More Hunters Wanted: Texas is Losing the Fight Against Feral Hogs

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By John McAdams

Despite years of intense hunting and trapping, Texas is losing the war on feral hogs.

Since the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department (TPWD) first began removing feral hogs in 1982, the hog population in the Lone Star State has dramatically increased and there are now more than ten times as many hogs in the state as there were then. Unfortunately, the evidence is clear: Texas is losing the war on the destructive critters.

Texas has very permissive regulations regarding hog hunting, and hunters may pursue hogs all year long with no bag limit. They may be hunted over bait, trapped, hunted at night and from aircraft. As a result, it’s estimated that over three quarters of a million hogs are taken by hunters, trappers, and TPWD each year in Texas.

Unfortunately, it’s not enough.

Even though hunters and trappers are killing approximately 30 percent of the hog population in Texas annually, hog numbers are still growing by about 20 percent each year. Biologists and wildlife managers estimate that 70 percent of the hogs in the state will have to be killed annually just to maintain current population levels and even more must be taken to actually reduce their numbers.

You read that right: 7 out of every 10 hogs in the state must be killed just to keep their numbers where they are now.

So why are wild hog populations experiencing such explosive growth in this portion of the United States?

The main reason is that hogs breed almost as fast as rabbits. They become sexually mature before they are a year old and can produce as many as three litters of 6 to 8 piglets every year.

Another reason they are difficult to control is because feral pigs are very intelligent and resilient animals. They quickly respond to hunting and trapping pressure by changing their habits or just leaving the area for greener pastures when things get too hot.

Since they are known to roam over extremely long distances in search of food, this makes long-term hog control measures difficult and complicated.

War On Feral Hogs

Landowners and biologists have been relatively successful in controlling feral hog populations in small areas. However, these are usually short term successes that only last until a new hog sounder moves in and the cycle starts over again.

While wild hogs are fun to hunt and provide some very tasty table fare, they cause all sorts of problems. Their diet normally consists of things like roots, acorns, tubers, and other plants, they will eat literally anything they can find or catch. Crops, snakes, insects, ground-nesting birds, and even deer fawns are not safe from a hungry hog.

Wild pigs are a textbook example of an invasive species and are causing significant damage to native wildlife and ecosystems in Texas. In addition to competing directly with deer for food, they damage vegetation that quail and turkey need to thrive. They also are carriers of a number of nasty diseases and there have even been cases of drinking water sources being contaminated by droppings from feral hogs.

War On Feral Hogs

So, we’ve established that Texas is losing the war on feral hogs and that’s clearly a bad thing. However, what can be done about it?

Hog hunting and trapping are already going full bore in Texas. Right now, these operations are taking less than half the number of hogs necessary to stop their explosive population growth and it is doubtful this can be achieved by those with trapping and hunting alone.

Poison has been touted as one potential way to turn things around in the war on feral hogs. However, the use of a feral hog poison on a large scale is a very hotly contested idea.

Among other issues, researchers have struggled to find a poison that will quickly and reliably kill hogs without harming other wildlife. For instance, proponents of hog poison experienced a big setback when nearly 200 birds died after consuming sodium nitrite poison intended for hogs during field testing in northern Texas.

Until a permanent and lasting solution is developed, we’ll have to deal with hogs the old fashioned way: by hunting and trapping them. So, hit the woods and start doing your part in the war on feral hogs.

comments

  1. avatar Gov. William J Le Petomane says:

    Hmm… what kind of income can a professional hog hunter garner in TX these days?

    1. avatar jwtaylor says:

      If you hunt and trap pigs as your only income you’ll make enough to, maybe, scrape over the poverty line. Maybe.
      Everybody I know that hunts and traps professionally has some other income.

      1. avatar Gov. William J Le Petomane says:

        Must not be that big of a problem then. If it were that serious the state would pony up for bounties or just hire hunters outright. If somebody would pay me $90,000/yr to hunt hogs I’d be there Friday morning. (I’d be there sooner but I have to pack up the guns and it’s a 12-24 hour drive depending one where I’m going.)

        I’d be curious what the total annual damage is and how much of that burden is born by the state’s taxpayers. I’m guessing they could find a revenue neutral way to fix the problem if they were honest about the costs of not fixing it.

        1. avatar barnbwt says:

          Add monetary incentives to the mix, and you’ll double the number of hogs & hunters overnight.

        2. avatar Felix says:

          See the Cobra Effect here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobra_effect

          tl;dr — offer a reward for something, and you will get more of it. Basic economics.

        3. avatar Ed Schrade says:

          The problem here is big landowners that will not permit people to hunt and control them so these places in effect turn into sanctuaries , then the hogs get into the public roads and cause vehicle damage and tear up small land owners property.

        4. avatar M1Lou says:

          Ed, that’s the problem I ran into when I looked into hog hunting. People either didn’t want anyone hunting on their land or they wanted you to pay $200-300 to shoot one hog. Thats it, just one. This was about 10 years ago, so things might have changed, but everyone seemed to be out to make a buck, while the hogs were trashing their land. I don’t think that’s a winning plan in the end.

        5. avatar robert Haig says:

          Some areas do pay a per-tail bounty, but it’s usually on the order of $5. Not something you can make a lot of income doing.

      2. avatar Timothy Power says:

        You know hogs do alot of damage every year. If Texas Government would figure out a payment scales that would allow people like me whom are professional hunters to get payed for hunting them. Instead I have to go work in a freezer 18 hours at a time to bearing scape by. I wish I could have that for a full time job. I guess Texas just likes paying out money to replace stuff instead of protecting that stuff.

        1. avatar Arc says:

          People would let them breed for the bounty.

        2. avatar Mark says:

          They need to set up a Bounty System based on Weight. Something similar to what FL is doing to try and get rid of their Invasive Python Snake problem. They pay by the foot and you get to keep the DEAD snake (For Meat, Skin or whatever else) If Hunters got Paid by the Pound and then could sell them to be processed and sold as Wild Meat. That would definetly ramp up the Hunting & Killing of these animals.

      3. avatar Chris says:

        Have a place that I can come down and set up camp for a week or two and I’ll be there.

    2. avatar Knute(ken) says:

      What I’m wondering is if there wouldn’t be a lot of money in it IF one could come up with an efficient, harmless, trapping solution. My understanding is that wild hogs can be sold through the standard livestock yards, IF one can just once get them into a truck. But, like all livestock sales, injured, sick, or dead animals cannot be sold.
      That means if someone could come up with a method to trap them without harm, there are millions of pounds of pork out there that are free for the taking. Also, for whoever might come up with this solution, perhaps millions of dollars in patenting and selling the traps to other people wanting to get in on the freebies.
      Also, with the Chinese now destroying most of their pigs over the African pig flu, the price of pork is set to rise dramatically. A good, efficient, trapping routine in Texas could go a long way towards making up for that. But only if the animals are captured in good enough shape to take to market.
      JWT posted here, and he’s from Texas. Is that correct, or do livestock rings there operate differently from Montana? If one could trap them this way in large numbers, could they still be sold? If so, it wouldn’t really matter whether the landowners or the State would pay you to hunt them or not. The money would be in the animals themselves. With so much damage occurring, I imagine that getting permission from the owner to remove them for free should be as easy as pie.

      1. avatar Geoff "I'm getting too old for this shit" PR says:

        “What I’m wondering is if there wouldn’t be a lot of money in it IF one could come up with an efficient, harmless, trapping solution.”

        The problem is, the hogs aren’t stupid. Unless you get the *entire* sounder, the survivors learn from the experience. Some traps, like drop traps, work better, but they are considerably more expensive.

        Another problem is, the land owners *love* to bitch about the damage they do, but don’t want hunters on their property. (*Clue* – train the hunters what not to do.)

        Well, the problem must not be that bad, then… (Cue JWT in 3, 2, 1…)

        1. avatar Geoff "I'm getting too old for this shit" PR says:

          EDIT – It’s also manpower intensive to watch the traps. Remote systems using cellphone tech exists, but that adds to the cost…

        2. avatar LarryinTX says:

          Geoff, I looked into it a few years back, while I don’t hunt normally, I thought I could help with the killing if somebody else was dealing with the carcasses. At least as far as I could determine, landowners wish to charge around $500 per gun to hunt hogs on their property, just like whitetails. Sorry, that is definitely *NOT* a serious problem, they don’t need my assistance. When they allow hunting for free or even pay for kills, they will begin to see results.

        3. avatar Southern Cross says:

          I know some hunters have been assholes but my friend and I ALWAYS followed the farmer’s rules to the letter.

          One example was a property which we had a good success rate had one primary rule. NO SHOOTING in house paddocks. Before we crossed the grid into the house paddock, we would safe and clear the guns. One night crossing through one of the house paddocks to report to the house on our way out, we saw more pigs than we had seen all day. What did we do? NOTHING. We reported what we saw to the farmer on the way out and he said we did exactly the right thing. This is why we were invited to other properties the next year.

        4. avatar Arc says:

          So far, hogs haven’t crossed under the fences yet. I think they can sense that I would exercise my combat marksmanship skills and mag dump on them the moment I saw them. Not just that, but I’m unemployed and got nothing better to do each night than to sit around and pound their asses with 30 cal.

