SIG reckons their new P365 is the “ultimate” everyday carry gun — 365 days of the year! (Press release and video below.) The brand’s marketing mavens call the striker-fired 9mm pocket pistol a “High-Capacity Micro-Compact.” We’re talking 10+1 rounds, “nearly a 50 percent capacity increase over pistols in its class.” I’m more impressed with the standard-issue SIGLITE® night sights. At $599 msrp, plus $55 for a 12-round mag, plus $80 for a holster, cheap it ain’t. Want one? . . .
Press release: Newington, NH (January 8, 2018) – SIG SAUER, Inc. introduces the new High-Capacity Micro-Compact P365 – the ultimate concealed carry pistol. This revolutionary striker-fired 9mm pistol offers the perfect balance of capacity and concealment with unrivaled shootability and ergonomics . . .
The P365’s patent-pending, narrow-neck, modified double-stack magazine holds 10 rounds in both the flush-fit and extended versions, plus one in the chamber, for a full capacity of 11 rounds – nearly a 50 percent capacity increase over pistols in its class.
An optional 12-round extended magazine equips this micro-compact pistol with full-size 13-round capacity, allowing you to carry more, everyday – 365 days a year. The P365 is also smaller and lighter than most other pistols in its class, measuring 1-inch wide, 5.8-inches long, and 4.3-inches tall with a barrel length of 3.1-inches. It weighs just 17.8 ounces with an empty magazine.
The unique grip design and higher grip to bore axis reduces perceived recoil and makes the P365 as comfortable to shoot as many mid-sized pistols. The grip is fully-textured polymer with a slim-line rail that will accommodate SIG light or laser accessories. The stainless-steel slide comes standard with front and rear serrations for easier slide manipulation, as well as SIGLITE® night sights for faster sight acquisition under all lighting conditions.
“As a company, we are relentless in our quest to be better – to constantly improve upon our existing products and to design and build superior products than those currently on the market,” said Ron Cohen, CEO and President of SIG SAUER.
“The P365 is a result of this push. We built this pistol around our new, proprietary magazine for maximum concealability, capacity and shootability. The P365 is a pistol for professionals and civilians alike who want a smaller, high-performance pistol that does it all. This is the ultimate, everyday concealed carry pistol.”
Disassembly is safe and easy with a three-point takedown that does not require the trigger to be pulled. A generous trigger guard undercut also allows for a higher hand position and better retention. The narrowing magazine design allows the upper part of the grip to be perfectly contoured to fit the shooter’s thumb when fired.
In continued partnership with Blackpoint Tactical, one of the nation’s premier holster manufacturers, SIG SAUER is offering a series of concealment holsters specifically designed for the P365. Immediately available for order are the Blackpoint APX and IWB holster variants.
As a complete systems provider, SIG SAUER will be launching several new products specifically designed to complement the P365. Products will include ammunition optimized for everyday carry, a high-performance weapon light, a laser sight, a P365 compatible suppressor and a P365 air pistol. Announcements and press releases will be forthcoming on each of these exciting and new P365 products.
SPECS
MSRP: $599.00
12-Round Extended Magazine: $55.00
10-Round Flush Mag / 10-Round Base-Extension: $49.00
365 APX Holster: $79.95
365 IWB Holster: $79.95
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About SIG SAUER, Inc.
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So its a fatter shield with 2x the price?
Higher capacity, lighter weight, and the MSRP is $151 more, by no means double.
Wider? Yes, by a whopping .06″
The Shield is my favorite of the striker fired Smith’s by far, and I think one of the best, if not the best values in a subcompact pistol out there. But I’m willing to give this Sig a shot at the title.
Slide release looks to be positioned further forward too, the more rearward position on other subcompact models is a common problem I’ve noticed with some customers.
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I could envision replacing my Nano, which is my sub-compact EDC, with this gun.
HA!
Friends don’t let friends Nano.
But the P365, if it comes with tritium, would compare very well to the MSRP of the trt-shield, $579. It’s not just another mid-size G19 clone or a single stack 9, so that’s cool, I guess.
