Gunmen Open Fire On Crowd With Kalashnikovs in Marseille, France

courtesy and Reuters

After a recent comment by President Trump, the French Foreign office let it be known that they’re very happy with the country’s strict gun laws that make it extremely difficult for les Francaises to get their hands off firearms. Unfortunately, those laws don’t seem to have deterred would-be terrorists much.

THREE gunmen armed with Kalashnikovs have opened fire on a crowd in France — with police reporting at least one person has been injured.

The shooting happened in the French city of Marseille just after five o’clock this evening local time.

The men, armed with the machine guns and wearing hoods, arrived in three vehicles before opening fire on a group of young people.

A gun battle with police then took place.

The gunmen took off after exchanging fire with police and are still on the loose.


  1. avatar Survivordude1090 says:

    “May you live in interesting times.”

    1. avatar Littlefinger says:

      Goodness. I know AK47s are inaccurate rattletraps but three men open fire with them into a crowd and only one person is injured.

      These terrorists would have done more damage throwing rocks.

      1. avatar Jackass Jim says:

        It’s the man – not the machine.

        1. avatar California Richard says:

          Sounds like a gang thing. Those guys hit a whole lot of NOTHING all the time.

        2. avatar There they are, blast 'em! says:

          Set blasters to *miss*

      2. avatar DaveL says:

        Makes you wonder if everyone from the NYPD is accounted for.

      3. avatar BehindEnemyLines says:

        Factory AKs are 4 MoA or better, which is the standard of accuracy for most 20th century infantry rifles. Most shoot better than that. It’s just that most AK users in the world don’t know how to use the sights properly, probably never zeroed them if they do, and/or can’t afford the ammo and time expenditure to become proficient marksmen. Those who are capable marksmen aren’t given AKs and sent on suicide missions.

        I recall an anecdote from the Rhodesian Bush Wars where Rhodesian troops kept finding enemy AKs with the rear sight set to 1,000m. When enemy soldiers were questioned about this, they revealed that they didn’t know what the range adjustments were and just thought the bigger number made the gun more powerful.

        1. avatar DaveL says:

          AKs with the rear sight set to 1,000m

          I never noticed AKs had a 1,000m setting. I just never imagined the Russians were such optimists.

        2. avatar anonymoose says:

          I heard that story before about the African morons with their sights set all the way up.

          AK47s have sights that go out to 800m, and the AKM has a sight that goes out to 1000m. None of that matters when you just spray into the air and shout Allahu Akbar so that God will guide your bullets into the hearts of the infidels.

        3. avatar Seizure doc says:

          That story goes back to the Zulu wars in the 1870’s.

      4. avatar Disgruntled Floridian says:

        An AK can do a lot more damage in the right hands. Good thing Allah does the aiming for them.

      5. avatar MLee says:

        Yeah yeah, we have all heard that joke about Kalashnikov rifles, however the truth of the matter is the they are the most popular and successful weapon system in the history of the planet. They are plenty accurate as a battle rifle and accurate at a 100 hundred yard far enough for battle field use. It’s not a sniper rifle, it’s a battle rifle.

        1. avatar Scoutino says:

          Aren’t battle rifles supposed to shoot full power cartridges? Like FAL, CETME or Garand. AK 47, AKM and AK74 all shoot intermediate cartridges – isn’t it what’s called assault rifles?

        2. avatar whoopie says:

          The only reason the AK platform is so widely used is because the Soviets handed them out like Trick-or-Treat candy for little more than a promise that they’d be used to cause “civil unrest” that might further Communist interests.

      6. avatar BLAMMO says:

        Divine intervention. God came down from Heaven and stopped those mutha fuckin’ bullets.

      7. avatar RogueVal says:

        Drug deal gone bad, no one shot, drug dealer taken hostage.

      8. avatar vepraksoldat says:

        AK are not inaccurate. But if they were shooting in automatic mode and spraying it then no wonder. I own bunch of AK rifles and they pretty accurate

      9. avatar Ed says:

        Funny, my AK is a sub 1″ gun…what century arms pos have you been shooting???

      10. avatar C.B.H. says:

        They’re not as inaccurate as you’ve been led to believe.

  2. avatar Kalvin in WI says:

    Well. I’m so shocked that a country that bans guns had another terrorist attack. I am FLABBERGASTED I tell you.

    What? Sarcastic? Who, Me?

