At IWA Walther was showing off some new handguns for the self defense and competition markets, specifically their five-inch PPQ and their new CCP line of pistols. I was able to get my hands on the guns, and I was actually pretty impressed . . .
The five-inch PPQ is a damn slick gun, sporting an extended magazine release button and a fiber optic front sight that would make it perfect for competitive shooting. The trigger is crisp and clean, and the trigger shoe is flat and smooth. The gun even feels good in my hands, which is both a blessing and a curse — if it feels good in my gigantic mitts, then the molding might not work for those with smaller paws.
The CCP is designed more for the concealed carry crowd, with a shorter grip and barrel length, but still sports some of the features of the PPQ. That includes the same nice feeling trigger, an accessory rail under the barrel and the molded grip. The grip on the CCP didn’t quite fit me the same way the PPQ did, but that’s going to be down to personal preference.
Both of the guns seem to be well-made, but the real test will be in seeing how they handle on the range. I’ve asked for some samples to test and we’ll let you know how they do as soon as possible. [Jeremy S. EDIT: I just finished up testing out a new PPQ M2 5″ and it’s shipping out to Joe Grine tomorrow for him to test. This will result in a joint review going up on TTAG here in the not-too-distant future. On a related note, the ergos were great for me also, plus it ships with S, M, and L swappable backstraps to accommodate various hand sizes. Also, the U.S. version has standard 3-dot sights instead of that fiber optic.)
pigs like these look like they’ve crossed the line and become feral hogs.
Nick can you ask the rep if they intend coming out with the CCCP model this year? I hear it will be called informally the PUTIN model.
In Soviet Russia, gun fires you!
Another view – and not to denigrate the efforts of open carry proponents because I agree with their sentiment, if not always their methods:
The picture of the so called SWAT squad above made me think; our responses here to that photo are probably the same as the impact a group of open carriers, descending upon a local Starbucks or other place of business, would evoke among the general public, particularly those with hoplophobic tendencies, whenever open carriers with their guns (especially long guns) gather to make a pointed endeavor to exercise 2nd Amendment freedoms in busy public places.
Excersising the ‘right’, but not winning any converts.
Except open carriers like that are carrying for a specific nonviolent political reason and are going to get more than two weeks paid vacation if they screw up.
Who would you be more afraid of: an NYPD SWAT team with all the federal, state, and local laws plus unions backing them up or Jim Bob in Texas with his group of middle class men and women with rifles slung over their shoulders and/or handguns on their hips?
If Jim Bob shoots me on accident trying to kill someone haphazardly running in and out of traffic (which he probably wouldn’t do in the first place) he’s going to go to prison and I’m gonna sue him directly. Unless he’s a complete idiot he knows that.
In the scenario where ‘Jim Bob’ shoots you accidentally while trying to kill someone running in and out of traffic he *should* go to prison; he’s not being paid a generous salary for statutory immunity.
/read between the lines/
The rest of what you state – I agree. But like I said above, I speak to perceptions
And by the way Cliff H. you are correct, there are good “liberals’ just as thereare bad conservatives.
There are differences between cops. Some are good people, motivated to help and are a tremendous benefit to their communities. They are your neighbors and friends. We are safer with them around. If a bad apple does somehow infiltrate the bunch, they are held responsible and disciplined, demoted or fired.
The others are bullies, not very smart, mean and self absorbed who give a sh1t about nothing but their own power. When one of these officers does something wrong, the event is covered up, the “investigation” is a whitewash and the bad actor is praised as a hero and promoted.
What makes the second group different from the first? Their union.
Hang ’em in the public square and leave their corpses out for a week.
I don’t care what color, race, persuasion, background, nationality, political party, etc. they were a part of. This type of stuff needs to stop.
Sickening.
I’m eagerly awaiting Bob Cook’s comment on this one given he said…
“I don’t understand the mindset of feeling like I would need to carry a gun as I would carry my smartphone. I know the threat is out there, but so is the threat of tornadoes, and I don’t carry a storm shelter on my person at all times. Because I don’t live like I could be under attack at any moment“
They entered the wrong home.
That reminds me of a home invasion right up the road here back in December or November of ’13. Similar deal. Two baddies broke into the wrong home (they thought it was the house of a dealer rival they wanted to steal from), only the homeowners there were armed.
Score that one a win for the armed home owners.
You NEVER know when evil will come your way.
Well the problem, Mr. LEO, is that if I handle it myself I get charged with several crimes (regardless of whether any were actually committed), whereas not only are you given superior tools of self defense, paid for by my tax dollars, but you can accidentally shoot your co-workers or innocent civilians and get off scott free…
So the reason I’m calling you is because you and the legislature won’t *let* me take care of it solo…
*NEVER* co-opt the language of your opposition!
In the recent primary elections, there were 2 women vying for the Democrat Governors’ position. Both were pro open carry! God Bless Texas!
I honestly have no problem with cops training to be HSLD door-kickers. I have no problem with them carrying ARs. Throughout history police uniforms and technical have mirrored the military, and we shouldn’t get our feathers ruffled by the continuance of that trend.
What I do have a problem with is the ever-developing militant attitude of police officers, and the fact that average Joe is almost always prohibited from bearing the arms and ammunition to which the police are increasing entitled. Andy of Mayberry can carried a revolver, and average Joe did too without any trouble. Nowadays if NYPD SWAT might carry full-auto MP5s in their cars, but if Joe does the same he’s going to get ventilated with extreme prejudice. This, to me, along the entitled holier-than-the-rest-of-you-peons attitude, is what the problem is.
Police are not equal to the rest of us anymore, and no amount of the oath-keeping and honorable intentions change that. As long as there are exceptions in the law for police officers, judges who look the other way when the police slaughter the innocent and ruin their lives, an unequal access to arms, etc., the police are our enemy. Individual police officers are not our personal enemies — there are certainly some upstanding, oath-keeping police here on TTAG, and I’m very glad that people like them are in law enforcement — but “the police” in general as an entitled, immune, and all-powerful class of [often enough thuggish] citizens can be nothing but enemies of liberty and equality.
The case to restore the right to bear arms in Florida, as opposed to a privilege to carry concealed only, is pending in the 4th DCA. http://199.242.69.70/pls/ds/ds_docket?p_caseyear=2012&p_casenumber=3525&psCourt=4&psSearchType=
The case is air tight, but I don’t know if anyone expects the courts to have enough integrity to rule in the right. After it’s done, Floridians should really meet with their neocon state senators and support reform. It was neoconning republicans that killed the licensed OC bill in 2011.
Only one problem with the video: they’re no better than any other citizen with or without an oath.
I would like to hear an anti gun legislator explain logically how a round number is selected for magazine limits. Simply explain, logically, how they arrived at the number ‘X’ – and how it was scientifically and logically proven to be more appropriate than ‘X+1’ or ‘X-1’, or ‘1’ or ‘100’ or ‘0’.
A simple explanantion, please, and be prepared to support your position with facts, and data. And bear in mind, if you say ‘ … for the children …’ , or ‘ … if we can save just one child / person / life … ‘ we will try out a 1 round magazine on you, and see how safe that limit makes you.
Bacon tastes good. Pork chops taste good.
The sad fact is that if ever there was a movement to allow us unwashed masses to gain access to these types of firearms, the current machine gun owners would oppose it to protect their “investment” because after the law is removed, that 5 digit price tag is going to drop suddenly.
If you shoot a PPQ you will want to own one. It is that much of a pleasure to shoot. The trigger rocks.