It’s often said that New Jersey is the most corrupt state in the United States. While it has some stiff competition from the Land of Lincoln, it should be pointed out that corruption doesn’t just refer to politicians and bureaucrats accepting bribes, political patronage and kickbacks. A government is also corrupt when it muzzles the people who [supposedly] give them the power to make and enforce laws. As is the case here, where IBEW union employee and Garden State Senator Donald Norcross ejects a citizen testifying against civilian disarmament. No props to the State troopers who did Donnie’s bidding. Twice. I know there are good people in New Jersey, some of them gun owners. God—and the U.S. Supreme Court—help them. For I fear nothing else will.
I’m having real problems accepting what I just saw.
Despicable.
Voting will not fix the problem
When hanging politicians is legalized, I can visualize this dude on the end of a rope via many of his constituents. .
WRONG…look what happened in the mayors race in Omaha
I think (maybe its hope?) that they were applauding the American Citizen standing up to this kangaroo court concerning our inalienable right to protect ourselves…..
I think they we’re too. Like the booing when the polichik told him he was out of order. It was in favor of the citizen.
Time and again, I am amazed at the incompetence of American LEOs.
Just for comparison:
In all of 2011, German police fired 36 rounds aimed at people, “killing six and injuring 15.”
Source:
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/05/11/11662345-german-police-fired-just-85-bullets-total-in-2011?lite
That is absoluely outrageous..
What was the reason given for his ejection. Could not understand the first words of the fascist. Was it a time limit thing? Surely it wasn’t because he didn’t like what he was saying…
Apparently, it was because he wasn’t staying on the topic of the Bill.
Now here is the real rub: the gun control folks were allowed to testify multiple times (because only a handful showed up), while the gun rights crowd was limited in their discussion.
Welcome the the PRNJ (People’s Republic of New Jersey). I loved it when I used to drive from NJ to PA along the northwestern corridor. The sign read, as I entered PA: “Welcome to Pennsylvania. America Starts Here!” I loved that sign and wish they did not remove it because it is still true. Their firearms laws are a joke there as are most of their political bobbleheads.
Nonsense, compared to Illinois all others are pretenders.
Wow. People actually applauding the suppression of free speech.
Amasing the coward removed the text from his article, I guess he saw how incriminating it was but nowhere did he state that he would refuse to enforce such unconstitutional laws in fact: “it would place every police officer in the position of having to enforce the law on people who are otherwise upstanding citizens. I haven’t run an official poll, but I sincerely doubt my stopping by to raid your gun safe with my friends, using force, would be welcomed. I would venture enough people would take the forcible entry of my colleagues into their homes with search warrants for relatively weak felony charges would lead to potentially fatal altercations.”
This is a re-statment of his intent to enforce “weak laws” using violence on “upstanding citizens”
talk about red flags!
So…what was the prize he picked/got for winning? 😉
I would have told him to choke on my dick.
And the tree of freedom starts to wither, one leaf at a time…
I weep for generations to come…
I am gobsmacked. Literally speechless.
Citizens are incrementally disempowered. When they have the valor to stand up to be heard and DARE say something anathema to those in power, are essentially told to STFU and FOAD. This is something that is being repeated time and again across the country, for this phenomena is not exclusive to NJ. So goes the idea that elected officials are servants to the populace. So go the rights of the people.
We are watching a death of a nation! A few will fight with all their might most will do nothing.
The founding fathers would be shooting by now.
Violent overthrow of that state’s government wouldn’t have taken more than a moment’s pause for them to endorse.
Most of the shooting competitions I enter use stock, or nearly stock firearms. Ones that you could actually carry and use for self defense. The super-tricked out guns clearly have a purpose, and I respect that, but I have much more respect for what a shooter can do with a weapon that could actually be taken on a hunt or carried and used in self defense. YMMV.
That video will be used in some future history class about the time leading up to the Second American Civil War…
Back in the previous article about Mayor Suttle’s Gun Control advertisement, I mentioned that I hoped Omaha could get it together and vote his scum out of office. It makes me happy to see that for once the people actually got it together and made a change. And I am happy to say my vote was a part of that.
How much is that overpaid Trooper making “Not to be there” when a crime occurs.More reason never going to spend a red cent in that Libtard State.
As an NJ resident and gun owner, I’m afraid the fix is in on these stupid bills. After hearing the open mic comments from idiots like Weinberg & Greestein calling for confiscation I can only hope & pray that the Gov. will have enough sense to veto the most eggreous of the 22 the Assembly passed. Some are so stupid, they defy logic but that’s the Progressive mentality. These “laws” will save no lives, they will only extend the control over us that these slobs want.
New Jersey is where New York dumps its garbage. Apropos, no?
Is it possible to throw a state out of the union?
and this is how it’s going to start the tide will turn… today Omaha …tomorrow Colorado next week chicago next month california next year new york vote the tyrant’s out
I’m not holding my breath. The American people as a whole have already displayed without a shadow of a doubt what stupid, easily-led, pathetic fools they are.
