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Supporters watch as Democratic presidential candidate former Vice President Joe Biden and former President Barack Obama speak at a rally at Belle Isle Casino in Detroit, Mich., Saturday, Oct. 31, 2020. (AP Photo/Andrew Harnik)
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Joe Biden isn’t the type to let ignorance get in the way of drastic action. Like most politicians, he’s boldest about banning the things that he knows the least about.

That explains how Biden has rolled out the most aggressive gun control plan in American history — one that would take away most people’s constitutional right to keep and bear arms — while still claiming to support the Second Amendment.

Under the Biden plan, all online gun retailers would be put out of business. Americans would no longer be able to order parts or ammunition online, or even order a weapon to be shipped to a local gun store, the way thousands of Wisconsinites purchase a gun or stock up for deer season. Private sales of firearms would also be severely restricted, and manufacturing your own weapon for private use, as people have done for centuries, would become a federal felony.

It might be comforting to imagine that moderate Democrats or the courts would rein in any attempt to implement a plan like this, but that’s just wishful thinking.

– Robert W. Kasten in Ignorance is no excuse for Biden’s gun control plan

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    • I have the same answer, Tim. It’s all about power. Every single genocide in history was preceded by the disarmament of the target population. In recent times, the Armenian genocide, Russia, China, Pol Pot, Nazi Germany all make great examples. A disarmed people are a helpless people. If they want our guns, it is safe to presume that they want to kill us off.

      Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun – Chairman Mao

      • Perhaps Kameltoe and An Occasional Cortex do plan to go full Khmer Rouge once the “deplorables” are disarmed. But Creepy Joe will have to be removed first. Will it be an unfortunate circumstance of events or a sacrifice for the good of the party?

    • C’mon man…Slavery, segregation, the KKK, lynching, Jim Crow, Eugenics and Gun Control…They’re a democRat Party Family Tradition.

      • Eugenicist Marge Sanger (founder of “Planned Parenthood” 🤣, more like “Planned Racial Infanticide”), was a HUGE fan of Hitlers plans for Germany.
        Leave it to the dimtards to support massive extermination of certain ethnic groups (under the guise of their “planning” for parenthood), then expect support from those SAME groups during elections (going so far as saying “if you don’t vote for me, YOU AIN’T BLACK! 🤪).
        Then topping off this disfunctional cake by pointing at the OTHER political party, and calling THEM nazis, or “literally hitler”. Point one finger, and 3 are pointing BACK at you. Complete morons. 🤣
        Yeah, dimocraps have ALL the symptoms that PROVE they’re suffering from a mental disorder.
        Trump/Pence 2020

        • Well, the English department at Trump University was severally underfunded. Nice try though. Enjoy craft time at the group home!

          Trump/Pence 2020

  1. First, he has to have a headlock on the upper house.

    Job 1 is to deny him that ability…

    • Worst case, we now have ACB on SCOTUS to make for a 5-4 balance (I’m not ever relying on Roberts for that ballyhooed 6-3 people are talking about) to permanently knock down stuff like this.

      • After a case takes 6-8 YEARS to reach them, and then *hope* that it gets struck down?

        Thomas won’t likely be on the court in 6-8 years.

    • Job 1 is to excise the Trump cult of Personality from the conservative movement and the Republican Party. This may or may not succeed, time will tell.

      Once our American Republic is safe from the Trump Cult we can try to rebuild the conservative movement. That’s what Biden represents to many anti-Trump conservatives, a poison pill against the Trump Cult that has brought so much economic ruin and death to our great country, among his many other leadership failings.

      What comes next is seeing who the conservative candidates will be in 2022 and 2024. If they have learned from the Trump debacle, there is a chance that any Biden victory, if he wins this time, will not represent a major shift to a Democratic Party majority in the House, Senate and White House.

        • Yeah, that’d be a lie. It did not convince you to do anything. You are a part of the cult and are going to do exactly what you were going to do before you read what I wrote.