Size/Capacity wise its closest to a Kel-Tec P11, but you know, isn’t made of recycled 2 liters and creamed corn cans. I’ll probably buy one, because of the never ending quest for the Goldilocks carry gun, and SIG has good resale, so if it doesn’t work for me, you can swap it on easily.
I fall in to that category – I migrated to a XDs 9 and it is all well and good at the range – but I took a 2 – day 1,000 round class and my strong hand thumb came away bloody from rubbing on the slide release during recoil.
The FIRST thing I noticed on this P365 was the more forward position of the slide release and became instantly interested – as the Kahr pistols are the only other pistols that have the slide release far enough forward to not be near my thumb….
Looking forward to more hands on reviews of this pistol.
I’d double check your grip on that XDs.
I’ve done 1000 round weekends between my XDs’s and thats never been a problem.
Not sure what your setup is but I have a set of Talons on all of mine.
Just a suggestion but try keeping your right thumb in “the pocket” of the frame.
Works for me either way, in the pocket or out.
More comfortable with it in .. For me anyway.
Carry on safely my friend.
Congratulations to Sig Sauer for finally coming out with a product that can compete with the 30 year old Kel-Tec P11!!!! Kudos!
However, the Kel-Tec P11 has a 10+1 capacity, can take S&W mags, is a LOT cheaper, tested, has a 1913 accessory rail, so what exactly do you bring to the table other than your name and a proprietary rail?
I’m guessing Sig’s answer would be a much better trigger, comes with night sights. It is also rated for +P. Is the P11 rated for +P? I guess I don’t know.
Really…..you’re comparing a Keltec P-11 to this? Come on. I like the P-11 as a concept, but the trigger is horrendous and the finish is crap. If they would at least fix the horrible trigger, more people would buy them, but the price point would increase. Also, have heard that the recoil spring and rod need to be replaced regularly, unsure if that’s actually true.
Kel Tec. Wow. Lol. Hilarious joke comparing the 2.
Size and capacity is basically the same as the P11. The P11 is several ounces lighter.
Also note that the capacity of the P11 is actually better at 12+1. The factory 12 round magazines are exactly the same size as the 10 round ones (and don’t rattle like the 10 round). The 12 round factory MecGar mags don’t cost $55 either ($25-30). $55 for a mag is a joke.
The trigger of the P11 is atrocious. The P11 looks cheesy, and feels cheap. Still, it works. Mine’s been reliable, after initial break in period.
I occasionally carry my P11, when I want more rounds than my usual edc 642 and more punch than my little LCP.
I’m interested in the P365, for the improved trigger and presumably better quality and durability. Still, it isn’t revolutionary. It is just a high quality striker fired P11. 😀
I want one, and it may replace the 642 as my primary edc.
Night sights make that Shield quite a bit more expensive…
It is smaller than shield, lighter, and has way more capacity. It is going to really cut into shield and g43 sales
BASH IT WITH A HAMMER!!!! NOW!!!!!
I second that! Hit it with a hammer immediately.
But.. but wouldn’t that make it go off?
Sig has explained that they’ve begun using a new testing protocol with this gun that will now be used every new model they introduce. The testing involves impacting the gun hundreds of times (I forget the exact number) at precisely different angles to guarantee against the problems some have experienced with the P320.
Many people replace the Shield trigger and put on night sites so you’re already over the MSRP price differential between the two. The 365 has higher capacity too.
The real test will be how it shoots, how good is the trigger and reliability and other technical issues (or not).
Besides, I don’t consider a hundred bucks or so an issue when I’ll likely keep any carry gun for years and my life could depend on it.
Then don’t buy it
What happens if you hit the back of it with a hammer or drop it on the ground with so it lands on the striker plate?
According to Sig, nothing happens.
That dude might be lyin…..
I think they need to go ahead and put the trigger blade into this gun.
I am intrigued though. I will take a look.
No hammer, no danke. BTW, is that a faux rail on the front?…Can’t recall ever seeing that before.
It’s a real (proprietary) rail that they’re going to make a light for through their Electro Optics division.
I was told they were working on 3 versions. A standalone light, a standalone laser as well as a combo.
