MSNBC’s Venezuela Reporter Illustrates Reason for 2nd Amendment Rights

Opponents to Venezuela’s President Nicolas Maduro confront loyalist Bolivarian National Guard troops firing tear gas at them, outside La Carlota military airbase in Caracas, Venezuela, Tuesday, April 30, 2019. (AP Photo/Fernando Llano)

After years of deterioration under Bolivarian socialist rule, it appears that the Venezuelan people have finally had enough. Protests and clashes have broken out in Caracas.

In situations like this, sometimes eternal truths reveal themselves in some of the strangest places. During its coverage of the situation, MSNBC reporter Kerry Sanders stated the following:

“You have to understand, in Venezuela gun ownership is not something that’s open to everybody. So if the military have the guns, they have the power and as long as Nicolás Maduro controls the military, he controls the country.”

I couldn’t have said it better myself. Reminder: the Second Amendment has nothing to do with hunting.

I noted previously that, as the economy inevitably failed and the government asserted ever more control, Venezuelans came to regret supporting gun control. My Uncle Mario taught me a similar lesson based on what happened to our family in Cuba.

A disarmed populace is at the mercy of its government. An armed populace can resist a government that becomes tyrannical.

Remember, the Second Amendment was included in the Bill of Rights by the Founders to prevent exactly what is happening in Venezuela right now.

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  1. avatar Pwrserge says:

    But muh’ drones. Reeeee
    ~ NPCs everywhere

    1. avatar SAFEupstateFML says:

      We never had a well publicized dirty war in this country since the revolutionary war and that was very tame compared to how many governments and rebels go after each other and associated civilians/families. Even our civil war and it’s reprisals on civilians is largely ignored….. well outside of the South anyway. So most Americans have no idea how vicious that can get and how little drones will matter when the operator is targeted on and off base along with their family.

      1. avatar GiggleSwitch says:

        Also, drones really haven’t done anything new that the US isn’t already capable of. It only takes a pilot out of harms way. Delivering a huge amount of ordnance with precision, is something the US has been easily capable of since Vietnam.

        1. avatar LarryinTX says:

          That’s the truth! I watched a 2000 lb bomb impact the turret of a tank. Most astonishing, there was no evidence that anything had happened other than a circle of ground without trees, not even a crater, since the tank protected the ground immediately beneath it. I’m sure, if you were on the ground, you could find bits and pieces, but from the air there was nothing big enough to recognize as man-made.

        2. avatar possum, destroyer of arachnids says:

          Cratered that bitch like the moon and didn’t do a lick of good. MCGA the last major communist country in the world, America sanctions the sht outta Roosia and everything I buy in the States is Made in China. That’s why the USA fought ( and lost) in NKorea and Nam. ?????

    2. avatar Missouri_Mule says:

      But I’m sure its Donald Trumps fault, I just checked the Drudge Report and the Mueller Report was all that is all that was on there.

  2. avatar Marty says:

    And yet the socialists in our own government cannot or will not see the truth. They are too stupid to see the same would happen in our country as what happened in all other countries which turned to socialism. “America is different” they say. Yea, right.

    1. avatar Sam I Am says:

      “And yet the socialists in our own government cannot or will not see the truth. ”

      “What we have here is a failure to communicate”.

      “It” just can’t happen in America…unless it becomes necessary to remove an existential threat to society, and then it will be different here because suppression will not be a power play, but an unavoidable requirement to restore peace, safety and fairness for the children. Things are different here because socialists in Venezuela are corrupt, unlike the socialists in the US.

      Get your mind right.

      1. avatar Marty says:

        Socialists in America are not corrupt? AOC was barely sworn in before congressional watchdogs found she had illegally transferred campaign funds to her boyfriends business. Biden blackmailed a foreign government who was investigating his son, if they did not fire the prosecutor in his son’s case, he would withhold billions in US money. They fired the prosecutor. I could go on and on. Don’t even try and tell me American socialists are not corrupt. That’s ‘brain dead’ thinking, or not thinking at all.

        1. avatar Sam I Am says:

          “Don’t even try and tell me American socialists are not corrupt. That’s ‘brain dead’ thinking, or not thinking at all.”

          You are overthinking the comment.

