If you thought anti-gun Illinois lawmakers had already passed just about every restrictive gun law they could think of, well, you thought wrong.
According to a report at sj-r.com, Illinois legislators are now pushing two different schemes. Senate Bill 3971 and House Bill 5891 would prohibit the possession of a firearm outside its owner’s “immediate possession or control” and increases the age to 18 from 13 where “safe storage” in homes are required.
The legislation’s language states that the measure: “Provides that a firearm owner shall not store or keep any firearm in any premises where the firearm owner knows or reasonably should know a minor without the lawful permission of the minor’s parent, guardian, or person having charge of the minor, an at-risk person, or a prohibited person is likely to gain access to the firearm unless the firearm is secured in a locked container, properly engaged so as to render the firearm inaccessible or unusable to any person other than the owner or other lawfully authorized user.”
According to the legislation, if an “unauthorized” person gains access to a firearm, the gun’s owner faces penalties ranging from $500 to $1,000 per violation. If a minor, “at-risk” person or person prohibited from owning a firearm gains access to the gun and uses it to injure or cause the death of another person, un firearms owners could receive penalties of up to $10,000.
While there is obviously nothing wrong with prudent firearms storage, mandating how citizens store their firearms runs afoul of U.S. Supreme Court precedent. In the 2008 case District of Columbia v. Heller, the Supreme Court made clear that the Second Amendment includes the right to keep “any lawful firearm in the home operable for the purpose of immediate self-defense.”
The other proposal, contained within Senate Bill 3973 and House Bill 5888, would further victimize unfortunate gun owners who are the victims of property crime by potentially revoking their Firearm Owner’s Identification Card (FOID) if they don’t report the theft within 48 hours.
“If a law enforcement official determines that a person has failed to report a lost or stolen firearm as required by Section 24-4.1 of the Criminal Code of 2012, then the law enforcement officer shall, within 24 hours of making the determination, notify the Illinois State Police that the person has failed to report a lost or stolen firearm,” the measure states. “The law enforcement official shall notify the Illinois State Police in a form and manner prescribed by the Illinois State Police. The Illinois State Police shall determine whether to revoke the person’s Firearm Owner’s Identification Card under Section 8 of this act. Any information disclosed under this subsection shall remain privileged and confidential, and shall not be redisclosed, except as required under Section (e) of Section 3.1 of this Act, nor used for any other purpose.”
In the aftermath of a burglary or robbery, victims are occupied with a host of concerns, the first being the safety of their loved ones and themselves. It is unacceptable to place an additional burden on individuals during this time of hardship, and laws that do so are simply criminalizing gun owners for the illegal activity of criminals preying upon those gun owners. Additionally, a 2018 survey of firearms studies conducted by the Rand Corporation found no research demonstrating lost or stolen reporting laws produce any desirable outcomes.
These measures could be heard by the state legislature as soon as the six-day veto session set for Nov. 12-14 and Nov. 14-19.
Oh this bs will pass. IF you are an ILLannoy resident I suggest you have 1 or more hidey gats accessible only by you or an authorized user. And move like we are. Meanwhile FOURTEEN shot in Chiraq last night mostly younguns🙄😧
Up end we are already in court for similar laws in NY so you may have some non-binding precedent when your organizations go about fighting this.
They continue to push this legislation they KNOW is unconstitutional as ruled by the SCOTUS for the simple reason it buys them anti-gunner votes and…
THERE IS NO PENALTY FOR DOING IT.
Cliff H,
I agree.
Note that policy makers will also push detrimental policies simply for evil “thrills”.
(Several weeks ago I mentioned @$$holes on beaches who get-off stomping on young children’s sand castles: some of those very same @$$holes become policy/law makers.)
As long as Gun Control zealots can discriminate without any viable pushback they obviously won’t stop. And by the same token as long as Gun Talking blowbags fail to Define Gun Control by its History for a Gun Control History illiterate voting America the clown show will continue.
And by the same token as long as Gun Talking blowbag Debbie W. fails to define evil people by their actions to punish their political enemies regardless of History, her clown show will continue.
P.S.
I am still waiting for Debbie to provide any evidence that her “strategy” will yield significant gains. One example of compelling evidence would be where Debbie W. wrote an op-ed, suddenly droves of people cited her op-ed to elected representatives and demanded that they repeal civilian disarmament, and those representatives then repealed civilian disarmament laws. Another example of compelling evidence would be where attorneys used Debbie W.’s argument in a lawsuit to overturn civilian disarmament laws and the court cited her argument as the reasoning to overturn said laws.
Of course requiring evidence that a hypothetical notion will work is what rational people do.
And it is equally obvious that irrational people will lash-out at people who fail to worship their unsupported hypothetical notions.
“Rules for Radicals”
4. “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” ….You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules.
13. “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” …isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.
With “the Left” it isn’t about making a statement, then moving on, it is about constantly pounding a position until you win.
Debbie keeps pounding rules 4 and 13; most of us are one and done, an American liability that longs for solving a problem, and going back to what was.
Yep, all the bl.a.c.k s.i.n.gl.e m.o.th.e.rs in S.h!!c.0n.g.o that let their s.paw.n access the switched Glock that her soon-to-be-new b.a.b.y d.a.d.d.y left by the bed are going to be arrested and charged under this law.
Not.
California has had a law for quit some time imposing fines and even felony time if a minor gets hold of a firearm and someone is injured or killed, so nothing new there. The law is not unconstitutional.
NOR IS THE MANDATE THAT A GUN BE KEPT SECURED WHEN NOT ON ONE’S PERSON; such laws do NOT violate Heller. The law in Heller required the gun to be disassembled and kept in a locked container, with ammo kept in a separate room, also in a locked container. I don’t recall the full case name any longer, but San Francisco enacted an ordinance the same as Illinois, requiring that firearms be secured when not in one’s immediate possession (and this applied even to persons and places where no minors were present or expected to be present). The Ninth Circuit upheld the ordinance and the Supreme Court declined review. Later, LA enacted a similar statute, and now the entire state has done so. Since a gun in one’s immediate possession can be kept loaded and ready for action, Heller is not violated.
That’s a lot of bullshit.
However reporting a stolen firearm immediately is a good idea.
A person wouldn’t want a serial number coming back on you if a firearm was found at a crime scene.
That is not true 90% of the time.
The serial number is only matched to a person at the time of purchase from an FFL.
All subsequent transfers by private sale, inheritance, or gift generate no record of a serial number or name.
My AK-47, That I bought in California 25 years ago, was found at a crime scene in Pennsylvania.
The FBI sent a letter to my current address in Florida asking if I had any ownership interest in that gun.
I had sold it to a buddy 10 years ago.
Who knows how many hands it had pass-through in the meantime.
All you have to see is WHO or WHAT is committing the crimes with guns. Look at the makeup of those committing the crimes. I rest my case. These animals are the scum of the earth and always will be.
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