Irresponsible Gun Owner of the Day: Savannah Ramirez

What goes better together than partying and drinking all night to ring in the new year, followed by some early morning Facebook portraiture with your pal’s pistol? Savannah Ramirez will be thinking about that question for the rest of her life. Judging from the photo above, holding guns to their heads seems to have been a favorite pastime of Ramirez and her brother Manuel Ortiz. Except on Tuesday morning, when Savannah thought it would be awesome to get a snap of her holding a gun up to her brother’s melon, as reports, “it went off striking Ortiz in the head” . . .

Yeah, guns will do that sometimes, especially when you pull the trigger. Cue the usual post-mortem hagiography:

One friend who wanted to remain anonymous said she wanted to remember Ortiz as a ‘kind, funny guy he was’.

‘He was a very close friend to everybody. He was just always there and it’s sad because one second he’s here and the other he’s not.’

‘Every time he saw somebody sad or down he would be right there making jokes so you could be happy. Even if he was just having a hard time he was always there for someone,’ said the friend.

The Phoenix po-po aren’t sure if they knew the gun was, you know, loaded. They probably do now. Meanwhile Ms. Ramirez is looking at a manslaughter charge. And the cops are checking into the pistol’s provenance.

Authorities are looking into who owns the gun.

On both Manuel and his sister’s Facebook pages there are numerous shots of them posing with guns and making gang symbols.

It’s always funny until someone gets hurt. Or dead. With the pending funeral arrangements, criminal charges and legal bills, we’re guessing Ramirez won’t need one of our IGOTD trophies to know she’s earned the title. [h/t Tyler Kee]


  1. avatar JPD says:

    Let me see…..gang signs……..facebook pics with guns to head………..ownership of gun, possibly in question. Well, duh….one less gangbanger to commit a gun crime.

    Looks good from here.

    1. avatar Mark N. says:

      My exact conclusion when I first read this story. Not only the gang signs (as shown in the picture published) but the age of the two persons involved would tend to indicate lack of legal ownership. Someone ought to have put up a sign: “Danger! Darwin at work!”

      1. avatar AlphaGeek says:

        It’s also nice to see the return of IGOTD after the last very intense couple of weeks. Even better that it’s a spectacular two-person effort instead of the usual solo performance.

  2. avatar Thomas Paine says:

    1. All guns are always loaded. Even if they are not, treat them as if they are.
    2. Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy. (For those who insist that this particular gun is unloaded, see Rule 1.)
    3. Keep your finger off the trigger till your sights are on the target. This is the Golden Rule. Its violation is directly responsible for about 60 percent of inadvertent discharges.
    4. Identify your target, and what is behind it. Never shoot at anything that you have not positively identified.

    1. avatar Sanchanim says:

      Maybe he was aiming at his sister, through his head??
      Yeah pretty much threw all four rules out the windows didn’t he????

    2. avatar duke nukem says:

      im pretty sure they never followed this rules it useless to point them

      1. avatar Kat says:

        I’m pretty sure gang bangers & gang banger wanna be, don’t know gun safety rules.
        It’s not taught in school, should be but not. Doubt all schools even teach children what to do if they find a gun.
        Surprised no PSA on gun safety.

  3. avatar Sanchanim says:

    Ouch.. Talk about a headache!!!

    1. avatar duke nukem says:

      im pretty sure after that close of a shot there would be no head to feel pain lol

  4. avatar Ralph says:

    Forgive me if I don’t stop to mourn, but I’m deep into rearranging my sock drawer.

    On the plus side, the collective IQ of Arizona just increased a wee bit.

    1. avatar Sanchanim says:

      Dude you must have A LOT of socks!!

    2. avatar AlphaGeek says:

      One can only hope that the “victim” exited this plane of existence before propagating his genetic line.

      1. avatar William says:

        Keep hope alive!! But what are the ODDS?

      2. avatar LTC F says:

        Much as it is sometimes necessary to fertilize the tree of liberty with the blood of tyrants, sometimes it’s necessary to dump some chlorine in the shallow end of the gene pool.

        1. avatar Kelly in GA says:

          We have a winner! Chlorine in the shallow end of the gene pool! Awesome!

      3. avatar OakieDoc says:

        Natural Selection at its finest….I give you the 2013 winner of the Darwin Award.

        1. avatar AlphaGeek says:

          You’ve gotta be kidding — we’re only 3 days into the year. It’s pretty much guaranteed that someone will come up with an even more spectacularly stupid way to opt out of the gene pool in the next ~360 days.

    3. avatar Gregolas says:

      And the collective IQ of his ultimate destination just declined.

      1. avatar AlphaGeek says:

        Pretty sure I won’t have to worry about seeing him in Valhalla.

  5. avatar Milsurp Collector says:

    It appears the 21st century youths’ idolization of the so called “gang culture” is doing its job well. This girl was a moron, as was her brother. Why anyone would trust someone else to hold the muzzle of a firearm against any part of their body for a photo shoot of all things is beyond me. Keep on thinning, gene pool, keep on thinning.

  6. avatar CT Guy says:


    1. avatar Rad Man says:

      You beat me to it. Natural selection in action!

      1. avatar Ralph says:

        The Warriors! Best movie of the ’70s. Can you dig it?

  7. avatar TheSleeperHasAwakened says:

    F-ing morons!

    A Nomination for the Darwin Award might be in order.

  8. avatar OkieRim says:

    Good shoot?

  9. avatar Gov. William J. Le Petomane says:


  10. avatar OkieRim says:

    Also, did these 2 morons produce any offspring?