        2. avatar Marty says:

          Maybe I am, so please spell it out for me.

        3. avatar Sam I Am says:

          “Maybe I am, so please spell it out for me.”

          “fairness” and “for the children” are clues. Not to mention dialogue from “Cool Hand Luke”.

        4. avatar EWTHeckman says:

          Sam likes to play devil’s advocate. He’s really good at it.

        5. avatar Marty says:

          EW, sorry, I reply to what I read. Not very good at reading between the lines.

        6. avatar Huntmaster says:

          Yeah, like Bernie’s wife didn’t drive a College into bankruptcy and almost an Archdiocese before jumping out of the plane with a golden parachute.

        7. avatar Dennis Sumner says:

          Funny how that doesnt get much press,isnt it?

        8. avatar Sam I Am says:

          “Funny how that doesnt get much press,isnt it?”

          You mean just like all the corruption in Biden’s history that doesn’t get reported?

          (here’s a report; you decide)
          https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2019/04/30/bidens-history-of-lies-family-scandals-and-corruption/

        9. avatar Eli2016 says:

          “It” just can’t happen in America…unless it becomes necessary to remove an existential threat to society, and then it will be different here because suppression will not be a power play, but an unavoidable requirement to restore peace, safety and fairness for the children.”
          “Things are different here because socialists in Venezuela are corrupt, unlike the socialists in the US.”

          In general, you are correct. It would take an extreme set of circumstances for a Venezuela-type happening here. Socialist in the US are “corrupt” only in the sense that their greed wouldn’t accept having their homes in Malibu torched. Likewise for the Keyboard Kommandoes on these pages. That said, a perfect storm of assassinations, coup’s and multiple tragedies at various events could turn the tide. Children often act without thinking. Dragline (George Kennedy’s character) though an adult had the mind of a child.

      2. avatar B.D. says:

        Get fucked you troll.

        1. avatar Sam I Am says:

          “Get fucked you troll.”

          Don’t see you are being laughed at?

          Slow down and read the comment again. The clues are all there.

      3. avatar flyingcoyote says:

        YOU BE FULL OF SHIT

        1. avatar Sam I Am says:

          “YOU BE FULL OF SHIT”

          You be too full of yourself. Read the input slowly, skimming the surface is not an admirable skill set.

    2. avatar uncommon_sense says:

      Marty,

      As we stated on the related topic of Venezuela today on another post, Socialists and Progressives most likely expect exactly this to happen and are most likely looking forward to it because they figure:
      (1) They will control police/military.
      (2) Only police/military will have firearms.

      1. avatar Sam I Am says:

        “(1) They will control police/military.
        (2) Only police/military will have firearms.”

        (3) Encourage enemies of the state to self-identify openly so they can be easily eliminated.

        1. avatar Political gristle says:

          4) They control the media, what you see, hear, and read. With that they control the majority of the sheep; good luck fighting a civil war against the progressive left totalitarian propaganda machine.

      2. avatar Marty says:

        Well, I can only hope they are thinking wrong. Most law enforcement I know and worked with would never work or take orders from a socialist. Just look at what is happening in Portland, OR today. A lot of the city officers have left the department. Two Sheriffs who normally aid the city police as needed, but both of those sheriffs have ordered their deputy’s not to get involved with policing the city unless and only if it is an officer needs help call. The Portland city mayor and council are socialists and have little respect for their law enforcement officers. My point is, it’s not going to go down as the socialists think it will. I don’t have such insight into the military, but I have talked with many of the Guardsmen here in my county. They think as I do, and have told me they would all quit the Guard, including the commander, if they were ordered to take firearms away from the residents.

        1. avatar LarryinTX says:

          Correct, Marty, but that is because the revolution is not yet upon us, because we have not yet gotten rid of those pesky firearms in private hands. Once that is done, all those right-thinking LEOs you refer to can be simply fired, whereupon the noose can be tightened at our leisure.
          For literally years, now, every lunatic or terrorist who kills somebody with any weapon gets the same squealing appeal for national firearm registration (UBC), so that confiscation can begin. Because they’re stupid, right? They are nowhere near stupid, and every action is logically predictable.