      2. avatar Knute(ken) says:

        Geoff:
        This is why I’m thinking some new kind of trap is needed. I’m imaging something akin to a large fence, with liberal bait inside, and then some type of gates that they can enter easily, but cannot exit. One could leave this for a while, and then just bring a truck in when lots are caught, and drive them into chutes and onto a truck, the same as one would any other hog.
        This could already be done right now, but the problem is; it would need to be easily and quickly broken down for transport to a new location after each capture. And hogs are notoriously hard on fencing with their constant rooting.
        So this would have to be quick and easy to move around, yet solid enough to hold many rooting hogs in, even if only for a few days. Also, the gates in would have to be designed to not spook the pigs(so large and quiet), yet also be easy to move. I think these could stand to be a little pricey, because they would capture many at a time, meaning the total cost could be amortized over many animals.
        Once some get in and start eating the feed, those ones won’t even want out, at least not until they get full. And all of the happy grunting inside the trap should bring even more a-running.
        But how to do this, and keep it mobile, and yet still strong enough, but still affordable? Even without anything new, individual landowners could still do this on their own property, just with feedlot panels. But after they’re dug in to hold hogs, it sure wouldn’t be very portable any more. They would just have to leave it up all the time. But, as you said, soon the pigs would learn to avoid it, and then it would have to be all dismantled and dug in somewhere else. A big job.
        But there should be some strong, cheap, lightweight, material that’s suitable, with current technology. I can’t see much choice but to dig it in, though, or else they’ll just root under. Perhaps some kind of base pieces, that could be just pressed into the ground with a tractor bucket, perhaps after just digging a small trench with a ditch witch, that feedlot or corral panels could then be bolted to?

        1. avatar Geoff "I'm getting too old for this shit" PR says:

          “Once some get in and start eating the feed, those ones won’t even want out, at least not until they get full.”

          Unfortunately, incorrect. Search YouTube for hog trap videos, and you will see they are *highly* skittish critters. One warning or danger ‘grunt’, and the whole sounder hauls ass outta there and avoids it in the future.

          There’s no easy answer on the problem…

        2. avatar Geoff "I'm getting too old for this shit" PR says:

          This shows how skittish they get :

        3. Theyve trapped them for years with efficient traps. Hogs are tough and dont get injured very often and they’re not real hard to handle loading them. I did it for years. As others stated, if you ask a landowner to hunt you’ll get a go to hell look or they’ll ask a fee to shoot one hog. I dont have much sympathy for them. A friend and I did hog control on over 100,000 acres. We did it for fun. Our schedule was three days on and three days off so our off days we spent riding around blasting away. We shot or trapped nearly a thousand hogs a year. That ended when the ranch decided to lease the ranch in portions to deer hunters. No more hog control. I bet they regret it in the long run. Texas ranchers dont have my sympathy unless they let people hunt.

        4. avatar Larry says:

          Install an electric fence inside the trap afoot or so from the trap fence. Have it activate when the trap falls. Hogs don’t like being shocked.they will stay away from the fence, no more routing.

      3. avatar Chris Mallory says:

        I don’t know what the law in Texas is, but in Kentucky, once a wild hog has been trapped, it cannot be released from the trap or transported alive. It must be killed on site.

        1. avatar Ed Schrade says:

          We have some property beside a creek with a county road fronting the property. There was a person down the road a few miles that was buying live wild hogs but not small ones. People that had hogs left in their trailers that were too small to sell were stopping at the creek bridge and letting these hogs out. now we have the damned thing running around tearing up everything even though we hunt them. They became used to the traps and will not go near them now. Of course there is big land owners on 2 sides so it’s like sanctuaries on 2 sides.

        2. avatar Aleric says:

          Ive been trying to find a place to hunt hogs in KY but no matter who I ask they all give me stupid looks like I was going after unicorns. What counties in KY have open hunts?

      4. avatar Joel (also in TX) says:

        Larry I came to say The same thing. There isn’t a hog problem. There is a land owner problem. They are still trying to make a profit off the hunting….

    3. avatar Dave says:

      You’re assuming you can find a land owner that’s not going to charge you trophy fees to hunt hogs.

    4. avatar Old Hawg says:

      Well, Guv’nah’,

      I don’t know what the hunter might make but I’ve seen some of the prices landowners are charging for the “privilege” of hunting wild pigs on their land and it’s a lot more than I’d pay to hunt an exotic critter instead of something which they have up the ol’ wazoo and which is damaging their property.

    5. avatar Hillbilly from hell says:

      My question is why is this news? And why is this bad thing? Why should we be alarmed? Are the hogs rising up and killing people? Are they occupying resources and oil reservoirs? Are they killing off livestock? Are they pushing for a right to vote?

      No. So there’s a ton of hogs. Big deal. They’re tearing up the ground. Ok, so do ground hogs. I just don’t get the dire warning. At a certain point they’ll hit maximum living capacity and suffer a Malthusian catastrophe and be whiped out by their own success.

      1. avatar Bubba says:

        You clearly haven’t seen the biblical level of damage wild hogs can do.
        They are like a hurricane made of tornadoes full of broken glass…with a high IQ.
        You just can’t kill ’em fast enough.

      2. avatar I Haz A Question says:

        I recall reading an article 20+ years about the westward expansion of the feral hog population, and how it was finally reaching Texas. Now look where we are. Those things breed too quickly for current methods to keep under control. And they’re very destructive.

        I agree with other commenters here who say the problem could easily be mitigated if landowners stopped trying to make money from hunters. Simply charge a nominal fee ($20 per tail or $200 all day w/o limit), and you’ll get plenty of action to clear those critters from your area.

    6. avatar Steve Rizzuto says:

      Texas should open Hog hunting to out of state hunters on a no fee basis. Also, any person over 65 years of age resident of Texas or not should be able to hunts private or public lands without a license.

      1. avatar David Eider says:

        they just did.

        1. avatar Ed Hamilton says:

          no licence need to hunt hogs now. I charge a 100 a day to hunt hogs on my land, Kill as many as you want. The money covers the cost to grade the trails and replenish the feeders. Us land owners do not make make money on hog hunts, but the money is need to make it easier to kill them. I only have a few hundred acres and yes they are a big issues and we can not eliminate them hopefully manage them.

        2. Ed Hamilton how far are you from Houston Texas we will be coming down there on June 2nd to the Md Anderson cancer and we’ll be there for a while and I would like to hunt while I’m there. What all do I need to bring with me.

        3. avatar Brian connorton says:

          I am looking to find a place to hunt hogs in an in Taylor texas hunting hogs with my pulsar thermal give me a call would love to hear from you my phone number is 206 305 1736 . I am old e tough to prefer a phone call. Have a good day.

    7. What I don’t understand is why don’t they put medicine in there food to make them sterile it would make more since. They could go around in a helicopter and drop it where they find the most hogs. There’s a lot of places where people don’t hunt it’s to hard to get to. They could fly over at night and and find them with night vision binoculars and drop the food. With all that’s being killed and them being sterile that would get a better hold on the problem and it wouldn’t cost as much as what there spending for the damage there causing.

  2. avatar Rocketman says:

    Get about 75 or so cattle car trucks and transport them all to Washington DC then turn them all loose. Solve two problems at once.

    1. avatar GeorgiaBob says:

      Sorry Rocketman, that won’t work. Half the hogs will be mistaken for Lobbyists and get paid to hang around the Capital Building. The other half will start collecting AFDC and food stamps while turning out two litters a year!

      1. avatar William Newberry says:

        You nailed it !!

      2. avatar Longhaired Redneck says:

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    2. avatar Huntmaster says:

      Impose a property tax on them.

    3. avatar The Crimson Pirate says:

      That will just add a bunch of pg shit to all the bullshit in DC

    4. avatar Rheopectic says:

      I like your thinking on this…

    5. avatar vaadu says:

      Nancy Pelosi will try to get them on the voter roles

  3. avatar GeorgiaBob says:

    License Free “hog only” hunting and baited pen traps are the only viable options so far, and, as the story points out, that ain’t enough. I would like to see fed rules on suppressors repealed (remove suppressors from the NFA) to give more hunters the option of shooting multiple hogs without the first shot causing a stampede. Encouraging high schools to form hog hunting clubs and training teens to be safe hunters might help, too. Those ideas, also, are still too little.

    1. avatar LarryinTX says:

      Oh, the possibilities are amazing. In TX there are essentially no rules, so far as I can tell. You can hunt from a helicopter, at night, using night vision on a suppressed machine gun, no license required, no bag limit, babies are fair game. Other than high explosive cannon fire I don’t see what else you could wish for. But I am still not paying a landowner $500 a day to help him with his problems.

      Machine guns should also be removed from the NFA, and then repeal it.

      1. avatar Hunter Larry says:

        No hunting restrictions make it very accommodating, but the greedy land owners are making it unaccommodating with their trespass/hunting fees. I’d even pay a FAIR lodging fee in a lodge/bunkhouse since almost all larger ranches have such items. Botton line the hogs can eat the whole state untill the landowners see that they do have a problem & open up to hunting.

        1. avatar LKB says:

          Gov. Abbott just signed SB 317, which drops the requirement of a hunting license to take feral hogs on private property (with landowner’s permission).

          So when this goes into effect Sept. 1, you’ll still need a license to hunt hogs on public lands, but there are so few public land places in Texas where you can hunt hogs as to make the requirement meaningless. For pretty much all hog hunting in Texas (i.e., private land with landowner permission), it’s truly open season on hogs.

    2. avatar tdiinva says:

      Suppressors aren’t silencers. The hogs will still hear the shots. What you need is a semiautomatic rifle with a large magazine. That is why ARs are popular for hog hunting.

  4. avatar Tim says:

    Well we might as well give Nancy about 100,000 and deliver them to san fran…

  5. avatar NORDNEG says:

    I know they have experimented with feeding stations that dispense foods that keep them sterile, apparently that didn’t work. Maybe have hunting tournaments with very nice prizes to attract a lot of participants… or a bounty , that works also…

    1. avatar jwtaylor says:

      Many counties already have a bounty. The going rate is $5 a pig.

      1. avatar FedUp says:

        And what do you have to pay the landowner to let you shoot it, $200?

        1. avatar The Crimson Pirate says:

          If they have a hog problem most will let you do it for free. These animals destroy everything.

        2. avatar jwtaylor says:

          Don’t know, I’ve never paid to kill pigs.