There’s literally no advantage to a hammer fired pistol. It’s actually a big disadvantage when you consider the problems hammers have in the field.
There are hammer fire pistols that are arguably more reliable than any striker fire or at the very least as reliable and their triggers can be much better… It’s also easier to clean mud from the hammer than it is to clean it out of the striker channel.
There are arguably….
On a hammer fired pistol, you can cock the hammer for a better aimed shot, also, on a SA/DA, you can immediately pull the trigger in case of a light firing pin blow, or defective round. On many if not most striker fired weapons, you must rack the slide, and hope the for mentioned failure was not a light firing pin blow.
If that’s not enough, consider that with a round in the pipe, and hammer down, the fact that a SA/DA trigger is usually quite heavier than a striker fired gun. This makes it safer to carry, with safety off, one in the pipe, hammer down, and yet the gun is instantly ready to fire. Yes I know that fist trigger pull is quite heavy, but I doubt you will ever notice it in a real life defensive situation.
I don’t apply the safety because I feel that with the hammer down, the weapon is safe enough, also, on some weapons pushing the safety down too far can activate the decocker, if you have the hammer cocked.
Don’t know if this has ever been a problem??
A “faux rail” LoL! As long as there’s a faux suprssor accessory, it’s a done deal.
I’d check it out. Definitely not going to be an early adopter like with my P320c. Though… I love that thing to death, but i still gotta remember that it needs to be sent back home. I bought a G43 for having a tiny, lightweight gun around. If this can do that AND have the same grip angle as my P320 then that would be enough for me to feel a little envious.
I really wanna ask if it’s drop safe.
On a serious note, G26 has been doing this for, oh, 20 years now? Proprietary rail so I HAVE to buy their light, $55 mags?
Go home Sig. I get the sentiment about “thin” guns, but people really need to man up. Carrying a firearm is not difficult, and this BS about width is just a pansy excuse to carry a single stack.
It’s much lighter and smaller than a G26 and some people don’t have those sexy curves like you do to conceal a girthy gun…
That’s why I carry my G17L in right pocket carry, it evens out the left side tuck. #girthy
Real OFWG POTG have curves.
#dealwithit #curvycarriersaresexy.
It’s a G26 with a decent grip angle fo sho. I’d bet a side by side comparison is in order. Any Glock fans know the empty weight of a g26 off hand?
G26 is about 1/4″ wider, 3/4″ longer, and weights about 1/4 lb more (unloaded) than this SIG, according to the specs listed above.
So you’re saying it’s overpriced? The presenter has to pay for that Panerai Luminor he has on in wrist.
Sig learned from the P320 and changed the way they drop test. It should be ok.
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Intriguing for sure. I’m sure Glock, S&W, and Springfield are trying to modify their sub compacts now to allow for a double stack. If it proves to be drop safe, I can see it getting a lot of wear.
WANT!! Take my money!!
umm SCCY anyone
I was about to say the same thing
If the trigger for this is DAO then it’s DOA at that price. SCCY would be better, but some people feel that the more they spend on a gun for defense, the better they feel about themselves.
Good luck competing with the Shield at that price. It’s a lot of extra dollars for a couple extra rounds.
For a couple of extra rounds AND factory night sights.
And a few less ounces.
Beat me to it… smaller, lighter, more rounds flush, more rounds with extended mag, factory nights with are pretty darn good.
I was looking at a Shield for those times when even my P320c is too big, but I think I’ll hold off a little bit on that…
And a better trigger.
Smaller than the shield and g43 and considering the $100 included night sights virtually the same price, lighter as well and higher capacity.
It is going to really highlight the limited capacity of the g43, with g43 bigger in most dimensions.
10/12+1 rounds is a sweet spot for the large number of people with just one pistol for carry and home defense.
S&W and especially glock forums are chock full of people who tried extended mags, and found they worked with target fmj but have issues with HP so this capacity advatnage for sig is huge.
Proprietary rail. you just lost some sales because of that. Why should people buy a light/ laser that fits only that firearm. You tried that with the P250 and changed afterwards with the gen 2 Grips. The only lights/lasers will only be bought by those purchasing the P365, why limit your sales to just on gun or to your guns only?