        2. avatar Marty says:

          Larry, I agree that’s what they want, but I still don’t believe it’s going to go down as they wish. How are they going to take our guns away? Will it be martial law? I read a study from a major university, can’t remember which one, a couple of years ago. It concluded it would take 75,000 troops just to to take over the city of Seattle. Yes, non confirming LEO’s could be fired, but that would probably be a lot of firings. Most agencies today are terribly under staffed, what would these agencies do when a good percentage of manpower are now fired? They certainly wouldn’t have personnel to go around taking our guns. Unlike other countries which took citizens guns, America has been gun owning since the country was formed. Guns are part of our culture. It won’t be so easy as it was in the other countries. You’ll probably say, they will just do it a little at a time, as they have been doing. I think those days are behind us. With one more Trump appointment to the Supreme Court, it will have a solid 2A majority, with or without Roberts.

        3. avatar Joe says:

          What is to stop a crooked government from bringing in UN troops, if/when U.S. military personnel and/or local and state law enforcement, to start confiscating weapons? The UN sure as hell would have no problems with getting rid of “pesky gun owners”, when LEO’s will not.

        4. avatar Marty says:

          My guess would be anything in blue would become a target for a whole lot of folks. It’s wouldn’t be like having to fire on our own military.

        5. avatar LarryinTX says:

          Marty, Seattle is already under their control, without a shot fired.

          And, yeah, the UN doesn’t want to come here, other than to take over the UN headquarters (welcome to it).

        6. avatar Marty says:

          LOL, absolutely correct.

        7. avatar flyingcoyote says:

          The Guards, Law enforcement, and last but not lest the Military can not confiscate civilians firearms. Violates the BILL OF RIGHTS you see, as well as the oath all these people took. That means, if any of them try, they can be shot as criminals.

        8. avatar Sam I Am says:

          “That means, if any of them try, they can be shot as criminals.”

          Only if you are on the winning side of the revolution, and alive after.

    3. avatar 1Patriot says:

      So Marty…
      How much does Soros pay you an hour?
      Just Trolling and vomiting liberal a.k.a. Communist talking points?
      You know all us patriots are laughing at you.

      1. avatar Marty says:

        Socialist?? Soros? What you been smoking? That’s the only way you could come up with that comment. Sober up and re read my comments.

      2. avatar flyingcoyote says:

        Perhaps you’ve mis-read Marty.

        1. avatar Marty says:

          Coyote, tell me, how in the hell can I misread being accused of supporting “Soros” and being a “socialist”?

    4. avatar Joe says:

      Socialists here WANT gun control because they know its easier to control a disarmed populace

      1. avatar Marty says:

        Yup, and that’s why they will lose. They don’t have the votes to change the Constitution, I doubt they ever will. More of a reason we freedom loving citizens need to stay on top of what happens with the vote to prevent voter fraud (yes, it’s real). The best reason to fully support Trump. He will probably be able to nominate another judge to the supreme court and if re-elected, maybe 1-2 more. We have to keep the senate in 2020.

    5. avatar The Crimson Pirate says:

      They absolutely see the truth. The SOCIALIST government and military are the ones with the guns. Those sick and tired of socialism are the disarmed. That is exactly what the socialists here want.

  3. avatar Cloud says:

    SwallowsWell probably wondering why Maduro hasn’t just nuked these pesky protestors yet.

  4. avatar Shire-man says:

    It’d be nice if the anti’s had some come to Jesus moment here but my guess is any anti that comes off as remotely in favor of gun ownership is only doing so as it would apply to some proletarian revolution and at their first post-revolution chance they’d eagerly disarm that very same proletariat promising the newly installed party of the people will watch over them.

    Anti’s are commie authoritarian fetishists.

    1. avatar SAFEupstateFML says:

      Damnit stop being so insightful and cognizant of history I almost had a glimmer of hope for my neighbors down the Hudson. Ah well yet another potential scheme to watch for.

  5. avatar Biatec says:

    The replacement for maduro is the same thing. Most of them are socialists. Nothing will get better even if they get rid of maduro.