        3. avatar uncommon_sense says:

          FedUp echoed what holds me back. For whatever reason/s, I am under the impression that very few private landowners will permit outsiders to hunt without paying a significant fee to the landowner. Given my significant expenses for travel, lodging, lost wages (for the entire foray), and equipment, the last thing I want to do is shell out even more money.

          Pay me a nominal fee to hunt the hogs, however, and I will be all over it like a cheap suit. (The nominal fee could be something like $25 per hog killed.)

        4. avatar Southern Cross says:

          Downunder when you go pig shooting, you pay for accommodation on the property. About $250 for a week per person usually. A guided spotlight from the farmer may be $50 extra per night, but has a higher guarantee of results. As for pig numbers, as many as you can shoot and you have ammunition for. This is why I take at least 200+ rounds with me when I go pig shooting.

    2. avatar neiowa says:

      Why would you sterilize the bastards? Just kill them.

      1. avatar Eric in Oregon says:

        A sterile hog will still compete with other hogs to mate, potentially taking more breeders out of the population than just killing the one.

    3. avatar LarryinTX says:

      That sterilization stunt was years ago, and for coyotes. I understand it was very successful, but haven’t heard of it for piggies.

  6. avatar Phil Wilson says:

    I won’t kill an animal I don’t intend to eat. Not dogmatic about it, it’s just me. So, is it safe to eat them? I heard something about parasites making it risky.

    1. avatar jwtaylor says:

      They are completely safe to eat. It’s free range organic pork.
      As always, cook your game to a safe temp before eating it.

      1. avatar Phil Wilson says:

        Thanks.

    2. avatar barnbwt says:

      As long as you aren’t taking a bite out of the still-beating heart in the field, it’s not an issue. You cook game animals to neutralize parasites; common knowledge for some 500,000 years, now. Commercial sale of ‘free range’ hogs is banned largely to protect hog farmers (as if there’s a difference, lol), but yes, the presence of parasites & brucellosis in some measure is a significant ‘down grade’ from the standards expected from commercial food-grade pigs, so there is some justification for the restriction.

    3. avatar LarryinTX says:

      Phil, I have seen what hogs do to farmland, and heard about the first litter at 8 months old, plus walked on a 3-inch carpet of pecan shells covering more than an acre, where the hogs had consumed probably over $100,000 worth of nuts. That landowner told me his ethics went right out the window, take the shot at 500 yards and don’t even care whether you wound the animal, shoot them all! The threat from hogs is very different, apparently.

      1. avatar Phil Wilson says:

        Thanks. I get shooting pests for control when that needs to be done, and am not going to wag my finger at anyone for doing it. I just don’t have much taste for it myself.

    4. avatar James W Crawford says:

      Does this mean that you are a canibal?

      Kill the pigs, gut em, skin em then make bacon and ham out of them to feed the homeless.

  7. avatar barnbwt says:

    Well maybe if they’d let us poison the damn things…

    Oh, and make it illegal to charge money to hunt them; that’d dry up the supply so fast our heads would spin. There’s a whole industry of providing land and resources for commercial hog hunting (overlapping with commercial deer hunting to a large degree, in that both are sustained in ridiculous numbers by automatic corn feeders). Banning the sale of deer corn would also dry up the supply overnight.

    “But muh cheap gamey venison!”
    “But muh hog bacon!”

    1. avatar jwtaylor says:

      There is tons of evidence to contradict your hypothesis. Hog populations have flourished and grown outside of areas where hunting is common. They are extremely common in suburban neighborhoods.
      Banning the sale of deer corn would have absolutely no effect on hog populations, other than reducing the opportunities to kill them. Deer corn is not the majority of their diet, by any means. Agricultural crops often are.

  8. avatar Bloving says:

    The Number One reason more people like myself aren’t out there every weekend killing as many pigs as I can get my sights on?

    Because I don’t want to have to pay several hundred dollars for the “privilege” of shooting a property owner’s pests.

    Texas property owner’s love to whine about how terrible the hogs are but then are reminded that a few people might be willing to shell out money to come fix the problem for them. That’s fine – as long as there are a never-ending line of paying hunters out there to keep the pressure on the pigs. But there are only so many people with the time and resources to do that. And they aren’t going to be doing it every weekend either.
    You own property with pigs and want some help getting rid of them? Try not charging folks to do your pest control for you.

    1. avatar TrueBornSonofLiberty says:

      I made a similar comment below. I guess these landowners aren’t feeling the urgency they claim to be. Otherwise they’d be encouraging out of staters to come on their land and do them the favor they desperately need.

    2. avatar jwtaylor says:

      “Try not charging folks to do your pest control for you.”

      We don’t. Our friends and family hunt for free. Random people we don’t know roaming around our land shooting everything that moves? We charge for that.

      1. avatar Rule.303 says:

        @jwtaylor: Then landowners need to kwitcherbitchin about being overrun by hogs. There are contracts or agreements that can be drawn up between landowners and hunters spelling out exactly what can and cannot be done on the property as well as penalties for stupid behavior.

        If the friends and family are not enough to keep the hogs down, you can’t be bothered to get a lawyer draw up an enforceable contract between you and strangers who want to hunt, and you can’t find the time to walk the property with them to clearly explain what they can do and where, then I have zero sympathy for you and other landowners who share your views.

        I agree that there is very little public land to allow non-landowners to help knock back the hog population. That means the burden of the hog epidemic is on the private landowners. If they won’t allow people who want to hunt on their land without charging an arm and a leg for the privilege of helping control a dangerous and invasive animal, then they deserve all the hog-based damage they get.

        1. avatar jwtaylor says:

          Enforceable contract? How much of a bond are you willing to put up prior to hunting to be released to me if you shoot my livestock? It had better start at 20k at least.
          Ok how much do you owe me for shooting one of my kids?
          Take time to walk the property? Are you serious or just that ignorant? At 800 acres I am a small landowner.

        2. avatar Defens says:

          I appreciate your concerns JW,. Rancher friends of ours in Oregon were pretty selective about who they gave permission to hunt deer on their ranch. It was a constant battle to keep off the trespassers and/or vandals, while letting friends hunt.

          But then, our friends weren’t complaining about herds of feral deer eating up all their wheat, either.

          If the feral issue is as bad as claimed, then landowners need to come up with a solution. Charging a big entry fee still doesn’t guarantee that a hunter is safe. I hunted – once – on a fenced property outside of Austin. Not only did several of the fee-paying hunters scare the crap out of me with gun handling, but so did the landowners! The whole thing was a joke, and although I’d love to drive from Washington down to Texas again to eradicate some porkers, I’m not going to pay big fees on top of that.

          A contract is still binding, no matter how small the value exchange. Maybe the state can issue a voluntary hog hunting license that includes a liability insurance policy to cover any landowner’s damages. Say $20/year. Landowners could still let folks hunt for free, but only allow strangers that have the insurance/hunting card.

      2. avatar LarryinTX says:

        JWT, you “charge for that”? Why the hell would you even ALLOW that? I suspect exaggeration, sir, if that behavior is what you expect your land would be closed to hunting. Gouging strangers is, of course, acceptable to me, but making unlikely excuses in order to do so is unseemly.

        1. avatar jwtaylor says:

          That’s exactly what I did, close the property to any Hunters other than my friends.
          For other folks who have to set up specific places for hunters to hunt, safe lanes and fencing, as well as deal with hunter safety issues, charging them to hunt is completely reasonable.

        2. avatar Erik Eveland says:

          I agree it is “reasonable” to charge people, after all it is YOUR land. It is also reasonable for others to point out that the issue can’t be THAT drastic if you set the entry fee so high it precludes many hunters.

          If I want to get rid of rats, but expect the exterminator to pay me, I shouldn’t be shocked if no one is lining up for the privilege.

          BTW, I’ve only hunted hogs in Florida, Georgia and Missouri, never Texas. If it was my land I wouldn’t let some random schmucks on my property- but I wouldn’t whine about it either.

        3. avatar TrueBornSonofLiberty says:

          But if the infestation is as bad as most say it is, and as a land owner was serious about eradication (they’re not), then it would behoove you, (in an effort to mitigate the legitimate concerns about allowing public hunters on your property), to supply (free of charge) an escort/guide to accompany their hunts. Heck, it could be a friend or family member. But these landowners won’t do it because they are too greedy to pass up charging outrageous prices for folks to hunt their land.

      3. avatar BeoBear says:

        In Oklahoma theres a program set up that insures landowners, at no cost, against any damages if you allow people to hunt your land for hogs. It’s gathering dust. The state even set up a program so landowners with a hog problem and folks wanting to hunt hogs could sign up and meet each other to initiate one helping the other. In the 5 or so years it’s been in place it has a long list of folks wanting to hunt and not a single landowner. The liability issue is covered by the state here and the ability for hunters and landowners has been set up so what now?

        I get it, it’s difficult to trust people in this age but it used to be second nature for those of us who grew up in the country. How times have changed. As long as the people with the land and the hog problems turn away hunters, try to charge large fees and lease their property to commercial hunting companies (who don’t control hog populations as they claim and instead trap and buy trapped hogs to maintain high hunter success numbers) the hog problems will only get worse.

        One of the best things the state’s should do is outlaw commercial hog hunting organizations. They are making huge money while keeping the hog populations high.

    3. avatar Quasimofo says:

      I have read this same complaint at other sites: that the TX landowners may be their own worst enemy when it comes to pig management due to charging for access. I’ve never had a farmer in PA charge for access to their land to hunt deer, groundhogs, and other pests when I get permission from them. Just seems odd that this wouldn’t also be the case in TX of all places.

      1. avatar LarryinTX says:

        I had a pal who bought his own little piece of property in TX because hunting permits were so expensive, and that was in 1975! Until then I had never even heard of paying to hunt.