Plus the Mags are getting to expensive try using some that you already use.
That line of thinking is why no one ever innovates and everything stagnates… Have you ever tried to use a standard rail on a tiny pistol, they’re all but useless. The proprietary magazine is the reason they can get it so small and maintain the higher capacity. You should stick to your 30 year old Glock and never change, the 1911 guys welcome you to the club.
As a 1911 guy this made me laugh. No sarcasm, that’s funny. Bravo.
No, it’s a reason to buy more of ONLY their accessories.
This is a gun optimized for conceal carry. A standard rail is not appropriate and would likely add bulk for a feature that to be honest will rarely get used. Who conceal carries with a light? Id rather have Sig keep form factor and throw in this weird proprietary thing than use a standard and have it thicker and less concealable.
But hey, I’m in LA county and will never be able to actually conceal carry this thing anyways.
“ave you ever tried to use a standard rail on a tiny pistol, they’re all but useless”
The Keltec PF9 has one that works just fine. In fact, I’m surprised they aren’t more popular on sub compacts. The only problem is finding a good light small enough to fit.
Insight had (has?) the X2, but it had a shitty mini-maglite quality incandescent bulb. They had an LED version for a while but discontinued it as they surely didn’t sell many considering the LED version was $60 more.
ok I have a sccy and I spell reaaly bad but this little shit has been to hell and back and keeps going my 11 year old girl loves to shoot it and when I say to hell and back it has gone thought some crazy things I know bad grammer and spell
Did you know that your grammar and spelling aren’t great?…
LOL ty said that look back! I could give a history on this gun if you could put up with my
grammar and spelling!
is not the only gun I have ever had lol I know my grammar and spelling is bad that’s why I said somrthing
Sometimes bad typing gets mistaken for bad spelling and bad grammar.
I like it. Always liked SIGs (used to carry a P290) and always wondered why someone didn’t make a 1″ wide gun with 10 rounds that’s not a Glock 26. I carried a G26 for a while and it was always that blocky end that printed. My LC9s and PX4 Compact have sloped ends that melt under clothing.
Looks like it might compete handily against the Sig 320 subcompact, a little smaller dimensions, 10-12 rds vs 12, thinner, no removable trigger frame, definitely lighter. People seem to be fixated on thin and light so this should accomplish that goal compared to more traditional double stack subcompacts like the g26 or vp9sk, though how it shoots compared would be a question.
The price probably won’t be a problem if it is reliable, Sig fans will buy it and others might as well, if you can get a little more gun for the money. Shield and PPS are cheap and decent but price shouldn’t be the first question if this is going to be a gun you depend on to survive.
This is very interesting.
I just wish it had either paddle or a heel magazine release… I just can’t trust a pocket pistol with a traditional button release anymore.
And I know this is a bit large for a pocket pistol, but I pocket my Walther PPS M1, and as a big guy it works for me. I’ve just had issues with my previous KelTec P3AT and Kahr PM9 ejecting magazines in my pocket occasionally. The magazines weren’t fully ejected and obvious, just ejected enough to cause issues stripping off the next round. Never happened with my PPS though, guess I’ll have to continue to wait for HK/Walther to come out with another thinner or higher capacity option with a paddle/heel release. I may have to try out a Bond Bullpup9 though since I have a penchant for the bizarre even though it also has a traditional mag release…
I feel you with the mag release. I have a Kahr PM9 as well and when I carry it IWB my body weight as I sit in a car seat will depress the button just enough that the magazine will unseat. This happens about 75% of the time when I sit in a car. It is now my habit to reach behind myself and press on the base of the magazine until I hear/feel the *click* and know it’s back in operation. If the PM9 had a paddle release like an HK or the old Walther style then it would be the perfect pocket 9 in my opinion.
As far as this SIG it is longer, taller, wider, and heavier than my pm9. Yes it does have more rounds but when I want more rounds I carry my G 26.