        • At the State level and lower, sure. But nationally? In Presidential Silly Seasons, which we see every four years, the winning party for the White House often sees victories in the down ballot races. While in the mid-term years, the President’s party often sees losses in those races.

      • I’ll be ready to discuss excising the Trump cult of personality, as soon as we have completed excising the Democratic Party and the Democratic Socialist Party in their entirety, and made membership in either punishable by death.

      • The economy has been very good. The shutdowns are what hurt the economy. The Wuhan Virus was not his fault. Regardless of who was in office, we would still be where we are today with how the virus has interrupted life. The last person in office who could have done something more was George Bush. He studied the Spanish Flu pandemic and he was the one who built the national stockpile of PPE that was used and never replenished fully by the Obama Administration. Bush knew it was something that would happen soon because of historical data on pandemic cycles. Anyone else who looked objectively at the data and who has remembered what they learned in Jr High science knew there would be a spike near the fall season. We are not in a bubble in the spike, it has happened world wide.

        Biden is not a cure, nor is the current Democratic Party. The move to socialism, the embracing of Mao by many who support the Democratic Party and the lack of common sense on many fronts shows they are a danger to civilization, the environment and the future of the Republican ideology of our Constitution.

        This Country isn’t perfect, but we have always striven to be better. We have a ways to go, and under the Democratic Party we will fall back 3 steps for every step forward.

        There are no perfect choices in this election. There is only the standard of the lesser of the evils. One evil will change the Country for worse, the other will delay that change and give us time to figure out the next step.

        • Biden is a sick joke, and everyone knows it. You’re either voting for or against Trump. Biden couldn’t pay someone to be inspired by him.

        • You failed reading comprehension.

          I did not critique his entire presidency, I spoke of his pre-planning for a pandemic. His efforts in stock piling PPE was the right thing to do. Do you agree?

          I am for the establishment as laid out by our Constitution. How about you?

        • @FormerParatrooper,
          See if you can figure out who I replied to because it wasn’t you. Hint: it begins with an ‘e’ and ends with an ‘f.’

          I hadn’t even read your comment when I made that reply. When I did read it, I made a separate reply.

      • Almost everything you said was your empty feelings.

        But here is something that you said that can looked at factually “the Trump Cult that has brought so much economic ruin”. The greatest economy in our lifetimes, record low unemployment for every demographic group, and even after China releases a bio-weapon on the world, we just had 33.1% v-shape recovery.

        That is economic ruin? In that case can we have 3 more scopes please?

        Here is a simple question to you enuf (which you can not truthfully answer) if Trump is responsible for the Covid deaths in the U.S. (let’s ignore Cuomo’s and Whitmore’s nursing homes) who is responsible for the Covid deaths in England? In Italy? In Spain? In France???

        We don’t need to excise Trump nor his freedom loving supporters as you so arrogantly suggested. Who we need to excise is foolish people who refuse to see the truth and lie and besmirch to satisfy their own hate.

        Go away now, we have had enuf of your foolish hate.

      • Surprised you are still posting that non-sense…well maybe not.

        You know what is going to happen right? The Will of The People will be clearly shown.

        President Trump will be reelected in a landslide. If the people wanted to support the ‘Never Trumper’ grifters they would….but not going to happen.

      • If you’re a conservative who can’t make yourself vote for Trump, fine. Vote third party or just don’t check any boxes at all. That’s a principled, defensible choice.

        Voting for someone whose political party has explicitly declared its intent to invalidate part of the Bill of Rights is neither principled nor rationally defensible for anyone who claims to be conservative, libertarian, or anything other than a pure “progressive.”

        If you’re voting for Joe Biden, you are NOT conservative or a Republican at this point in time. Probably never were.

        • enuf is an establishment shill allied with the DNC. He’s a pretend conservative just like the Lincoln Project guys trying to flip the Senate.