  9. avatar TTAG says:

    Hunting feral hogs only educates them. Missouri Conservation Dept. takes a dim view of hog hunting and strongly discourages it. They have shown that hunting hogs will not eradicate or control hog populations. They have been very successful in trapping whole sounders in eradicating hogs on pwners’ property. Hogs tend to migrate north from Arkansas into southern Missouri counties where MDC takes a strong line on them.

    1. avatar barnbwt says:

      But that’s not fun or profitable…

    2. avatar neiowa says:

      Killing them doesn’t control them. Unless the State does so? Some logic there I’m missing.

      Texas – turn in 5 hog tails and get a new Magpul with 50rd of 5.56 or 450. The ONLY meat welfare deadbeats can get is processed hog.

      1. avatar LarryinTX says:

        Is that true? Damn, I am proud of my state!

  10. avatar TrueBornSonofLiberty says:

    For those out of staters who’d like to come for a week and put the smack down on Wilbur and friends, the sad reality is that there’s very little public land. And it seems the private landholders don’t seem to feel the urgency this article portrays. They see feral hog hunts as another source of income, one they aren’t the least bit bashful about charging dearly for. I’m sorry, but if the article is accurate (that’s a rhetorical question), then I’m the one doing them the favor at my considerable expense, which includes taking time off, airfare, lodging, ammo, etc. When the biggest expense is hiring a “guide” to hunt your land, I’ll take a hard pass. If I’m paying for that, I’ll seek out more exotic critters.

    1. avatar skoon says:

      Sounds like florida. 300 bucks a pig and no one wants to let you hunt private. Theres got to be a happy medium somwhere. 30 bucks a pig?

    2. avatar jwtaylor says:

      I hear this line often, exclusively from people who do not own land for agricultural use.
      What you are asking us to do is to allow strangers onto our property to start shooting. Think about that for a minute. Myself, and just about everyone I know who let folks they don’t know well onto their property to shoot pigs have ended up getting their homes, their barns, and their livestock shot. I have had all three happen on my property.
      To hunt pigs effectively, the hunting need to be mobile, and it needs to be done at night. So now you are suggesting that I allow strangers on my property to walk around and drive around shooting in the dark.
      Wild pigs suck. They cause a lot of damage. They don’t cause near the damage that random people walking around shooting things do. Wild pigs don’t’ shoot my kids.

      1. avatar Lane H says:

        JWTaylor makes great points. If I was a landowner I’m sure I would feel the same way. To that issue, what if there was a training program for people to get certified on how to safely hunt safely on private lands? (Mapping boundaries, etc.) This would also eliminate the weekend warriors who tend to be wreckless or crazy. The government could also establish a waiver of liability for the landowners, so that if someone gets hurt they don’t get sued (which would be my other major concern as a landowner).
        Just trying to think outside the box.

        1. avatar Gov. William J Le Petomane says:

          Not only that, but the state could organize the eradication efforts and farmers/ranchers could be contacted directly by the state DNR and informed of the plan and asked for their cooperation.

      2. avatar Gov. William J Le Petomane says:

        Per my comment above, perhaps if the state employed hunters or issued state licenses that required background checks, training etc. people would be less reticent to allow the hunters on their land at night, knowing that they were professionals and not just a bunch of drunken yahoos with guns and 4x4s.

      3. avatar TrueBornSonofLiberty says:

        I understand your position. I’d recommend not whining about the infestation then. Obviously, as the data shows, you can’t have your cake and eat it too. If/when the problem becomes so acute, the landowners should provide a guide (who could be a trusted friend/family member) and access for free. Seems that’s the most efficient way not to get your house shot up.

        1. avatar jwtaylor says:

          I’m not whining about infestation nor have you heard me do so. I control my hog population with hunting, pressure from competing livestock, and lots of big dogs.
          But that only works on a small scale. What I am in fact doing is pushing pigs to other people’s properties.
          Hunting alone, on a statewide scale, simply will not work. What you are asking landowners to do is to take incredible risks with their livelihood and their families in order for strangers to have a good time shooting pigs. When it comes to out of state hunting of wild pigs, we are simply providing a service to you. You are not providing any kind of effective service to us.

      4. avatar Rob says:

        I shoot small invasive potguts in central Utah several times per spring every year. I have yet to shoot a person, livestock, barn, watering system, or anything else of value. We take thousands of these alfalfa eating critters. We also take antelope when in season and legal. Perhaps you need more responsible aquaintances or a vetting system? Surely the great state of Texas has hunters of the non-yahoo variety?

        I routinely get thumbs up from farmers while I’m working. I’ve been invited to 4 meals at farmers homes. Once I was given obsene amounts of ammo for my services. Utah farmers know how to treat a responsible and friendly hunter to keep me coming back.

        1. avatar jwtaylor says:

          Very different kind of hunting. Hog hutning often done in heavy brush, at night, with packs of animals on the move.
          Entirely different risk profile.

      5. avatar barnbwt says:

        And yet, I don’t believe there’s mass-casualties every year on all those public hunting spaces –no worse than any other outdoor recreational activity, at least.

        So basically, this is –once again– NIMBY’s crying to the moon. Poison side-steps all those concerns you have…and yet it was unacceptable since it might ‘taint’ the hunted game. Because hunting the game is what it is really about at the end of the day, and not controlling the hogs. The hogs reproduce too vigorously for you to have it both ways, without hog-pens (and even then, they escape *constantly* wherever hogs are raised)

        1. avatar jwtaylor says:

          Our aversion to poison has little to do with “hunted game”.
          When the government tells us that they are going to drop poison all over our land, but don’t worry it won’t hurt our families or our livestock, we tend to be skeptical.

        2. avatar barnbwt says:

          Are you a hog rancher, by chance? Because I don’t see how a rapidly biodegradable dilute poison like warfarin could possibly harm anything but scavengers (and even then, only scavengers that subsist almost exclusively on the tainted meat for a considerable time span).

          I remember the debates from a couple years ago; increasingly elaborate & unlikely scenarios being spun to show that the poison (any poison) couldn’t be acceptable, despite all the logical theory, historical, and experimental evidence. The only solution is no solution…oh, and more paid hunting. Because that’s the real motivation here; more & cheaper hog hunting, not controlling the population. “My dog could bite into a pig carcass & roll over dead…I mean, my dog could eat pig carcasses exclusively for a full week & then roll over dead…I mean, my kids might accidentally eat the hog-baits exclusively for several days & get sick…I mean, my paying customers might see streaks of lesions & gross blue meat if they cut into a hog they paid to hunt from my property, and decide to feed on it exclusively for a several days regardless & get sick” –it was as pathetic as it was obvious.

          Maybe we should implement a bounty system…so there’s even more incentive to keep hogs on your property!

        3. avatar jwtaylor says:

          barnbwt, goat rancher and farmer with an organic dairy.
          Your solution would have ended my business overnight.
          I don’t know what your business is, but you are spreading a lot of lies about why ranchers like me won’t tolerate the broad release of rat poison on our land.
          I don’t charge to hunt on my land at all.

        4. avatar barnbwt says:

          Fair enough; I can certainly see goats eating anything remotely food-like, so I can see them eating hog baits. I forgot about that other omnivorous food-critter. I’m not a goat rancher, but I guess unlike most of the outfits I’ve seen, yours must encompass some very large unmanaged acreage as a commercial venture? It seems like most goat farms I see are fairly modest-sized pastures 10-20 acres) which could be pretty easily isolated from where the hog-baits are being placed, and the goat populations more easily monitored. They’re also usually pretty barren (from the goats) and don’t seem like the places hogs could bed down in without being shot at.

          The sprawling, largely unattended cattle & horse ranches with big wooded areas are where I assume the hogs are, and neither of those animals would be eating the hog-baits (they were supposed to be ‘meat flavored’ in order to specifically dissuade the bovine denizens, and IIRC the feeders also optimized to pig mouths vs. cows/horses). And of course, farms with produce for the taking…which I understand generally don’t have grazing animals working them over.

          Going back to what I said; the concerns I see appear rather overwrought & unlikely. The Aussies didn’t seem to have these issues, either. If the presence of warfarin baits “somewhere” on your property causes you to lose your ‘organic’ ‘status,’ I see that as a true business impact. But if the alternative is hogs running completely unchecked across all agriculture in the state?

          I don’t work for the bait company, if that’s what you’re insinuating. Honestly, I have more personal incentive for hunters to buy a ton of guns & ammo to go shooting hogs with. My incentive is the indirect costs I have to bear, whenever the hog damage cost is passed along to me, the consumer. And as the voter, when ranchers/farmers come pleading for my tax money to help remediate a problem they allowed to explode in the first place. And as the driver & hiker, when I suddenly come upon these stupid things in my travels and risk damage or injury. I’m not a hunter, though; that I will readily admit, and I feel it is why my opinion is not clouded by the cheap entertainment the animals clearly offer to those so inclined. Same reason I’m not elated to see so all the deer carcasses & destroyed vehicles on the side of the road in my area, despite the sausage & backstraps being cheap & plentiful.

        5. avatar jwtaylor says:

          barnbw, no sir, I was not insinuating that you work for a bait company. You have a lot of opinions about Texas farmers and ranchers that are not based in fact, and I see now that is because you are not a farmer or rancher.
          A 20 or 30 acre pasture would be very easy to manage and would not require any kind of hog eradication program. Four big dogs is all you need. Those are Hobby Farms, not commercial Enterprises. God bless those folks, they’re great, but that is nothing like a real commercial Dairy. Those folks have maybe a couple dozen goats. Most successful goat farms will have at least a thousand goats. Hell, depending on the time of year, I might have 300 kids. We are talking about very different scales here. I said it above, but at eight hundred acres I am one of the smaller landowners.
          When you consider this, you might see how it really changes the arithmetic about poison, as well as about people walking around my property shooting. To be effective at all, either of those activities must be spread over a large amount of space that I cannot regularly observe.