    1. avatar LarryinTX says:

      The riches belonging to foreign investors were promised to the citizens in exchange for their freedom, eagerly accepted. Just as happened in Cuba decades ago, a crew of eager and accomplished killers does not govern well, and the country enters the spiral circling the drain. The new guy *we* are supposed to support is an avowed Socialist trying to take over from a solid Communist, the people protesting are simply demanding their long-promised free stuff, could not care less about freedom or a day’s work for a day’s pay. As a nation, we need to BUTT OUT!!! Buy Charles Darwin a free one-way ticket to Caracas, shut down communications, and watch the country burn from orbit. Which will be accompanied by the same thing happening in Cuba, possibly elsewhere.

      1. avatar Dennis Sumner says:

        Before or after we grant half the population political refugee status and escort them across the border?

      2. avatar Sam I Am says:

        “The new guy *we* are supposed to support is an avowed Socialist trying to take over from a solid Communist, the people protesting are simply demanding their free stuff, could not care less about freedom or a day’s work for a day’s pay.”

        Naughty, naughty. Oh the hubris in exposing the truth: two dung beetles fighting over crap.

  6. avatar Jim Bullock says:

    Let’s see…

    “Socialism” does a poor job of making n distributing stuff, n services. Coordination by people mainly skilled at making speeches works poorly. People inclined toward power tend to take care of themselves. And great piles of authoritah and loot attract people who want authoritah and loot.

    When it starts to slip away, the folks who never had it so good and can’t do much else, hang on any way they can.

    There’s any number of outside bad actors in the world who will stir a distant the pot, prop up a foreign mess, or both, because chaos n destruction over there benefits them. They don’t care how many people die from under-stocked hospitals, to keep their convenience in place.

    And the people crushed by these others have the voice n means they can muster. Pleading doesn’t help. And they have no standing as people with rights, in the people’s councils.

    So, the world is at it always has been. Taking people’s ability to do, and fend for themselves ends as it always has.

    The answer to “Why do you need arms; we’ll take care of you.” is “Why do you care if I’m armed. Do right by me like you say, and they’ll never come into play.”

    Our own U S Rep Nuke-em missed the point. Arms n abilities are precisely so citizens can tell a government that’s become more parasite that co-op to sod off.

    Venezuala’s people lost the option to go full-Cartman and check out.

    If only anybody had seen this before…

  7. avatar Dennis Sumner says:

    I’m assuming he’s already been fired!?

  8. avatar Joe says:

    No man is more dangerous than the one who has nothing left to lose. Indeed, the Venezuelans truly have absolutely nothing left to lose. Americans should sit up and take notice, and take notes. Which sadly, they will not, because they self-righteously assume “it will/can never happen here”. This is what happens when you enact that Socialism you are so in love with, and then get rid of the guns you so detest. Makes for a nasty combination when SHTF.

    1. avatar Dennis Sumner says:

      You’re right! They refuse to see. Bernie told them he could make it work and they believe him. Fools!

      1. avatar LarryinTX says:

        The same thing has been promised, ever-increasing free stuff, at least since Social Security, Bernie just took a bigger leap than most, and since it worked so well for him, we now have positively HUGE leaps (Green new deal and medicare for all, etc) leapfrogging Bernie in the attempt to impose a dictatorship just as soon as possible.

    2. avatar Victoria Illinois says:

      That’s what “Art of War” taught me. Smart guy, Sun Tzu

      1. avatar Joe says:

        I have this book, as well. A very slim volume, mind you, but packed page-to-page with very knowledgeable and interesting information, that most certainly would apply today.

  9. avatar Dyspeptic Gunsmith says:

    The USSR used to use small arms exports to destabilize countries. That’s what made the AK-47 what it is now – the small arm of every socialist mudpits of the world.

    We should find a way to airdrop M-4’s and ammo into Venezuela.

    The added benefit would be to give the socialists here in the US a serious case of the vapors.

    1. avatar Stephen M says:

      Agreed, especially since my backyard just seceded and is now part of Venezuela

      1. avatar LarryinTX says:

        Damn straight! If they’re going to be dropping select-fire especially, I demand in! But I don’t think the people are willing to participate in a shooting war, they just want the free stuff. Like France, for example. If the U.S. is invited to participate, it will be in order to provide the free stuff. IOW, they would just sell the M4s.

    2. avatar Garrison Hall says:

      Ollie North is looking for a job. I’ll bet with a little work he could come up with some smugglers willing to do a little gun running into Venezuela . . . Wouldn’t take much at all to make a big difference. There’s nothing like an armed populace to offset a tyrant.

