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Moms Demand Action and Mayors Against Illegal Guns’ Big Budget Bloody Shirt Fest Flop

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5SOMuP8rqg

The above video is co-branded Moms Demand Action (MDA) and Mayors Against Illegal Guns (MAIG). As we pointed out previously, MDA is fast becoming the public face of gun control in America. No surprise there. The crusade for civilian disarmament is based on emotion rather than facts, logic or reason. Moms tug on hearts. Mayors do not. By the same token, Moms don’t have big bucks and Mayor Bloomberg does. This kind of agitprop costs real money. Also worth noting: the ad doesn’t promote any specific action. Speak out now? The average gun control supporter needs a lot more motivation and direction than that. Thank God they don’t get it.

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Robert Farago is the former publisher of The Truth About Guns (TTAG). He started the site to explore the ethics, morality, business, politics, culture, technology, practice, strategy, dangers and fun of guns.

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  1. And of course the comment section is locked down as always. “We want to talk about limiting the second amendment while ignoring the first exists, because our opinion is the only one.”

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  2. Don’t forget, the whole purpose of this is to jump on the next tragedy while the victims blood is still warm. Expect something along the lines of “we told you this would happen so do something now (without thinking)”.

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  3. Funny things happen when socioeconomic stressors are relieved. Domestic violence and child abuse decrease, substance abuse and theft decrease. Desperate people do desperate things, and if you treat the problem (poverty) rather than the symptoms (criminal gun use, drugs, prostitution, etc.,) things get better. As an educated man who has studied sociology, psychology, history, and criminal justice, I notice none of the reform programs that have worked include disarming the populace. Some of the farthest right 2nd Amendment supporters bitch about crime and call for a hardline against it without acknowledging the seeds are sown in the economic divide we have created in our nation. High crime, low income areas should be aided to boost growth, but in the interim gun buybacks should be replaced by helping to arm the innocent impoverished against those who cast their lot with a criminal lifestyle. If Scruffy McDirtbag thought the old fart in the Caddy at the corner had a piece, maybe his car-jacking days will end and he will look for other means of income until the new factory opens.

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    • We’ve been “aiding” these enclaves for decades, and it doesn’t work.

      See my comment several below – nothing will work but the return of working-class jobs, the types of jobs that used to make these places thrive, and kept young men and women out of trouble with money in their pockets to boot.

      This cannot be done without a serious look at how our foreign trade economy operates.

      These people cannot be expected to live on McJobs, and I don’t mean increase their minimum wage, like so many are pushing for. I mean serious tariffs on Chinese goods, and abandoning failed agreements like NAFTA.

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  4. Regarding William Dong – campus threat! OMG!

    Huffpo sucks… they censor everything. Maggots.

    http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b578/john_smith96/huffpo%20sucks/huffposucks_zps6f664ad9.jpg

    He told cops he was going to the range.

    Look here:

    http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/University-of-New-Haven-Issues-Shelter-in-Place–234260111.html

    But lets wrap some felonies around him so he can get his gun rights taken away. US as gun owners and 2A supporters should definitely compromise more on this matter – laugh.

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    • There have been a few school shooting since Newt they have been a mix local gang banger who go after other gang members on school grounds knowing there enemy is likely not armed. Personal shootings were 1 person was going after another. Etc.

      The few newt like ones have been meet with better security so they weren’t usable by the Gun grabbers in waving the red flag so they were barely reported.

      Thanks
      Robert

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  5. IMHO… The best possible training you can have is mental training on how to GTFO FAST. Fast means knowing what’s coming which means PAYING ATTENTION! Call it condition white, brown, platinum…. whatever, most people seem to have no idea whatsoever what’s happening 5 feet from them at any given time.

    Stupid people, stupid places, stupid things.

    If you’re in an area where people look at you like you don’t belong there you most likely don’t want to be there anyway.

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  6. Say what you want, it’s a pretty good commercial in terms of pulling on heartstrings… we need that ad company working for our side!

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  7. The fact that Bloommidget is willing to spend large quantities of his money on this crap just goes to show how committed the far Liberal Left is to disarming The People so they can impose their Socialist Utopian Dreams on us. They don’t notice that Europe is retreating from Socialism, or that Red China has become prosperous by allowing Capitalism and Individual Free Enterprise, nor do they remember how the Soviet Union could never make a washing machine that worked for more than a year because the alcohol-sodden Proletarians working in the factories could neither design or fabricate a decent product.

    Unfortunately, Bloommidget won’t run out of money very soon…your wealth and mine get “redistributed”, but somehow his remains intact….funny thing.