      6. avatar Andrew Lias says:

        That’s a choice you make ultimately. I can see the urge NOT to let people blasting randomly on your property, but at the same time if the pig issue is an issue then that means you’re going to end up being the person responsible for it.

      7. avatar LarryinTX says:

        JWT, wait a moment, you are taking a 90 degree turn from the gist of this post. The whole story is that “hunters are needed”, while your position is that hunters are beating down the door trying to shoot anything and everything, of course you must make them pay through the nose. Not both are true, you just need to say the story is not correct, hogs are completely under control and a great source of easy money from the suckers, and we can drop the worries about poor Texas being overrun.

        1. avatar jwtaylor says:

          you read that post very differently than I did. The original post makes it very clear that hunting is not the solution. All hunting does is reduce the increase of the problem and, as the original post points out, is a temporary solution at best.
          Given that, given that we know hunting is not a solution, it is not worth the very real, legitimate, and permanent threat of people who we do not know shooting our livestock and our family members.
          That is an extremely high price to pay for a solution we know is not effective. The juice is not worth the squeeze.

      8. avatar Bob Wyman says:

        Mister landowner, Please feel free to enjoy hogs that you do not charge a single red cent to ravage/forage on your property (and I am sure they are gentle with your children). Hogs like to root and tear up the soil so they do your plowing too. But if they introduce some disease to your livestock, if you have any, then it would suck to be you.
        Having more respect for hogs than humans is how you come off here and some commenters are being polite to you while while you trash them.
        I won’t be polite.
        You can play God or all-knowing mint-muching landed aristocrat or go out and purchase 10 foot high chainlink fence like so many Texans do so they can import wildlife from around the world for canned hunts and big bucks. But do not forget to put up the signs that say “If you crash into this fence, do not move your car, call xxx-xxx-xxxx”, we don’t want your valuable killable gazelles to get out do we? Those fences and signs are all over the state.
        So, dear Texas, enjoy the pigs down there- and wild hogs too. The state should fine landowners for allowing and fostering pestilence. One more thing, what I would like to see here in Colorado is no more goddam Texans hunting elk and deer in our National Forests. They are a disgrace to behold.

  11. avatar conrad says:

    Time to break out the silencers, night vision and subsidies for the Militia.
    It’s for the children, because fine pork is a terrible thing to waste.
    Collect the honorarium, slay the porkers, drop them off to be butchered at the food distribution centers, and repeat until there is no more pork.
    Of course Democrats are invited to trap, sterilize, and relocate the beasts if they can agree to do it. Of course they could satiate their blood lust by capturing only the pregnant females and aborting that tissue.

    1. avatar LarryinTX says:

      I had a neighbor a couple decades back, dunno whether she was a Dem or not, who hired a team to trap all the feral cats in the neighborhood, around 15, I think. Then she paid (!) for them to be sterilized, and turned them loose in the neighborhood again. That is some expensive commitments.

  12. avatar Justsomeguy says:

    It’s more complicated than this article describes. First, there have been cases where “sportsmen” have released hogs including larger varieties. I haven’t read of that happening in Texas but it is a apparently common in the south east. With that being known, I’d be surprised if it wasn’t happening here.

    In the second place, many landowners have discovered that they can charge people who want to shoot hogs. Their property is not open for hunting unless they are being paid. Since many of them aren’t involved in planting crops, the damage done isn’t nearly so worrisome to them. If private property being prevalent in Texas and there being many hog “sanctuaries” because of it, we will likely not solve the problem.

  13. avatar Lane H says:

    What’s frustrating is that I can’t find an affordable place to hunt them. The ranches that are set up to let people hunt hogs aren’t cheap (I understand they are a business, so not knocking them at all) but I can’t afford to pay those prices and go very often.
    I think part of the problem that private land owners have is liability. Maybe if the state set up a program for hog hunting that limited the liability of the land owner (and responsibilities of the hunters) they could get more people out hunting them.
    Thoughts?

    1. avatar barnbwt says:

      Those hunt-ranches also have exactly zero incentive to control their hog populations. Quite the contrary, in fact, unless they are very securely fenced installations (actually, a runaway hog problem in & outside the property makes it much easier to ‘supplement’ the herd without drawing attention)

      It isn’t like we don’t see this exact scenario play out with endangered animals, daily. Ban the profit from the hunt…suddenly it’s worth every property owner’s while to have these damaging animals annihilated by any means. Allow the use of slow-acting poison, and suddenly you have thousands of persistent “hunters” working 24/7 to put downward pressure on whole populations with little impact beyond the hogs (maybe it’ll hurt scavenging coyotes; so what?)

    2. avatar Ralph says:

      “Maybe if the state set up a program for hog hunting that limited the liability of the land owner”

      Texas has a Recreational Use Statute that does some of that. Maybe it needs to be expanded.

  14. avatar Fit2Btyed says:

    Expand the call for hunters to Texas from surrounding states by offering free rooms and lodging during the hog hunt.

    1. avatar LarryinTX says:

      Right! $1000 per day, lodging included!

    2. avatar LeadKisses says:

      Those of us living in the state are already having a hard time gaining access. Everything is privately owned.

  15. avatar GS650G says:

    If I didn’t live so damn far from there I’d spend a week hunting them. But it’s too much trouble to fly there with guns . And I don’t feel like paying to help eradicate them.
    Just my positions on the matter.

  16. avatar Shire-man says:

    How to decimate a species:
    -convince the Chinese hog testicles are an aphrodisiac
    -get PETA to “protect” them
    -get e-thots to wear boar heads while streaming
    -have feds airlift in a bunch of wolves……that would be bad for the wolves
    -announce they voted for Trump

    1. avatar neiowa says:

      Pay Planned Parenthood to care for the young ones?

  17. avatar Texican says:

    Without natural predators the pig problem has to be solved by us humans. We’re going to have to get creative. Maybe have hog hunting festivals with prizes for most shot, greatest weight, youngest hunter, kills with a knife, spear, pistol, shotgun, rifle, etc. I don’t bass fish but there seems to be a lot of hullabaloo over them. And hardly anything to eat when you’re all done! Start a Hogs Unlimited or something. But instead of trying to preserve hogs the purpose is to eradicate or greatly reduce the population. There would need to be rules and standards for being able to hunt them and training to undergo so that people aren’t shooting the wrong things. Make it a win/win for property owners and those who want to hunt. If you’ve got credentials from Hogs Unlimited then property owners would gladly allow hunters on their land. Donate meat to shelters. Heck, make homeless and welfare recipients participate to earn their food. European royalty used to hunt them from horseback using spears. Kinda like jousting. I’d pay to watch that in a controlled environment. Entrepeneurialism and capitalism can do it! I’m sure there are other ideas out there. What say you TTAGers?

    1. avatar barnbwt says:

      We’re plenty creative; we drove a species damn near as clever as us to extinction (wolves). We just lack the will today to do what is necessary. Widespread poisoning is really what did-in wolves, and it is what will do-in hogs. Cheap, low-profile, low-impact, works ceaselessly for days or weeks at a time, easily controlled, inescapable. Use a slow-acting poison that builds up slowly in the target species, and you don’t really even need to worry about follow-on environmental impact to scavengers or the remaining ecosystem.

      Texas was ready to deploy such a poison (warfarin, aka rat poison) but spooked hunters because it might work too well. So instead they looked at less-effective sodium nitrite poisons, which –shocker of shockers– hung around long enough to cause damage to other species (who’d a thunk that a meat-preservative would persist in meat?) So now we are still unable to deploy any poisons, and are left trying to manually crush every last rat with a claw-hammer as a way to control the infestation like a bunch of morons.

      1. avatar jwtaylor says:

        Poison is the answer. It’s the only answer and we know it. The article above says as much.
        But it has to be a poison that won’t hurt our families or our livestock, and doesn’t kill the local native wildlife population. It’s not about deer. It’s about deer and foxes and coyotes and bobcats and quail and etc…

        1. avatar barnbwt says:

          Gotta protect the coyotes (even more overgrown than the hogs) and the bobcats (SSS applies here in spades to chicken farmers & pet owners –oh wait, you don’t think their commercial interests should take precedent as do your own re: poison application?) and the mountain lions (SSS is the official stance of the USDA IIRC, since they don’t acknowledge the animals even exist here, lol) and the wolves/bears/panthers we drove to full extinction because they were so dangerous & damaging to keep around and still have no plans to reintroduce?

          Oh yeah, one of the other concerns about warfarin is that the hogs “would suffer” –no really, that was one of the main objections, lol!

        2. avatar jwtaylor says:

          No, that was not one of the main objections by any of the actual landowners, ranchers, and farmers. I went to a lot of meetings about different poisons, systems of delivery, and where and how they were to be delivered. No Rancher or farmer ever gave a damn about the pigs suffering.

        3. avatar Arc says:

          Barn, we drove wolves to extinction for greed, not because they were dangerous. Likewise with coyotes, people shoot at them non-stop not because they are taking pets or livestock, but because of the shits and giggles. A lot of people find it fun to kill animals.

          If you want to play the livestock game, humans are a bigger problem than any pest animal could ever be. Go take two seconds to look at the USDA cattle statistics and causes of death sometime. Respiratory issues, Ppreventable disease, lack of shelter, etc, AKA human caused problems, are over half of cattle losses. Even theft (Human caused problem) all by its self takes more cows than wolves do.

          The only wildlife that I’ve ever seen take livestock in nearly 30 years of living in Texas, are bobcats and chicken hawks. Chicken hawk was a one off instance and the bobcat problem is limited to chickens. Next time I get chickens, they will be enclosed in a wire covered hoop house.