  10. avatar CalGunsMD says:

    The second amendment does not guarantee a method of food procurement or rape prevention.
    It secures a potent political check on the ambitions and apetites of government.
    When you see it that way, the only question that remains is why some would willingly cede that right…..

  11. avatar Timothy Toroian says:

    Aren’t you glad our revolt was fought before the era of dodging heavy armored vehicles as well as rapid firing guns? Trump should tell the Russians, Cubans, and any other foreign entities in Venezuela that them having any troops there gives us permission to intervene. Especially the frigging Russians. Text a copy of the Monroe Doctrine to Putin.

    1. avatar Big E says:

      I agree with you about the trouble-makers- but REALLY hope the US doesn’t intervene militarily.
      Help & equip Venezuelans to overthrow the Commies themselves? Sure. That often doesn’t work out either, but beats having GI’s embroiled in Urban and jungle warfare in effing South America. I say “Yankee stay home”

      1. avatar LarryinTX says:

        Absolutely agree, 1000%. Not one American life. I would agree to nuke them into the stone age first. Shit, it just struck me, it wouldn’t even take one nuke to return Venezuela or Cuba to the stone age, they’re both at the threshold right now.

  12. avatar possum, destroyer of arachnids says:

    Second Amendment: Maybe it could have been done 60 years ago but any uprising revolution of We The People would be squashed like a bug now.

    1. avatar WARFAB says:

      The battle plans change a little bit when the insurgents have direct access to the people giving the orders. It wouldn’t be pretty, but it sure as heck wouldn’t be like another battle in the sandbox.

    2. avatar LarryinTX says:

      You might believe that, but if the government did, it would have started already.

    3. avatar Big E says:

      ok, I’ll bite. Why is that?
      A little math might help- US Population: 325,000,000. VERY conservative estimate of gun-owners: 30%= 97,500,000. Total number of police in the US at all levels: 850,000. Military at all levels: 1,300,000.

      So if even 5% of gun owners decided to ‘resist’ it would be ~5,000,000. I suggest 5 million US citizens actively fighting the man would cause our society to collapse.

      You might be right if everyone met in Kansas for a massive final showdown, but that ain’t how insurgencies work. See Iraq/Afghanistan for recent examples. Replace IED’s with accurate small arms fire and you get the idea.

      1. avatar jwm says:

        Except that Iraq and Astan shared borders with countries that supported their rebels/freedom fighters/terrorists. Can you see Canada or mexico giving aid and sanctuary to American freedom fighters?

        If the military is not on our side here there is little hope of an armed rebellion doing more than turning America into a wasteland.

        1. avatar strych9 says:

          The geography of the US is different but offers an entirely different set of problems and opportunities. That list is almost endless.

          On top that at least 1/3rd of the military would simply refuse to kill/help kill other Americans right off the bat. Even if they’re all POGs the loss of that logistical capability still greatly limits how effective combat units would be. I mean fuck, we’re way behind on a lot of maintenance as it is, losing a third of the guys and gals who fix tanks and planes would cripple us.

          Then there’s the fact that the total enemy forces in Astan never really numbered more than 200,000 and usually not more than 100,000 and we’re talking many times that number here. That increase is combined with the fact that here, in the USA, what logistics are still running can be disrupted in a way that fighters in Astan can only dream of AND we can reach out and touch US military bases in a way that those fighters couldn’t even start to dream of. In Iraq, Saddams forces totaled out to about 492K and we wiped them out with ease, then came getting bogged down in an insurgency, which is what you’d have here, that never really fielded more than 75K-80K people. Sure, we smashed the Iraqi military quick, but that war went on for almost nine years, and really, is still going on to some degree.

          If we can’t deal with, let’s just make sure we’re generous, 250K people fighting us in some shithole for a decade how the fuck is the military going to deal with millions of people fighting them when the military has to deal with massive rates of desertion, loads of theft and an enemy that can actually reach out and touch them in their home bases?

          I don’t make predictions other than to say that this would be bad, very, very bad for the country. I certainly wouldn’t predict a winner. But I would strongly suggest that the idea that the military would easily squash a rebellion of that size in this country is an overestimation of the government’s capabilities in the real world.

