Earlier today, I blogged Zack Beauchamp’s op-ed Ban the Second Amendment. Most of our commentators dissected Beauchamp’s arguments with intelligence, insight and wit. Some reacted to Beauchamp’s civilian disarmament agenda by attacking him personally, including remarks about the Brown grad’s skinny jeans and simple instructions on putting things where the sun doesn’t shine. In the past, this website has allowed these sorts of comments to stand. After Shannon Watts and the Campaign to Stop Gun Violence used some vulgar TTAG comments to pillory and mischaracterize gun rights advocates we altered our comment policy to remove ad hominem attacks from the comments section. This new, stricter policy – designed to deny the enemies of gun rights ammunition for their campaign of civilian disarmament – remains in effect. I apologize to those who feel hamstrung by the new rules but there are plenty of firearms websites that welcome unfiltered spleen venting. This is not one of them.
Man, I sure miss being able to play Twisted Metal.
Sue the judge! If they get to say ammo is old and dangerous as an excuse to confiscate, we are all in trouble.
Never heard of dangerous small arms ammo from being old. And I think the CMP stuff i have is 1960s, would love to have a hearing on old ammo on the record.
Agreed.
I’m not sure where I fall on this. I think it’s the equivalent of a cop bumping a perp’s head as he pushes him into the car. We wouldn’t have complained if they’d done it to OJ, would we?
We hope to be the Knights in shining copper-plated armor for Rights of the People of the Gun.
Righteous, intelligent, and … maybe a bit less entertaining now. Ah, well, can’t have all three on this particular corner of the interbutt because of dainty sensibilities on behalf of Moms and their use of all the tools in the toolbox. Slippery slope, etc., although I’m definitely not the one figuring out how to pay for bandwidth.
Alright, RF, I guess we should keep the pointy bits out of reach of overgrown children. But in this case it’s for our own good instead of theirs. Or something.
Good decision. Don’t think of it as repression, think of it as garbage collection.
On the one hand, good. But… on the other hand, those idiotic, hate-filled comments are, in fact, representative of a not insignificant segment of the gun owning populace, otherwise they wouldnt’t be here, nes pa?
I prefer shaming, but I understand your POV, RF.
I don’t think shaming is a valid technique on an anonymous internet forum.
Also, shaming only works on people who are capable of feeling shame. People who are comfortable making nasty racist comments in public probably don’t fall into that category.
Without the magazine in it, it reminds me of a stormtrooper gun…
“Freedom of speech does not include making light of someone who wears corrective glasses.”
I’m sorry, but yes it does. What’s the point of protecting speech that’s all hearts and flowers and unicorns? There is no guarantee against having your widdle feewings hurt.
A blog without comments is like a meal without salt. I think we are quite capable of meaningful comment without resorting to schoolyard insults.
Yes, thats why the 3 stooges were so boring. I think we can give the anti’s less ammo without turning this into a library.
So says the scrawny unshaven twerpy-looking guy wearing two pairs of glasses disrespecting the American flag by wearing a piece of it in his shirt and sitting under a toadstool. Riiiiight…
As a pro-gunner who is occasionally embarrassed by the douchebaggery of my fellows, I approve.
kind of a shame. one of the best parts of this place in the past has been the ridiculous a$$-hattery circus in the comments section on some of the stories here. most of the time it’s more entertaining than the blog post.
ya, I kinda miss MikeBnumbers – but to be fair, it was so easy…
we need to attract a higher class of Troll/SockPuppet to make it more challenging.
For $200 the process shouldn’t take any longer than a standard FFL transfer… heck, for $200 NFA items should be delivered to my doorstep via courier in no more time than it takes Dominos to deliver a pizza.
You assume that the tax stamp is some sort of service charge. It’s not. It was intended to disincent people from buying NFA items. That philosophy has not change 80 years later.
I’ll do my part to keep things sophisticated and educational. From now on, all my ad hominems will be written in classical Greek and heavily footnoted.
What about latin? I prefer to be more international.
The Romans borrowed most of the sophisticated parts of their culture from the Greeks. Educated Romans spoke Greek, though some felt it was diluting their own heritage.
Don’t dismiss the Romans so much. First of all, the Romans had plenty of their own culture, amazing gladiator games, aqueducts, and a military far superior to the pissant Greeks. Secondly, some of the worst emperors were greek lovers (Nero, Caligula). A civilization cannot be ruled by poetry, art and theater alone. The Greeks have always been too proud of themselves, even today when their country is a financial mess, but they’re not the center of the university, and it would be unjust to ignore amazing Roman minds like Cato and Seneca. I do give the greeks credit for Socrates (but not Plato) who influenced Ayn Rand which allowed her to create objectivism. But beyond that, I’m a bigger fan of the Romans, Even today military schools study the tactics of Julius Caesar during his war in Galia (France), that goes to show the staying power of their ideas.