    1. avatar Nigel the expat says:

      Maybe the bad guys couldn’t read the ‘no guns’ signs. Obviously a lack of education cause this to happen. 😉

  3. avatar Marcus says:

    This is not a difficult problem just go to the root of the problem. Kid shoots up school because because hes deranged and shows warning signs. Kids don’t shoot up schools cause they have easy access to guns otherwise school shootings would happen everyday for real. Primitive foreigners shoot up native westerners cause they hate them, not because the have easy access to AKs because they DONT!

    1. avatar Toni says:

      actually in most countries that have very strict gun laws it is easier for the criminal to get arms than it is for the law abiding. the problem with making it so hard to get something (and it can be applied to most anything, guns, knives, explosives, cars, alcohol, drugs etc etc) is that it creates a black market and then while the law abiding wont go down that path because they dont wish to break the law the criminal has no qualms about that. as for the moslems in france, after the paris attacks they raided a few mosques and found huge stashes of guns and ammo and other weapons as well. they only raided a small number of them and then stopped and did not bulldoze those mosques either. Why?

  4. avatar Rich says:

    Three men with AK’s open fire on crowd and one injured? We’re thet firing blanks?

    1. avatar Ing says:

      Third-worlders generally don’t grasp the concept of actually aiming firearms. Fortunately.

      1. avatar Sian says:

        We can be thankful for the ever ineffective Islamic combat strategy of ‘spray rounds without aiming and Allah will guide the bullets to smite the infidel’

        1. avatar Southern Cross says:

          It’s called the “inshallah” or “if God wills” method. God was not very willing that day.

      2. avatar Hannibal says:

        If you pick a crowded area you barely have to aim at all.

        The whole thing sounds weird.

    2. avatar john y says:

      With only 1 person injured this will not be listed as a mass shooting. On top of that, some countries do not categorize terrorist attacks the same as other mass shooting events. Although arguably most if not all mass shootings prime reason is to terrorize.

    3. avatar DaveL says:

      Achetez les cartouches aux bouts pincés, c’est moins cher. -ISIS French Chapter

  5. avatar pwrserge says:

    Cue the usual commie trolls to deny reality and claim that this never happens in other countries.

    1. Incidents like this are rare.

      The only people that deny reality are paranoid fruitbats like you that hold onto the mythical fairytales like “more guns, less crime” and “dgu’s” like cinderella and the three-little pigs they are fair tales.

      France and the rest of the world can go months to years without incidents like this.

      American cant go 22 days let alone 22 mintues without some paranoid creep like you going off.

      Who is going to protect us from you “freedom loving americans” when you snap?

      Im more afraid of right-wing nutcases like you than some religious radical and mountains of evidence prove that people like you are actually the problem and cause of more incidents that some religious radical.

      1. avatar DaveL says:

        Incidents like this are rare.

        John below pointed out 3 other instances in the past 3 years, Full-auto Kalashnikovs in one city.

      2. avatar pwrserge says:

        So they are apparently so rare the France had more people die in “mass shootings” in 2015 than the US, despite having a fraction of the population.

      3. avatar Gun Free School Zones are a crime against humanity says:

        “Mountains of evidence”. Let us see some citations.

      4. avatar Mike in OK says:

        I guess if you’re afraid of us you should exercise you’re rights as an American and tool up to defend yourself. Because we’re not giving up our guns. If you commies press us we may have to use them to correct you, but we’re not giving them up. So figure out another way to feel safe.

      5. avatar burley says:

        John Lott disagrees with you, and also thinks you’re an idiot.

        1. avatar Dan in CO says:

          Dan in Colorado also disagrees with him and thinks he’s an idiot.

      6. avatar Aunty Jingo says:

        Katie! Bar the door! He’s baaack! It’s that idiot that can’t think, read, or write! Yeah, the stooopid fool!
        Don’t be so harsh with him. It’s not his fault he was born with half an ant brain.

      7. avatar 2Aeveryday says:

        Another troll heard from. If you are that concerned move to Australia, where the gov seized civilian guns. Shortly there after they had two ‘terrorist’ incidents…. hmmm

  6. avatar Rocketman says:

    Before the EU, it used to be legal in France to carry a small caliber handgun without a license. Back then .22lr, 25acp and .32acp handguns were regularly carried and the crime rate was a tiny fraction of what it is now. The EU with it’s unelected bureaucrats is now the 21st century version of feudalism.

  7. avatar John says:

    Not the first time this happened
    2017, 2016 and 2015

  8. avatar Hunter427 says:

    Just more peace loving Muslims just feeling uncomfortable in their
    new country, just prepare to enslave or murder the non-believers nothingg to see, get your heads back in the sand sheepiles

  9. avatar Ing says:

    I thought the French gun control regime guaranteed that nobody could have a gun unless they were associated with the government and/or given a very rare special permission by said government.