        2. avatar Eli2016 says:

          “I don’t make predictions other than to say that this would be bad, very, very bad for the country. I certainly wouldn’t predict a winner. But I would strongly suggest that the idea that the military would easily squash a rebellion of that size in this country is an overestimation of the government’s capabilities in the real world.”

          Maybe, maybe not. You’re forgetting the insanity of the left (and the right for that matter). The people who own those homes in Malibu would have no problem paying the military to dismantle any form of rebellion. Through force or otherwise. Human nature is such that really anything could and probably would happen. That “right-wing” neighbor you have would probably settle for a couple hundred shares of Apple stock and turn completely against you. I respect your comments but the military could be far more dangerous than any rebellion POG’s could think of.

      2. avatar strych9 says:

        “Replace IED’s with accurate small arms fire and you get the idea.”

        Why would I assume that Americans would fail to utilize an available and effective technology?

        I wouldn’t. Plenty of people in this country can build and IED and can also shoot reasonably well so this isn’t an “ether/or” hypothetical.

  13. avatar Johannes Paulsen (sarcasm) says:

    But…but…if the government has nukes, all they’d have to do is use nukes and put down the uprising! Like if the Venezuelans had nukes, all they’d have to do is nuke Caracas and problem solved, right?

    Oh. Wait a minute….

    1. avatar User1 says:

      The government enforcers have bananas and machine guns. The people are disarmed and starving (just like the statists like it).

  14. avatar Chris T in KY says:

    Socialist are Evil people who smile a great deal and speak in a calm voice. They do this when they take your civil rights away.

    1. avatar Chris T in KY says:

      BTW
      It’s the Communists who scream and yell when they take your civil rights away.

      1. avatar LarryinTX says:

        Socialists just take all your money, in order to fund the transition to Communism.

        1. avatar Chris T in KY says:

          ya, they do that too.

    2. avatar John in Ohio says:

      The NRA keeps asking for money while doing it.

  15. avatar Sam I Am says:

    Glad you found the underlying thread beneath the obvious sarcasm of my comment. Your comment is enlightening for many.

    Hope you enjoyed the exercise.

  16. avatar Rocketman says:

    This is exactly why Gun Control must be resisted at ALL LEVELS. There’s only one reason for the “reasonable step” of gun registration and that’s eventual confiscation and there’s only one reason for confiscation and that’s slavery.

    1. avatar Marty says:

      Rocketman, I couldn’t have said it any better.

  17. avatar User1 says:

    Free speech and protests have very little value when you don’t have an AK-47 or AR-15 in your hands. You will just get run over by the government (figuratively and literally).

    Owning a modern rifle, in and of itself, is a protest.

  18. avatar pwrserge says:

    Q: “Why do you think people should be able to own rocket launchers?”

    A: “So the next jackass who thinks he can run over a bunch of protesters in an MRAP gets a very warm wake up call.”

    1. avatar User1 says:

      I hear the police of Venezuela have been militarized. They are the GNB [a national police guard] and their motto is something like “Honor is your uniform.” If they didn’t have military equipment they couldn’t do their job of enforcing the law.

      America needs to continue militarizing their police to stop all the leftists and Muslims. The police need MRAPs, helicopters, machine guns, thermal vision, etc. Without all this equipment they can’t enforce the law against a bunch of rock throwing Antifa. America should also nationalize/federalize the police force like Venezuela did. They can combine all the police departments with the National Guard, Coast Guard and Homeland Security. Then the Democrats will never be able to take over the country.

      1. avatar pwrserge says:

        I have no problem with police having anything a civilian can legally purchase. Sadly, SWAT teams are a necessity when dealing with the likes of MS13 and other narco-terrorists. Where I start to have a problem is when it’s illegal for me to own something that the police get issued.

        1. avatar User1 says:

          I know a simple solution: stop out lawing drugs. That will help America and countries south of America. Yes, America might have a different kind of problem: addiction. But that is less of an issue than gangs and a militarized police state. We can teach kids why not to do drugs, but we can’t teach the government to not go tyrannical.

        2. avatar strych9 says:

          Issued using your own tax money too.

          That’s always been the kick-in-the-balls-while-you’re-down for me.