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  8. FACT-At least 50% of all gun crimes including gun murders are committed by black males.(In certain cities such as Chicago, Gary, Youngstown, Charlotte, Miami, Birmingham, Oakland, St. Louis ect. that percentage can be as high as 80%)
    FACT-The percentage of black males in our total US population is only 7.5%

    And remember, the 50-80% does not include suicides, justified killings, police killings and accidental deaths. Just MURDER. So when we deconstruct the 30k a year killed by firearms to only include MURDER the numbers go down to like 3,500 a year.
    3,500 a year murdered. In a nation with over 320 million people, with over 400 million firearms, a melting pot to boot, and we have on average only 3,500 real gun murders annually. Of which 50-80% of the 3,500 are committed by black males.

    Where is the problem? Those numbers are fantastic! The only issue when looking at the numbers this way is the 50-80% black male crime, because without it we’d only have about 700-1700 actual gun murders annually. But both numbers to me are more than acceptable for the privilege and right to live in thee last powerful nation on earth that gives us the right to bear arms.
    Gungrabbers like Piers and others always use the examples of UK, Australia, Germany or other nations with no gun rights or very restricted ones, all of which has populations much less than ours, and they use these bogus stats and compare them to the US which is a nation that cannot be compared to any other with any issue.
    The list of school, mall and spree/mass type shootings is what stirs the in minds of the citizens the most. Much like jetliners crashing and killing everyone aboard they tend to be so dramatic that most forget that about 90 people a day are killed on our roadways. The media and politicians use this to install the fear that these shootings are happening everywhere everyday when in reality they are extremely rare, and totally preventable by allowing nationwide conceal carry and arming teachers and staff who are willing and able.

    The real truth is there is no gun problem in the USA. The only gun issue that should be important is the one about how many politicians are attempting to take the right to bears arms away.

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  9. That just goes to show that grand juries will do whatever the prosecutor wants.

    I can’t see how those charges survive a motion to dismiss.

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    • Yet we are constantly screamed at by the Mom’s of the world that only cops should have guns because they’re “trained.”

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      • No, it is as evidenced by that if cops are this bad, we could only be worse.

        All of this is the first stone wall behind which the NYPD will stand so that the other side of the question will can’t be asked. Was this a justifiable shoot to start with?

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  10. The voice of reason:
    Mariann Wang, a lawyer representing Sahar Khoshakhlagh, one of the women who was wounded, said the district attorney should be pursuing charges against the two officers who fired their weapons in a crowd, not against Mr. Broadnax. “It’s an incredibly unfortunate use of prosecutorial discretion to be prosecuting a man who didn’t even injure my client,” she said. “It’s the police who injured my client.”

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  11. From the CBS report: “…he was finally brought down as people in the crowd yelled at police not to shoot him.”

    “Broadnax was taken into custody after a sergeant subdued him with a Taser, police said.”

    Wow. Interesting circus…as we move ever closer to 1984 and martial law.

    What did Todd Jones say; “trigger pullers”?

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  12. Guns for me but not for thee. What he is proposing is a de facto police state (guns in the hands of the police and military but not the citizenry). Does he really believe that the Founders, who were more than familiar with the tyranny of the state, intended the 2nd Amendment for HUNTING?

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  13. The CCW is a license to be trained in how to carry, deploy and use your concealed weapon.

    No idea where this continuing stream of anti-training sentiments keeps coming from, probably from some people’s inferiority complex.

    If you feel you are prepared to react to a high stress SD situation simply because you can go to grandpa’s gun club, stand still and slowly punch holes in a paper target, good for you.

    No need to continually be disparaging those of us who would rather be over-prepared than under-prepared.

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    • Actually, my concealed permit class was a lesson in the basic legalities surrounding concealed carry, and it had virtually no instruction on “how to carry, deploy and use” a concealed weapon. I realize that was a failing of the particular class I attended, and I have sought out more information since then, but making a blanket statement that a permit is a lesson in those things is patently false.

      I actually had a very similar conversation with my folks over Thanksgiving weekend, because my mom is considering taking a concealed carry/weapons familiarization course. My dad, who has his permit, and got it at a gun show, is a big proponent of the gun show model, mainly because it’s inexpensive and gets all the requirements taken care of in one shot. But like my class (which wasn’t at a gun show), it only covers the basic legalities. I argued against that for my mom, who knows nothing about guns. Instead, I advocated for the more expensive three day class that not only took care of the permit stuff, but also taught her about guns and how they work, in a much smaller class size, and had 2-3 hours of range time (more than just the half-dozen shots you pop off to fulfill the requirements of the gun show class).

      You say the disparaging comes from an inferiority complex, and in some cases that may be true. Some people who can’t afford to drop big bucks on training will often have a “sour grapes” attitude toward that training, i.e. “I don’t need all that anyway, it’s stupid and overkill.” However, it’s also true that there’s a superiority complex that often comes from the other side. There is very often, from the uber-prepared, a subtle “tut-tut” whenever they’re talking about the folks who choose not to go as far as them, as if they’re somehow lesser people because of it. There’s a tiny hint of it in your comment, even, when you say, “If you feel you are prepared … good for you,” but then go on to refer to those people (in contrast to yourself) as “under-prepared.”