    1. avatar Sanchanim says:

      You mean with each other?? EEWWWW!!! 😉

      1. avatar CA_Chris says:

        The evidence suggests they are stupid enough to commit incest, or to be the product of it.

      2. avatar jwm says:

        Oh man! You had to go there! I gotta go gargle now. Get this bad taste out of my mouth.

  11. avatar Jeff the Griz says:

    Oh no another example of the dangerous “assault pistol” shooting someone. I wonder if it took a high capacity 30 round magizine… another reason why the fight to keep our arms is so hard.

  12. avatar Casey T says:

    Why would anyone who values their life actually point a gun at their head? How stupid can you be?

    1. avatar Ralph says:

      That’s one mistake that is completely self-correcting.

    2. avatar duke nukem says:

      theyre gangbangers by the looks if it. they probaly wouldnt care much for their lives anyway. i say good riddance. one more pest deceased like these is hood in my books

  13. avatar CA_Chris says:

    “Don’t play Russian Roulette with a semi-auto.”

    Oh wait, this isn’t the weekly photo caption contest? I don’t feel sorry for flagrant self-destructive stupidity, and in that I’m just talking about the gang signs. Putting a gun to anyone’s head for a picture is even lower in my opinion.

  14. avatar Brother Bear says:

    Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

    (that’s not mine, I stole from someone… I think it was someone on here to tell you the truth)

    1. avatar O.E says:

      Here’s another

      “Acting like silly buggers will get you buggered silly.”

  15. avatar Becca says:

    Long time no see, folks!

    I’m surprised Mikey the gun-grabber isn’t all over this article. It’d be right up his alley.

    1. avatar Ralph says:

      How did you know that he lives in an alley?

  16. avatar William says:

    These MAGNIFICENT CHILDREN, taken away by another evil gun!!!

    1. avatar duke nukem says:

      too early dude

  17. avatar Paul M says:

    If only she’d caught a pic of the look on his face just as he realised the gun was loaded! Blew his mind! (sorry everyone, couldn’t resist).Play stupid games, you win stupid prizes!

  18. avatar JPD says:

    Just thought of this! We are missing an opportunity to avoid the fiscal cliff! Is there a way we can encourage “all” our gangbangers that it is “cool” to drink and put a loaded gun to their head????

    Think of all the advantages.

    1. Increase in ammo sales. Helping the economy.
    2. Casket sales would skyrocket. Putting more people to work, helping the economy.
    3. Funeral homes business booming. More income, paying more taxes.
    4. Land sales for new cemeteries. More property tax revenues.
    5. All those glocks ending up in you local pawn shop. More quality pistols at an affordable price. More sales tax.

    Is there a down side?

    1. avatar Kelly in GA says:

      You forgot the likelihood of removing people from the entitlement rolls. Decrease spending!

  19. avatar Nine says:

    I’m sorry, but I don’t think he was destined to be the next Edison.


  20. avatar 6 gunner says:

    Gene pool, tiny bit cleaner. Thanks, Mr Darwin!

    1. avatar James says:


  21. avatar Rizzy says:

    Clearly a tax on ammunition and AWB would have prevented this.

  22. avatar Ash. Housewares. says:

    He appears to be a fan of Spikes Tactical.

  23. avatar JAS says:

    Natural selection at work – another genetic cul-de-sac….

  24. avatar jake45 says:

    I want to see the next picture. KaPowie! Gangbanger no mas…………….

  25. avatar Ropingdown says:

    I’ve never doubted that what we need to remove to improve public safety is lots of fingers.

  26. avatar Lance says:

    If we have to ban something Gangster rappers need to be banned not ARs!!!!!!!!!!!

    Luckily if the gun went off there noting in his head to get hurt in the first place!!!

  27. avatar JOE MATAFOME says:

    Paine is right on target and these MORONS learned a really tough lesson.

  28. avatar John Fritz says:

    I just… I just don’t… How in the hell did the trigger get pulled? Even if the gun’s magazine and chamber were as empty as my wallet, you still don’t pull the effing trigger.

  29. avatar TRUTHY says:

    One out of the gene pool, so many more to go……

  30. avatar TacticalDad says:


  31. avatar pat says:

    Alcohol, Weed, and God knows what else must have also been thrown into the mix along with the lack of basic gun safety and guetto horseplay. I do feel a bit sorry for the sister and what she will have to live with as the collective stupidity still was not worth the hellish price these two paid.

  32. avatar Steve says:

    Natural Selection at work.

  33. avatar bontai Joe says:

    WOW! I just can’t figure out exactly how stupid a person has to be to do this. I do have somewhat mixed emotions about this. I feel for the family that lost a loved one. It is a tragedy that no family should have to face. At the same time, I feel that society as a whole is better off, and the more “gangstas” and gangsta wannabees taken out of society, the better the world will get. But I guarantee that this guy will be added to the list of “beloved children” that are killed by “gun violence”. This wasn’t “gun violence”, this was just stupid is as stupid does.

  34. avatar JustAJ says:

    Maybe I’ve just become a callous OFWG, but I can’t bring myself to feel anything except anger that another perfectly good handgun is now going to end up being melted into scrap.

  35. avatar CAGLS says:

    Whew, I don’t have to spend money on lawsuits, ammo, and my gun getting confiscated when they break into my house. Now can we get a group picture involving all of them in the same pose?

  36. avatar craig says:

    if only that gun could have “decided” to shoot her as well…

  37. avatar dan smith says:


  38. avatar Mark says:

    I wonder if that gun was 1) registered, 2) using a “clip” of less than 10 rounds. If so then it really didn’t happen!

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