As long as you’re a top and not a bottom you’re good to go…
^note: comment on Ancient Greek\Roman culture and not an attack. Unless you’re Caligula.
some of the worst emperors were greek lovers
Sometimes it’s just too easy . . . .
I also admire the Romans far above the Greeks. Their achievements in engineering, government, military tactics and strategy, and pretty much every practical matter they turned their minds to are staggering. They laid the foundations for the modern world. There are a great many parallels between the history of the Roman Republic and the American Republic, including what looks suspiciously like a gradual change to an empire.
I don’t admire the gladiators that much, though. Not for their courage, which I would never deny, but for the use of the games as a means to distract the public from the problems of the day. Combine the modern welfare state with a combination of reality TV shows and the NFL, and you have another parallel, bread and circuses.
And just since I find myself commenting right next to Hannibal about the Romans… we’re not actually brothers.
I’m not taking sides here, but the architects of the most famous buildings in classical Rome were Greeks. The emperor Claudius wrote his history of the Romans in Greek. The emperor Marcus Aurelius wrote his well-known works in Greek. Anthony conversed with Cleopatra in Greek. In the history of the Roman Empire, and after it split, the Western Roman Empire, Rome produced not a single mathematician of note.
Now on the positive side Romans entrenched the cultural value of getting away to one’s country villa as often as possible, thus influencing the British. And while Rome, Italians, still take after Greeks financially, the Italians produce better cars, clothing, and bunga bunga parties, or so it is said.
How’s that saying go…better to close our mouths and let them think we are a bunch of misogynistic racists than open the comment section and prove it?
I suspect this will automatically power on with movement like my Gen 1 DeltaPoint. My DeltaPoint also automatically adjusts intensity.
Just after buying the 7.5 MOA triangular sight DeltaPoint (bottom battery, need rear sight drilled to access up/down, left/right adjustments on my Glock), Leupold/Redfield announce their new line up…go figure.
Feel free to delete any of my comments, anytime, without hard feeling.
I have a sick sense of humor, a problem with authority, and I like running my mouth off, it won’t be the first time I’ve been told to STFU.
… and we really, really need a “Like” button!!
“Like”!
A like button would be awesome. Take note of this guys.
Does every website HAVE to be Facebook?
I hope not… I dropped that BS long ago.
Does every website HAVE to be Facebook?
Like!
Sometimes education and repression are confused. But that is a good Monty Python skit!
I agree with the TTAG policy. If we can not show the falsies, illogical, and out right unconstitutional points by our appoints without stooping to their level, then we are not doing our jobs. We have logic, history, truth and the constitution on our side. What do they?
A bit of a double edged sword isn’t it? I mean we dislike the fact that anti-rights groups disable/delete comments on their own posts/videos and we call them out on it. How are we any better if we start doing it ourselves?
On the other hand getting rid of some stupid/ignorant comments isn’t bad either.
Antis disable comments because they know that their statements and beliefs aren’t capable of standing up to any actual analysis or application of facts, and they’d lose in any fact based debate. That’s the one thing we want to encourage here: analysis, application of facts, and thorough debate.
We aren’t shutting off the comments. We’re just trimming off the comments that make gun owners look bad while adding nothing to the discussion. You’re free to voice your opinion as long as you do it in a respectful manner.
It’s a slippery slope, I agree, but I think if we keep that purpose of encouraging open debate in mind we’ll stay in the right.
As a group of conciensous keepers and bearers of arms in our society, often viewed by those of misunderstanding as arbitrary and concave in regard, we must realize we need to hold ourselves to a higher standard than their name calling and deleting of “Articulate” debate and victory.
I have been banned from sites because they can not rebut my facts, and then they make stuff up then ban you and delete your comments.
What the editors of this site hope, surely, is that we realize the importance of the image we portray and that we should rememeber to portray ourselves in a genuine and possitive way. Not out of dishonesty and subversion, but that of genuine uprightness.
When you are truely a good person, even your enemies will shake your hand when they can find no fault in you..
Boring is a frame of mind, Like Safe.
It has no context in actual existence. It is an emotionaly resonant contrive.
Wow, that was boring.
Indivual thought does sometimes prevail in ones own mind.
But sure.
When I was a kid there were some fellas from the Old Country(R)who would sometimes shake your hand. Trouble was that there was sometimes a .38 in the other one. Later you went for a dip in Canarsie or Fresh Kill.
Did you grow up in Brooklyn or Queens?
For starters, there’s no reason that, in a civil society, the right to defend yourself implies the right to defend yourself however you’d like. A basic part of government’s job is to limit our ability to hurt others; assuming the absolute right to self-defense constitutes, in Alan Jacobs’ evocative phrasing, “the absolute abandonment of civil society.”