      And even you, over-prepared (or just prepared) as you are, can’t deny that a lot of the training that’s offered and recommended as “necessary” is way over the top for the average gun owner. That’s what this post is about. It’s about the folks who sell Advanced Pistol Defense Levels 1, 2 and 3 as absolutely necessary for anyone who carries a gun for personal protection, and those sales pitches always contain the subtle (or not-so-subtle) hint that if you’re not willing to go to this level, you’re a babe in the woods who probably should leave the gun at home and the serious work to the better prepared.

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  14. I think I finally grasped the difference in the two camps you have separated here.

    a: Thinks they have a handle on what is likely to happen to them

    b: Thinks they have aboslutely no clue what will go down, so instead wants to be prepared for anything.

    I tend more to camp B. Statistics and experience are all well and good, but you don’t know what tomorrow will bring. The past is no garuntee of the future. That’s not me advocating plate carriers for everyone, but I do understand the desire to want to know how to use them. You never know.

    Obviously the mall ninja stuff is kind of superfluous, but most of the training I’ve seen focuses on shooting fundamentals and improving abilities that are applicable across different kinds of situations. It’s not so much “Here’s how to 360 no scope the sniper in a mall while blind folded” it’s more “what do you do if you’re on the ground”, “how do you find and utilize cover effectively”. Not saying it’s all useful to your average carrier, but it’s more usefal than snide remarks about it. :p

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  15. Further proof the safest place to stand when the NYPD starts shooting is right in front of the perp.

    I’m surprised these buffoons didnt shoot each other.

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  16. The reason for the charge is very simple–and cynical. The NYPD/City of NY has been sued for damages by the two women who were shot. The City, in order to avoid liability, charges the target of the shootings, fully anticipating that he will be represented by a PD and will plead out. The conviction will be proof that the City is not responsible for the shooting, this guy is, and therefore the City limits or eliminates its liability to the women.

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  17. Yeah, I confess that back in the day, when I was shooting bullseye competitions, I was a geardo. But I was young and impreshionable back then, I’m smarter now (and have less money he he he).

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  18. I can only imagine the mentality of a NYC liver… “I’m so grateful to live in a city where the government is there to protect me. Sure I may get shot by my protectors from time to time, but it’s worth it to live here where accountability can be shifted to the the next guy.”

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  19. I’ve been hearing about carbon nanotubes for about 12 years, they sound like they could be used for just about everything, from electronics, to spacecraft, and some are suggesting that they can be coupled with nanotech to make, well, just about everything.

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  20. Several things would have come to mind…er…hand before I would have taken a golf club to the Buck.

    Here such deer are issued salvage tags and the driver/home owner can eat said critter. That is also assuming police involvement. First call should be Insurance agent and if they do not need a police report for the claim, don’t get one.

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  21. OMG and also LOL, as much as all of the damage and blood stains really suck for the homeowners.

    This also reminds me of the defensive gun use of the day thread from a couple days ago where we had a little chat about removing blood stains and the response was “just how often are you shooting people in your house to know the best way to remove a blood stain?!?!?” Well… again… there are lots of ways to get blood on carpet, furniture, towels, etc that do not involve anybody being shot haha

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  22. How hilarious.

    Let us review the comic lunacy of this article.

    For one, the apology should be from the family of the killer, if anyone.

    Second-I despise this psycholigcal blight where people who really should know better think that crime can only be comitted with a gun. A Molotov cocktail can be made in any country one sees fit to visit-excepting the prudish Islamic ones- with no permit or background check required.

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  23. This was already solved in this country in 1865.

    Also I don’t think our political field today is anything like what it was in the 1850’s leading up to the Civil War.

    Wars are fought over economic reasons, like our original revolution, and the civil war, WW2 and pretty much every war I can think off off the top of my head. What you might have at some point in the future is wealthy states getting tired of carrying the less wealthy states, and a break up along those lines.

    But IMHO were pretty much in a worldwide pax americana now, so other than some minor skirmish’s I really don’t see much developing at least anytime soon.

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  24. My position has always been largely the same – repeal GFZA, allow teachers with CCW permits to carry if they so choose without fear of political or legal retribution. No need to make it mandantory or anything, just an option…a wise option, IMO, but still an option. There’s no pleasing the ninnies out there anyway.

    As for the terrorist attack (or spree shooting) scenario, I have to agree with getting out of Dodge whenever possible, but this also depends on the age of the students and other localized factors. A high school student would obviously be smart enough to find a safe secondary location and contact parents from there, but needless to say a 5 or 6 year old would not Educate accordingly.

    Tom

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