          I’m surrounded by coyotes and hear multiple packs howling every other night but only one yote has ever come out to be seen and that is because it was wounded by some piece of shit that should never be allowed to handle a weapon again. I have around two dozen barn cats at any given time, none have vanished. I don’t have any mice or grasshoppers where the cats hang out at.

  18. avatar J says:

    I have a powered paraglider. Could I legally hunt hogs from it in texas?

    1. avatar Texican says:

      Probably. With night vision and silencer at night! Question is can you fly and shoot at the same time? Could add it to my suggestions above.

  19. avatar Tom in Oregon says:

    If the land owners didn’t charge 2-3 hundred bucks a day to hunt them, I suspect it wouldn’t be that bad.
    Went there once, but was ripped off by an unethical outfitter.
    Until something changes, it’s just going to get worse.
    I won’t go back.

  20. avatar Gadsden Flag says:

    Wow! Never new a pig could touch such a nerve. I grew up shooting the odd pig. Most which we called piney wood rooters. They are decent camp meat when we were camped on the Ochlockonee River, but shooting one was considered a chore. We rotated the duty. Fast forward to today. Pigs showed up on the farm. They are destructive. Over the course of a year we shot, trapped or caught with dogs 300+ hogs on 1000 acres. We now have things under control. By far, the best method was the dogs. Hogs can not tolerate the harassment.

    1. avatar jwtaylor says:

      “By far, the best method was the dogs.”
      Exactly this.

      1. avatar Geoff "I'm getting too old for this shit" PR says:

        How do you keep the dogs on your 1,000 acres?

        1. avatar LarryinTX says:

          Feed them all the hogs they can eat!

        2. avatar jwtaylor says:

          Raise Great Pyrenees with the flock. They will go wherever the flock goes and only where the flock goes.

  21. avatar Old Air Force says:

    Where we need to airlift them is the mountains of Afghanistan and Iraq. The American and European forces over there would surely love some whole roasted pig from time to time. Might clear out the caves as well. Get the government to partially subsidize the round ups and all of the transport costs. How many hogs fit in a C17?

    1. avatar Geoff "I'm getting too old for this shit" PR says:

      Hogs don’t ‘root’ much in a sandbox…

    2. avatar Mantitude says:

      Just shy of four hundred, if you want them contained.

    3. avatar LarryinTX says:

      Uh, wait, now. Doesn’t some religion over there have problems with pork? Still, airlift is expensive, how about a tramp steamer with 10,000 or so? Still, dump them 2 miles offshore is easier.

  22. avatar John Boch says:

    Put a $20 bounty on every dead hog (collect tails, or ears) and they’ll be eradicated by every working class Tom, Dick and Harry by the end of the year.

    Who wouldn’t want to spend a Saturday making a few hundred bucks shooting / spearing / drowning / bowhunting a bunch of feral hogs? Sure beats sitting around watching golf on TV.

    Heck, you could do at least a C-Note wiping out a litter of piglets. Plus you’re helping to reduce their carbon footprint!

    1. avatar Ing says:

      That’s what I was thinking. If the government puts a sufficient bounty on them, they’ll be hunted, trapped, and poisoned down to nothing in short order. It’s only a matter of how much money they’re willing to throw at it.

    2. avatar jwm says:

      Texas is mostly private property. Paying a bounty won’t help if the landowners will not let you hunt or charge large sums for permission.

      Now if the state was to start fining or otherwise punish the land owners for harboring an invasive species it would then be up to the land owners to deal with the problem.

      1. avatar Ing says:

        The idea is that the landowners themselves could also make money from the bounty. Even if they charge a fee to let hog hunters in, the bounty would be well worth it for the hunters. Everybody gets some, and the hogs go down hard.

    3. avatar barnbwt says:

      Ridiculous; a bounty when people are already *paying* to hunt is the exact wrong policy if you want to actually reduce the number of the things.

  23. avatar Dyspeptic Gunsmith says:

    As someone who has also dealt with destructive pests that had high reproductive rates (in my case, ground squirrels and pocket gophers), here’s a reality I learned the hard way:

    Shooting them will never get you on top of the problem. Sure, you’re making a bit of a dent, but you’re not going to really slam them back. When I would poison for ground squirrels or gophers, I could achieve upwards of a 80% kill rate in one day’s time, maybe two days’ time, and then I’d clean up the rest with shooting or traps.

    Landowners/farmers simply cannot spend all their time shooting pests – there’s too much other stuff that has to be done a farm or ranch to allow the owners or employees to just go afield day after day with a rifle and shoot any pests they see.

    The only thing I ever found that would reduce a vertebrate pest population to a point where we could keep it under control with shooting/trapping was poison. I tried lots of different approaches. I attracted predators. I had hawks, eagles and owls on my place by the half-dozen. They helped, but after they’ve eaten a couple/three pests per day, they’re full up. This wasn’t a huge help when I needed to get rid of dozens and dozens of pests in an hour’s time, hour after hour. One year, we had a quarter-section of ground where we trapped out over 7,000 pocket gophers. I used a “gopher getter” to poison (strych on groated oats) the rest of them – which I estimated to be over 15,000 of them. We literally broke our county’s bounty system at $0.50/tail. They never offered a bounty again.

    The next year, we were still dealing with pocket gophers. More poison bait applied at the right time (just as they were coming out of hibernation) knocked them back for the season.

    The downside of poisons is the secondary kill issue – and in the case of wild pigs, the stench of that much flesh rotting in the fields (as well as what happens when a swather or combine happens upon a carcass in the field, under the crop canopy).

    1. avatar barnbwt says:

      Maybe try a mink or a ring-tailed cat? I’ve heard they kill small critters just for fun, in addition to food, lol. Of course, both are considered pests, themselves, so we’d end up sending wave after waves of snake-eating gorillas to deal the snakes we sent to deal with the minks we sent to deal with the squirrels (the gorillas will die from cold over winter)

      1. avatar Geoff "I'm getting too old for this shit" PR says:

        “Maybe try a mink or a ring-tailed cat?”

        There are folks who hire themselves out with trained minks and dogs to de-rat barns and farms :

        1. avatar barnbwt says:

          It’s like a rodent Sam Fisher!

  24. avatar Ginder12 says:

    If republicans would stop breeding the feral hog problem would go away.

    1. avatar LarryinTX says:

      If Democrats would stop breathing, all other problems would disappear.

  25. avatar Valentin says:

    Make it illegal for land owners to charge to hunt hogs on their land. If they do charge give a reward to report them. Hogs are not Indigenous to Texas or the USA. So if a bounty is placed on them then you will see a reduction in hogs. Supply me with a night scope for my rifle and I will gladly do it.

    1. avatar Gadsden Flag says:

      Val, I have a problem with the government telling me what can be done on my land. It’s already bad enough. We once opened the farm to hog hunting. All comers. Next thing we knew we had people fishing in the ponds, sitting on the fields during deer season, people everywhere. We shut that down quick. Only one guy with his crew and dogs allowed and only when we knew when he would be there and we monitored everything.

  26. avatar Cecil says:

    You can build a feeder {24″ x36″) it has to have a sliding door at each end, with a bar at the bottom of the door, the hog can raise the door with their stout, It must have two stops where it can be set where you can put un- posion corn where the will get used to feeding. Then add your poison to the corn they then can raise the door to the second stop and eat, the small amount the leave will not be enough to kill deer and other will life. It is used in other countries and it is true you must remove 80% of the hogs each year to control the population. Texas will not allow this to be used.

  27. avatar GunnyGene says:

    It ain’t just Texas. It’s the entire lower half of the country, and spreading north. I live in MS, in a rural farming area, and we have the same problem as TX. Folks in the suburbs of towns like Jackson regularly see the damn things on their front yard.

    But until they get widespread in metro areas like NYC, DC, etc. nothing serious will be done about the problem. Trust me, it won’t be long before they are competing with the rats.

    1. avatar UpInArms says:

      ” But until they get widespread in metro areas like NYC, DC, etc. ”

      They’ve been spotted in the southernmost county (Sussex) of Delaware. It won’t be long now.

  28. avatar bryan1980 says:

    Here just south of where I work, there’s a massive greenbelt that follows the Trinity River down in to Fort Worth proper, no telling how many hogs are roaming around in there. No hunting there, of course.

    In regards to landowners letting people hunt hogs on their property; if we hadn’t become such a litigious society, they might be more eager to allow it. But the way things are now, any person that sets foot on your property is a potential lawsuit.

  29. avatar billy-bob says:

    Feral democrats. Is it open season on them yet?

    1. avatar WI Patriot says:

      Soon, give it another yr…right now, all the traps are being baited…

  30. avatar WI Patriot says:

    “More Hunters Wanted: Texas is Losing the Fight Against Feral Hogs”

    And over the yrs, landowners thought they could make a quick buck charging for hog hunts, and when it got ridiculously expensive, the hunters stopped coming, and then the problem dbl’d…now they’ve gotten themselves into a pickle, more feral animals, fewer hunters, and the $$$ well has dried up…this is what greed gets you…

    1. avatar Christy says:

      I agree 100%!

  31. avatar enuf says:

    Would not make any sense to me to go shooting on land I have not made an effort to gain some familiarity with. Where the roads and paths are, where other people may be. I have hunted on State Trust land for decades, you damn well better know where stock tanks are, be observant of cattle guards and keeping gates exactly as you find them. To me it’s a extension of basic gun safety rules. How can you be aware of safe places and directions to shoot if you have zero familiarity with the land? Made more complicated on private land with all the farming and ranching infrastructure? The pump houses and corrals and irrigation and outbuildings and routine workings of the business?

    Reading the land owner and hunter comments above, seems to me one solution would be in how land owners go about allowing hunters on their property. Require hunters come thru an organization, like a shooting club, that provides instruction and orientation on the ranches and farms in their area, approved by the land owner. Where the buildings are, the risks to livestock and people. Spend a day (or less, whatever is needed) driving around getting oriented with a local volunteer of the shooting club. Needs a very officious sounding title like “Volunteer Hog Whacking Tour Guide”.