I have that problem with 1911s. My solution was to buy a second mag catch, and sand it down almost flush with the receiver surface. I can still drop the mag, but only with a really firm jab with my finger tip. Absolutely no WAY it can be accidentally dropped now.
Then, when I want to compete I swap the original back in – probably a 30 second change.
Theoretically you could do the same with any pocket pistol if you were really concerned about it.
Micro-compact pistol? Back in ’91, when I bought my SIG P228, it was considered a compact pistol. Now it looks full-size compared to some of today’s offerings.
Been looking for a new carry gun, and this one checks all the boxes so far.
Looking forward to the TTAG review.
It’s winter. I wear a coat and carry a 92A1 in a Wilson Combat OWB holster. In warm weather it’s a PPS M2 in a single clip IWB. Looks like a nice gun but I have all the carry guns I need.
Love it my first carry was a U.S.A. Army 1911 beast gun I ever had I loved it wish I never sold it
I’ve already got this box checked, but I’m still looking forward the the review.
Looks like I’m buying a Sig this year.
I wonder about the trigger; with no trigger dingle and no safety, I infer it is DAO. Which I don’t mind as my EDC is a Kahr, but trigger weight and length of the trigger pull are always issues with such triggers. I like that it doesn’t look like a SIg–I never much cared for their styling. Personally, I prefer a little more barrel; the 3″ barrels can result in a lot of muzzle flash and flip. For a Sig, the price is actually kind of low, but it is in line with other similar guns on the market. Although Shields can be found on sale for $300 or so, mostly they run in the mid-400s without night sights. LC9s (and the CM/CW Kahrs) run significantly less, but have less capacity as well. Assuming that this will drop about $50 retail in the short term, and perhaps another $50 in the longer term, this would make a great carry gun for my daughter (who lives in a free state). [This pistol will not qualify for the California Roster even if the microstamping rule goes away, as it lacks a manual safety, and LCI and probably a mag disconnect as well, all of which are required here.]
For comparison, my Kahr CW9 is two ounces lighter, 3.64″ barrel, 7+1 capacity, DAO trigger, .095″ wide. I paid $385 several years ago; it is easily found for less now. Mags are about $20. It easily and comfortably conceals in an IWB holster, as I imagine the Sig will as well.
I picked up a Bersa BP9CC last year, and that thing has just about the lightest trigger outside of a competition gun I’ve every seen, and it doesn’t have a dingus. Mine measures out at 3.7lbs pretty consistently after a thousand or so rounds. Size wise, this thing is basically the single stack G19 everyone talks about. I don’t carry it much, trigger, and I have a Kahr CM9, who also makes a bunch of similarly sized SSG19’s in various CSKM…versions.
None of these have bargain mags, Kahr’s lower end models only come with one $50 mag.
Kahr sells the 9-7 mag for $40. It can be found cheaper elsewhere, at least $100 less.
The CM9 takes the 6 rounders and I don’t think they have a plastic doodad that would fill in the space. I hate the metal floorplates, they’re too small and too sharp IMO, I’d like to have something thicker, but I haven’t found any that work, ebay had a few 3D printed ones, but they just didn’t work out.
Intrigued, excited, PROPRIETARY rail !?!? WTF Get out of here. Thought we killed that crap about 20 years ago. No thanks.
Nearly every micro compact uses a proprietary light/laser attachment system. Many don’t get a forward attach rail at all and just clip on to the trigger guard or have a tiny 1/4 turn style fastener, but almost all require an attachment made for that specific weapon, the P365 is not unique in that respect.
Glock 43, Shield 2.0, Sig 365
Overall length 6.26 in., 6.1, 5.8
Height 4.25, 4.6, 4.3
Width 1.02, 0.95, 1.0
Unloaded Weight 17.95 oz, 19, 17.8
Barrel length 3.39, 3.1, 3.1
Capacity 6+1, 7+1, 10+1
If the Sig 365 turns out to be a durable, reliable pistol. This will be quite the accomplishment.
Everything I see, including my home scale, says the Shield is closer to 20 oz…
I am extremely skeptical this thing really measures as thinner than a comparable single stack pistol. There is just no way to get 4 extra rounds AND have it thinner unless the grip is much longer.