Repeatedly the anti-gun zealots fundamentally confuse the behavior of citizens as opposed the means available to them with which to defend their physical being and freedom. The right to “defend yourself however you’d like” intentionally uses terms denoting behavior (“how you’d like” i.e. “in what manner”) with the meaning “with whatever weapons you’d like.” The statistics, those from the FBI, for example, make clear again each year that violence isn’t committed by the typical gun owners (who have firearms, the instruments), but rather by the typical fatherless gang member and drug dealer (the people who above all else wish to impose violence in any manner, and exactly how’d they like. Obviously.
The “absolute abandonment of civil society”? That doesn’t sound like the armed citizens increasing the safety of their own neighborhoods, which on a purely statistical basis is almost all US gun owners. Rather, it invokes quite naturally in an informed mind the hideously casual violence plaguing once-proud urban districts now infested with callously murderous gang bangers, shooting each other “for a few dollars more.” Everyone educated American, left and right, knows it. Abandoning civil society obviously isn’t about guns or the ability to constrain tyranny, but rather is the apt description of the utter contempt for the law so often displayed in city after US city in substantial part.
To quote film maker Alan Jacobs regarding self-defense and the countering of tyranny is equivalent to asking a peanut-allergic child to rate Jiffy Peanut Butter. Neither Jacobs nor the kid has any expertise in the thing in question. Jacobs’ film “American Gun” received a dull rating on Rotten Tomatoes, being called mawkish, tedious, contrived, and pedantic. Only James Coburn, playing the lead, received good reviews, and not for anything ‘gun’ but for excellent grimaces and soulful looks. He died shortly after playing the role, but was famous as a movie gunman for most of his career. Surprise.
I cannot, finally, omit a comment on Erica Chenoweth and Maria Stephan’s book “Why Civil Resistance Works.” The book rests on a foundation of statistics, the categorization of campaigns for independence or greater civil rights according to whether the primary mode of resistence was violence or non-violent non-cooperation. Guess who did the classifying? Indeed, the authors, selecting “measures” as convenient whether internally or externally derived. In short, the thesis of the book avers that, scientifically, non-violence gains freedom more often (“in the modern era”) than violence. That isn’t the history of Indian freedom from the British Raj, Black America winning civil rights, Ireland’s freedom from rule by the UK, or South Africans gaining independence of the population from an apartheid minority regime. She and her co-author did find a few small examples of independence gained by Sinn Feinism, the work of parallel efforts (not always coordinated well) using both violence and non-violent cooperation to gain either freedom or change of regime. How the authors weighted the contributions of the two wings, violent and non-violent, I leave for you to guess, easily.
Chenoweth and Stephan’s text does highlight, and give peculiar interpretation to, the fact that in a given revolution a relatively small part of the freedom-seeking population will exert the violence, while a vastly larger fraction are willing to attend a march or rally. We knew that already. Our own War of Independence revealed a similar small minority driving the violence, while many many took some small or local non-violent step to help.
Non violence works well against an opponent who views themselves as civil, or at least feels the need to keep up appearances. Violence was necessary in Nazi Germany (cliche but valid) and may very well be necessary in Ukraine now. Yes in the modern world non violence may work more often, but the situations where non violence will work are different from the ones where violence is needed.
According to the news reports, the defendant is blind and the judge can see. Well, I don’t think so.
We are the Armed Intelligentsia. We can win these battles when we present articulate arguments but I must admit, sometimes FOAD is the first response I come up with when presented with some of the imbecilic arguments presented by out opponents.
Sometimes, FOAD is the only response that actually makes sense.
True, but people sorta resent you for that and look at your views as loony if you do that.
Can we color it in?
Ralph you’re killing me here…:)
It won’t be quite as entertaining, but it is your blog.
For the folks upset by the new policy…is it really that hard to contradict anti-gun beliefs with intelligence and decorum? We get angry when they come on our page with disparaging remarks about what kind of mindless neanderthals we must be to cling to our God and our guns. Should we not hold ourselves to the standards we are asking of them? If not, we sink ourselves to the level of name calling and vitriol we bash them for everyday. Is it too much to ask to put thought into why you disagree and express it intelligently? I for one, am proud of TTAG for this new policy, and wish more pages would do the same,along with proper spelling and grammar, further showing that we are an intelligent, thoughtful group of people, and not cavemen who don’t know how to form a complete sentence.
You hit on something.
There is the simple fact that some of us who are supporters of the 2A are of a Godly mindset and demeaner. Others are not.
Those who have issue with name calling and arbitrary insults are often, unfortuantely, from the latter.
Those who do not portray themselves in such a way, in person, or on the internet, are often of the prior.
Not because we are told not to, but because it is who we choose to be.
The Rule has no bearing on me because it has no bearing; Because my words bear no whitness in opposition.
Hey guys, I’m not sure about the pistol but the rifle is the in fact real. The owner showed up my doorstep selling them out of the back of his car. I did buy two. This was last April. The workman ship was good. Have sold one and the owner had no complaints…..works just fine. Minority owned company, his wife owns the parent company. As for the OFWGs working there……..Ya gotta know Halsey Oregon.
Oregon Secretary of State does indeed list complaints so it means it is a business, it does not mean it’s a good business. .