    I see the complaints of both sides are real, finding a solution needs a bit of calm and creativity.

    State dollars for ammo would be good too. Which could be as helpful as a bounty per critter. Maybe do both?!

    1. avatar Arc says:

      How big is this bounty? It might be worth the resources to breed the hogs for the bounty.

  32. avatar Tom says:

    Time for Makin’ Bacon….

    1. avatar jwm says:

      That’s whats causing the problem.

  33. avatar Christy says:

    There would be many more hunters if the landowners didn’t want to charge so much! It’s ridiculous! We will go for free! On our dime! Just for the meat! And we will kill only hogs. But nope, they want 500.00 a day per person and give you a kill limit of 2… They act like it’s such a problem but don’t want anyone killing them without a profit.

    1. avatar barnbwt says:

      The kill limit, especially, is downright comical.

      I understand charging admission, simply because it dissuades shitheads. Personally, I think the foolproof system would be to charge a 500$ deposit, which is returned a week after they depart when it’s been verified the hunters caused no damage/broke no rules.

      But yeah, it’s clearly all about the dolla bills on this one, no matter what they say. Hunting groups were even saying poison was too cruel for hogs, lol. It’s obvious that they are worried poisoning would be so effective, that it would be rapidly required to combat hogs even on these ‘free range pork’ game ranches, and that would cut into the bottom line (and or course the cheap, easy fun-factor that boars provide hunters)

      1. avatar LeadKisses says:

        I tell people that I’ll manage game cameras/feeders/blinds for their deer season. I’ll even help clear trails and all that stuff just for access. Got power and water? I’ll pay to use that, if not, I’ll pop up a tent or sleep out of my vehicle. Hogs are an industry.

  34. avatar possum, destroyer of arachnids says:

    I’m a little busy right now killing spiders, but just as soon as I can me and my meat cleaver are heading South. You guys better git em while you can

    1. avatar Geoff "I'm getting too old for this shit" PR says:

      Possum, I bet to this day you have nightmares of that video Strych posted of that big-ass spider eating that baby possum… 😉

  35. avatar Hooplehead says:

    Feed ‘em to Wu’s pigs.

    Deadwood FTFW

  36. avatar Paul Jeannides says:

    They killed all the Buffalo , in 2 years what ever, with junk guns, but great shooters. So how long is this gonna take? Set up some hot dog processing plants, and kick some ass against these Russian donated hogs, get a contract with McDonald’s and serve mc ribs year round. And native raised grass fed smoked Chicago style dogs, yellow mustard, sweet relish, fresh onoins, pickle stick, sweet peppers, celery salt, 2 tamales, and a beverage of your choice. The hides will make great work gloves, or feral pig jackets, with a skull and crossbones painted on the back for the head bangin, metal heads. Warm and yummy, it’s an American original, what are we waiting for ? AOC to ink it. F that I’m hungry and cold.

    1. avatar Dyspeptic Gunsmith says:

      The bison slaughter started in the 1830’s, and wasn’t done until 1883, when the last large bands from the Northern Plains Herd were extirpated. By the time the Winchester 1886, the Browning High Wall, and other buffalo rifles came on the market, there were no more bison left to hunt.

      One big difference between the bison and pigs is the number of offspring. A bison calves one calf, maybe two, per year (every 9.5 months). A sow has 5 to 6 piglets per litter, and can become pregnant very quickly after giving birth.

      There’s a reason why pigs were called “mortgage busters” by farmers.

  37. avatar RCC says:

    Sporting Shooter Association Australia runs the Farmer Assist program where shooters are covered to 20 million public liability. It includes short safety course with exam and more importantly practical marksmanship test. Basically under 2 moa for all stages. Targets checked and verified by SSAA range officer. No fees changed by land owners for access.

    There are also poisons developed in Australia just for pigs.

  38. avatar LeadKisses says:

    Except living in Texas, it is difficult to find a place to hunt if you don’t have access to private property. I recently moved to Dallas from the Midwest and am an avid hunter (long gun, not archery). Caddo National Grasslands is the only public place that is near and it’s not large. It is closed to hunters ATM and is usually dripping with novice hunters on the weekends. A hunting lease for my significant other and I would be thousands of dollars. All of the other places for pig hunting that I’ve found want me to pay to hunt hogs on them. Hog Hunting is an industry down here. Don’t believe me, find me a free place to blast hogs and coyotes all year ’round (except maybe deep season to be courteous) within a 2 hour drive of Dallas. I’ll send you a $200 finder’s fee if you can set me up.

  39. avatar Reef Blastbody says:

    I’d be all for arranging to cull feral hogs, but so many property owners (mainly farmers) with hog infestations act like they’re booking 5 star vacations to work out access to hunt. I’m not going to shell out hundreds of dollars or more for the privilege of using my own equipment and ammo to cull the ferals that are tearing the bejesus out of your fields of soy, corn or whatever.

    That’s not to say that I’m expecting to be able to go out and just blast away at anything that moves, I’m more than willing to work with landowners with regards to where I can drive an ATV or truck and where to set up a blind or a stake out and not tear up crops or other infrastructure on their land, but to expect people to pay you a weeks pay to get thin out the pests ravaging your crops. At that point, you can hire professionals, and I’ll find someone with a deer lease who’s willing to work something out.

  40. avatar Blake Kellum says:

    The global change that needs to occur, is to correct the influence of baiting in Texas. Baiting is huge in Texas for deer and exotics, and hogs both directly and indirectly. Unfortunately the prolific use of corn and bait feeders in the State pretty much coincides with the explosion in the feral hog population. A state law requiring hog poof fencing at all feeder stations would help if it could be enforced. The organism is quite simply adjusting propagation to the availability of nutrients in its environment and it is damn good at it.

    1. avatar Arc says:

      This is exactly what attracted the hogs out here. Bloody deer feeders. They hear the feeder dump on a timer and out they run.

  41. avatar David says:

    I live in West Texas. We have Hogs but not that big a deal yet.
    My Problem is I cannot get onto any land to hunt period.

    Tell me where I can go Hunt & I will kill them for free.
    Center point for my location is Odessa Texas.

    1. avatar Glenn says:

      I’m with you Dave, I live in ND and have been looking into bowhunting hogs in the winter months up here also to get my boy to cut his teeth bowhunting also. My problem is the amount of money for only a few days hunting and you can only take just a couple and your done, if they are such the problem and no bag limits why am I limited to taking 2.

  42. avatar John Silvey says:

    I would love to hunt hogs here in central Texas … but land access doesn’t exist w/o paying too much money for me (from Austin). Paid $200 to hunt for one night out at a place out toward Dripping Springs … way over-hunted, didn’t see a single thing. Waste of time and money. I understand land owners not being crazy about the idea of letting strangers run around on their land at night, particularly if there are cattle or other livestock. How can one go about making connections with folks who will let you hunt and not charge an arm and a leg?

    1. avatar David says:

      Zackly

  43. avatar Ops says:

    make it a national emergency and let them access to go anywhere. for room and board from texas ill do it for a year, hook me up with some night vision and ammo and its on

  44. avatar Jtx says:

    It would help move them around if the private land owners would start letting people off-road on their land, make the pigs feel like someones always around. They would either move somewhere else or become used to people slip up and get shot in the face. Many property owners here dont even let people hunt on their property many dont hunt themselves either if they did this wouldnt be a problem, you dont even need a hunting license to depredate on your own property. Funny thing is i havent seen a pig or coyote on my property in ne texas in around 2 years id do my part if they would show up i planted corn this year so fingers crossed they will show up

  45. avatar Johnny Corona says:

    If texas parks and Wildlife would quit putting dollar signs on us. We might come up with more creative ways to help hunt hogs. I have a drone that i can use to help spot the damage area’s. But Texas parks and Wildlife say you have to pay for a permit to fly and use your drone for hog hunting. I don’t remember Texas parks and Wildlife helping me pay for my equipment. I think it’s crazy that we have to buy a permit to hunt private land for hog hunting.

  46. avatar William N Ressugue says:

    Sounds to me like Texas needs a $50 bounty on wild hogs, Texas needs tourist hunting and killing wild hogs, So invite me and my buddies down and let us help. If you toss in a tank of gas would be nice. But no matter would like to hunt Hogs in Texas let me know when, where and how?

  47. avatar BeoBear says:

    Here in Oklahoma there are plenty of people who want to hunt pigs but have no access. Landowners either refuse hunters outright, demand large fees or lease their land to commercial hog hunting groups who charge hunters. They then trap or buy trapped hogs to keep their numbers high so they maintain high hunter success rates. The commercial guys with the highest hunter success rates book the most hunters and the cycle continues.

    I live in central OK where we have one very small section of public land to hunt but it’s obviously packed during hunting seasons and so far isn’t known to harbor wild hogs. I’ve wanted to hunt hogs for years and years but unless I want to pay big bucks I’m out of luck. My purpose built hog guns have never seen a day in wild since their birth.

    If you have friends with land, access to hog infested public land or have pull in the industry you can hunt pretty much at will but the rest of us have essentially been shut out. Makes me cringe every time I read stories talking about how easy it is to get out hog hunting. It’s not. Even those of us who live in “Hog country” don’t have the option available to us without a fat wallet.

  48. avatar Harding Dies NRA Certified Instrutor and Veteran says:

    I’d love to go and take my sons with me – and we’ve discussed it – but when it will cost me several thousand dollars for travel and ‘spacious’ lodging and then more for ONLY one or two hogs TO SOLVE THEIR ‘PROBLEM’, I have to say “NO”! Basic economics dictates there must be an incentive, and ‘just for the fun of it’ doesn’t cut it. And many ranches and outfitters restrict guns (no pistols) and calibers (M1 Carbine which has as much impact @ 100 yds as a .357 @ muzzle) that some people would have to buy a new gun just to hunt. In summary, the State of Texas and the private landowners better think this out more thoroughly and come up with a unified and comprehensive program if they truly want this problem solved.