    Yet here are these terrorists, shooting AK-47s at French citizens.

    There are only two possible reasons for this:
    1: No government can keep guns away from bad people who really, really want them.
    2: The government let these fine folks have “assault weapons” on purpose.

    Which one is it?

  10. avatar PeterK says:

    Yikes. Still on the loose?

  11. avatar MIO says:
    “Police say many murders in the city are linked to turf wars between multiple rival gangs battling for control of the drugs trade in the city’s poorest neighborhoods.The violence, they say, is aggravated by the easy availability of high-calibre weapons, with Kalashnikov automatic rifles being the murder instrument of choice. In 2013, Mr Valls, who was then interior minister, had said that entire neighborhoods were “abandoned to the dealers.”

    Thats weird I thought just last week they said they were happy with how their gun control was working. So which is it Gun control works or the criminals get easy guns?

    1. avatar burley says:

      End drug prohibition, end 90% of gang motivation.

      1. avatar Big Bill says:

        You would think that prohibition, and its resultant gang activity, never happened.
        Because certainly, no one actually learned from it.

  12. avatar Green Mtn. Boy says:

    It must be a Fake News Report as Kalashnikovs and most any other firearm is strictly Verboten in France as much of occupied europe,so it simply couldn’t happen in a firearm free utopia,yeah right.

  13. avatar TheUnspoken says:

    Ban assault rifles (the real select fire ones)! We did, why hasn’t France gotten these weapons of war off the street? Uncivilized Europe! Since the NFA was implemented, crimes committed with assault rifles and machine guns are pretty much statistically zero, the only criminals with machine guns we still have are all those fools with bump stocks, but we will soon send them all to jail as well! Three gunmen with AKs? The US doesn’t have these types of crimes! At most maybe a Muslim husband-wife team but never three. And if our police arrive in time and don’t wait around outside, the perps don’t make it out alive. Apparently neither the suspects nor police can shoot.

    Just me mocking those who say Europe is immune. I think you should be able to open carry a full auto mp7 or tp9/mp9 in the US and Europe personally, and on the flight in between.. No bump stock needed if you have the real deal.

    1. Europe is immune to incidents like this.

      A few rare statistical incidents vs what happens here everyday in this country.

      1. avatar pwrserge says:

        False, there are 10 EU nations ahead of the US in mass shooting casualties per capita in the past 10 years.

        1. avatar SurfGW says:

          Cite your sources please.

          It is possible, but from my vantage point, much of Europe’s murder / violence problem stems from high numbers of unemployed military age males (many of which are recent Middle Eastern arrivals), and most of these murders are committed with knives or rental trucks.

      2. avatar ACP_arms says:

        If “Europe is immune to incidents like this” how come this happened? I guess Europe is not immune to these things.

  14. avatar jimmy james says:

    This must be fake new because:

  15. avatar bobo says:

    Glad to see all those ‘gun free’ zone signs working!!!

  16. avatar Mark N. says:

    Funny, neither Reuters nor AP report this incident. I guess they have simply classified as gang violence and not terrorism, and therefore unimportant.

  17. avatar William Ashbless says:

    Unless it was a true comedy of errors, I expect the casualty tally to be adjusted upwards.

  18. avatar Waffensammler98 says:

    Where’s our boy Crisco preaching the wonders of importing culturally incompatible savages from active war zones en masse?

    1. avatar pwrserge says:

      Probably drowning his tears in a bucket of cheezy poofs.

    2. avatar Unrepentant Libertarian says:

      Perhaps posting under another pseudonym?

  19. avatar John Boch says:

    Was it the French reboot of the old American TV “A-Team” series?

    How can three men with AKs firing into a crowd only injure one person?

  20. avatar Antoua says:

    French government simply allows muslims to “practice” their religion. Killing all non-believers is just one way of showing their faith and they have to allow them to express
    their religious beliefs…onto innocent public…
    Now that’s what we call “exercising free religion” and it’s coming to this side of ocean too.

    1. avatar Hunter427 says:

      It’s already here in upstate NY

  21. avatar former water walker says:

    NOTHING at all on any network or interwebz. Just>HERE…

  22. avatar DaveDetroit says:

    These incidents may become as common here as overseas (some might argue they already are). Large cities with their crowded conditions are easy targets for terrorists whether by guns, IED’s or simply a rental truck. You can’t bring millions of people here from “there” without “here” becoming “there”. Once again “gun control” does not prevent criminals from obtaining and using guns.