A pistol in that caliber. I have some doubts but it is possible/probable. And yes it will kick unless you put a brake on it (one heck of a brake). Now it does give me an idea……………..I have a Garand with a busted stock maybe shortening the barrel, moving/shortening the gas system……………………….and a bunch of 3006 cal AP. 🙂 Good Grief!
It is gratifying to see him wanting to “ban” the 2nd Amendment. In the past no one bothered, since it was about some sort of irrelevant and nebulous militia anyway. Looks like the 2nd Amendment is being taken more and more seriously by all sides in this debate.
“… some sort of irrelevant and nebulous militia …”
Tarnation! The militia is alive and well, thank you very much.
The Bill of Rights consists of the first ten Amendments to the Constitution, made by the means set forth in that Constution even before it came into effect and required in order to render it acceptable to the thirteen United States.
They set out individual rights and liberties in the spirit of Locke and the hand of (among others) Jefferson, against the stated stance of the Federalists who did not believe that rights should be specified.
To their credit, the Federalists feared that enumerating rights might implicitly curtail those not enumerated, and the whole “these rights do not constitute all rights” segment was largely their doing.
However, the entire philosophy set forth in that wonderful framework is that we are equal, each a peer in and of the State and that our rights end only where the nose or property of another begins.
Nowhere is there even implied the notion that we were to all be as collectivist drones in what was to be essentially a hive.
A well regulated militia is indeed essential to the security of a free State, and we must needs permit nothing — especially a centralized authority — to compromise the preparedness of that milita. However comprised, that militia must function as needed, where needed and when needed.
In the event of hostile forces landing, we could not wait for a messenger to get to whomever had the authority to call out the militia, nor to wait for a “quorum” of militiamen to assemble. In the initial response to hostile action, the militia comprised the individuals who were in a position to act, the first responders.
We each and all were expected to send a message and then act on individual initiative, as patriots and free persons in defense of hearth and home.
In the final anaIysis, when someone invades ones home or holds one up on the street, they are in effect attacking Kansas, Texas, Vermont et cetera as applicable and also America — a part and peer of the State.
In such cases the militia, the first responder, is the self and numbers one.
All of my WC 1911’s eat every type of ammo I feed them. Expensive and cheap. FMJ and JHP’s. That includes 4, 5 and 6 inch versions. You get what you pay for in a Wilson Combat 1911.
So do my smaller than service length Dan Wesson 1911’s, including a Dan Wesson ECO with a 3.5 inch barrel. It has never had a failure of any kind with any kind of ammo. It loves Asym 185 gr Barnes solid copper +P ammo.
Why does the M4 suck?
Because it just sucks.
That’s what happens when its existence is based solely off the idea of forced compromise.
Replace 9mm subguns at guard posts. Using a varmint round not meant to kill 180 lb animals. Shorter barrel with a faster twist after the fact. Known superior battle rifles shown to be superior but deemed not worth the added cost. Real ammo weighing too much. Lowering standards to help out smaller stature soldiers. Colt’s continued existence as a company.
Its a plinker rifle not a battle rifle.
This your house Robert.
You make the rules.
I don’t feel my comment asking who the writer is as described by me was out of line.
I think Ill just read here.
No more commenting from me positive or negatively.
Don’t give up like that. You win some you lose some. Sometimes you have to troll/say your opinion smarter not harder and sometimes you get blocked or deleted. The important part is you keep on going.
The basic principle of a liberal democracy is that, for laws to be legitimate, majorities must enact them.
The US Consitution is not subject to change by a mere majority. However, what about the majority view? A ban on hanguns polls at 70 plus percent opposition, and shall issue carry laws had spread to cover over two thirds of the US population through a purely democratic state-level process before the 7th Circuit had to drag IL into the game. Being all-around anti-gun is actually a minority view these days.
I think this rule does put the discourse here on a level far above the typical comments section that one sees all too often at other politically-oriented websites…on the Left and the Right. After a certain point, personal insult after personal insults (even when directed at those with whom I disagree or even feel contempt towards) simply becomes tedious.
Well done.
That is certainly an agitated look of disdain across the brow of that one.
Certainly the portrayal of an individual left reeling from having his contemptual view of pixie dust and unicorn fairytail of a perfect and wholesome government, guided by peoples errogance and apathy, and his ignorant support there-of, become vaporware before his very eyes.
So good.
I’d be cautious using the current constitution as an argument here (second response to Beauchamp’s point 2). Beauchamp is arguing for a change in the constitution, so pointing to the current constitution for argument is not going to address his argument.
Folks, we all know there’s a double standard here. We see it in the antis’ public statements, their bloody shirt waving, the endless personal attacks on everyone who disagrees even in the slightest. We see it in the comments policies on their websites, in their contrived outrage when we call them out in any but the most polite of terms, and we certainly see it in how the media treats both sides.