        3. avatar pwrserge says:

          I’m less concerned about the occasional police incident than I am about turning the rest of the country into shitfrancisco. What happens when you let the druggies do what they want? You wind up with the streets covered in used needles and piles of human shit.

      2. avatar marty says:

        User, Nationalize the police forces? I’m sure you’ll be much happier in Cuba. Go there and don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out of America.

  19. avatar GS650G says:

    When they smugly tell you a guy with an AR is no match for the military remind them of a few things. Like the military consists of people not robots who are unpredictable. And armies need support systems which in a civil war are disrupted. At the end of the day the aggressors put their head on a pillow like anyone else.
    Maduro will get it in the end too. It’s a matter of time.

  20. avatar strych9 says:

    “An armed populace can resist a government that becomes tyrannical.”

    I’d be careful making blanket statements like this. A disarmed populace can resist too as Venezuela is proving right now. The questions are how effectively each one can resist, how they compare to each other and if the armed populace would have acted as a bulwark against the implementation of tyranny in the first place.

    So, I wouldn’t make such a statement by itself because if Maduro falls sans significant outside assistance to the protesters, this week or next or in the relatively near future in general, then this statement gets turned into a gun-control argument where the antis say “See, you don’t need guns if the government comes after you” and point to Maduro as an example of exactly why gun-confiscation doesn’t matter in terms of freedom of the overall country. Then this becomes another “Let’s make fun of the gun nuts” statement just like a good guy with a gun.

    People will say this is splitting hairs but those are the same people who will gnash their teeth, wail to the sky and rend their clothes (in other words, post angry comments on TTAG) if Maduro falls and this becomes a pro-gun control argument.

    Nuance and caveats. They’re things. Use them.

    1. avatar B.D. says:

      as with most statements you make on this website, you could not be more incorrect.

      The point is that yes, unarmed citizens can resist…. but how many will die because they are unarmed? It’s not a “blanket statement”… it’s people using the only thing they can, numbers. When the military has guns to control the numbers, the outcome is very much still in the control of those in power.

      1. avatar strych9 says:

        Normally I’d take you to school on this but I’ll just give you the primer in this case because I’m sick and tired of you stupid fucks arguing that why we’re losing doesn’t matter and forming a circle jerk pity party when we do lose. The willful incapability to examine the reasons for losses is nothing short of astonishing.

        So, basic English:

        “An armed populace can resist a government that becomes tyrannical.” is what is known as a GENERALIZATION because it lacks reference to a specific circumstance or set of criteria.

        Therefore, because GENERALIZATION is a synonym, that is another term with the same meaning, for BLANKET STATEMENT then the quote I used in my OP is quite literally an example of the very definition of a blanket statement.

        Fuck explaining the rest of the logic. If basic English escapes you then there’s no point in jumping into logic because explaining that would take words you can’t grasp.

        So, now just call me a FUDD or whatever other name you want and get that out of your system so you can return to complaining about how all the other people in the world don’t get it and it has nothing to do with your inability to use basic language skills, never mind actually argue logically or, fuck me, consider the optics of how you’re arguing.

        1. avatar Mary says:

          And the younger adults of our country want socialism. We are the greatest country in the world because we are a democracy not socialism driven. If young adults push for socialism this is what will happen to our country. Be smart and do research so you know what happens to countries that turn to socialism.

        2. avatar Joe says:

          Mary, the United States USED to be a Republic, NOT a Democracy. Do some history reading woman. A Democracy is nothing more than mob rule, which-if you have been paying any sort of attention recently, is showing just how mob-like it can be, and how it is breaking down. Your beloved “Democracy” is going to lead straight to Socialism, because Democracy cannot last.

    2. avatar User1 says:

      I know some people like to say the 2nd Amendment is only about resisting government. That is an oversimplification to argue for long guns.

      The natural/human right to keep and bear arms isn’t just about protecting yourself from a government. It’s about protecting life, liberty and property. Whether those enemies are foreign or domestic. On a collective level or individual level. For the security of your castle or a free state.

      Venezuela isn’t just fighting their government, they are fighting each other. Obviously this is a purposeful situation created by the statists.

      If you don’t have guns, you better hope they have mercy.

  21. avatar Joe says:

    Demoncrats, Demoncrats Uber Ales !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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