    • Which is why his current platform is unrecognizable from his previous five decades in office. His political beliefs tend to sway with the momentum of the party. He’s in it to win it for Joe.

  2. Even if Biden loses big time, that doesn’t mean the agenda hits the shredder. There are many others waiting in the wings to carry that flag starting on the 5th of Nov.

    • The only reason Biden was chosen to be former pResident Obowelmovement’s vice president is because he was a useful idiot and he is still the DenoCommies useful idiot.
      In his 47 years in the senate he was known for being the dullest knife and that hasn’t changed.

  3. Bloomberg and Moms…he is bought and paid for by them…
    how about a common-sense compromise? no more gun control for no more abortion control ?
    they are all inclusive until you disagree with them….then you are a racist

    • The amusing thing about that is – gun control has always been about black control. The earliest gun laws on this continent were aimed at black people, and little has changed in 500 years. The strictest gun controls are enacted in cities with the densest black populations. But, Dems try to pretend they are the black man’s friends!

  4. Security apparatuses are nice.
    I like that my car has seatbelts and brakes. Still, I would not drive straight into a tree on purpose.

    Maybe your red, for now, state legislature or the SCOTUS or moderate, as if there are any, dems would step in the path of total rights annihilation for your sake but wouldn’t it be best to simply not drive toward that tree? Brakes do fail after all.

  5. Fidel Castro in January 1959: Free and fair elections are coming soon.

    Fidel Castro in September 1965: Cubans don’t need firearms and starts to disarm them.

    Cuba 2020: No free elections and no firearms, only dictatorship.

    This is the goal of the democrat party.

    • For a couple grand, you and your lady can spend a couple nights in Havana, then come back and tell me how wonderful it was, how we need to emulate it. I know, I spent those 3 nights last year, and after spending some 8-9 of my 74 years living outside the US, I have NEVER been so happy to get home to America, including my return from a combat tour in Vietnam in ’72. It’s right there, take a wee trip before deciding you know all about it and wish to copy their wonderful plan. Moron.

      Not speaking to Hegemon.

  6. He hasnt been elected yet and if at all “rolled out” his plan or even run it up the flagpole. It has been on his website for many months however.

  7. Maybe his agenda is his and maybe it isn’t. This could go either way or be a psychotic stretch both ways.

    Biden is being used as a means to achieve that agenda. He should be under a doctors care. People in his condition have no business mounting ANY kind of political campaign. Much less a presidential run. It is absolutely sickening that so many on the left push him like this.

      • That was the exact same dynamic as 2016. Then the DNC squelched Bernie and went with the ‘safe’ candidate, and look what they got for that effort.

        I’m cautiously optimistic on news I’m hearing from Miami. DNC ground forces are reporting a distressingly weak turnout in early voting numbers. Latinos in particular have little enthusiasm for Biden. Couple that with a strong Trump turnout upstate, and things aren’t looking good for Biden in a state both of them need to win…

        https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/29/miami-voter-turnout-democrats-433643

        • The left seems to always find a simplistic reason why they get their asses kicked, which is never that their ideas are simply stupid and cannot work. Oh, the candidate was too old, or too female, or didn’t visit Wisconsin enough, yada, yada, yada, or people found out the things we were lying about. It is absolutely possible to equalize everybody’s income, unfortunately the point of possible equality is at zero. So, the poorest among us will take a massive cut in income, and everyone else will have that same income. Average annual family income in Cuba is around $300, wouldn’t that be fun? And that’s 60 years after the glorious revolution!

  8. Socialist Dictatorship Marxists Communists ideals seem so grand to the young and feeble voters, as they vote their way in to their idea of a Communist utopia, only to realize that you may vote your way in, but you Fight Your Way Out.

    • “ideals seem so grand”

      They have that going for them as well as Trump fatigue. People are tired of the (media and dem generated) drama. They don’t remember there being so much constant shock reporting when Obama was in office. They think they can just go about their lives without worry if Joe is elected. Half of the country still believes the news, even after the “Russia Collusion” lies and the current “Russia Disinformation” lies.