I don’t think its thinner, its as thin. Looking at the Mag design, where it feeds its is a single stack, so it shouldn’t really be any thicker.
Shield is already a bit of a 1.25 stack, but it seems like they could do something similar, mag that is the same at the top fatter at the bottom, with a bit of a change in the grip, shouldn’t need to change the grip, there’s quite a bit of materiel there now.
Not a SIG customer (yet) but let’s say one was left-handed. Will the P365 work as well as my P30SK? Didn’t see any mention of ambi controls.
Dang it to hell!!
Now after buying 2 guns in the last 2 weeks looking for more capacity without a much larger grip then my Officers 1911.
I bought a 13+1 SAR B6P. And a S&W 4 inch M&P 15+1. Both a tad too big in the grip length department for me.
Sig has to come out with this one.
Ive sworn off SIGs in general due to their costs.
Although other then capacity my P938 is a very dependable carry piece.
Im going to have to try 1 of these now too.
Submit it to Calif to be put on the roster, Don’t ignore the people in Calif!
Currently it does not qualify, and as long as there is the microstamping requirement in effect, which no manufacturer can meet, it can’t qualify. To qualify without the microstamping, it would need three things: 1) manual safety, 2) LCI, and 3) magazine disconnect. An examination of the pictures here does not appear to show either of the first two requirements, although I know that Sig does have models that qualify.
i’m in communist cali and i want one. Please put it on the roster.
Now this is all kinds of intriguing. Can’t wait to see the TTAG review of this little gun.
Love my Shield, but 10+1 of 9mm on similar sized package? Yeah, I wanna know more.
I’m very happy with my 220 $ Taurus pt111 and its two 12 rounds mag… more than 600$ with the tax and spare mag is insane for that gun or for pigeon only
This will be sneered at, no doubt, but I’ve got a Taurus PT111 G2 in 9mm w/double-stack 12-shot mag (comes w/2) and it’s been great so far. Paid $279 (over $400 less than the SIG 365) and have seen this model for less since then. Tritium night sights are available from Lakeline for about $100 more and you can put them on the pistol yourself. I have two SIGs and really admire their line, but as to the cost difference, I won’t be in line for one.
Bought one of those for a broke friend around Christmas for $189, its actually quite decent. Trigger is kind of crappy, different crappy than SD9VE, the double strike thing makes something like an Apex less likely.
I bought my daughter a Millennium Pro more than seven years ago when she finished college. She never had any issues with it, other than that it was loud and issued a large fireball. Otherwise it was decently accurate and reliable. Funny thing, the angle cur on the slide of this Sig immediately reminded me of a Taurus.
This is the first new striker-fired nine to get my attention in a long time. I could retire my SR9c for this. I’ll wait and see how it runs for the early adopters.
There is a post in the Sig forums that claim some retailers are taking pre-orders for $499, which is a lot less than MSRP.
And I just finally picked up a sig p938… I had assumed I found the apex, but who knows. Siglite night sights are pretty nice. I just with they would add some flo orange or something to the front sight for easier pick up.
No knock on SIG, but I’ll look into this pistol after the obligatory recall.
Oh Gawd! Another polymer striker-fired handgun. Just what the world needs.
I’m glad I bought my P239 last year, because I think the brand is going down!
I bought my daughter a Millennium Pro more than seven years ago when she finished college. She never had any issues with it, other than that it was loud and issued a large fireball. Otherwise it was decently accurate and reliable. Funny thing, the angle cur on the slide of this Sig immediately reminded me of a Taurus.
It’s disheartening at best to see Sig fall into the Stryker fire world. I own the p238 ,p938 and a vintage p220. They are my favorites by far. I am sure I will buy the p365 just to have one It will be doomed to be a safe whore and a range mistress. Currently caring a Kimber super carry pro iwb. Just don’t feel safe carrying these Stryker fire no saftey rigs iwb.
My EDC is a Kahr with a DAO trigger, and I have no such concerns. It is only partially cocked, with full cock actuated by pulling the trigger. The trigger is too heavy and too loooong to be accidentally pulled.