It’s not fair. It’s not right. But it’s the truth. And it will continute to be the truth as long as some of the participants and most of the audience (the general public) in this great debate and struggle are ill informed and don’t trouble themselves to think logically.
So, we can either complain about it and get mad at each other, or we can work within the framework of reality and educate anyone who cares to ask, and just flat out be better human beings than the other side.
Well, if you’re putting it up for a vote . . . .
I can accept that a Wilson Combat compact 1911 should be reliable. Wilson puts a lot into it’s firearms, just as buyers put a lot of money into Wilson. The same cannot be said about every manufacturer.
That’s the truth. I tried playing around with 1911s that “only” cost $1000, and got burned twice.
Not saying that a well-tuned 1911 isn’t awesome. It is. So’s a Ferrari. Alas, as long as I’m constrained by budget, the Glock will ride on my hip, and any 1911s I own will be safe queens that only come out to play for a day at the range. (And I’ll be content driving my Bimmer coupe.)
“it’s”??? Not you, Ralph! You know it should be “its”.
(Beware the lurking grammar Nazis)
Mark N, after four martinis, I’m happy that I didn’t type “its’ses.”
Almost anything can be done if you’re willing to pay enough.
Non violent protest is much more effective in this day and age? Tell that to the Ukraine, Syria, West Papua, Mexico, and a dozen other places that I’m too lazy to list.
“But what troubles me most about . . . the general More Guns approach to social ills . . . is the absolute abandonment of civil society it represents.”
This guy needs slapped upside the head. If it were possible to impart knowledge to his headbone, I’d like to remind him that it is precisely the “More Guns approach” that GUARANTEES the “civil society” he seems to be so enamored of.
It’s the anti-gun nuts that are promoting the “abandonment of civil society” that the Constitution is intended to preserve.
If Antoly doesn’t pull up his britches, I’m going to shoot him square in the ass.
“This new, stricter policy – designed to deny the enemies of gun rights ammunition for their campaign of civilian disarmament”
Sorry, Rob, but you’re deluding yourself if you think they care if you delete comments or not. Regardless of what anyone posts here, they’re going to hate you not matter what. Censoring others because you’re trying to pacify those who think you should be locked up or killed isn’t going to change their minds.
I expect this comment to be deleted in 3…2…1…
. . . 0, -1, -2 . . . . What comes next?
You’re right that we can’t convince the truly committed anti-gun people that we’re reasonable. They’re going to keep attacking us whatever we do. Nothing short of giving in to their demands will be good enough.
But how we act in front of everyone in the middle does matter. And sometimes, there are people on our side who should keep their mouths shut and let those with a little more tact do the talking for us. When those people have a lapse of common sense and sling out a bunch of ignorance, they make us all look bad.
Maybe you can’t win the people like Shannon Watts over, but that doesn’t mean you have to hand her the gasoline to burn you with.
RF, it’s your blog and you’re free to do what you like.
That said, if you force us all to take the high road, it puts us all in a better position to piss over the rail and onto the enemy.
LOL!!
I think Mr Beauchamp just got taken to the proverbial wood shed.
Hickock45 did a review of the glock 41 (long slide 45) and noted the slide was 3 oz. lighter than the 21. I wonder if glock had to do anything mentioned above or is it just for the 1911 platform. As in the above, the 41 had snappier recoil.
Zack appears to be the product of the far left dumbification of critical thinking that started with the Foucaltian post modernist, transnational ideas that the interlocutors viewpoint mattered more than the facts, and any opposing argument was proof of patriarchical domination, or something equally goofy…
in other words, because I feel it, therefore its my reality.
And if you disagree, “you are denying my reality”…
Its a cozy little bubble once you get used to it, as long as the real world doesnt intrude, and most liberal academia in general seems to be hardening in place, around this form of mind-control, from what I’m reading.
Methinks Zack is going to have a hard landing when his Mom finally kicks her precious snowflake out of the basement…
Yes, now every 1911 fanboy will comment how his has never jammed, not once, never.
Actually, my WC X-TAC has never jammed. But I most certainly do not subscribe to the notion that 1911’s are more reliable.
I’m a 1911 fanboy–pure sex appeal and just love the way they shoot–but I have never made, nor would ever make, any such claim about my Kimber.
What does he use? I’ll send him a box.
He’s apparently got a .308 according to the article. If I were doing home defense with one of those that’s exactly what a box of Controlled Chaos would be for…
If ad hominem attacks are out, how about thread hi-jacking?
I’d like to talk about flame throwers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMmXninm7Ew
Super soakers, a zippo, duct tape and gasoline.
Yeah, single-use (due to solvent action destroying first all the seals and then the plastic gun itself), but hell. It’s cheaper my way.
Oh, wait, I guess I just got hijacked.
Quick, call DHS and ask for an express mailing of “active hijacker” advice cards.
One of the reasons I’ve tended to hang around on this site/forum in the last few months is that the ratio of good information is very high, the comments include a lot of intelligent discussion, and I see a few gun-control people here arguing their points. To me, that last one is a very valuable resource. It helps me understand that mindset better and helps me to understand where my arguments might be useful or useless.