My son has a new Sig 1911 and a 226. I have a SP2022 and a P250. I have to say we’ve had no problems with any of them and I believe they were all manufactured in Exeter. We shot the 1911 this past weekend for the first time. We ran 500 rounds of Sellier through it and not one FTF or FTE. I’m really surprised at all the posters who’ve had problems. I hope that doesn’t bode problems for us. I really liked the gun.
I don’t know what’s more disturbing, the blatant tyranny or the applause of it…
This is infuriating.
I love when I checked the list on the gun grabber’s website I did not see a single listing for OK, I keep saying we are the most red state in the Union. Govenor, both senators, all 5 House Of Representatives are Conservative. And if you do research, in both of the elctions of the “emporer” he did not win a single county. Not even red TX can claim that……
it will be a bit chilly tonight
ill have to reach in my box, pull out a new a new jersey flag from my collection and use it for fire tender.
I grew up in S.E. Alaska. I shot my first brown bear in 1971 at age 11 with a single shot 20 guage at about 60 feet. Second rifled slug finished him. Granted, he was not charging, nor was he a large bear. In Alaska very seldom will the shot be in excess of 100 yards, I now use a 1886 Winchester 45-90 with open iron sights and the deer never walk away. It’s all about shot placement and wound channel. I have been hunting all my life and believe a larger hole is better. For any predatory animal it is critical to have a quick follow up shot at the ready. Most people spend too much time at the range and talking ballistic, just go hunting, it is the real test of a rifle.
Wheres the ACLU? This seems like the type of thing that should be right up their alley…guess the NJ ACLU isint so worried about freedom for CERTAIN types of people…
The ACLU has officially stated many times (it’s even right up front on their website) that they do NOT accept the Second Amendment and do not think anyone outside the government has the right to bear arms.
Not exactly true. For many years, they accepted the proposition that the Second Amendment protected only a common right in connection with service in a militia, but not an individual right to keep and bear arms (as did the minority in Heller). Since Heller, however, there have been increasing calls within the organization to step up to the plate on these issues, and in some limited areas they have done so on the local level, just not as national policy.
But ConLaw is a strange field. The ACLU defends free speech, the separation of church and state, due process rights of accused, rights that usually run afoul of right wing conservatives running on a law and order, tough on crime ticket or who seek to invest government with a very Christian bent; hence the ACLU is generally associated with “left leaning” causes. The Conservatives on the other hand are the defenders of the Second Amendment, but are always attacking the others. To criticize the ACLU for not defending the 2A is hypocritical of the right wing elements that refuse to support the others.
Why aren’t injuctions being filed against these bills. The Heller judgement has everything laid out.
My interpretation is that it was written so as to read our right to bare arms was not to be infringed in our homes. Also it made clear no “Jurisdictional red-taping” to disallow non-disallowed, by court order for criminal acts, not resultant from violations of said laws, so as to delay or deminish ones capability to defend ones home by ANY MODERN TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCEMENT KNOWN!
They put modern arm deffense entitled by the 2nd amendment transcends time developed advancemt in technologies.
It was termed that multiple courts have up-help multiple other ammendment protections in modern terms & technologies. Examples being personal property protection in software & internet development. So in their decission how could it not apply to the 2nd as well.
The judgement went on to say that the idea that “arms” types can be restricted is against the basis of the 2nd A.
I don’t think NJ is lucky enough to have an expert NRA lobbiest like we do in Illinois. If not for Todd our NRA Lobbiest we would be the New Jersey of the mid west for gun rights by now.
Don’t modern copy machines have the ability to recognize and prevent the copying of US currency? Some beaurocrat will say “Hey, can’t we force the 3D printer companies to install similar prohibitions for guns?”
3d printers are open source. just flash the rom with new “free” software.
also 3d printers can self replicate so 3d printers can print other 3d printers.
I think it’s primarily nature, and here’s why: My father grew up around guns. He’s hunted several times. He sold my late grandfather’s .30-06 when I was about 10, and has not owned a gun since. I shoot and hunt, my brothers both shoot and hunt, most of my extended family shoots and hunts. My dad has been mugged more than once, he used to drive truck, he’s a bank manager who has been robbed at gunpoint more than once. He is incurably stuck in condition white.
Awwww hell no… Disarm another northern state. We can give our violent criminals free tickets to Jersey.
I have a friend in Boston who doesn’t own any firearms – although he has nothing against others having them and votes indeendent – teaches math at MIT and has a Bridgeport milling machine, Ohio Instrument lathe, 12-speed drill pres et cetera set up in his basement with which he and his lovely, Earth-worshipping wife make things out of metal.
Intricate, complex and precise things. out. of. metal.
RF, methinks you are prone to oversimplification.