My main EDC is a CM9 with a model-specific Streamlight laser/light. I feel very comfortable with the safety features engineered into it, plus, for a 9MM it is TINY. My alternative EDC is a SCCY CPX-1, which is more comparable to the Sig in size and capacity. Both are reliable, well built firearms. Both cost significantly less than the Sig.
And I just bought a Glock 43 with night sights. Oh, well. It’s been reliable so far and works well for pocket carry.
Personally, I’m looking forward to be able to hold one in my grubby little paws to see how it stacks up against my XDs’s.
It by far exceeds their capacities, thats for sure.
My P220s & 226 have always been asking for a little brother, maybe now they’ll shut up n leave me alone.
😉
As far as lighting is concerned, I was told they were working on 3 versions. A standalone light, a standalone laser as well as a combo.
If and when I add a 365 to my collection, I’m not gonna be camping out for days like the shnobbs awaiting the release of the newest iPhone.
That my friends, is just phargin’ stupid.
It’s not like they’re RUSH tickets for another final farewell tour only to be played in 1 venue per country or anything … 😉
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Incredible, after over 20 years, Sig has invented a Glock 26.
Wow…so for nearly twice as much as I paid for my SCCY (10+1), with a model specific laser, I can buy a gun that’s virtually the same size, same capacity and 2 oz. heavier. No thanks. I didn’t see whether the Sig is DAO, like the SCCY, but I’m guessing it is. My CPX-1 has over 300 rounds of six brands of FMJ & JHP ammo that I used to break it in and not one hiccup. I realize SCCY’s can fail, but so can a Sig, or any firearm for that matter. I’m sure it’s a nice pistol, but Sig has broken no new ground here, except for the Sig faithful.
Am I the only person who appreciates a slightly heavier gun to help control flip and recoil?
As far as pricing – keep in mind, you’re getting high capacity, night sights, etc . . . . and compare it to Sig’s P938 which is identical in size, carries 6 or 7 rounds, and costs several hundred dollars more.
That said, the P938 is just so much sexier than this thing (especially in its various iterations). I took one look at this pistol and I was all “meh.”
If it’s a good gun, at that price point the G43 probably can’t compete with it without a price cut, but the shield is still considerably less expensive even after factoring in night sights.
I hope its a good gun and they sell a ton of them.
I bought a Shield a couple of years ago. Had to sell it and get something that took less effort to rack the slide.
I,m a bit “ancient”, and my slide racking abilities have decreased somewhat.
Has anyone else found that the Shield’s slide is a bit harder to rack than most? Or is it just my tired old paws.
nice gun, certainly worth the money. i’ll sty with the shield simply for the thumb safety which i prefer even on my ccw.
Regarding the proprietary rail… many moons ago, I used to carry one of the early XD40’s in subcompact. Had one of those dinky little 1913 rails that was so short that pretty much only one or two lights on the market could fit on. It was pointless.
If the P365 sells light hotcakes, I’m sure Strike Industries or someone like them will create some sort of adapter… or Surefire/Streamlight/Insight/et.al will make some sort of adapter for their lights like they do for certain H&K’s and subcompacts without rails
If they build it in .380 acp they might cram 20 rds in that mag!!!!!
Looks good except for the price, a 9 mm is good. Drop it from fifty feet do a mud test and meat target it!
About 15 or so, thick New York’s stacked one behind the other ought to do it.
380 and 9mm are exactly the same diameter, the 2mm in cartridge length is immaterial. You can get exactly the same number of rounds in a mag with either, hence Glock 25 takes 15 just like G19. The important difference is pressure, which matters not a whiff in mag width.
Can anyone tell me what the options are to extend the mag in length or capacity on the Sig P250SC in 9MM! Is it a good gun for carry for a new shooter with double action or should I stay with striker fired with a safety. Have the PX4 Compact but not comfortable yet with that trigger right now!
Buy either the compact or full sized mags, and add the appropriate X-Grip adapter. Or, look around online for a pinky extender… you may have to look under P320, though (they use the same mags).
I have the P320c… with the small grip module, it works well in most situations, so I would imagine the P250/320SC would be a bit easier to conceal.