  23. avatar Ralph says:

    Wow, has this news been buried in world record time or what.

    1. avatar David says:

      Story hidden like shooting that left 1 dead, several hurt, at Clayton County schools performing arts center in Georgia on Friday. We are told what the liberal socialist media decides to tell us.

      Glad that only one was hurt so far in France and those three sprayed an prayed and allah didnt help

    2. avatar pieslapper says:

      If the shooter is not a drug addled white guy, it’s not news.

      1. avatar RogueVal says:

        Appears to be 3 drug addicted brown people.

  24. avatar ironicatbest says:

    Fake News, didn’t happen. Nope not in France, they’ve got gun restrictions. Where’s trueamericanpatriotagainstamericans when you need him/ her/ it?

  25. avatar stateisevil says:

    Interestingly, France is a good example of the failure of gun control. Before the EU, one could buy bolt action and semi auto rifles without a background check, all you needed was money. Buying handguns and full auto required a background check but I understand it was neither time consuming or costly. After joining the EU, legal gun ownership is much more tightly restricted and crime has gone up markedly.

  26. avatar HEGEMON says:

    But, but, 0bama said these types of shootings only happen in America…

  27. avatar Chris Del Rossi says:

    “Witnesses to the incident describe the gunmen as wearing gloss white armour and helmets that integrated full masks with black eyes and accents and the vehicles they fled in where described as levitating with vertical wings and emitting a high frequency pitch.”

    1. avatar John E> says:

      Ive seen those guys in action, couldn’t hit the broad side of a Bantha

  28. avatar Det. Nick Valentine says:

    Only article I saw said shots were fired into the air, and the injury was from someone being butt ended with one of the rifles

  29. avatar Mark N. says:

    1 hr ago

    PARIS — Police officials say a group of people, some armed with guns, shot into the air in the French city of Marseille and tried to corner officers who responded to the sound of gunfire.
    Christophe Reynaud of the Marseille police said one resident was hit in the head with a butt of a gun and slightly injured during the incident in the Busserine district on early Monday evening.
    Reynaud ruled out terrorism as a motive and said the shooting probably was drug-related.
    He says the group drove away and has not been apprehended.

    1. avatar John J. McCarthy, Jr. says:

      It should be illegal to hit someone in the head with the butt end of a gun.

    2. avatar Scoutino says:

      So, it was just a muslim wedding.

      1. avatar Big Bill says:

        You beat me to it! That was exactly my first thought!

  30. avatar Rusty Chains says:

    A French government official was asked about refugees having AK47s and he replied: Nier aux Musulmans la possibilité d’avoir des armes comme ils le font chez eux est une discrimination!

  31. avatar Indiana Tom says:

    they’re very happy with the country’s strict gun laws that make it extremely difficult for les Francaises to get their hands of firearms.
    But for the Fuzzy Muzzies, not so much.

  32. avatar Jay in Florida says:

    Never happened.
    There are no guns in France. Ask any frog……um Frenchman. French person even..
    Now this cant happen in Switzerland. Too many guns there.

    1. avatar pwrserge says:

      To be fair, the only modern mass shooting in Switzerland was a guy shooting up government officials. I’d acquit him on sheer chutzpah alone.

      1. avatar Jay in Floridah says:

        Sorry didnt hear/read about that one.
        So I guess to me.
        It also didn’t happen.
        PS: my bored response in being a bit sarcastic.
        No luv here for the United Europe deally.

  33. avatar Robert A says:

    Impossible, AKs are banned in France. This is obviously fake news…..

  34. avatar MyName says:

    Triste. Restez forts mes amis.

  35. avatar Jim Bullock says:

    Why don’t we want to be disarmed? If you can’t keep people from shooting at us — like in France — we want the option to #shootback.

  36. avatar Gralnok says:

    Wait, French police shot back? I thought they would have immediately surrendered. 😉

    1. avatar Southern Cross says:

      The French government already has.

  37. avatar GS650G says:

    Where did that little pansy go who told us these things only happen in the US?

  38. avatar Hugo says:

    When will people realize…you can’t un-invent the gun. Bad guys will always find a way to get them.

  39. avatar Alan says:

    Laws and tradition notwithstanding, the bad guys here and elsewhere, perhaps more “elsewhere” than here, seem to have little trouble obtaining such small arms as they desire. Strange, isn’t it, or is it, given that the bad guys, for some reason or reasons, seem less than impressed by such restrictions as might be imposed by the law, whichdoes appear to impress the law abiding, at the moment anyhow.

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