good troll. You get no more of my time. Thanks for trying. Better luck next time. Restricting access to an inanimate object or confiscating it out of a desire to control people and/or to lessen a fear of said object doesn’t take a god damn Nobel Prize to comprehend. Explain it in simple terms to any 9 year old, use their favorite toy as the object to be regulated, and they’ll understand just fine. You dont have to win the nobel prize to be smart. I am proud to not have been disgraced with the “prize” that warmongers like Obama won. What am I missing? Where do I begin? Your brain Dumbass!! A 9 year old can be as smart or smarter than many adults!! Apparently you were never a child or you are of above average stupidity, oops, I mean intelligence. Yes name calling is childish but your comments are not only childish but downright mean and degrading to adults and children! Goose and Gander Hmmmmmmmmm!!!! DTMF telephone “dialing” was invented by an eleven-year-old. The Nobel committee typically looks at large accomplishments well after they were made. One day someone may indeed earn the Nobel for something they did – or started – when less than ten. Unlikely, but by no means impossible. ‘Course, since you’re a toll and likely of below-average reasoning ability, you’ll likely discount the preceding. Dont feed the troll. Reply +10 Reply Today seems to be troll day at TTAG. Yes, robber breaks in house, pa pulls out gun & shoots said robber, seems pretty straightforward to me? Randy Reply Y’know, I had a very well-formed, self-generated opinion on nuclear weapons when I was ten. One at odds with those of my parents, too. I was of the opinion that they were a good thing, even with the fear, acrimony, expense, damaged lives and environmental problems they entailed. As painful as it was for a pacifist, anti-Vietnam-war kid to admit, thanks to MAD two mutually hostile superpowers had managed to not engage one another in one or more large scale and much more damaging/costly conventional war(s), a rare thing indeed. I articulated this in class in the third grade in ’72, when most of my peers were all about little more than the latest G.I. Joe or Archie comic and telling females that they had “cooties.” Whatever you think of MAD or the Vietnam war, my beliefs were my own. Maybe this kid actually can think as well. Reply So no matter the child’s level of development, or their ability to form and cradle a complex opinion, they should NEVER speak their opinion. Because, hey, it’s just the parent talking. At what age do people get the right to speak their opinion, and not just tow the ” seen and not heard” view of childhood? The topic of gun rights isn’t really that complex. It’s simply a matter of deciding if you are for the disarmament of the peaceful individual, or against it. Reply Seconded, other Randy! Reply Hey, maybe this is the Randy the previous Randy has been talking to all along. Isn’t this kinda the same thing we get pissed over the grabbers doing? Using kids to further the cause. Reply Yes. There are hypocrites on both sides. Reply Are you implying that gun owners don’t care about the welfare of children? Are you also implying that gun grabbers does? Reply Of course grabbers – the rank and file, at any rate – care about kids’ wellbeing. They’re just tragically mistaken as to how best to realize it. Reply Russ Bixby – spot on! I don’t see it the same at all. I see a boy with a speech he created having the opportunity to give that speech. This isn’t a gun grabber making up nonsense to fit a disarmament agenda. This is a boy who has an informed opinion. We should be fostering this ability in children, and encouraging them to voice those opinions in respectful, productive ways; instead of allowing them to be indoctrinated into the progressive, bow to the government type school system we’re currently plagued with. Reply Hmm, let me think… A cogent argument from a living underage constituent vs mindless emotion surrounding a dead one. Valid ballots from live voters vs. plenty of votes from the no longer living. I see some similarities here. Reply bravo (this makes 2 today. keep’em coming) Reply When children say what Ashton said they’re unfortunate and abused peons of a sadistic parent. When children say the opposite they’re holy angels shrouded in glorious innocence speaking truth to power in an attempt to save all our souls. Reply ^^^^ This. Well fed said Shire-man. Reply So let me get this straight — a nine year old kid gave a nice speech and RI’s Governor wasn’t there to hear it? Too bad. I’m sure that Gov. Chaffee would have enjoyed having someone his own age to play with. Reply Ralph, Sorry my comment was aimed at Hmmmmmmmm the dumbass and not at you!’ TTAG randomly placing comments today I guess!!! Reply No worries, mate. I figured it out right quick. Reply My introduction to firearms was through the Boy Scouts some 35+ years ago. I think a good many gun owners developed a passion and respect for firearms through the Scouts or similar youth organizations. I’m just waiting for the gun grabbers to figure this out and push for legislation to ban select youth organizations. The bill would probably read something to the effect…”Domestic Youth Terror Groups Ban.” Reply I doubt he wrote that himself. It was kind of shameless. Why do both sides feel the need to trot out these sweet little kids as props for an adult issue? Who cares what kids think about gun control, gay marriage, etc. Come and talk to me when you’re 18. Don’t even get me started on 15 year olds being able to buy the morning after pill over the counter. Reply LEAVE A REPLY Cancel reply Please enter your comment! Please enter your name here You have entered an incorrect email address! Please enter your email address here Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Notify me of new posts by email.