I preferred DA/SA for carry… and still do… but not enough to prevent me from switching to the P320. I just shot it better and enjoyed shooting it more (though I still somewhat regret selling my P239).
Thanks for your input. I too have the P320c,which is my fovorite
Right now. Also have the SW 2.0
9MM Compact with safety. Just recently purchased PX4 Compact, great gun but not used to trigger! New hobby for me with handguns so still learning what’s best for me. Maybe I already have Ma sufficient arsonal now? Should I make one of what I have a good carry or go with P250SC? Thanks
This will be my next pistol purchase. I own and have carried a Taurus PT111 in the past. The size of the PT111 was perfect, and it was more comfortable to carry than my Glock 26. The only thing that kept the PT111 from being the perfect carry pistol was the lingering doubt about reliability due to the manufacturer’s reputation. I always said that I would purchase a similar sized double-stack from a reputable manufacturer in a heartbeat. Looks like Sig won.
smaller guns need heavier frames IMO
I don’t understand the micro trend, what are you guys wearing that you can’t conceal a midsize pistol in? Spandex and Speedos? In jeans and a T-shirt I have never had any problem concealing mid size handguns like the Glock 19, Colt Commander, CZ PCR.
I’m the type that, when i’m hungry, I grab a burger. So long as it does the basic thing food is supposed to do and doesn’t give me the runs, that is sufficient. Likewise with pocket guns: I grab one that is convenient and that is reliable and is a proven design and toss it in my pocket when I go out. Anything more is anal-retentive nonsense.
A lifelong 1911 .45 shooter, I have moved to a 1911 Commander 9×19 in my 80s and – for my pocket friend – I just found a used Glock 42 with mag extension on both mags. I polished the barrel’s feed ramp, got some hot Buffalo Bore defensive ammo and the little popper digested it all with no hang ups and was accurate at 15 yards. I got an extended slide release for the pistol, drop the pistol in strong side pocket and an extra loaded mag in weak hand pocket and I’m good to go. On to more interesting things.
TAKE MY MONEY!
I wonder if this is any easier to clean and reassemble than the P938 which I feel is about as much fun as getting poked in the eye with a stick. That P938 recoil spring is a hateful little thing. And my fingers are tired of getting cut up. I figured out how to use a dowel to make it easier but still, that spring is treacherous.
Kel-Tec did this in 1995. Just for the record.
K… I see the innovation here, and I LOVE my Sig’s, especially triggers – especially over Glock and not impressed with the 43’s either per se – however I just looked on g-broker’s site, and you’re not touching one of these for ANYWHERE near MSRP, plus their silly prices for holster ($99)…I could get 2 holsters for an XDS/Shield/Glock and extra mag for the price of the holster alone. I get the “same size twice the capacity”…again, really innovative to pull it off with quality, but for the money…I can get a cpl J-frames. Maybe when the “new” wears off & their price comes back down a bit, I’ll look into one, till then, 4 more rounds isn’t worth the almost $250 over a G43, or my favorite J-frame…
Please don’t compare the P11 to the new Sig. Kel Tek has the highest failure rate of any gun ever. Wht they are still in business I will never know. Their Forum is there to tell you how to fix your gun on an ongoing basis. I have never heard of a gun company before who cut the chamber the wrong length to fire 147 grain bullets and didn’t offer to fix the run that they know was faulty. I fired q box of 115 grain over 10 years ago, and was impressed until I loaded up the 147’s and the gun became a derringer. This is common knowledge, and I would guess that 90% of the folks that bought them , dumped them. The Sig just got rushed out the door, kind of like the Remington’s did a couple of times. But Sig had better be careful or they could end up in Chapter 11, also, But not just with 1 gun going bad. You know they were recalled right?
Sorry that was the pf-9, my bad, the 11 had the snapped off firing pins, 3 out of 5 at the range just broke off. The owners manual warns against dry firing, Who ever reads the owners manual? Every one other than a couple of rifles are junk, they really have a nerve even selling that 30 round 22 magnum p30, I mean it looks like a prototype.