Mike
…I thought the US is a Constitutional Republic…not a “Democracy”….so the writer of the essay starts off on the wrong premise….how do these folks get any attention from a public or government news operation…do you think people pay attention to their idiocy?
RJ O’Guillory
Author-
Webster Groves – The Life of an Insane Family
Although I can appreciate TTAG’s position, I believe the anti movement to be treasonist and I do not appologise for their attacks on our rights,The Constitution ,their inuendos that gunowners are criminals because THEY do not know or care about THE LAW OF THE LAND.I believe in being direct and to the point! This site should not make any apologies to this faction of America who completely misses the point about our RIGHTS as Americans. I in no uncertain terms will NOT cave to any of the demands of people who want to make exception to The Constitution of The United States.If that offends them,GOOD,as they offend LIBERTY.And that would be….PERIOD!
Clearly this is just another confused young man. He doesn’t know his country’s past and he clearly doesn’t know HIS own future! He is a parasite to society and this website!
That is all
this thing has “never going to be legal in my state written all over it.” 🙁
Wow… Not a basic right, even though it near the top o’ the list. Never mind the Founders – or John Lock, William Wallace or whomever else provided a leg up to them.
Skezey B’s tirade against ol’ Number Two is a steaming pile o’ number two.
Robert,
I think this is the right decision, but consider that your actions (posting a stupid picture of Mr. Skinny Jeans which begged for insults and referring to him as a troll) might encourage the ad hominems.
“LIKE!”
It’s Robert’s house. He’s trying to raise the bar. His prerogative.
I really wanna throw a whole lotta sharpened, jagged ad hominems at him.
I have had nothing but good experiences with Wilson Combat firearms and ammo. I did a short review of their smokin’ hot 6.8 SPC Spec II ammo and gave it 5 stars. It was their 110 grain BTHP match at a published velocity of 2700 FPS, which is the hottest load I’m currently aware of in that caliber (unless one considers the more energetic SSA 140 grain at 2400 FPS with CCI 450 mag primers).
Their pistols have also been well made and reliable in full size and commander sizes. I’m trying to take a mental inventory of the commander sized and compact .45’s I’ve shot over the years. I’ve seen my friends Kimber .45 with a 3 1/2″ barrel jam once or twice, but I believe that was with range reloads, so not a terribly strong assessment.
My test is the same: 200 rounds of JHPs without an issue and its good to go for self defense. I think Wilson could achieve that.
You know, I can’t help but look at that photo of Mr. Beauchamp and think of the “Occupy” movement. The goofy glasses, and the superpositioned lightstick frames, the “Flag” suspenders, the far off glazed look of incoherent idealism masquerading as enlightened egalitarianism. I have little doubt that if Mr. Beauchamp could wave his magic wand he’d have all decent Americans stood up against the wall and shot with the very weapons that he so abhors. All in the name of the common good and for the children, you understand, of course. It’s just too important a matter to be left to the commoners, the pathetic, unwashed, ignorant rubes that they are.
Oh, and he went to Brown. Now that’s some serious gravitas right there.
I’m cooking dinner so I got a little bit distracted. I forgot to mention that Mr. Beauchamp, it the words of Tom Petty, is truly “a rebel without a clue”.
I suspect the judge thinks old ammo is like the old Dynamite in the movies.
Why he would think that was any kind of legal reason to destroy someone’s property without their consent I can’t imagine.
Carrying a work of art, as in a top end 1911 is not a good idea, unless money is no object, and then at that point it doesn’t really matter. A carry gun needs to be disposable. Government will see to that. That’s where Kahrs and Glocks come into the picture.
I’ve pretty much only heard good things about CZs – but that trigger guard is just so damn square.
I mean, if I had an NBC suit in the closet, sure, but low-profile (and warm) winter gloves are a thing these days.
Good Digest, Matt. As always.
It’s hip to be square, man.
If that square triggerguard is really throwing you off, then look into some of the other variants of the 75, such as the B or BD. There are also compact ones. Of course these are for the most part not polymer framed.
The P-07 is a great gun, but if you’re in the market, check out the P-01 as well. It’s about the same size, has an aluminum frame, and has an identical mechanism to the CZ75 BD (the 07 uses CZ’s Omega trigger). The 01 my carry gun of choice. I made that decision primarily due to how the two guns feel in my hand.
@ st-
This is Wes, and I am the author of this piece. I am the Communications Manager for K Rounds LLC, and as several others have pointed out, I was referring to the Holster manufacturer, not the weapons manufacturer. Attention to detail is exactly what causes finish loss when it is not applied in holster construction.
@jason,
I would suggest that you try out our OWB pancake. We focus on the following- the body, the weapon, and the quality control. Our holsters are designed around both the shooter and the weapon, with comfort at the forefront. IWB holsters, ours or the competitions, will cause some discomfort. Foreign objects in the waistband always do.