      Also, is this the first presidential election when they almost never bring up foreign policy? It was a big deal in 2016, why not now? They don’t want to compare and contrast the candidates? I can’t remember, was it brought up at all during the debates and town halls.

      • The idea of “jobs” has always been a main topic aswell. Very little if anything gets said about that unless it’s Trump touting pre-covid successes.

  9. I’m guessing that the author has no idea of how politicians work in real life. In Biden’s case he was more than likely approached by the Bloomberg gun grabbers and the amount of money that would go to the campaign is contingent on how much of the gun grab he was in for. So he went all in and daddy Bloomberg wrote a big fat check to Biden. End of story. To Bloomberg it’s nothing, a couple of tanks of gas in the yacht. How much more difficult can it be to comprehend than that. How much will Biden attempt to push? Well it depends. If everything goes democrat then you can bet they will pull a Virginia gun grab v2 except on a national level. Will *ANY* of these proposals matter? Of course not, but the people behind this are not looking for a specific outcome. They just want control.

  10. Everyone needs to be real clear on what “Will not comply” means. We need to prepare ourselves for that.

    If Biden does win it will only be by cheating and fraud. I will not accept those results.

  11. Radical civilian disarmament is the easiest thing on the radical left’s wishlist for the “moderate”, establishment Democrats to give. Certainly they’re not going to turn on the billionaires who prop them up in social and traditional media by nationalizing their fortunes.

  12. You ask what are the goals of the Liberal/Socialist Democrat Party?
    “Now I will tell you the answer to my question. It is this. The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from the oligarchies of the past in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just around the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now you begin to understand me.”
    ― George Orwell, 1984

    • You have no clue how much it warms the cockles of my cold, black heart to be reminded on a near-daily basis that me, lil’ ole me, is living rent free in your (tiny) misshapen head of yours.

      It ain’t healthy. Ask any mental health expert. They’ll tell you.

      And you’re to stupid to realize it. But please, go right on ahead, seeing your pathetic mewlings puts a big-ole smirk on my face and a *snicker* on my lips that just won’t quit.

      C’mon, boy, keep it up. You’re on a ride straight towards a mental breakdown, and you don’t even realize it, you stupid fuck… 🙂

      • Geoff, did you happen to catch that stuff DUA has posted on Walther Forums.
        Seems he purchased a NATO spec Steyr AUG 20″ barrel w/3x Swarovski optic for his son last year…….
        https://www.waltherforums.com/threads/non-walther-gun-photos.43543/page-36
        I seem to recall someone on TTAG claiming to have purchased an AUG for their son last Christmas. Can’t recall who it was though. 😂
        DUA has a few other firearms shown on that page too. A few DEagles, a P220ST, a POF P308…….
        Damn, imports firearms from Europe? Gives $3k rifles as gifts? I guess DUA understands that living well is the BEST revenge!
        I wonder who this DUA guy on WF could POSSIBLY be. 🤣
        Any ideas Geoff?
        Trump/Pence 2020

      • “I wonder who this DUA guy on WF could POSSIBLY be.”

        Can’t help you, I don’t follow that forum so I really can’t offer an opinion one way or the other…

  13. “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience…”
    CS LEWIS

    • Thank You…I was not aware of this quote. We seem to understand what it is “We the People” are facing. Those Ruled by their Emotions are much easier to Control…Than those who Rely on their Intellect to guide their Destiny. Keep Your Powder Dry…

  14. Don’t act all innocent. No one here can imagine gun rights separately from the rest of the right-center-authoritarian platform. Got to save those fetuses, build the wall, stop socialized healthcare, strip civil rights protections from queers and prevent Christians from being oppressed in Lynchburg VA right? Infringing one bump stocks and silencers is fine if someone with an R after their name does it. Chess not checkers huh? Gun rights are a partisan toy for you drooling zombies and it’s a partisan toy for the other side. Have some self-awareness for once in your lives.