  49. avatar Ed Schrade says:

    Big landowners not letting anyone manage/hunt these hogs on their property sets up sanctuaries for them to go onto highways and cause auto damage and wrecks. State should require landowners to implement a hog control plan and report the number of hogs removed per month. This would help the small landowners whose property is torn up by hogs originating from these ” hog sanctuaries”.

    1. avatar Arc says:

      We don’t need more government interference.

      If you want to interfere with something, go after ranchers who leave their fences down year round and let their cows and horses out onto everyone else land. Go after livestock people own. Once you start punishing people for wildlife on their land, you open a whole new can of worms that will never end until owning land is out of financial reach.

    2. avatar Arc says:

      Damnit, TTAG BRING BACK THE EDIT BUTTON!

      Most people don’t want the liability of randos coming onto their land and shooting off in the wrong direction. One stray bullet and it comes back to the person who was shooting and to the person who hired them too. Inviting people to shoot on your land is a disaster waiting to happen.

  50. avatar Ardent says:

    Others have said it ad infinitum, but I’ll say it again. Texas landowners have a problem, and not city folk, not renters, not small holders, but big Texas landowners. While any significant number of landowners are charging, rather than paying, for hogs to be killed, the only real problem is that they can’t attract enough suckers to pay their fees to hunt hogs.

    These impassioned pleas to come do something about the hog problem are starting to sound like sales pitches, and pathetic ones at that.

    I’ll throw down the gauntlet: I’m a healthy 42 year old man with 35 years hunting experience who can qualify expert with a rifle on any sensible course you may choose, who will relocate to any part of Texas to hunt hogs for any portion of any year, or for years on end for the cost of travel room and board and expenses, food ammo gasoline and the like. Willing to live in apartment, spare room, bunk house or shack. Will supply my own weapons, 4×4 and 4 wheeler. Will hunt 6 days a week as well as nights in any weather allowing success, and willing to guarantee results.

    Anyone interested can reach me via TTAG, they have my email.

    1. avatar Arc says:

      Make sure you have liability insurance and have incorporated into an LLC before trying something like that. Your LLC should be the one offering the services with you being an employee.

    2. avatar arc says:

      Double post, don’t forget your Texas sales tax permit for collecting sales tax on your services! Professional hog removal may or may not be a taxable service. Collecting tax without a license is fraud. The person contracting you will also need to issue a 1099 form.

      It usually more trouble that most people will put themselves through and want an easier option.

  51. avatar Stephen Borders says:

    Same here in Georgia. Have to pay $3-500 to hunt, with no guarantee you will get a hog. I want the meat, by the time you pay to hunt and have it processed, it is cheaper to go to the store.

  52. Tell democrats that the hogs can vote and most would end up in California, New York and DC

  53. avatar Brandon Hileman says:

    If it wasn’t so expensive for our of state people to hunt I guarantee there would be more hunters. I for one would love to hunt hogs but I can’t afford to pay that kind of money. Lower the price and it will come into play for killing more hogs.

  54. avatar kap says:

    this is a problem from Large land owners they imported the hogs as a way to make money, having hunts and it got a way from the greedy Bas***ds, a land owner wants a piece of the action charging X amount of dollars per pig to hunt his or her land

    1. avatar Arc says:

      Its a good business if you got a lot of land that you aren’t doing anything with. A large degree of the human population are sociopaths and psychopaths. People like their killing. legitimate hunting and killing pest animals like hogs are socially acceptable outlets for such types. Hogs will never get any tears, even from animal rights extremists.

      Once upon a time such people were highly valued as warriors and hunters. Some still are. In modern day, there isn’t a whole lot of room for them and their need to fight and kill is still there. They are a profitable market, naturally people will cater to them.

  55. avatar James W Crawford says:

    This is a job for Sarah Palin!

  56. avatar BusyBeef says:

    Or you could, you know, introduce predators and not allow hunters to hunt those predators.

    Nature has a funny way of balancing itself out if we leave it alone and don’t interfere.

    Worked for several parks where wolves were reintroduced.

    1. avatar Arc says:

      Yep, retards want to go shoot up all the coyotes and bears, for nothing other than the shits and giggles. Its something living to shoot at rather than boring paper/cans/tannerite. Then we all wonder why the deer, rabbit, hog, and bobcat populations are out of control. Well shit, no predators for the deer and rabbits, and no competition anymore for other predators.

      BUHHH MUH PRECIOUS GAIEEM ANIMALS!!

      1. avatar Joseph Quixote says:

        Have you seen what Wolves have done to the Northern Yellowstone Elk Herds? You need to educate yourself.

  57. avatar Joseph B Iturralde IV says:

    Another issue is that most hunts are done on private land and that costs. Public lands are available, but then you have others taking advantage of those lands to enjoy, and hog hunting is done at night also and most public lands close or stop hunting at a certain time. So now we’re back to private lands. The owners charge crazy prices for the hunt, to dress the hog and sometimes the weight of the pig is charged an extra fee. So, if you want to knock down the numbers, then stop robbing hunters with crazy fees. By all means make a profit, but be reasonable.

  58. avatar 9x19 says:

    Nuke them from orbit….it’s the only way to be sure…

  59. avatar johnny108 says:

    ADVERTISE THIS IN GERMANY!!
    Hunting is a VERY expensive undertaking there.
    You could get German tourists lining up to be outfitted and guided onto a hunt- no problem!
    (If you hunt hogs in Germany, they have to check the meat for radioactivity from Chernobyl- if it’s too hot, you can’t keep the meat.)

  60. avatar Max says:

    I have been in Texas for 5 years now. I’m originally from Ohio. Hunting in Texas is a joke. There is so much private land that people lease for over 1k and during the week let others take game that would have been for you. Hog hunting is a commercial sport here. They fence them in a farm them. The going rate is $1 per pound you get charged at these farms.

  61. avatar Joe Boren says:

    I have hunted feral hogs for 20 plus years,all over North and East Texas.I have several ranchers that I hunt for every year,with a friend.The key to hunting is making relationships with ranchers and farmers,and gaining their trust in that process.Now I have their friends and neighbors calling me,asking me to hunt.I don’t have time.I am retired and hunt 3-4 days a week.People want to trust you,if they don’t, you don’t hunt.I don’t shoot their cows,goats,sheep,deer or dogs.I offer them the pick of the hunt,as many as they want.I give some away,harvest some for myself and burn the bigger hogs.The rancher/farmers let me use their tractors and equipment to transport if I ask,and are very appreciative of what I do. I haven’t paid for ammunition in several years,as they all know what ammunition I use and prefer,or they have reloading supplies when I go hunting.I don’t over hunt and rotate where I hunt for a reason.Relationships and trust.

  62. avatar leonard kollmar says:

    me and my grandsons would to go hunt .but the farmers charge way to much for me. I am on ss and can not afford $5000.00 to hunt them.

  63. avatar JR says:

    Would love to help out but like many have said way to much money for a 3 day 2 night hunt like 600 a night per person provide your own hotel or place to stay and provide your own ammo but your only aloud 1 or 2 hogs I’ll pass on that deal basically if I wanted to go it would be about 2000$ for 2 pigs

  64. avatar Adluginb says:

    The state shouldn’t have to pay people to hunt them. If it was actually a problem then the land owners wouldn’t charge people to hunt them. Just another story blown out of proportion. I’d go hunt them for free but like others have said people want to make money by charging you a lot to hunt them.

    They’d get it under control once they pass a law saying owners can’t charge for hunting them. I know literally hundreds of hunters that would go hunt them for free!

  65. avatar Terry says:

    If it were a real problem Texas would welcome hunters from across the country without charging expensive out of state licenses fees. I’m not paying the State of Texas or a land owner to take care of their problem.

  66. avatar Michael Milligan says:

    As long as land owners want to charge me $200+ to kill a hog, they can keep the darn things and deal with the losses they experience. If the problem is really as bad as they claim, offer free hunts.

  67. avatar Michael Richardson says:

    I find it funny that there is this problem with hogs in Texas and the alarm is out that more need to be eliminated, yet you go on the internet and you have these ranches charging hundreds of dollars to hunt the hogs….these farms that have the problems need to advertise hunting on their property. If its such a problem seems there is a real solution.

    1. avatar Mitch says:

      The Texas hog hunting outfits do not want to kill all the hogs they are making big money charging people to hunt. They make deals with ranchers and charge $600 or more to shoot a trophy boor hog and $200 to $400 for a regular hunt. The hog is the Texas golden goose. If they really wanted to get rid of hogs they would put a $10 bounty on hogs and make paid hunts illegal.

      1. avatar Randy says:

        LOL I just had to reply to this idiotic comment. You can’t introduce money to hunters to get rid of hogs. All that will do is incentivize breeding of more hogs and the cycle will get worse. It’s painfully obvious you’re completely clueless to how this works. Second I love people who don’t want the government involved into euro life but are more than willing to get them involved into others life to get what they want. You want the government to force landowners to allow you to hunt. You don’t have a right to my land you waffle. They way hogs will be controlled is through a program akin to how screw flies were destroyed. It won’t have a single thing to do with hunters who will never be able to make a dent in the populations. So to recap. You don’t have a right to my land. You don’t have a right to hunt anyone’s place. You don’t have a right to decide what people can and can’t do or charge for on their property. You sir are a jealous baby. You can do what every landowner has done and buy your own land but I’ve got a sneaky suspicion you’ve got the credit of a frog and the income of a gnat so you want big daddy gubmint to make those greedy landowners let you hunt.

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