There are MORE than enough racist, homophobic, slanderous, vile and violent comments on just about every single news article out there. We don’t need them here at TTAG. If you can’t control yourself, don’t post here.
A lot of the good people living in this city are the most in need of a defensive firearm. The shootings of home invaders is very common in the Detroit media.
The video shows some good points: the mere threat of a gun isn’t always a deterrent to an attacker, nor is actually firing said weapon. The “kid”-I use this term because we often see violent attackers portrayed in the national news as somehow harmless due to their age- drops his handgun after the first shots while retreating. He then picks it up, and attempts to enter the home, knowing full well it’s occupied by someone shooting at him. He finally changes his mind after another barrage. This goes to show that simply racking a shotgun, or even a “warning” shot will dissuade an attacker.
We are a shall issue state, and Wayne County has been pretty good in my experience with issuing CPLs. Michigan has also streamlined the purchasing process, making it easier to buy a handgun.
The fact that the DPD responded, and made arrests in a prompt manner is great, as there are really dedicated officers working in that department. There are currently under 2,500 sworn officers. They are facing major obstacles. Detroit was the first city to have radios in their squad cars, the current system works so poorly, that officers are sometimes forced to use their cell phones to contact dispatch. Their vehicles are a combination of barely functioning old crown vic’s, and new cars that were donated. Many don’t have MDT’s, and officers are looking at losing their retirements, health care (retirees and survivors of officers killed on the job already have) along with other morale destroyers. If you think being a cop in that city is some overpaid cake union job, you’re crazy. Their healthcare and retirement helps working for a lousy salary bearable. Yet still there are some men and women in blue doing the job for the right reasons. Hearing they caught the scum in this attack is a rare positive headline for those folks. Even so, in the best case the police are minutes away.
At least in this city, citizens can obtain and use firearms to defend themselves against the animals that are trying to take over. From the news stories I’ve seen, it appears the home owner was allowed to keep possession of her firearm.
A concealed carry law without the presumed right to carry on private property would be pretty worthless, which is exactly what the liberals in Illinois want. They only created the law because the courts forced them into it, and they’re still having a temper tantrum about it.
Jerry Miculek is not human.
So much for your rainbow coalition with homosexuals to protect the 2nd Amendment.
Interesting that my post isnt showing on the Kydex being ripped off its base..
Whats the accuracy at ranges 25-50 yds 10 to 24 yds and 0-9 yds? How fast can you get a accurate follow-on shot with the TCP? I look forward to buying this weapon if its accurate enough haha
“…as you can see, just pulling the suicides completely debunks Josh’s numbers.”
No.
What it might tell you is that the “gun violence” prolblem is less a problem with “guns” in the abstract, and more a lack of access to mental health/suicide prevention care — at least as compared with the ease of access to a firearm.
The comparison to be made is to coal gas suicides in GB.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC478945/
http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/25565893?uid=3739560&uid=2&uid=4&uid=3739256&sid=21103501861247
To summarize, when GB changed the gas supply from lethal coal gas to the non-poisonous natural gas — the national suicide rate dropped. Substantially, and permanently.
What this tells us is that most suicides are short term, spontaneous reactions – and that if it’s made more difficult to commit suicide – even merely difficult enough to require as much forethought as driving to a suitably high bridge to jump off off — that the suicide rate will IN FACT, go down.
And yes, that is DIRECTLY applicable to firearms.
Suicides are very much if not exclusively, spontaneous reactions to a momentary feeling of despair. For those suicides committed by firearm, the British experience argues conclusively that most of those firearm suicides, rather than looking for another method, which would require at least at little more planning or determination — that most of THOSE suicides would never happen.
So quit contrary to your conclusion — those firearm suicides show a *massive* problem with firearms
If we could take away the firearms from the population (mostly older and sick, lacking adequate health care of any kind, let alone mental health care) most susceptible to suicide by firearm, while some few of them would indeed simply try harder — most would never make the attempt if it took more than loading their personal firearm and shooting themselves while alone at home.
I.e., what you’re saying is you don’t give a rats ass about depression in and lack of health care for older people.
Just let them kill themselves.
What a trooper.
PS- the real thugs are the Democratic black leaders, the community organizers, and race hustlers, who built their credibility in the black community, who may once have been idealistic, but now know very well how these numbers in welfare, prison, and crime stats, have come about.
For it is they who DONT speak out, to their everlasting shame and dishonor, when they could do good- other than an impotent hand flapping or two for brownie points, to instead get into the streets and spend that credibility to create an honest look in the mirror, on the reality of the dependency culture and victimization of the urban black community, that continues to cycle downward in a death spiral.
Other black leaders, like Thomas Sowell, Justice Thomas, and Bill Crosby have spoken out – and you can add the Thug title to those in the StateRunMedia who have smeared them, as Oreos, or worse simply ignored the obvious message of truth, political correctness be damned.
