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Online polls are about as scientific as astrology. Especially ones posted on partisan websites like Especially ones posted on partisan websites in the middle of an article that betray a strong bias. And yet a poll posted within the article Moms Demand Action goes after supermarket chain Kroger with ads yields a surprising result. As of 11:49 am CMT, 80 percent of 18k respondents clicked “Yes, it’s a Constitutional right” when asked “Should shoppers be allowed to carry handguns in Kroger.” [In case you’re wondering the poll prevents multiple replies from the same IP address.] If they’d asked “Should shoppers be allowed to open carry assault rifles in Kroger?” the number may have been reversed. Anyway, it just goes to show . . . something. Something good for gun rights. Feel free to add your vote, while you still can. [h/t CS]

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    • just added my yes to KROGERS Poll

      ADD THIS POLL to your voting
      Should children be allowed to learn to shoot guns under adult supervision?
      OODAloop says:
      September 5, 2014 at 19:39

      So if y’all are up for polls, on the CNN site

      ( there’s one in the lower right-hand corner asking “Should children be allowed to learn to shoot guns under adult supervision?” It’s currently 50%/50%, so go tip the scales…

      current standings 6pm pdt fri

      Should children be allowed to learn to shoot guns under adult supervision?
      No 50% 857
      Yes 50% 845
      Total votes: 1702
      This is not a scientific poll

  1. Kings used to be crowned by the Bishop/Cardinal/or Pope, to attach their Authority to God.

    Your authority is already attached to GOD, you don’t need a poll, nor MSNBCyoulater, nor. . .

    Kroger can take your freedom away, but not your Liberty (earned freedom). You have to carefully consider your financial (or other) support for someone [something] that would do that.

    • Grocery store. MDA has been harping on them for accepting state firearm laws as their store policy (something almost every chain does)

    • You’ve probably seen one of their subsidiaries.

      I was going to copy the list from the link here, but damn, they have a lot of them.

      The good news is that Kroger’s gun-friendly corporate policy should apply to Fry’s, Fred Meyer, QFC, etc., not just stores with a Kroger logo out front.

  2. Maybe now, just maybe, people will start to believe me when I keep harping that WE ARE WINNING!

    I know the situation sucks in Hawaii, Coastal California, Cook County (Illinois), New York, New Jersey, Maryland, Massachusetts, and Connecticut (okay, maybe Rhode Island as well). The situation is totally different in the entire rest of the nation.

    Let’s keep building on this momentum!

    • And the anti-gun boards and groups are free to do the same (and I am certain they are already).

      You know, except for the ones that can’t read. This also prevents them from understanding such things as the constitution.

    • A poll isn’t supposed to be scientific. It’s an opportunity for people to register their opinion. There’s no science involved.

  3. I’d vote if there was a Kroger anywhere near me.
    I’m not surprised by the poll either. We are winning. Even in Cook County,Illinois. Maybe I’ll see some of you in Riverdale Illinois tomorrow. Right now we are having a SEVERE thunderstorm. Flooding to follow…

    • You SHOULD VOTE On PRINCIPLE Regardless of them being in you area. It COULD BE a store in your area next.

      STAND UP (POLL UP) and BE COUNTED! ! !

  4. Its now 81%……………………
    They, Moms just don’t get it.
    Stay out of a Businesses business.
    Post a poll and you takes your chances.
    Im sure this wont be published anywhere the public will see it.
    While Im all for Open Carry since we don’t have it here in Florida,
    Holstered handguns yes, rifles not really. Unless ones actually going some place where its use is accepted universally.
    I know its a contradiction. But too many people are frightened the more one sees open carry of long arms.
    My opinion only but if your not inclined to accept open carry as “Normal” seeing more of it wont change most anti folks minds

    • Most antis have the “Gunz eevil” idea firmly lodged between two brain cells, and they’ll take that to their grave.

  5. So, hopefully, if Kroger gets pushed agains the wall on this, they will act differently from Starbucks and Target, and won’t issue a statement asking not to carry any guns in their stores, but only not to carry long guns in their stores. It is important at least for the open carry of handguns to continue to be normalized.

  6. The MSNBC poll only allows a choice between two responses:
    Should Kroger shoppers be allowed to carry handguns?

    * Yes, it is a constitutional right.
    * No, it is a threat to public safety.

    The correct answer is “None of the above. It should be up to Kroger, and Kroger alone”.

  7. I bet those fat, hairy, liberal “mom’s” are just stewing in their own sweat looking at those numbers! That’s ok by me, I love seeing ’em eat a big ol’ shit burger as often as possible!

    • They are just continuing in their denial saying “Hijacked” and blaming all those “gun boards.” So I wonder which reason they would give as to why their groups can’t do the same:

      – Not organized enough?
      – Don’t care enough?
      – Too few of them?

      One good thing about these polls is that, though unscientific, they are less susceptible to an overzealous minority drowning out the majority than general media coverage.

  8. Done. 82% and 3/4 comments in general discussion are pro-carry. Even the progressive groups have people saying its common sense, gun free zones are target zones, etc.

    Kind of interesting- have to look at the survey focus but if its among MSNBC viewers then its a remarkable indicator of general opinion shifting towards 2A rights, vs MDA gun – grabbers.

  9. What a waste of time. Why does anyone even bother with a web poll anymore? It literally measure nothing more than who is better at manipulating scripts.

    • I’ll bet you refuse to tell your children about Santa Claus, too.

      An image of Leonard Hofstadter’s Mom springs to mind.

    • Sounds more like sour grapes to me Grindstone.

      What scripts to manipulate? Pretty easy yes/no question

      Do you support the carrying of a weapon in a public place? Yes or no.

      Now, 83% says yes. And we are not talking about a gun web site, we are talking “mainstream” ie, liberal progressive news site you can get.

      • “Now, 83% says yes. And we are not talking about a gun web site, we are talking “mainstream” ie, liberal progressive news site you can get.”

        Sampling bias.

        If you don’t think the votes on this poll aren’t being significantly skewed by people on websites like this, online gun forums, etc., linking to it. then I have some swampland in Florida I’d be interested in selling you.

        Is the average American as anti-gun as the mainstream media would have you believe? Of course not. I’d argue that the people who are seriously motivated and active in restricting gun rights are a rather small, but very powerful and well funded minority. That said, throw up this poll on a huge website of like-minded gun owners like, and you’ll skew a poll like this overnight. There’s FAR more active online communities dedicated to firearms and shooting then there are online communities where people are sitting around discussing how to restrict gun rights.

  10. It’s at 84% now. It may not be scientific but it does seem that the anti gun groups can’t get the vote out unlike the pro gun forces. Politicians may want to think about that.

  11. Up to 87% now. And yes, it will always depend on how the question is asked. Probably those in favor of open carry in most states would be much lower or may even go the other way. But, I am happy with this poll for now. Hoorah!

  12. Online polls, especially those found on biased websites like, can be as unreliable as astrology readings . It’s crucial to approach them with a healthy dose of skepticism, especially when they appear in the midst of an article showcasing a strong bias. Just as one wouldn’t base important decisions on astrological predictions, relying on such polls for accurate information might lead to misleading conclusions.

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