A certain member of TTAG’s writing stable argued that Cheaper than Dirt should be allowed back into gun guy’s good graces. The company has, after all, resumed the sales of modern sporting rifles, written a big check to the Second Amendment Foundation and joined the industry boycott of New York law enforcement agencies. What they’ve never done: issued a public apology for their post-Newtown withdrawal of AR-15-style rifles from their site and their attempts to disguise the decision as an inventory issue. (What they have done: raise their prices significantly to exploit the sellers’ market.) Until and unless they fess-up, as far as I’m concerned, Cheaper Than Dirt! can pound sand. The ad above? More grist for their new enemies’ mill.
I don’t know what’s more impressive: the printed AR lower or the fact that they had enough ammo to test it.
Pound sand is an appropriate expression to use with CTD.
More Robo emails! No large group supports this crap.
I can’t help myself. This is too good. Please read the article above with this text filter on. http://goo.gl/HQBn3
To answer Mr. Eskow may I paraphrase his argument#1?
I’m not pro-gun-I’m anti-idiot!
Eskow is one of the worst of the crappy hacks who pollute HuffPo. One bright spot of the site is that there’s a large crew of fact-driven pro-gun commenters there who often outnumber the emotional anti-rights commenters.
“Why is it the progressive liberal that steals guns then go and kill movie goers and children in school has never been an NRA member?”
Ft. Hood – Registered Democrat – Muslim
Columbine – Too young to vote – both families were registered democrats and progressive liberals
VA Tech – Wrote hate mail to Pres. Bush and his staff. Registered Democrat
Colorado Theater – Registered Democrat, staff worker on the Obama campaign, OWS participant, progressive liberal
Conn. School shooter – Registered Democrat, hated christians
Common thread here is that all of these shooters were progressive liberal democrats”.
Interesting….isn’t it? Let’s ask the 21st century progressive Nazi, George Soros.
Bruce, you keep saying these articles get too long but they seem to fly by for me. Sun Tzu would call you a clever fighter.
Remember in years gone by when the push was on to make domestic violence a reason to lose your gun rights? Once it was found out how many LEO’s would be barred from owning or carrying a gun because of DV issues the law had to be re written to let them slide. As you know I generally come down on the side of the LEO’s. But this is an exemption which is unjust and unfair. All citizens, regardless of job should play by the same rules.
The boycott isn’t just of New York LE, it’s of quite more… http://www.thepoliceloophole.com
California requires “up to” 16 hours, 8 of which is range time. But the actual ammo usage is only 200 rounds. If I were by myself, it would be at least 100 per hour. I bet Madigan wants the applicants to pay for the police officer time as well. I don’t think this will fly. I would guess the cost, to say nothing of the lost work time, would easily exceed $1000, plus the psych exam. plus plus plus.
What would you be taught if you had to sit in a class room for twenty hours?!?!? Is this much total time even required for POST certification?
http://www.cheaperthandirt.net/product/MAG-074
Nope. CTD can FOAD.
Did anyone seriously trust what this professional liar said before (or now) ?
Cheaper Dirt Bags can FOAD. these price gougers are just as bad as the antis. F**k em.
I wish the NRA would take some of the millions of dollars they have taken in recently and put some of these ads on cable networks where people will actually see them…
I did not know the NRA did ads until TTAG starting posting them
Ooo, this is the second NRA video clip in a row that is actually “with it”.
I really think they should end them all like they did with the Biden one with a message to “come over to the NRA for real gun safety, gun training, and legal information”
That’d be a hell of a catch phrase for their “brand”.
That is a horribly confusing/confused graphic.
You don’t state the premise in white and then have counties opposed to the premise also in white. To make matters worse you have two other variables labels proposed and passed…what? Did they propose and pass “anti-gun laws” – the only premise that has been indicated.
This graphic appears to dispute the entire article on first viewing.
How about we just take 60 billion from the ATF? Problem solved..
99.99% of American gun dealers would most likely go right on obeying the law if BATF were to vanish overnight.
would it be legal to require insurance for a right protected by the constitution?
similar to requiring insurance to protect your goods from unreasonable search and seizure?
OoOoOo maybe this?
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The pro-restriction people look at a 30 round .223 rifle as excessive while a 5 round 12GA shotgun is considered acceptable. In reality a 5 round shotgun with 00 buck shoots out about 9 .330 caliber lead balls per shot giving you a total capability of putting 45 .330 caliber lead balls on target. These 45 rounds before a reload are considered by even pro-restriction people to be reasonable firepower for defense against 2 or 3 life-threatening invaders given that in stressful situations missing is an option.
But all but average sized and strength individuals will struggle with the recoil of shooting these 9 large projectiles simultaneously from a 12GA shotgun. A .223 rifle with a standard capacity magazine grants you the capability of putting only 30 .223 caliber projectiles on target. This is somehow considered by pro-restriction people be excessive for defending against 2-3 home invaders.
While the .223 projectiles from the rifle are indeed going fast enough that they are individually each more powerful than one of the 9 simultaneous .330 caliber shotgun projectiles, you are firing only one at a time this greatly mitigates the recoil problem allowing you to actually aim a string of shots safely. This one-at-a-time feature also enables you to use appropriate force rather than the all or nothing arrangement of a shotgun.
Also the innate physics of the high velocity .223 projectile is such that these fast moving bullets are more readily stopped and obliterated by hard building materials like walls. The larger slower moving .330 shotgun projectiles more readily penetrate hard building materials. This allows for safer use inside homes mitigating over-penetration more successfully than a shotgun.
Since the .223 rifle is commonly loaded with hollow point ammunition for defense the penetration of soft targets is also mitigated, as hollow points are designed to stop inside a soft target rather than going through and causing unintended damage.
Autoloading rifles are also preferable because rather than manually working the action the hypothetical home defender can focus their concentration 100% on situational awareness and determining the status of the threat, and safe shooting.
The barrel shrouds (aka handguards) of these modern .223 rifles are intended as gripping and mounting platforms for things like flashlights and laser pointers so the user can better determine their target and what is beyond and hit it (not miss it and hit something unintended).
The flash suppressors mitigate the night blindness induced by muzzle flash while firing in the dark so that the user may retain the ability to visually judge their target and what is beyond.
The collapsible stocks are intended to be adjustable to various body types so that me and my partner may both comfortably utilize the same rifle for home defense rather than needing to proliferate multiple rifles in that role.
The pistol grip and low recoil make the .223 rifle ergonomic enough to use throughout our entire lives as we age and begin to experience age related physical limitations like arthritis, loss of muscle and bone density, and loss of dexterity.
I think all of these reasons are why so many people are using these .223 rifles in the role which up to this point shotguns were employed, and are pretty valid reasons for making a conscientious choice to do so.
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CTD SEEMS TO BE A SLOW LEARNER. THESE DOPES JUST CAN’T SEEM TO STOP DOING POOPIES IN THEIR OWN NEST. I GUESS GREED IS NUMBER ONE IN CTD’S WORLD!
TOO BAD, AT ONE TIME I ENJOYED DOING BUSINESS WITH THEM.