        • Don’t waste your time guys…You should never try to teach a pig to sing…It wastes your time and annoys the pig. The best way to address a Troll. Is not at all. If you ignore them they don’t get paid or even better they don’t get their ego jerked. That’s how they get their jollies, interjecting how superior they are where No one really cares. They are a sad lot living vicariously through the Interweb because, the Real world is to Big and Scary. There may yet be Hope for some of them once they move away from the darkness and join the rest of the Free World in rejoicing the light and all things it makes available. With a lot of hard work and the Freedom to Choose your own Destiny. Peace Be With You but, Never Forget to Keep Your Powder Dry…

        • “Don’t waste your time guys…You should never try to teach a pig to sing…It wastes your time and annoys the pig. The best way to address a Troll. Is not at all.”
          Hardly.
          Trump/Pence is winning by a landslide. It’s time to “poke the pigs” so they dance and squeal for the bloombucks.
          Just a prelude to the post-election day TDS entertainment. 🍿
          Trump/Pence 2020

    • ” Have some self-awareness for once in your lives.”

      And you people are all good, pure of intentions, sweetness and light?

      You’re the far bigger fool, son… 🙂

    • So, Slim, you think you’ve exposed some glaring inconsistency between individual responsibility for security on one hand, and individual responsibility for health on the other?

      Between keeping invading parasites out of our individual homes, and keeping invading parasites out of our American home?

      Between homeowner-murdering burglars getting what’s coming to them, and baby-murdering feminazis getting what’s coming to them?

      It’s one seamless garment. Seems like the only thing you’ve really exposed is your own micropenis to small boys – but I guess that’s a “civil rights protection” that you cherish.

  15. Cali will be close this time. NC.. I’m not counting on, nor MN or CO. PA goes Red though.

    President Trump 321 and reelected…..and the Left will go even more bat-$hit crazy..

    • Judging from living here in NY the left would go more crazy regardless of elections. Hoping NC and MN prove you wrong but those are not bad guesses.

  16. Biden is a bought and paid for puppet. Question is, who has paid him the most and for what purpose? The DEms appear to be leading in the corruption category at this time, the only positive note is the Chicoms are running short of influence buying cash, and the Bidens have burned them at least once already…

    • Russia, Ukraine, Saudis, Iran, the recreational pharmaceutical cartels, Hollywood, tech giants, media services, etc. Some for destabilization, some for gain, and some because they just hate the opposition.

  17. Considering that most Democrats, and a lot of Republicans, and a lot of government employees would all be swinging from a rope if suddenly subject to the same laws as us peasants, then yes of course they want to get rid of privately owned guns.

  18. Re Darkman yes yes but sometimes it is fun to remind them how worthless their job/opinions/beliefs/lives really are and that their efforts match my screen name.

  19. If 150 million gun owners voted #2a how would that help us since only about 130 million vote?

    VOTE! VOTE!VOTE! VOTE!VOTE! VOTE!VOTE! VOTE!VOTE! VOTE!VOTE! VOTE!

    No matter if u think ur state is safe….nobody know that except GOD!

    God Help us from Destruction send the Dems to Hell ASAP!!

  20. Its the Democrats who financially support BLM and Antifa are using guns to destroy gun rights. If you have citizens with guns the left cannot control you completely nor will a foreign country risk invading. A vote for “China Joe” Biden is a vote for a traitor and a sell out. I’m sick of buying cheap crap that breaks in less than a week from China while American jobs and products continue to suffer. Meanwhile Biden rakes in millions from China. Hunter Biden’s laptops has proven the corruption in the Biden family. Ignorant people who still like Biden and China products have forgotten that China will wipe your ass from the face of the earth as soon as they are able to. Libbies lead you to death and destruction because their educated by libby markists universities and by the lame stream media their whole lives. You cannot be an American if you hate America. They’ve sold their soul for money and all Democratic hand outs.

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