We dont need to name names- anyone paying attention knows who they are, and so do they, who will have to live with the regrets in old age for a generation of Hope lost, when they could have really made a Change, but sold out, for the money and the power, instead…
you guys dont know anything about anything. this gun is just fine.
a lot of americans look at their weapons as their pets.
i want my guns to kill.
this gun does that.
i have it in 7 62×25.
it kills very good. stack 6 people one behind the other and it will drill them all.
i like that.
You mean I cant call CSGV Center to Support Government Violence anymore? Personally I dont care what people say about MDA or CSGV. Both of these groups go to great lengths to suppress opponents First Amendment rights. Why should we become like them?
What a horrific story!! I have always wondered, what it is that makes the LGBT community as a whole, so anti-2nd Amendment??? What else can it be but a product of conforming to the two-party political system? I mean, obviously it makes sense that LGBT rights would be at the top of the priority list for those that are directly effected by that, and of the Democrats and the Republicans, its obvious which party would be favored but that doesn’t mean that you have to fall in line with everything the freaking party stands for!! It seems to me, there has never been a group of people more perfect for (and probably deserving of) libertarian principals. It’s time to break the two-party cycle!
“But that doesn’t give them the right to disobey it.”
Ah yeah, actually, it kind of does…
We would never have had a America if the people turned in all the guns in 1775 and yes the British Army also found out at Concord ! They the people in Conn. are the ones following the REAL LAW of the land…like 2A… There is no higher laws or persons ……..the Constitution is the KING…our only King…. that is why we hung all the Germans and Japs why said I was only following my orders (laws)..
Hey Matt, if you were in Utah I’d offer to let you use my p-07 in .40 s&w. I love it, smooth shooting and the trigger guard is expanded to allow gloves to fit in the guard easily! (A good thing for cold utah winters.)
E only complaint I have is the damn thing HURLS the brass away from me, and I’m a reloader, so finding it all is a challenge!
It’s called “civil disobedience”, moreover, “Molon labe”…
In general, a good article. There are, however, different kinds of leather which isn’t really mentioned. Horse leather is preferable to cow hide. It is much more resistant to water, sweat, etc which makes it more difficult to work with causing a sligtly higher price. Additional considerations need to be made for the availability of plastic molded holsters for non-mainstream handguns (e.g Arcus 94). There are also body conformance issues – leather will conform to your body while polymers will resist it.
IMO, holster selection and materials is non-trivial and has both technical as well as personal considerations with the balance on personal preference. After all, a holster is worth nothing if it doesn’t fit the gun and the wearer well and is left in the drawer.
I cant get past That slouchy old dish rag with her bottom lip turned down and bad haircut..
Why don’t the citizens of CT aggressively pursue some kind of legal action against their government for breaking the laws in establishing illegal law? A recall petition or something to get this in the courts. After all, isn’t it suppose to be, by the people and for the people? Just wondering.
I love TTAG. THANK YOU! I wish you were not needed. But, I am so very grateful you are on our side. I feel like a part of a family not a cause.
I read your blog several times per day, but never comment (pretty sure that this is my first). I had to thank you and your team for putting out what I believe is the best gun blog out there today. Here’s hoping you can all keep up the good work for as long as you need to.
America chose Liberty over Liberalism….woot!
If you really want a laugh – go to the piers morgan live facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/PiersMorganLive
Read the hilarious comments from our countrymen.
There’s another advantage to the “crotch shot” you are missing but is worth noting.
Pointing a gun at a guy’s nuts is first a massive, massive threat AND it gives you better visibility of the rest of his body, especially his hands near the waist area. You can tell if he reaches for something at hip level much clearer and faster than you can if you are aiming at the upper chest and his hands are low and blocked from sight by your gun.
This “look at him better” effect works better if you are doing target-focus instead of front-sight-focus. Red dots on handguns mean target-focus shooting. The only iron sight I am aware of that allows easy and accurate target focus shooting is the Goshen Hexsite, which I strongly recommend as the best sort of handgun sight I’ve ever owned:
http://www.goshen-hexsite.com/index2.php
(Mine is a homemade variant that Goshen owner Tim Sheehan helped me build for a very weird gun but the effects are very similar: it is an iron sight that works well with both the front and rear sights “blurry” due to target-focus shooting.)
I propose that all Connecticut residents who refuse to register and are dedicated to the cause get together and ship their rifles to the Ukraine.
We all know Barry’s not gonna do it.
This seems pretty simple to me. I acknowledge freedom of speech but when a commenter is doing damage to the People of the Gun, there is no place for him/her. This is just as much a PR war as anything else and we all need to be on our best behavior. Most of us agree that those OCT guys in chipotle were in the wrong by posing and brandishing their weapons. It’s the same damn thing. Quit brandishing your mouth and using personal attacks. Logic, facts, and reason are our bread and butter so please use the brain you have and don’t act like an idiot. This should really be a non-issue.