Bought Taurus 405 for my wife and it shoots lights out.. She complains about her hand stings after about 75-100rnds or so but smiles while she says it.. Loves the punch and knows it will put the hurt on any scumbag needing some attention. Bought her a moonclip unloader from brownells abour $20. It helps keep the clips straight and tight best of all easy to unload.. Still looking for 5 more stellar clips..The 405 is a small hand cannon in its own right and lots of gun. If you have an autoloader in 40sw this is a great addition I highly recomend.
If it was a “War on Terrorism”, the cops were laying down suppressive fire. It seems to be standard, when one cop shoots, all the cops shoot.
Just like Waco. Look at the agents on the roof. Most of the shots hitting them and the building walls beside them were (un)friendly fire. No wonder the bodies were buried quickly without the usual examination. The truth would have been very embarrassing to a number of agencies and individuals.
I was a member of IBEW Local 640. Something like this is absolutely no surprise. Even in a right to work state like Arizona the underhanded and shady shit that goes on is staggering. I joined in good faith truly believing in the union cause and ended up leaving after having seen the reality of it. Went straight to a big non-union shop and was treated fair and square. I made my advancements not on who I knew but on my own merit.
http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/05/gun_control_bills_move_forward.html
Reading this, I wonder if he was off topic and had been warned before to stay on topic or risk removal.
Thoughts?
I believe there may have been some disagreement about the definition of “on topic.” The Senator seemed to be defining off topic as “stuff I disagree with.”
The first thing that went through my head after seeing those videos was a short scene/phrase from The Hunt for Red October:
“This business will get out of control. It’ll get out of control and we’ll be lucky to live through it.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Emdzsz_XvfA
Glad I moved out of NJ to PA years ago.
The greatest impact of the Liberator is the how the media and politicians are taking notice. It’s not like homemade guns are anything new but this one has managed to make serious waves and put those in power on notice that they will never be in control of arms. That’s a good thing.
I am REALLY getting sick and tired of the the people that run the State that I live in. That was absolutely disgusting. Norcross wants to get all “we will have order” and “don’t yell at us, we’re not yelling at you” when all they are doing is yelling at us with their legislation.
He is just another member of the ruling class watching over the rest of us on the road to serfdom. If it were some gun-grabbing-pinko-commie-puke sitting there they would be allowed to throw-up their talking points at will with not even a hint of a time limits.
“Don’t yell at us”… grow some thicker skin you frigging rights-grabbing piece of crap!!!!
Super. Maybe we should’ve thrown some of that grassroots door-to-door organizing goodness at the 2012 election.
I’m speachless. Stuff like this, and like the IRS disaster, is right out in the open. No subtle differences of oppinion, no debate to be had concerning value judgments. It’s clearly wrong, and has no place in America.
The article was as objective as they come nowadays. It was a refreshing read, and a reminder of what journalism SHOULD be.
Is there any insurance companies that would even write this policy?
As usual, gun control zealots are wrong on the math and the law: Insurance does not cover intentional or illegal acts like murder or suicide. That pretty much leaves accidental damage, legal fees, and so on. According to the CDC there were roughly 16,000 accidental unintentional firearm deaths and injuries in 2011. The insurance calls for a max payout of 250k, so assuming the maximum payout for all of those, that’s about $40 a year when spread across 100 million gun owners.
If I were the NRA, I’d offer three tiers of these policies – 100k, 250k, and 1million, you’d get a free NRA membership, and a 50% discount if you’d taken a safety class.
P.S. as of 2014, everyone is supposed to have healthcare, so we are all already paying for that thanks.
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all you fools go on about will and rjf. what about vince the snake.he only worked at rjf to be on the show.so he could end up opening his own shop. thats why he messed up the ar build. not kris. vince is a seasoned gunsmith.how would he miss anything on that build. what a sh*&* head
That is on a per firearm basis, right?… so.. carrying the 6 again, that would be.. hell I could retire at 40 with that cash!!!
Shouldn’t have rolled on Shabbos.
He shot himself in the leg when he hit the gun with his ball. He’s very fortunate that it wasn’t the other way around.
Do i get a sense of Civil War II? That would be really messed up.
The J-Frame abides…………….
Note about the video above: If you watch the first 20 seconds, you’ve seen the whole video. The rest is the same, just in different colored CGI.
Seems like they are not going anywhere. I wouldn’t mind seeing firearms and ammo manufacturing become more concentrated in free states.
Ever?
You’re aware they made a second Tron movie, right?
Polands first tank…it was a miserable failure.
I think Remington waited too long to get out of NY. At least they got to keep a few.
All this, plus you can “Mexican” carry! We’ll see if The TSA is really on the ball!
With the recent budget cuts, The Army had to rethink the concept of the “Light Armored Vehicle.”
This is what a police state looks like.
It maybe 84% of the counties but probably 20% of the population. The same problem we have with the blue states vs. the red states.
One shot kill would have to hit the CPU or battery pack. CPU is very small, battery pack would be a better option.